No flagrant/fine on Jason Terry? (the big foul against Manu)

[greens]

Wasn't there an incident at the very start of the third quarter when Manu went up, got fouled, THEN Terry pushed his arm down, and Manu went down pretty badly...I don't have the clip of it or anything...but it looked very dangerous...Then the refs were discussing what to do for a couple of minutes, gave Terry just one technical...and had Manu shoot free throws...

I'd understand if Terry extended his arm like that BEFORE the foul was called, but he did it right after...it made no sense...it looked on purpose...

No flagrant was callled...just one technical...I don't get it...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I was surprised as well.

[mavs>spurs2]

calm down

[Tek_XX]

Let's not turn into pussy Suns fans here, move on. Let's be honest, we're lucky they called a technical the way that game was called.

[td4mvp21]

Hard foul, ok. Like Tek said, let's not turn into pussy Suns fans.

[SAtown]

Move on. This is what makes the rivalry great; it's very physical, very emotional, even if a star player is absent.

[greens]

Move on. This is what makes the rivalry great; it's very physical, very emotional, even if a star player is absent.


No doubt it's physical/emotional...etc...I get it.

However, it just looked way too intentional...cuz it happened after the foul, for no reason...

I understand when it happens during a play, it's part of the game...I just have an issue if it's right after a foul was already called and was completely uncalled for...Anything goes during a play...but after it...eh, it's too dangerous...

[PM5K]

All I have to say is that there is a difference between hard Playoff style basketball, and dirty, cheap shot style basketball.

[exstatic]

Y'Know, most of the time, I'm with the "move on" crowd, but any time you change a player's trajectory when he's in the air, whether it's undercutting or grabbing something on him, it's fucking DANGEROUS. That should have been a flagrant, and they do sometimes evaluate these things after the fact.

[m33p0]

as comfort... dallas lost to denver tonight, 122-109. that ought to cheer you up! :toast

here's what happened afterwards....

because terry was :devil , manu got :madrun and he was already in a :ihit mood. he even told terry to :nope . i mean manu was :flipoff at terry. anyway manu went :makemyday on the mavs and :owned diop and howard even though howard wanted to :dizzy but didn't because manu was :bking. howard and terry ended looking like :donkey . still, the mavs had the chance to win. luckily, dirk :hang . all of spursdom went :monkey and :cheer manu's name. yeah.. he was :king . we shouldn't be surprised coz all dallas has is :gpower .

[AFBlue]

Did Manu go on to score 37 and lead the Spurs to victory? YES

Did he complain about the cheap shot bullshit they tried to pull in order to take him out of his element? NO

WGAF...Manu kicked ass and Spurs won.

End of story.

[Darkwaters]

as comfort... dallas lost to denver tonight, 122-109. that ought to cheer you up! :toast

If you really wanting more cheering up just check out the Dallas players' +/- for the game. It made me grin.

[greens]

Y'Know, most of the time, I'm with the "move on" crowd, but any time you change a player's trajectory when he's in the air, whether it's undercutting or grabbing something on him, it's fucking DANGEROUS. That should have been a flagrant, and they do sometimes evaluate these things after the fact.


Exactly!

I know that the Spurs won and Manu scored 37 pts...but it's too dangerous to do stuff like this. I was just worried about the safety of the Spurs players...Manu and Parker could have both been hurt by such cheap shots during the game...

And when it comes to safety of the players, I think NBA should regulate stuff like that...

What Terry did is dangerous to the safety of players...And if he gets no penalty, then he'll continue to do stuff like that...and eventually, players can get really hurt out there.



EDIT: m33p0, awesome graphics! Put a smile on my face there!

[ehz33satx]

I think with the addition of Mario Elie to their coaching staff and the toughness that he is trying to instill in them that they think they are a scrappy, tough team when in all actuality they have a false sense of bravado with nothing but thuggery to back themselves up with. They do not deserve to win championships in the NBA.
If the Spurs played as dirty as the Mavs did yesterday, the whole NBA nation would be up in arms crying for the heads of the Spurs players.

[m33p0]

EDIT: m33p0, awesome graphics! Put a smile on my face there!

:toast

[m33p0]

I think with the addition of Mario Elie to their coaching staff and the toughness that he is trying to instill in them that they think they are a scrappy, tough team when in all actuality they have a false sense of bravado with nothing but thuggery to back themselves up with. They do not deserve to win championships in the NBA.
If the Spurs played as dirty as the Mavs did yesterday, the whole NBA nation would be up in arms crying for the heads of the Spurs players.


really funny when you think about it. spurs have always been known as soft. bill simmons in one of his articles says that when you play the spurs, you have to throw one of their guys down coz noone on the spurs team will stand up for their teammate. and yet we have this *dirty* tag on us.

[Slippy]

The intent was obvious and it could of been worse if not for plastic man taking the fall. ( as in Manu). Just because Manu shakes it off as nothing doesn't mean it should go un-noticed. I reckon majority of players would react differently to BS like that. Pussy players like Terry know with Manu , he's not coming back after you, so they tend to take advantage with the cheap-shots. That's where the league has to step in and stamp it out .

[BonnerDynasty]

Lucky Manu didn't fall on his teeth.

Fuck Terry. I hope Horry has something waiting for him.

[gilmor]

as comfort... dallas lost to denver tonight, 122-109. that ought to cheer you up! :toast

here's what happened afterwards....

because terry was :devil , manu got :madrun and he was already in a :ihit mood. he even told terry to :nope . i mean manu was :flipoff at terry. anyway manu went :makemyday on the mavs and :owned diop and howard even though howard wanted to :dizzy but didn't because manu was :bking. howard and terry ended looking like :donkey . still, the mavs had the chance to win. luckily, dirk :hang . all of spursdom went :monkey and :cheer manu's name. yeah.. he was :king . we shouldn't be surprised coz all dallas has is :gpower .

You have to be a woman..

[BlackFlagg]

Y'Know, most of the time, I'm with the "move on" crowd, but any time you change a player's trajectory when he's in the air, whether it's undercutting or grabbing something on him, it's fucking DANGEROUS. That should have been a flagrant, and they do sometimes evaluate these things after the fact.

I agree. It's a lot easier to 'move past' a horribly called game when you've won it. But if we'd lost I would be pretty pissed off, I have to admit.

[BlackFlagg]

If the Spurs played as dirty as the Mavs did yesterday, the whole NBA nation would be up in arms crying for the heads of the Spurs players.

Oh fuck yeah. :clap

[m33p0]

You have to be a woman..

nope. i'm :married: which rules out gayness. i just wanted to make use of the :) s. actually i wanted to use :greedy but forgot.

[Deimosfobos]

The intent was obvious and it could of been worse if not for plastic man taking the fall. ( as in Manu). Just because Manu shakes it off as nothing doesn't mean it should go un-noticed. I reckon majority of players would react differently to BS like that. Pussy players like Terry know with Manu , he's not coming back after you, so they tend to take advantage with the cheap-shots. That's where the league has to step in and stamp it out .

I agree with you... what howard did to manu was a fragant and deserves some kind of punishment.

He didn't go for the ball, he was clearly out of reach and went for Manu's head. That was a nasty hit, still can't belive Manu didn't got hurt.

Either you punish gay shit like that, or the fuckers will keep hammering Manu untill they really hurt him. :nope :bang

[urunobili]

i think the punch Howard gave him while dunking on him and Diop is more deserving a suspension as he went right to his face not the ball

[mrsmaalox]

nope. i'm :married: which rules out gayness. i just wanted to make use of the :) s. actually i wanted to use :greedy but forgot.

Good for you! I always want to use the :) too!

[SAGambler]

If this was an isolated incident, I would say forget it. But it isn't. Terry is a punk ass thug, and should be given some suspension time to think about his actions.

Luckily for us, the more of a beating Manu takes, the better he seems to respond. Which is another thing that seems to be catching amoung the Spurs. Remember the night Mad Dog was in just to beat up on Tim? Seemed to just fire Tim up. Just like Manu when he takes a cheap shot. Another intangible that Manu brings to the Spurs.

If opposing coaches were smart, they would tell their guys not to give any hard fouls or any cheap shots. That seems to be the point where the Spurs go off on them.

[m33p0]

this thing started after the 05 finals but generally that's what championship experience gives you. when push comes to shove, spurs give it their best by punishing opponents where it hurts the most, the scoreboard.

[lefty]

Move on. This is what makes the rivalry great; it's very physical, very emotional, even if a star player is absent.

What if Terry injured Manu? You wouldn't be saying that...Manu is having an amazing season, the Spurs can really repeat this season, and and I don't want to see our chances fucked up by this little punk

Remember Juwan Howard (when he was a ... Mav) injured Derek Anderson in the 2000 playoffs?

[sprrs]

We can only hope that nothing like a flagrant gets instated and possibly causes Terry to hold back next time. Manu got pissed and went off on the Mavs, so let Terry keep on doing it.

[greens]

We can only hope that nothing like a flagrant gets instated and possibly causes Terry to hold back next time. Manu got pissed and went off on the Mavs, so let Terry keep on doing it.


You do realize that Manu could have been seriously injured in that play?

Terry grabbing Manu's arm while in mid air AFTER the foul is too dangerous...and intentional...

Stuff like this should be regulated in the NBA...

[sprrs]

You do realize that Manu could have been seriously injured in that play?

Terry grabbing Manu's arm while in mid air AFTER the foul is too dangerous...and intentional...

Stuff like this should be regulated in the NBA...

Obviously as long as he doesn't get injured, it lights a fire under Manu. He was mad and it showed in his game. But yes, if Manu actually got/gets injured I'd be singing a different tune.

[freemeat]

as comfort... dallas lost to denver tonight, 122-109. that ought to cheer you up! :toast

here's what happened afterwards....

because terry was :devil , manu got :madrun and he was already in a :ihit mood. he even told terry to :nope . i mean manu was :flipoff at terry. anyway manu went :makemyday on the mavs and :owned diop and howard even though howard wanted to :dizzy but didn't because manu was :bking. howard and terry ended looking like :donkey . still, the mavs had the chance to win. luckily, dirk :hang . all of spursdom went :monkey and :cheer manu's name. yeah.. he was :king . we shouldn't be surprised coz all dallas has is :gpower .

Umm....favorite posting I've ever read at ST. Wicked creative! :clap

[clambake]

You do realize that Manu could have been seriously injured in that play?

Terry grabbing Manu's arm while in mid air AFTER the foul is too dangerous...and intentional...

Stuff like this should be regulated in the NBA...
poor baby. are you sure you're not a suns fan? since when do spur fans stoop to this level? if this is how you're going to behave, move to phoenix, or send in horry for payback.

[greens]

poor baby. are you sure you're not a suns fan? since when do spur fans stoop to this level? if this is how you're going to behave, move to phoenix, or send in horry for payback.


I'm sure there is a Dallas forum that you can move on to... :blah

[SRJ]

I like the proposed rule which calls for the offending player to miss as many games as the player he injured. THAT would curtail dirty plays.