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howbouthemspurs
12-12-2007, 03:48 PM
A healthy Duncan vs a healthy Garnett in a gut it out, no holds barred slug fest! I mean it can't get any better than that right? The TV ratings for that would go through the roof! Two of the best big men of all time going at it like a couple of pit bulls. You know Garnett will give it his all since thats what hes been yearning for his whole career never being able to get past even the half way point of the mountain top. Duncan's been there, done that. But the one thing he hasn't done is get the repeat. Oh man that would be so amazing to watch!

Celtics vs Spurs...........Spurs in 7.
Its going to happen!


but if i know pop he would most likey not put Duncan against Garnett in most plays. At least defensively.

oh yeah... the rest of the guys would be fun to watch too:)...but the only two that anybody will care about is TD and KG.

ancestron
12-12-2007, 03:50 PM
Its an interesting thought, and would probably be a hell of a series, but IMO a Spurs-Pistons finals rematch would be more epic, especially if the Spurs go through Dallas to get there.

SenorSpur
12-12-2007, 03:52 PM
A healthy Duncan vs a healthy Garnett in a gut it out, no holds barred slug fest! I mean it can't get any better than that right? The TV ratings for that would go through the roof! Two of the best big men of all time going at it like a couple of pit bulls. You know Garnett will give it his all since thats what hes been yearning for his whole career never being able to get past even the half way point of the mountain top. Duncan's been there, done that. But the one thing he hasn't done is get the repeat. Oh man that would be so amazing to watch!

Celtics vs Spurs...........Spurs in 7.
Its going to happen!


but if i know pop he would most likey not put Duncan against Garnett in most plays. At least defensively.

oh yeah... the rest of the guys would be fun to watch too:)...but the only two that anybody will care about is TD and KG.

Agreed. That potential matchup would be one for the ages.

To your point about the head-to-head matchup of Tim and KG, I believe you're right. Pop would likely only match these two guys against one another at the end of the 2nd and 4th quarters. A fairly common coaching strategy designed to keep to keep their superstars out of foul trouble.

howbouthemspurs
12-12-2007, 04:21 PM
It would be great to watch Spurs vs Pistons again but Spurs vs Celtics would be legendary on an grand scale. The whole world would watch it. It would probably be the most watched series of all time! especially if it goes 7 games!

101A
12-12-2007, 04:23 PM
Meh.

Pop vs. Doc - in a series?

Not epic.

E20
12-12-2007, 04:24 PM
I would love it if the Spurs played the hottest team in the 1st round, then the Suns, then the Mavs. Truely the hardest road to the finals, then whichever team in the East that is the best at that point (June). That would be the ultimate Championship run.

JamStone
12-12-2007, 04:25 PM
I'd love to watch KG and TD against each other in the Finals, being a Pistons fan notwithstanding. However, with some perspective, the media would be all over it because of that match up and yet the two are so unselfish and surrounded by two other great players that that match-up wouldn't be the one that decides the series. Still would be a great match-up to watch.

But, pardon my bias, I'd still rather see the Pistons in the Finals.

FromWayDowntown
12-12-2007, 04:26 PM
Curiously, the Celtics would be looking to tie the Spurs for third place in terms of most championships won since the ABA/NBA merger -- or most titles since San Antonio joined the league. The Spurs have obviously won 4 during that time (1999, 2003, 2005, 2007), while the Celtics (less obviously) have won 3 (1981, 1984, 1986).

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, though.

SAtown
12-12-2007, 04:28 PM
I don't think a Boston SA matchup would even come close to what we saw with Detroit. They were the defending champs, they had depth (outside of 3 players), and it took 7 games to beat them. I don't know why people are getting so far ahead of themselves, but IF it were to happen, Spurs in 5 or 6.

howbouthemspurs
12-12-2007, 04:32 PM
Meh.

Pop vs. Doc - in a series?

Not epic.

No one would even think about them two! .. its all about TD vs KG!

lrrr
12-12-2007, 05:01 PM
If Flip Saunders pulls his head out of his ass, I don't see the Celts getting past Detroit. Their two best defenders (Rasheed and Prince) match up extremely well with KG and Pierce.

Not to mention that Billups would absolutely eat Rondo alive.

ancestron
12-12-2007, 05:04 PM
TD vs. KG is always a great matchup to see, but since KG's post-season relevance has been pretty much non-existent the last few seasons, it's hard to get too excited about it. I still think the Pistons rematch would be better, as they are still pretty much the best team in the East, and gone deep in the playoffs every year since they won it all in 04. Has Boston played them yet?

lrrr
12-12-2007, 05:12 PM
TD vs. KG is always a great matchup to see, but since KG's post-season relevance has been pretty much non-existent the last few seasons, it's hard to get too excited about it. I still think the Pistons rematch would be better, as they are still pretty much the best team in the East, and gone deep in the playoffs every year since they won it all in 04. Has Boston played them yet?

No. Boston hasn't beaten any powerhouse teams yet. The only time they have played a good team, they lost (orlando). Their schedule has been ridiculously soft.

The_Game
12-12-2007, 05:15 PM
this series would be the only way the ratings would be good. no other series spurs play in sadly would get any postive reviews.

Dingle Barry
12-12-2007, 05:32 PM
Flip Saunders has ruined Detroit. Why anyone thought he could coach is beyond my comprehension.

Flip Saunders fucking sucks. The end.

ancestron
12-12-2007, 05:35 PM
Flip Saunders has ruined Detroit. Why anyone thought he could coach is beyond my comprehension.

Flip Saunders fucking sucks. The end.

agreed.

Flip Saunders = puppet

remingtonbo2001
12-12-2007, 05:45 PM
I wish Larry still coach the Pistons

Jam Stone, It's not too late to get the word out in MotorCity.

IF the Celtics do get by the Pistons, the fold over like a house of stacked cards.
The Pistons play PHYSICAL, any team would be worn out after playing them. If the Spurs had to play another oppenent after our 7 game series in 05, we would have lost. Maybe even gotten sweat. It takes a lot of energy to take out the Pistons.

Mitch Cumsteen
12-12-2007, 05:57 PM
The Spurs need to play the Celtics in the finals. It's the only way this team is ever going to get the credit it deserves.

WalterBenitez
12-12-2007, 06:54 PM
When are we gonna face those greens ladies?

duncan228
12-12-2007, 07:02 PM
When are we gonna face those greens ladies?

In Boston: February 10
In SA: March 17

exstatic
12-12-2007, 08:01 PM
??????????
Spurs in 5

None of those guys have ever won anything. If you put a bunch of talented losers together, you have a bunch of talented losers.

JamStone
12-12-2007, 08:19 PM
Flip Saunders has ruined Detroit. Why anyone thought he could coach is beyond my comprehension.

Flip Saunders fucking sucks. The end.


Here's the thing. Everyone says Flip Saunders sucks. I don't think he's a great coach. But, his failures have come in the in the conference finals with the Pistons. That's hardly choking. And, in 2006, while the Pistons had a great regular season, the Heat actually played better than the Pistons in that series. They were the better team.

I don't understand why a lot of people keep blaming Flip Saunders for failing in the conference finals as it relates to the Pistons. Only four teams of 30 make it to the conference finals. And, people continue to say the Pistons aren't that good anyway. No superstar. Getting old. 2004 was a fluke. And, then there's the Flip Saunders sucks argument.

Every year since the 2004 championship, before the season starts, experts and fans of other teams will claim how the Pistons are done. They got lucky the year before. The east sucks. The Pistons don't have a superstar. And, then they go out, win their 50+ games a season and make it to the conference finals every year.

I'm missing something.

If Flip sucks, he sucks. Dumars and Davidson made it very clear he's staying for the long haul unless there's disaster. There has been no disaster. Disappointments sure. There could be much worse than continuing the tradition of 5 straight conference finals appearances.

O-Factor
12-12-2007, 08:30 PM
A healthy Duncan vs a healthy Garnett in a gut it out, no holds barred slug fest! I mean it can't get any better than that right? The TV ratings for that would go through the roof! Two of the best big men of all time going at it like a couple of pit bulls. You know Garnett will give it his all since thats what hes been yearning for his whole career never being able to get past even the half way point of the mountain top. Duncan's been there, done that. But the one thing he hasn't done is get the repeat. Oh man that would be so amazing to watch!

Celtics vs Spurs...........Spurs in 7.
Its going to happen!


but if i know pop he would most likey not put Duncan against Garnett in most plays. At least defensively.

oh yeah... the rest of the guys would be fun to watch too:)...but the only two that anybody will care about is TD and KG.

It would be AWESOME to see Bowen on Ray Allen in a seven game series :lmao Duncan and KG will almost cancel themselves out. TD does to many of the little things. The big thing is how would boston contend with Parker and Ginobili???????

I'll be generous and say Spurs in 6, but it'll probably be 5. Too much for Boston to handle.

J.T.
12-12-2007, 08:36 PM
??????????
Spurs in 5

None of those guys have ever won anything. If you put a bunch of talented losers together, you have a bunch of talented losers.

That what I was thinking.

Plus Ray Allen is Bowen's bitch and due for a supreme meltdown.

lrrr
12-12-2007, 09:07 PM
Here's the thing. Everyone says Flip Saunders sucks. I don't think he's a great coach. But, his failures have come in the in the conference finals with the Pistons. That's hardly choking. And, in 2006, while the Pistons had a great regular season, the Heat actually played better than the Pistons in that series. They were the better team.

I don't understand why a lot of people keep blaming Flip Saunders for failing in the conference finals as it relates to the Pistons. Only four teams of 30 make it to the conference finals. And, people continue to say the Pistons aren't that good anyway. No superstar. Getting old. 2004 was a fluke. And, then there's the Flip Saunders sucks argument.

Every year since the 2004 championship, before the season starts, experts and fans of other teams will claim how the Pistons are done. They got lucky the year before. The east sucks. The Pistons don't have a superstar. And, then they go out, win their 50+ games a season and make it to the conference finals every year.

I'm missing something.

If Flip sucks, he sucks. Dumars and Davidson made it very clear he's staying for the long haul unless there's disaster. There has been no disaster. Disappointments sure. There could be much worse than continuing the tradition of 5 straight conference finals appearances.

I don't think you'll find many people on this site who say the Piston's aren't a great team. They have earnt a lot of respect from Spurs fans, and rightly so, they made the finals 2years in row and came away with 1 trophy. We say Flip sucks cause he inherited the same team, and the perception is that he underachieved with that roster. I mean, the team that beat the Lakers and took the Spurs to 7 games then proceeds to loose to the Cavs? Unfair or not, the perception is one of underacheivement. not knocking the Pistons, but it isn't exactly hard to make the conference finals in the East. then there's his Minnesota days...

JamStone
12-12-2007, 09:33 PM
I don't think you'll find many people on this site who say the Piston's aren't a great team. They have earnt a lot of respect from Spurs fans, and rightly so, they made the finals 2years in row and came away with 1 trophy. We say Flip sucks cause he inherited the same team, and the perception is that he underachieved with that roster. I mean, the team that beat the Lakers and took the Spurs to 7 games then proceeds to loose to the Cavs? Unfair or not, the perception is one of underacheivement. not knocking the Pistons, but it isn't exactly hard to make the conference finals in the East. then there's his Minnesota days...


Not all Spurs fans, but I'm not just talking about the perception of Spurs fans. It's general sentiment by many if not most NBA analysts, sports writers, and the majority of fans of other teams that the Pistons have actually over-achieved. Every year since the championship is supposed to be the year the Pistons show their decline.

As for what Flip inherited, what happened to Frank Lawrence who inherited a New Jersey team that went to two straight NBA Finals? Actually inheriting a great team with past success and continuing that success could be argued to be tougher than inheriting a bad team and making that team good. I'm not defending Flip Saunders as a great coach. I don't believe he is. But, he could have easily done a worse job these past two seasons.

And, why can't the Pistons lose to the Cavs in a playoff series, especially with the way LeBron played in most of the games and the surprise of Daniel Gibson's shooting? If the Spurs were just better than the Pistons in 2005 and the Heat just played better in 2006, then only last year did the Pistons lose a series they should have won in the last three years. Very good teams are capable of losing playoff series they should win every now and then. Spurs against the Lakers in 2004? Spurs against Dallas in 2006? You can put part of the blame on Flip. But, he was not the only reason the Pistons lost either of the last two ECF series.

Again, that perception of "under-achievement" should be tempered with the fact that a great deal of people feel like the Pistons really aren't that good anyway and have "over-achieved" the last four seasons.

As for it being easy to get out of the Eastern Conference. While the Spurs are a great team, the Eastern Conference have won two of the last four NBA titles. It's not like the West is the automatic champion year after year for a long time.

BonnerDynasty
12-12-2007, 09:36 PM
Bown on Allen for a potential 7 games.

That'd be great T.V.

Epic Indeed.

El_Mago
12-12-2007, 09:42 PM
I can see where all this can go if it is Spurs vs. Celtics:

1. Spurs (got Duncan in Lottery...leads to 4 titles); Boston (loses out on Duncan)

2. Duncan vs. KG.....who truly is the better PF now that they have a supporting cast

3. Spurs (attempting to become a current Dynasty); Boston ( old dynasty)

4. Big Market vs. Little Market

5. NBA Superstars Galore.....

6. Spurs going for a 5th NBA Title....Paul, KG, Allen....going for their 1st

7. Actors Galore in attendance....

And many, many more...

m33p0
12-12-2007, 09:56 PM
flip saunders has trouble developing a defensive strategy against a one-man show team. game 5 last year, he failed to double-team bronbron in which james then proceeded to beat his man time and time again. then in game 6, it was double team all the way, which enabled bronbron to figure out who was open. i do hope he learned his lessons from that series and exact revenge on the cavs in the playoffs this year.

i would love to see the spurs-celtics finals if only to finally put an end on the duncan-garnett argument. garnett supporters has always argued that if garnett had the same support that duncan has had, he would have won more championship than duncan. well now he has that support. if the spurs win, that'll be the end of that. but if garnett wins, who knows how long that argument will last? spurs in 6.

pistons-spurs rematch has long been overdue. i still feel the spurs didn't beat the pistons in '05. the spurs outlasted the pistons. both teams have the same team philosophy when it comes to sharing the ball and putting an emphasis on defense.

but whatever happens, please, please don't let the cavs back in the finals. argh.

lrrr
12-12-2007, 10:02 PM
Pop is going to eat Doc's lunch if they meet in the finals, and I hope they do. If for no other reason than it'll be fun to watch.

The last championship showed just how great a coach Pop is. Look at the way Bron wrecked the Pistons, then see the defensive schemes the Spurs threw at him in the finals. It was brilliance. It wasn't just Bruce, as good a defender as he is, no one man can shut down Lebron like that, it was a total team commitment to a defensive strategy. I can understand why the causal fans lost interest. But it was beutiful from a Spurs fans perspective.

lefty
12-12-2007, 10:06 PM
It's not just Timmy vs KG...no

The most interesting matchups will be our defensive specialists vs Allen and Pearce; who will Bruce Bowen guard the most? Will Pop throw Udoka in there ?

Wow, Bruce vs his buddy Ray Allen; it's gonna be interesting.

Kobulingam
12-13-2007, 02:28 AM
Bruce would be on Pierce. No point wasting him on Ray Allen, who would only shoot 40% anyways.

peskypesky
12-13-2007, 02:54 AM
If Flip Saunders pulls his head out of his ass, I don't see the Celts getting past Detroit. Their two best defenders (Rasheed and Prince) match up extremely well with KG and Pierce.

Not to mention that Billups would absolutely eat Rondo alive.

I agree. I don't think Boston gets by Detroit in a 7-game series, unless of course, Detroit implodes like they did last year agains the Cavs. That was inexcusable and incomprehensible.

Billups will definitely destroy Rondo.

DazedAndConfused
12-13-2007, 03:05 AM
Boston is a hell of a lot better than everyone is giving them credit for. They are a scary good team and they will come out of the East easily IMHO barring injury. Spurs' fans should certainly not take them lightly just because Garnett, Allen, and Pierce haven't won anything individually.

The_Game
12-13-2007, 03:20 AM
Bruce would be on Pierce. No point wasting him on Ray Allen, who would only shoot 40% anyways.

Problem is bowen can't guard pierce......

NuGGeTs-FaN
12-13-2007, 03:36 AM
It wouldn't be a 'fair' matchup. Boston is going to waltz through the East and Spurs will likely have a much tougher time in a tougher conference.

bostonguy
12-13-2007, 03:45 AM
Here's the thing. Everyone says Flip Saunders sucks. I don't think he's a great coach. But, his failures have come in the in the conference finals with the Pistons. That's hardly choking. And, in 2006, while the Pistons had a great regular season, the Heat actually played better than the Pistons in that series. They were the better team.

I don't understand why a lot of people keep blaming Flip Saunders for failing in the conference finals as it relates to the Pistons. Only four teams of 30 make it to the conference finals. And, people continue to say the Pistons aren't that good anyway. No superstar. Getting old. 2004 was a fluke. And, then there's the Flip Saunders sucks argument.

Every year since the 2004 championship, before the season starts, experts and fans of other teams will claim how the Pistons are done. They got lucky the year before. The east sucks. The Pistons don't have a superstar. And, then they go out, win their 50+ games a season and make it to the conference finals every year.

I'm missing something.

If Flip sucks, he sucks. Dumars and Davidson made it very clear he's staying for the long haul unless there's disaster. There has been no disaster. Disappointments sure. There could be much worse than continuing the tradition of 5 straight conference finals appearances.

Last year you played a shitty orlando team, and a stupid Bulls team that easily could have pushed you 7 if it wasnt for them giving game 3 away. Then you were very fortunate the Cavs fucked up the first 2 games of the ECF or you would have been swept or beaten in 5 games. I wasnt impressed at all with the Pistons last season as it was fools gold they made it that far.
Again as long as the Celts stay healthy, they are winning the east. Your Pistons could make the ECF to wish us luck in the finals like you have done the past 2 years.

bostonguy
12-13-2007, 03:46 AM
I agree. I don't think Boston gets by Detroit in a 7-game series, unless of course, Detroit implodes like they did last year agains the Cavs. That was inexcusable and incomprehensible.

Billups will definitely destroy Rondo.


Pistons were lucky a 1 man team didnt sweep them last year. Their chances decline facing 3 stars and an underrated bench. Stop making excuses for a team who you like to kiss ass to. This circle jerk is quite pathetic.

bostonguy
12-13-2007, 03:55 AM
flip saunders has trouble developing a defensive strategy against a one-man show team. game 5 last year, he failed to double-team bronbron in which james then proceeded to beat his man time and time again. then in game 6, it was double team all the way, which enabled bronbron to figure out who was open. i do hope he learned his lessons from that series and exact revenge on the cavs in the playoffs this year.

i would love to see the spurs-celtics finals if only to finally put an end on the duncan-garnett argument. garnett supporters has always argued that if garnett had the same support that duncan has had, he would have won more championship than duncan. well now he has that support. if the spurs win, that'll be the end of that. but if garnett wins, who knows how long that argument will last? spurs in 6.

pistons-spurs rematch has long been overdue. i still feel the spurs didn't beat the pistons in '05. the spurs outlasted the pistons. both teams have the same team philosophy when it comes to sharing the ball and putting an emphasis on defense.
but whatever happens, please, please don't let the cavs back in the finals. argh.


Newsflash Piston ass kisser...These arent the same Pistons anymore. They will make the ECF if they get fortunate enough and wish the next team (which will be Boston as long as they are healthy) good luck in the finals. It is a new yearly tradition for the Pistons.

ShoogarBear
12-13-2007, 04:06 AM
Here's the thing. Everyone says Flip Saunders sucks. I don't think he's a great coach. But, his failures have come in the in the conference finals with the Pistons. That's hardly choking. And, in 2006, while the Pistons had a great regular season, the Heat actually played better than the Pistons in that series. They were the better team.That sounds good by itself, but he took a team that WON the conference Finals the previous two years and promptly got them not as far.

2006 maybe you can give him, except that the Pistons were felt to be the best team in the league all year until they lost to Miami.

2007 was an unforgiveable choke of historic proportions. Especially given the massive egg Cleveland promptly laid in the Finals.

bostonguy
12-13-2007, 04:12 AM
That sounds good by itself, but he took a team that WON the conference Finals the previous two years and promptly got them not as far.

2006 maybe you can give him, except that the Pistons were felt to be the best team in the league all year until they lost to Miami.

2007 was an unforgiveable choke of historic proportions. Especially given the massive egg Cleveland promptly laid in the Finals.


That wasnt a choke job. They were outplayed that ENTIRE series. Cavs fuckups missing point blake shots late in the games is the only reason that series went 6.

Udrihlooms
12-13-2007, 04:21 AM
Especially given the massive egg Cleveland promptly laid in the Finals.

They were in the Finals? Against us? :D :D :D

TheAuthority
12-13-2007, 04:54 AM
2. Duncan vs. KG.....who truly is the better PF now that they have a supporting cast

ROFL :lmao

The_Game
12-13-2007, 05:33 AM
ROFL :lmao

actually it's a great question. now that KG has help this year will show if duncan really was/is better than garnett.

raspsa
12-13-2007, 05:47 AM
I think containing Pierce will be key. TD vs KG and Bowen vs Allen seem a given, but who will tackle Pierce. Will Udoka be able to handle Allen leaving Bowen to guard Pierce?

On the other hand, the Celts will have their hands full dealing with Parker and Manu. Bench and experience definite Spurs advantage. Same advantage for Spurs in Coaching Dept.

The intangibles will be very important. Emotionally, Boston fans will be so keyed up and this could energize the Celts, specially the lesser players. Stranger things have happened specially in the Playoffs. I don't think this will faze the Spurs though. Spurs in 6.

TheAuthority
12-13-2007, 05:48 AM
actually it's a great question. now that KG has help this year will show if duncan really was/is better than garnett.

Not exactly. Garnett now has 2 superstars on his team, and he plays in the Eastern conference. Duncan has... well... himself and 2 very good players, and plays in the West.

TheAuthority
12-13-2007, 06:10 AM
Let us also not forget Elson has gotten into KG's head many a time in the past, while playing for the Nuggets. I believe they might have actually thrown at eachother before. In any case, Elson usually plays well against Garnett. They have similar styles.

ShoogarBear
12-13-2007, 07:50 AM
That wasnt a choke job. They were outplayed that ENTIRE series. Cavs fuckups missing point blake shots late in the games is the only reason that series went 6. And coaching had nothing to do with being outplayed like that?

Shaolin-Style
12-13-2007, 08:19 AM
I'd love that series from a competitive standpoint.

And it'd prove if anyone still has any doubts who the superior PF is, since years went by with "Kg doesn't have the supporting cast or else..." drivel

JamStone
12-13-2007, 08:50 AM
That wasnt a choke job. They were outplayed that ENTIRE series. Cavs fuckups missing point blake shots late in the games is the only reason that series went 6.

The Pistons were outplayed in game 6.

The first five games were all decided in the final minute by 6 points or less and could have gone either way, four of those games decided by 4 points or less.

Pistons should have won that series. I give at least as much credit to LeBron for his individual performances and Daniel Gibson coming out of nowhere to shoot lights out in two of those victories, including the series clinching game 6.

JamStone
12-13-2007, 08:52 AM
And it'd prove if anyone still has any doubts who the superior PF is, since years went by with "Kg doesn't have the supporting cast or else..." drivel

Right, because team versus team will prove which individual player is better.

And, what if god forbid the Celtics were to win the series? Would that make anyone believe KG is better than TD?

It would only prove it in your mind "if" the Spurs were to win the series. If the Celtics were to win, there's no way you'd concede that KG is the better PF.

m33p0
12-13-2007, 08:53 AM
Newsflash Piston ass kisser...These arent the same Pistons anymore. They will make the ECF if they get fortunate enough and wish the next team (which will be Boston as long as they are healthy) good luck in the finals. It is a new yearly tradition for the Pistons.

ass-kisser my ass, ass boy. if you do not agree on the similarities on both team's philosophy, how would you describe detroit's approach to basketball today?

they sure as hell can't outscore anyone. they rely on defense. too bad they had flip to guide them last year who, in game 5, failed to take the ball out of bronbron's hands. then followed it up the next game by doubling him everytime without mixing up the defense. in my opinion, the pistons' failure last year was not the fault of the players, but by poor coaching by flip which is something that can be fixed or learned from and hopefully, they do. you're welcome to refute that.

and excuse me for giving the pistons props. they gave us one heck of series in '05 and because of that, i still feel that that finals was the sweetest of them all. aside from the absence of ben wallace and larry brown, they are still basically the same team that i respected.

Shaolin-Style
12-13-2007, 12:38 PM
It would only prove it in your mind "if" the Spurs were to win the series. If the Celtics were to win, there's no way you'd concede that KG is the better PF.

You obviously don't know how I think, don't presume to.

KG's stats have always been great and often better than TD's though he hasn't changed the game as TD has. Nothings going to change my mind that Duncan was the best PF for the past decade, but if KG gets a championship this season especially from the Spurs he'd edge Duncan out in the here and now at the very least, barring any injuries to either of them that kept them sidelined.

SouthernFried
12-13-2007, 01:02 PM
East sucks. only 3 teams above .500, while the west have 9 teams above .500. Only the Division leaders in the east have freakin' winning records.

Spurs, or any, western conference team going to the finals will have a much tougher road. Boston should get there fairly easily. (no offense Detroit, just mho)

Boston is scary good. I agree. And with such an easy conference, they should be able to win it a lot easier, and prolly with fewer injuries than anyone out of the West. Who does that help more? Could be argued both ways.

It's a two-edged sword. They wont have quite the trial-by-fire any team from the West will have. It's gonna be a war out West. From the beginning of the playoffs till the end. Boston will prolly get a couple relatively easy playoff rounds. Not so in the West.

Boston vs Spurs. Yeah...that would rock. Could it rival the Spurs/Detroit series? That would be tuff.

But it would sure make the NBA Marketing people bueno happy.

Reggie Miller
12-13-2007, 01:45 PM
From 2003-2005, the Pistons were the most frightening team in the league. By frightening, I mean capable of beating you in a new way every night in a series. They may have been the only team I have ever seen in the expansion era that had five starters significantly better than league average on both ends of the floor. Teams don't usually have that luxury, and they are fortunate to create 4 mismatches over the course of an entire series. The Pistons rather handily disposed of some of the best ever Pacers teams. The Pistons also came within 12 minutes of beating the best overall of the Spurs' championship squads.

I hate the Pistons, but I respect them.

meta2007
12-13-2007, 02:05 PM
Celtics must defeat Raptors and Pistons first! Raptors are more talented, and Pistons have more playoff experience!

ancestron
12-13-2007, 03:08 PM
Yeah the Raptors are doing a lot better lately, they handed Dallas their ass last night.

SpurOutofTownFan
12-13-2007, 03:34 PM
Honestly I don't think the Celtics can win 3 games against the Spurs in a 7game series. But that's just my opinion.

SpurOutofTownFan
12-13-2007, 03:38 PM
From 2003-2005, the Pistons were the most frightening team in the league. By frightening, I mean capable of beating you in a new way every night in a series. They may have been the only team I have ever seen in the expansion era that had five starters significantly better than league average on both ends of the floor. Teams don't usually have that luxury, and they are fortunate to create 4 mismatches over the course of an entire series. The Pistons rather handily disposed of some of the best ever Pacers teams. The Pistons also came within 12 minutes of beating the best overall of the Spurs' championship squads.

I hate the Pistons, but I respect them.

I totally agree - for some reason I have the Pistons above all the other Spurs potential contenders - granted now without Ben Wallace they are a little gimped there but still have players like McDyess that contribute well. I think the series with Pistons 2 years ago was scary as hell - I could never count them out until the last game ended. They were very close as well and I still consider Billups top 2 PG in the league - that dude is clutch.

bostonguy
12-13-2007, 04:13 PM
ass-kisser my ass, ass boy. if you do not agree on the similarities on both team's philosophy, how would you describe detroit's approach to basketball today?

they sure as hell can't outscore anyone. they rely on defense. too bad they had flip to guide them last year who, in game 5, failed to take the ball out of bronbron's hands. then followed it up the next game by doubling him everytime without mixing up the defense. in my opinion, the pistons' failure last year was not the fault of the players, but by poor coaching by flip which is something that can be fixed or learned from and hopefully, they do. you're welcome to refute that.

and excuse me for giving the pistons props. they gave us one heck of series in '05 and because of that, i still feel that that finals was the sweetest of them all. aside from the absence of ben wallace and larry brown, they are still basically the same team that i respected.

The Pistons of 2005 are dead. This team isnt the force they once were. Like I said they have a new role now if anything. Make the ECF and wish the next team good luck in the NBA Finals. That team will be Boston as long as they stay healthy.

The_Game
12-13-2007, 05:03 PM
Celtics must defeat Raptors and Pistons first! Raptors are more talented, and Pistons have more playoff experience!

Raptors more talented? at what? the Raps are decent but have a 2nd rate guy as their best player...they are going nowhere but out in the first round.

JamStone
12-13-2007, 05:46 PM
You obviously don't know how I think, don't presume to.

KG's stats have always been great and often better than TD's though he hasn't changed the game as TD has. Nothings going to change my mind that Duncan was the best PF for the past decade, but if KG gets a championship this season especially from the Spurs he'd edge Duncan out in the here and now at the very least, barring any injuries to either of them that kept them sidelined.


I stand corrected if that would be your sincere reaction. I find it hard to believe many if any Spurs fans at all would concede KG is the better power forward or player if the Celtics were to end up beating the Spurs in this year's NBA Finals.

But, it is curious how you clarify "hear and now" with the hypothetical if the Celtics were to win whereas when your original comment didn't specifically talk about who the superior PF is "here and now."

JamStone
12-13-2007, 05:52 PM
The Pistons of 2005 are dead. This team isnt the force they once were. Like I said they have a new role now if anything. Make the ECF and wish the next team good luck in the NBA Finals. That team will be Boston as long as they stay healthy.

Let your team actually do something relevant before running your mouth.

Boston has great talent and their role players are underrated. They've had a great start. That isn't doing shit yet. Let's see how the Celtics handle some adversity, a Western Conference road trip, and better competition before anointing them for anything. I actually have a lot of respect for KG and Paul Pierce. I like them as players. It's shit talking fans like you that get on my nerve. Your team hasn't done shit in two decades. A little realistic humility wouldn't hurt.