How The 2000 Election Was Fixed

[Nbadan]

From The Programmer's Mouth:


Clinton E. Curtis, ex-programmer tells all during a Congressional hearing on voting fraud. In October 2000, Curtis was asked by Tom Feeney (R), then Speaker of the House in Florida, to write a computer program that would render electronic voting fraud undetectable. Curtis did just that


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....Shattering testimony to our democracy.....

[xrayzebra]

Hey Dan, how about a new title for this thread?

Like How the Iowa Caucuses were fixed in 2008.
Those damn Karl Rove operatives in dimm-o-crap clothing.

My Way
Flood of Campaign Operatives Cause Worry

Dec 14, 4:29 AM (ET)

By MIKE GLOVER

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) - Will they be checking for out-of-state IDs at the caucuses?

The major presidential campaigns are flooding the state with hundreds of field staffers, and there's at least some concern that those operatives could show up for the Jan. 3 precinct caucuses and distort the outcome of the opening test of the presidential nominating season.

Spokesmen for the leading campaigns reject that suggestion, saying there are strict rules banning operatives brought into the state from actually participating in caucuses. They note that the number of operatives potentially involved is far too small to have an impact on the outcome of caucuses, which are likely to be settled by an estimated 150,000 people on the Democratic side and over 80,000 on the Republican side.

Most of the concern comes on the Democratic race, where - unlike the GOP - the rules governing who can participate in a caucus technically include recent residents who may leave the state immediately afterward.

With the Democratic caucus contest very tight in most polls, the rival campaigns are keeping a close eye on what the others are doing and some provided The Associated Press with lists of campaign staffers registered to vote in Iowa in the various campaigns. One campaign listing showed that 51 of the 115 people on the staff of Hillary Rodham Clinton's Iowa campaign are registered to vote in the state, and that 91 of the 131 people working for John Edwards in the state are registered to vote in Iowa.

Another listing showed that 42 staffers working for Barack Obama's campaign have registered to vote in the state, many in the last six months or so.

Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor moved here to work on the campaign and is one of the Obama operatives who has registered to vote in Iowa. But Vietor said he and other Obama operatives who moved in from out-of-state to work on the campaign won't go to the precinct caucuses.

"We're pleased that so many talented people are working so hard and volunteering their time to elect Barack Obama, but it is our policy that employees and volunteers who moved to Iowa expressly to work on our campaign do not caucus," said Vietor.

Vietor said he did vote in a school board election in Des Moines, casting a ballot for Patty Link, wife of veteran Democratic operative Jeff Link. Ironically, Jeff Link is aligned with Edwards.

The issue has surfaced before, and comes because Republicans and Democrats run their precinct caucuses differently and, unlike a traditional election, they are governed strictly by the political parties.

On the Republican side, there are more restrictions. Local party officials running caucuses in each of the state's more than 1,780 precincts will get a list of registered Republicans who live in that precinct. Those who show up for a caucus who are not on the list can register to vote on the spot, but they will have to show some form of proof they actually live there.

"If you're not on a voter file for that precinct, you'd better have a driver's license or a utility bill," said Chuck Laudner, executive director of the Republican Party of Iowa.

Things work differently on the Democratic side. In each precinct, local officials will have a list of registered Democrats in that precinct. Those who show up and aren't on the list can register to vote by asserting that they live in the precinct and sign a voter registration form.

Technically, a campaign staffer who moved to Iowa a few months ago to work for a campaign is not breaking the law by attending a precinct caucus, even if the staffer plans to move on the morning of Jan. 4.

"It breaks the spirit of the law," said Carrie Giddins, spokeswoman for the Iowa Democratic Party. "The spirit of the law is really what drives the Iowa caucuses."

And that "spirit" is that those showing up for precinct caucuses were living in the precinct prior to caucus day and will continue to do so afterward, she said.

The major campaigns have pledged to live up to that spirit.

"Our campaign pledges to Iowa Democrats to follow the spirit and letter of Iowa state law and the Iowa Democratic Party rules governing the conduct of the caucuses," Vietor said.

Clinton spokesman Mark Daley issued a similar statement.

"The Iowa caucuses should belong to Iowans," said Daley. "While we would never do anything to disenfranchise the many Iowans who are working and volunteering on our campaign, it's our long-standing policy that any staffer or volunteer who has come to Iowa for the sole purpose of working on the campaign should not be allowed to caucus."


Copyright 2007 Associated Press. All right reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.








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[JoeChalupa]

2000 is so 7 years ago. All this BS from both sides is ridiculous.
and the dimm-o-crap shit is childish. :rolleyes I thought we were all above that. Xray makes some damn good points but that shit gets old.

[xrayzebra]

^^Nope Joe I am not above it. When the other side stops their
Bush bashing for every bump in the road then maybe I will stop
my dimm-o-crap. Maybe!

And could you explain something to me. Why should I stop
that little name, when Congress is run by two idiots who
more than likely have to have help finding their way to the
Chamber everyday. Hell Reid keeps his foot in his mouth
most of the time. Tell me he isn't a wee bit dimm. And
the All American Girl, Ms Pelosi, holy smokes what a joke.

[George Gervin's Afro]

^^Nope Joe I am not above it. When the other side stops their
Bush bashing for every bump in the road then maybe I will stop
my dimm-o-crap. Maybe!

And could you explain something to me. Why should I stop
that little name, when Congress is run by two idiots who
more than likely have to have help finding their way to the
Chamber everyday. Hell Reid keeps his foot in his mouth
most of the time. Tell me he isn't a wee bit dimm. And
the All American Girl, Ms Pelosi, holy smokes what a joke.


In other words ray reserves the right to act and post like a child.

[johnsmith]

For every Ray, there are five Boutons though.

[Nbadan]

It's relevant because....duH!... the 2000 election was stolen.... but also because many states still don't have paper trails and are about to vote on the same equipment in 08...

[BradLohaus]

What's Stalin's famous quote? Something like: "Voters decide nothing; people who count votes decide everything."

We need to have strictly paper ballots. The government lies too much to trust anything else.

[AZLouis]

Since when does getting the most popular votes mean you are going to be President?

[mavs>spurs2]

Since when does getting the most popular votes mean you are going to be President?

Gore had not only the most popular votes but should have had the most electoral votes as well. What's your point?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

xray you are such a piece of shit
do you post anything topic related EVER or do you just jack off to the word dimm-o-crap all fucking day?

[Clandestino]

everything is a fucking conspiracy to nbadan... it is funny to see you other dumbasses on his bandwagon...

[Wild Cobra]

It's relevant because....duH!... the 2000 election was stolen.... but also because many states still don't have paper trails and are about to vote on the same equipment in 08...
I can believe such a scenario can exist, but who did Yang Enterprises want to cheat for? Why is it that every touch screen data I've seen favored the democrats to win?

Don't you get it?

The democrats couldn't believe they lost, because they cheated! I have a file on the other computer that shows an example. Someone remind me please.

OK. Do I have this right? Tom Feeney wanted a program made, and he thought it was to detect election fraud, then Mrs. Yang said it was to actually commit fraud?

Who are we blaming?

Notice how he has no evidence of fraud…

Notice how he also ran against Feeney in 2006 and lost…

This could just be political propaganda too!

Please… good evidence…

I am sick and tired of pointing out such obvious things that shows the truth may be different than the story spin.

[xrayzebra]

It's relevant because....duH!... the 2000 election was stolen.... but also because many states still don't have paper trails and are about to vote on the same equipment in 08...

No Dan it was ALMOST stolen. But the Republicans called
the Democrats hand and kept what was rightfully earned.
The majority vote of Florida.

By the way dan, voting machines, do they produce a
paper trail? I thought not. And they were used for
years. Even here in dear old San Antonio.
Oh, heck, I forgot, that was when the Dimms won all
the elections.

[xrayzebra]

xray you are such a piece of shit
do you post anything topic related EVER or do you just jack off to the word dimm-o-crap all fucking day?

Ahhhh, have I upset you with my description of the
dimm-o-craps. I am so sorry. Like fun, I am.
:elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

[01Snake]

xray you are such a piece of shit
do you post anything topic related EVER or do you just jack off to the word dimm-o-crap all fucking day?

Need a tissue?