Suns: 42 assists on 50 FG!!

[da_suns_fan__]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2007120727

:elephant

[Pistons < Spurs]

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those are Nash's assist totals for the last 5 games!!!!!

[Amuseddaysleeper]

and still no ring

[SRJ]

How were the TV ratings? That, of course, is the key number.

[Stargazer]

And team assists the three games before that: 38 ast on 53 FGs; 38 ast on 45 FGs; 37 ast on 49 FGs.

[Xylus]

And team assists the three games before that: 38 ast on 53 FGs; 38 ast on 45 FGs; 37 ast on 49 FGs.
Jesus. That's impressive.

[pawe]

It is impressive indeed! And, it's not just Nash dishing out the ball. I just hope they can do that even if Nash isnt playing.

[RonMexico]

It's great for my fantasy team since Nash and Barbosa are on there... and so is Parker who has terrible FG% with Duncan out, which is killing me.

[dav4463]

Funny thing is the stat guys credit Nash for an assist when he throws a roll of toilet paper or a towel to a teammate in the locker room. Watch a game sometime from start to finish and keep your own stats. Nash's assist stats are always inflated.

[Purple & Gold]

Funny thing is the stat guys credit Nash for an assist when he throws a roll of toilet paper or a towel to a teammate in the locker room. Watch a game sometime from start to finish and keep your own stats. Nash's assist stats are always inflated.

John Stockton part II??

[peskypesky]

Nash is ridiculous. Un-freaking-believable. And at his age!!!!

[spursfan09]

Oh My God! Think of the rating championships they'll win!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

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those are Nash's assist totals for the last 5 games!!!!!holy crap!

[703 Spurz]

and still no ring

Regular season champs baby :drunk

[Warlord23]

Moreover the Suns are beating up on the East while putting up all these numbers. Sure they are 16-4 in 20 games, but 12 of those 20 have been against the East. They are 5-3 vs the West and 11-1 vs the East.

The Spurs on the other hand have only played 5 games vs the East and are 12-3 vs the West in compiling their 17-3 record.

And I can't emphasize this enough: the East sucks hind tit. Did you know that:

1. There are only 3 teams in the East that are better than .500 right now (BOS, DET, ORL). All the rest are .500 or below. In comparison, 9 out of 15 West teams are better than .500. There are more teams from the Southwest division (4) with a winning record than the entire East.
2. There are exactly 4 teams in the East with a positive PPG differential: the 3 division leaders and the Raptors. The freaking Southwest division alone has 4 teams with a +ve PPG differential. The West has 9 teams with a +ve PPG diff.

The East sucks and Phoenix (12 games) and Boston (15 games) have feasted on this fodder to rack up impressive records and stats. The Suns got spanked by the Lakers, Warriors and Rockets who are in the bottom half of the West playoff picture. They narrowly squeaked past the Kings and the Sonics, and beat the Rockets w/o McGrady once. They smashed the Kings and the Clippers. That's all they have done in the stronger conference. Let's wait till they play the likes of SA, Dallas, Utah, Denver, NO first.

[JMarkJohns]

Warlord, that's all very true, but the Suns have beaten the Magic twice and they have a very talented frontcourt, Western Conference-like frontcourt. So, let's not pretend they can't. But i'll concede that they haven't yet.

Also, their Houston loss was like a one possession game until the final minute, hardly a spanking.

Furthermore, they have had some significant injuries early, with Amare, Bell and Barbosa all missing games.

While the latter isn't an excuse, I bring it up because you brought up McGrady being out in their Houston win.

And while the Warriors may be in the bottom half overall, the Warriors team they played was the more recent, nearly-unstoppable version, not the 0-fer version that stumbled out of the gate.

Lots of context being added, and while none of it matters in the long run, if we're going to tear apart what they've done as "not good enough against the West" then perhaps it's needed now?

I would agree with your bigger point, as I have yet to get excited yet because they have just a handful of very good wins, most against the East.

[Extra Stout]

Will the Suns be raising a banner for 42 assists on 50 FG in a game?

[himat]

Parker who has terrible FG% with Duncan out, which is killing me.

I said that Parker is not an elite PG without Duncan with him and this injury is starting to prove it. Ginobili is way better than Tony Parker.

[Findog]

Let's wait till they play the likes of SA, Dallas, Utah, Denver, NO first.

I can't really speak to what they'll do against the other teams you mentioned, but I'm really dreading playing the Suns. I fully expect Phoenix to crack 130, maybe 140 with the way we're playing. We fucking suck right now.

[K-State Spur]

I said that Parker is not an elite PG without Duncan with him and this injury is starting to prove it. Ginobili is way better than Tony Parker.

Except that you're ignoring Parker's injury.

[da_suns_fan__]

Moreover the Suns are beating up on the East while putting up all these numbers. Sure they are 16-4 in 20 games, but 12 of those 20 have been against the East. They are 5-3 vs the West and 11-1 vs the East.

The Spurs on the other hand have only played 5 games vs the East and are 12-3 vs the West in compiling their 17-3 record.

And I can't emphasize this enough: the East sucks hind tit. Did you know that:

1. There are only 3 teams in the East that are better than .500 right now (BOS, DET, ORL). All the rest are .500 or below. In comparison, 9 out of 15 West teams are better than .500. There are more teams from the Southwest division (4) with a winning record than the entire East.
2. There are exactly 4 teams in the East with a positive PPG differential: the 3 division leaders and the Raptors. The freaking Southwest division alone has 4 teams with a +ve PPG differential. The West has 9 teams with a +ve PPG diff.

The East sucks and Phoenix (12 games) and Boston (15 games) have feasted on this fodder to rack up impressive records and stats. The Suns got spanked by the Lakers, Warriors and Rockets who are in the bottom half of the West playoff picture. They narrowly squeaked past the Kings and the Sonics, and beat the Rockets w/o McGrady once. They smashed the Kings and the Clippers. That's all they have done in the stronger conference. Let's wait till they play the likes of SA, Dallas, Utah, Denver, NO first.

The Suns opponents have had a better winning percentage than Spurs opponents:

Suns opponents: .486 winning percentage

Spurs opponents: .479 winning percentage

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerranking

[da_suns_fan__]

Washington in awe


The fans in Washington, D.C., always seem to enjoy watching the Suns more than other away fans. Maybe it's the democracy of the Suns offense with all of its equal rights and privileges to score.


With one of their area sons rejuvenated (Grant Hill) and another initiated (D.J. Strawberry via college), they seem to enjoy the show even more. When Amare Stoudemire, Caron Butler and Shawn Marion had three consecutive dunks in the first half, there was a bigger gasp for Stoudemire's and Marion's dunks than their Wizard's slam.

Even the Wizards sounded in awe.

"Tonight, we got to see a big-time playoff team," Washington center Brendan Haywood said.

Wizards fans do boo the Suns but it's funny. They put up photos of Dallas Cowboys, like Troy Aikman and Jerry Jones, or the Cowboys star to incite their fans during Phoenix free throws (What would happen if they put up Calvin Hill, Grant's father?). Don't take much from the boos. They even booed Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs, obviously there to cheer on his hometown Suns.

But just in case you're getting too excited about the Suns beating up on a bunch of mediocre teams, here's your daily dose of Steve Nash. He basically said the Suns are just doing what they should be doing.

"I think it's just a little run that we are on," Nash said. "I think we still have a lot of work to do even though we're playing well."

In other words, check back with him in two weeks after they have played Utah, New Orleans, San Antonio and Dallas consecutively.

Hell week for the Suns.

On an unrelated subject, I was watching the Knicks and Bulls from 92 on NBA tv today and they were previewing the next game which would be the next day.

How lucky are the Spurs that teams no longer have to do that (play back to back in the playoffs)?

[O-Factor]

4 Rings>
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those are Nash's assist totals for the last 5 games!!!!!

[Budkin]

Steve Nash is an amazing player, no doubt about it.

[Warlord23]

The Suns opponents have had a better winning percentage than Spurs opponents:

Suns opponents: .486 winning percentage

Spurs opponents: .479 winning percentage

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerranking

That is precisely the point I was trying to make about winning percentages. They are deceptive. Just like the Suns' 16-3 record is deceptive, so is the winning % of the teams they have beaten. A .500 East team is nowhere close in caliber to a West team with the same win %.

Let's try to do this a little more objectively:

Good teams the Suns have played:
Orlando X 2, Houston X 2, Golden State, Lakers (total = 6, record = 3-3)
Bad teams the Suns have played:
Seattle, Cleveland, Charlotte, Atlanta, Miami, NY X 2, Chicago, Sacramento X 2, Clippers, Indiana, Toronto, Washington. (total = 14, record = 13-1)
Potential Western playoff opponents the Suns have played:
Houston X 2, Golden State, Lakers (total = 4, record = 1-3)

Good teams the Spurs have played:
Orlando, Houston X 2, Dallas X 2, Utah, New Orleans, Lakers (total = 8, record = 6-2)
Bad teams the Spurs have played:
Sacramento X 2, Portland X 2, Memphis X 2, Miami, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Seattle, Washington, Minnesota (total = 12, record = 11-1)
Potential Western playoff opponents the Spurs have played:
Houston X 2, Dallas X 2, Utah, New Orleans, Lakers (total = 7, record = 5-2)

The Suns are 13-1 against poor teams and 1-3 against potential WC playoff candidates. The Spurs are 11-1 against poor teams and 5-2 against WC playoff candidates.

That is what I was referring to, and it is something that cannot be captured in Strength-of-Schedule that is computed solely via win %.

[dirk4mvp]

wow, i know most people don't like the suns or the op, but it's pretty stupid to come in with 4 rings bs.

[dirk4mvp]

you are relevant unless you're posting about bloading chodes with your boyfriends.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Is it really so difficult for some people to say WOW! Great Job!

4 rings is a stupid comment.

Debating East vs West and strength of schedule and team record has nothing to do with Nashs' assists.

To have 5 consecutive games, averaging over 16 assists in the NBA is just plain stupid. To have 42 assists on 50 makes is stupid. Give props or don't bother posting. Whether it's against the Twolves, Hawks or Spurs doesn't matter. It's still the NBA.

[BonnerDynasty]

It's cool, but the Suns won't be jacking up 130 points in the playoffs.

Wish I had league pass so I could watch their games though.

[Pistons < Spurs]

3rd qtr isn't over and Nash has 15 assists...The team has 26 on 34 makes.

[Extra Stout]

3rd qtr isn't over and Nash has 15 assists...The team has 26 on 34 makes.
Oh yes... so beautiful... never mind that they are losing to the 2-15 Timberwolves by 9... their offense is so pretty they shouldn't have to play any defense.

[Extra Stout]

If the Suns go on to lose this game, they should petition the league to award them the win anyway -- on account of the sheer aesthetics of having so many assisted baskets.

[batboy]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2007120727

:elephant

Break me off some of those rose-colored glasses.

[Extra Stout]

I'm so glad the Suns have a defensive stopper like Brian Skinner, so that opposing big men like Al Jefferson can't go wild on them.

[01Snake]

How about those T-Wolves??

[Cloud786]

haha they lost to the twolves

[itzsoweezee]

another big man rapes amare and the sons D. are you suns fans preparing yourselves for the inevitable disappointment awaiting you in the playoffs?

[CubanMustGo]

Congrats to Steve Nash for his 15 assists in tonight's 100-93 loss to the worst team in professional basketball.

[itzsoweezee]

3rd qtr isn't over and Nash has 15 assists...The team has 26 on 34 makes.


pretty stats but nothing to show for it, as usual.

[Extra Stout]

Is it really so difficult for some people to say WOW! Great Job!

Debating whether or not the Suns can actually beat the worst team in the NBA or not has nothing to do with Nashs' assists.

To have 5 consecutive games, averaging over 16 assists in the NBA is just plain stupid. To have 29 assists on 38 makes is stupid. Give props or don't bother posting. That they didn't actually win the game in question doesn't matter. So what if they only scored 13 points in the fourth quarter? It's still so preeeeeetty.

[picnroll]

Suns 29 assists on 38 FGs. :elephant :elephant

edit: Yahoo slow updating the boxscore. Even better. All hail the Suns.

[Extra Stout]

Suns 26 assists on 34 FGs. :elephant :elephant
It was 29 on 38! Get it right! Give them their props!

[Mr. Body]

Al Jefferson completely destroyed Amare Stoudamire.

[CubanMustGo]

Al Jefferson completely destroyed Amare Stoudamire.

I know Tim Duncan, and Tim Duncan's no Al Jefferson

[/s0nsfan]

[Extra Stout]

Al Jefferson completely destroyed Amare Stoudamire.
Luckily, for the Suns there aren't any Western contenders with dominant big men, so they won't miss Kurt Thomas' defense.

Besides, they have Brian Skinner!

[Extra Stout]

I know Tim Duncan, and Tim Duncan's no Al Jefferson

[/s0nsfan]
True, TD's washed up. Maybe we can trick Minnesota into a straight-up trade.

[da_suns_fan__]

Wow.....Spurs fans are REALLY scared of the Suns.

Fifth game in five nights and the Suns lose to an awful team.

I hope the Spurs write off the Suns as much as their fans do.

[JamStone]

Fifth game in five nights huh?

[Extra Stout]

Wow.....Spurs fans are REALLY scared of the Suns.

Fifth game in five nights and the Suns lose to an awful team.

I hope the Spurs write off the Suns as much as their fans do.
We are terrified of Amare Stoudemire's post defense.

[da_suns_fan__]

Fifth game in five nights huh?


Seven nights. :toast

[Extra Stout]

Fifth game in five nights huh?
Yeah, usually the league mixes in an off day. How unfair.

[CubanMustGo]

Fifth game in five nights huh?

Fourth in five, all road, true dat.

[dirk4mvp]

4 rings > losing to Minn.

[Extra Stout]

4 rings > losing to Minn.
29 assists > 4 rings. 29 is 25 more than 4.

[Extra Stout]

The humor value tonight is not in Phoenix's loss directly. It's in Pistons < Spurs' incredibly bad timing.

[dirk4mvp]

29 assists > 4 rings. 29 is 25 more than 4.

Josh Howard's 41 pts. so far tonight > 29

[picnroll]

Fifth game in five nights huh?
Forget it, he's rolling.

[Jeremy]

The loss is D'antoni's fault for playing his starters too many minutes, especially in the blowout win the night before. They had no legs left--see rebounding and shooting, especially in the 4th quarter.

[Pistons < Spurs]

The humor value tonight is not in Phoenix's loss directly. It's in Pistons < Spurs' incredibly bad timing.
too bad I've been quoted and can't go back and edit my post :)

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Get Amare Stoudemire the fuck off of my basketball team. The dude is turning into a super athletic version of Eddy Curry.

[BonnerDynasty]

0 and 4 when held under 100 pts.



Wow.....Spurs fans are REALLY scared of the Suns.


I hope the Spurs write off the Suns as much as their fans do.


:dizzy

[Nashfan]

Is it really so difficult for some people to say WOW! Great Job!

4 rings is a stupid comment.

Debating East vs West and strength of schedule and team record has nothing to do with Nashs' assists.

To have 5 consecutive games, averaging over 16 assists in the NBA is just plain stupid. To have 42 assists on 50 makes is stupid. Give props or don't bother posting. Whether it's against the Twolves, Hawks or Spurs doesn't matter. It's still the NBA.


:clap

[Nashfan]

How about those T-Wolves??

How about those Kings? Fifty points in the paint against the Spurs defense. :lol

[Nashfan]

Yeah, usually the league mixes in an off day. How unfair.

It was five games in seven days with two back to back games with some of the team sick. What is your excuse for losing to the Kings on November 26 by 13 points and giving up 50 points in the paint?? Think before you type. :rolleyes

[Nashfan]

4 rings > losing to Minn.

I don't think a Mavs fan has much to be spouting off about lately. Have you watched your teams defense of late. Worse than the Suns. Yeah you beat the Jazz last night but let them shoot over 50% and had to have a career game by Josh Howard to do it. Jazz also were playing a back to back game. :rolleyes

[Nashfan]

The loss is D'antoni's fault for playing his starters too many minutes, especially in the blowout win the night before. They had no legs left--see rebounding and shooting, especially in the 4th quarter.

I agree with you on this. I was pissed he played the starters so much against the Wizards knowing we had a game the next night. Could have used some of the bench last night against the Wolves to help with fresh legs. Oh well, our team had some sick players also but still embarrassing to lose to them. :depressed

[mavs>spurs2]

Nashfuck strikes again

[Nashfan]

Nashfuck strikes again

Funny :lol

[mavs>spurs2]

I don't think a Mavs fan has much to be spouting off about lately. Have you watched your teams defense of late. Worse than the Suns. Yeah you beat the Jazz last night but let them shoot over 50% and had to have a career game by Josh Howard to do it. Jazz also were playing a back to back game. :rolleyes

Sad but true

[PoleSmoking]

Moreover the Suns are beating up on the East while putting up all these numbers. Sure they are 16-4 in 20 games, but 12 of those 20 have been against the East. They are 5-3 vs the West and 11-1 vs the East.

The Spurs on the other hand have only played 5 games vs the East and are 12-3 vs the West in compiling their 17-3 record.

And I can't emphasize this enough: the East sucks hind tit. Did you know that:

1. There are only 3 teams in the East that are better than .500 right now (BOS, DET, ORL). All the rest are .500 or below. In comparison, 9 out of 15 West teams are better than .500. There are more teams from the Southwest division (4) with a winning record than the entire East.
2. There are exactly 4 teams in the East with a positive PPG differential: the 3 division leaders and the Raptors. The freaking Southwest division alone has 4 teams with a +ve PPG differential. The West has 9 teams with a +ve PPG diff.

The East sucks and Phoenix (12 games) and Boston (15 games) have feasted on this fodder to rack up impressive records and stats. The Suns got spanked by the Lakers, Warriors and Rockets who are in the bottom half of the West playoff picture. They narrowly squeaked past the Kings and the Sonics, and beat the Rockets w/o McGrady once. They smashed the Kings and the Clippers. That's all they have done in the stronger conference. Let's wait till they play the likes of SA, Dallas, Utah, Denver, NO first.

You're right. But you also have to remember that most of those East games were road games. Eastern Conference or not, road games are still tough -- especially when they come on long trips. The Suns have already had two extended East road trips. For comparison, the Spurs have played a ton of early home games (13), but have only played 8 total road games, none of them on extended trips. The Spurs don't play their first East road trip for a long time (Feb 5th-13th: 6 games in 9 days against Pacers, Wizards, Knicks, Celtics, Raptors, & Cavs). Just something to think about.

[himat]

Amare was never a defensive stopper, and ever since the knee injury he is not the most explosive big man anymore. Amare cannot shoot very well either. Marion has been whining since the beginning of the season too. If the KG rumors in the off season were true the Suns should of pulled the trigger even though they would have probably lost Amare and Marion.

[Nashfan]

Amare was never a defensive stopper, and ever since the knee injury he is not the most explosive big man anymore. Amare cannot shoot very well either. Marion has been whining since the beginning of the season too. If the KG rumors in the off season were true the Suns should of pulled the trigger even though they would have probably lost Amare and Marion.

Yeah, Amare isn't a defensive stopper but he can shoot well. You haven't been watching Suns games this year. He can hit the 15 to 16' jumper now really well. Marion whined before the season and has stopped now and played hard. Got to give him credit for continuing to play hard. I doubt we would have lost both Amare and Marion for Garnett, that would have been stupid to do.

[Strike]

29 assists > 4 rings. 29 is 25 more than 4.

:toast

[ATRAIN]

Wow.....Spurs fans are REALLY scared of the Suns.

Fifth game in five nights and the Suns lose to an awful team.

I hope the Spurs write off the Suns as much as their fans do.

Are you going to continue to be delusional year in and year out?

[Cry Havoc]

Yeah, Amare isn't a defensive stopper but he can shoot well.

Sorry, but this is going in my sig. :lol It's just too perfect.

[CubanMustGo]

Hopefully we get sigs turned back on someday. :depressed




[note to Kori: all in good fun.]

[ancestron]

We are terrified of Amare Stoudemire's post defense.
:lol

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Amare was never a defensive stopper, and ever since the knee injury he is not the most explosive big man anymore. Amare cannot shoot very well either. Marion has been whining since the beginning of the season too. If the KG rumors in the off season were true the Suns should of pulled the trigger even though they would have probably lost Amare and Marion.

Well I disagree with you on one thing, Amare is a great shooter and still very explosive.

Personally, I'd like to see us do an Amare for Maxiell, Wallace, and Johnson deal that Bill Simmons proposed in his last trade. Seems pretty fair.

Oh, and I'd also trade Marion for Artest and Udrih. Or at least sign Ron Artest after the season is over, because Steve Nash and Raja Bell are the only people on this team with balls.

[Rip-Hamilton32]

Well I disagree with you on one thing, Amare is a great shooter and still very explosive.

Personally, I'd like to see us do an Amare for Maxiell, Wallace, and Johnson deal that Bill Simmons proposed in his last trade. Seems pretty fair.

Oh, and I'd also trade Marion for Artest and Udrih. Or at least sign Ron Artest after the season is over, because Steve Nash and Raja Bell are the only people on this team with balls.
i don't think that the amare trade would ever happen, but in the artest trade the kings would be getting the best of it for sure, but i couldn't see either happening

[Mr. Body]

Well I disagree with you on one thing, Amare is a great shooter and still very explosive.

Personally, I'd like to see us do an Amare for Maxiell, Wallace, and Johnson deal that Bill Simmons proposed in his last trade. Seems pretty fair.

Oh, and I'd also trade Marion for Artest and Udrih. Or at least sign Ron Artest after the season is over, because Steve Nash and Raja Bell are the only people on this team with balls.

Good thing you're not the GM. Those are two really shitty trades.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

i don't think that the amare trade would ever happen, but in the artest trade the kings would be getting the best of it for sure, but i couldn't see either happening

Oh I know none of them would ever happen. Just a pipe dream.


Good thing you're not the GM. Those are two really shitty trades.

Nash-Bell-Artest-Maxiell/Skinner-Wallace is a very good defensive lineup, with Barbosa, Maxiell/Skinner, Diaw, Johnson, and Udrih off the bench is a deep, good defensive team.

[monosylab1k]

amare will never win a championship. guaran-fucking-teed. that stupid retard fucking dumbass unintelligent fuck can't comprehend championship level basketball. not that the mavs are any different, but these suns fan faggots ought to know that they're in the same fucking boat, they will NEVER WIN SHIT so enjoy that bitches!!!!!

[batboy]

32 assists tonight, the Suns sure do suck beautifully.