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Mr. Peabody
12-21-2007, 07:58 AM
Schwarzenegger: California will sue federal government

(CNN) -- California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger plans to sue the federal government over its decision not to allow a California plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, he announced Thursday.

Environmental Protection Agency chief Stephen Johnson announced the decision Wednesday, refusing the state's request for a waiver that would have allowed it to cut emissions faster than a new federal plan the president signed into law Wednesday.

"It's another example of the administration's failure to treat global warming with the seriousness that it actually demands," the governor said at a news conference Thursday.

Bush on Thursday defended the decision of his EPA administrator.

"Is it more effective to let each state make a decision as to how to proceed in curbing greenhouse gases? Or is it more effective to have a national strategy?" he said.

Citing the new energy law -- which sets a fuel economy standard for the whole country -- Bush said Johnson "made a decision based upon the fact that we passed a piece of legislation that enables us to have a national strategy."

But Schwarzenegger said he would like to set a higher standard for California. "Anything less than aggressive action on the greatest environmental threat of all time is inexcusable," he said.

The new federal law will increase fuel efficiency standards by 40 percent by 2020, requiring automakers to bring their fleets to an average of 35 miles per gallon.

The California plan, however, would cut emissions by nearly 30 percent by 2016, raising fuel efficiency standards in the state to 43.7 miles per gallon for passenger cars and some SUVs and trucks, while larger vehicles would need to reach 26.9 mpg by that year.

In all, 16 states had either adopted California's tough standards or announced plans to do so.

A top aide to Schwarzenegger said the governor has been frustrated with the White House over emissions standards, and was very exasperated after a February meeting with Johnson.

EPA officials say they went the extra mile with Schwarzenegger, even taking the unusual step of holding a second hearing in California on emissions. They say they're sorry he's upset, but they believe a national standard on emissions is going to be more effective.

A White House official would only react to Schwarzenegger's frustration by saying the administration "looks forward to working with him on a variety of issues."

In the ebb-and-flow relationship between Schwarzenegger and Bush, sources close to the governor say this is a low point.

"It's never been a warm, throw-your-arms-around-the-shoulders kind of relationship," said former Schwarzenegger adviser Joel Fox. "Even during the re-election campaign for the president, he would come to California and the governor wouldn't always be there to greet him."

Fox said Schwarzenegger and Bush have cooperated on issues like immigration, but the two have differed on several issues, including stem cell research funding, the expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program and climate change.

"He's got a pretty strong personality, the governor has, and wants to get things done. If the federal government is one of those obstacles, then he'll run that tank he has over it. It's not particularly anything personal, I think."

Schwarzenegger is much closer -- personally and politically -- to the president's father, former President George H.W. Bush, another aide said.

From CNN's Brian Todd and Dugald McConnell.

Oh, Gee!!
12-21-2007, 09:40 AM
what happened to states' rights?

Extra Stout
12-21-2007, 09:45 AM
what happened to states' rights?
"States" in that context has been reinterpreted to mean "multinational corporations," not the 50 administrative provinces.

boutons_
12-21-2007, 10:33 AM
dubya will do whatever the crops want him to do, whatever protects the moribund, uncompetitive US auto mfrs.

Like the Michigan (Detroit) congress memers who got the CAFE number lowered and stretched out through 3 more administrations, until 2020.

fuck the consumer and his high gas prices,
fuck the enironment,
and protect the auto and oil corps. "free market" my ass.

Wild Cobra
12-21-2007, 10:39 PM
Can someone please take a moment, brush up on your chemistry, and explain to me how you can both reduce CO2 output and increase MPG by the amounts they want? The federal; goal is too aggressive.

Take your time, but please, I ask that only someone tackle that question who understands the chemistry behind it.

BonnerDynasty
12-21-2007, 10:41 PM
Fuck Global Warming and more importantly....

Fuck Cali. Just break off the mainland already ffs.

I'm so sick of these self-richeous assholes with inflated real estate and bandwagon bleeding hearts to help mother earth at the expense of people who wish not to play along. I'll drive a truck till the day I die. No, I am not a redneck.

spurster
12-21-2007, 11:26 PM
Is there something about the GOP that makes them in favor of pollution? If you've ever been to California and experienced the smog, you would better understand their desire for stricter pollution regulations.

boutons_
12-22-2007, 12:40 AM
EPA Chief Is Said to Have Ignored Staff
By Janet Wilson
The Los Angeles Times Friday 21 December 2007


The head of the agency rejected written findings in ruling against a California emissions law, sources say. The head of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency ignored his staff's written findings in denying California's request for a waiver to implement its landmark law to slash greenhouse gases from vehicles, sources inside and outside the agency told The Times on Thursday.

"California met every criteria ... on the merits. The same criteria we have used for the last 40 years on all the other waivers," said an EPA staffer. "We told him that. All the briefings we have given him laid out the facts."

EPA administrator Stephen L. Johnson announced Wednesday that because President Bush had signed an energy bill raising average fuel economy that there was no need or justification for separate state regulation. He also said that California's request did not meet the legal standard set out in the Clean Air Act.

But his staff, which had worked for months on the waiver decision, concluded just the opposite, the sources said Thursday. The sources spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk with the media or because they feared reprisals.

California Air Resources Board Chairwoman Mary Nichols said she was also told by EPA staff that they were overruled by Johnson.

She said Johnson's decision showed "that this administration ignores the science and ignores the law to reach the politically convenient conclusion."

Nichols, who served as assistant EPA administrator overseeing air regulations under President Clinton, said she had helped write waiver decisions there, and "I know California met all the criteria on this one."

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has vowed to fight in court to overturn the decision.

Technical and legal staff also concluded that if the waiver were denied, EPA would very likely lose in court to the state, the sources said.

But if Johnson granted California the waiver and the auto industry sued, "EPA is almost certain to win," said two sources quoting the briefing document. They advised him to either grant the waiver outright or give California a temporary one for three years.

Instead, three sources said, Johnson cut off any consultation with his technical staff for the last month and made his decision before having them write the formal, legal justification for it.

"It's very highly unusual," said one source with close ties to the agency.

Normally the technical staff would be part of the final decision-making process, including briefing the administrator and writing the formal legal document before his decision. In this case, the briefings were done, but the formal finding has yet to be drafted.

Johnson could not be reached for comment late Thursday.

In Wednesday's media briefing announcing his decision, he said his staff "presented me with a range of options with a lot of pros and cons" and that he had considered them all.

Press secretary Jennifer Wood said Johnson chose to make his announcement before the decision was written because "he was also doing his best to keep his commitment to [Schwarzenegger]. He made a commitment to the governor to get the decision out by the end of the year, and he was ensuring he would be able to do that."

Some staff members believe Johnson made his decision after auto executives met with Vice President Dick Cheney and after a Chrysler executive delivered a letter to the White House outlining why neither California nor the EPA should be allowed to regulate greenhouse gases, among other reasons. The Detroit News reported Wednesday that chief executives of Ford and Chrysler met with Cheney last month.

"Clearly the White House said, 'We're going to get EPA out of the way and get California out of the way. If you give us this energy bill, then we're done, the deal is done,' " said one staffer.

Chrysler spokesman Colin McBean said that records show that Chrysler submitted position papers on the mileage issue with the Bush administration's Office of Management and Budget about five weeks ago. Neither McBean nor a Ford spokeswoman would comment on whether company executives met with Cheney.

Jennifer Moore, a spokeswoman on environmental issues for Ford in Dearborn, Mich., said her company had no reason to question the EPA administrator's assertion that his decision was independent of the White House.

Charles Territo, spokesman for the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers in Washington, said there was "absolutely not" any linkage between his trade group's decision to support the final version of the Senate energy bill and the EPA's decision to deny California's request for a waiver. Territo said the industry has always stressed a national mileage standard and opposed the California petition.

In a letter to Schwarzenegger on Thursday, Johnson said, "I have instructed my staff to draft the appropriate documents setting forth the rationale for this decision."

Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Beverly Hills) and Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) on Thursday announced they were opening investigations into the waiver denial and told Johnson to turn over all documents related to the decision. Waxman also told Johnson not to destroy any documents.

In response to a U.S. Supreme Court decision that the EPA could and probably should regulate greenhouse gases as a threat to public health, Johnson had promised to have his staff prepare by Dec. 31 a national proposal on how greenhouse gases from vehicles should be regulated.

Staff and other sources said the proposed standard cleared all EPA internal reviews and was forwarded to the Department of Transportation last week, before the energy bill was done.

But it is now unclear, when, if ever, such a proposed regulation will be issued.

Johnson ordered staff to stop work on the federal greenhouse gas proposal, said two sources inside and outside the agency.

Spokesmen for both the Department of Transportation and EPA said Thursday that because of the energy legislation signed by Bush on Wednesday, they were reviewing whether they still had the authority to set their own greenhouse gas standards for vehicles.

Transportation Department spokesman Brian Turmail said in an e-mail, "We are still analyzing the regulatory implications of the new energy law and will be deciding the best course of action shortly."

EPA staff and critics noted that the auto industry for decades had vigorously fought higher fuel efficiency standards only to change its stance in recent weeks.

"Clearly EPA's involvement in the California waiver and the federal vehicle standard both is why we are where we're at with this energy bill suddenly going to 35 mpg, which is very positive in a way," said an EPA staff person. "But that is not the end of the story."

Staff and critics said delay or outright elimination of the federal regulation on vehicles spells possible trouble for regulation of greenhouse gas emissions from other major sources.

"Once EPA makes the ... finding on vehicles, then it opens the door to standards for smokestack industries as well," said Frank O'Donnell of Clean Air Watch. "That's why the Chamber of Commerce and all the others wrote to the Senate.... They weren't doing it because they were worried about fuel economy for cars. The did it because they understand the legal ramifications if EPA moves forward with greenhouse gas standards."

balli
12-22-2007, 08:33 AM
I'll drive a truck till the day I die.
And that of course, might be the actual reason you die. Me too. How selfish and ironic.



No, I am not a redneck.
Yes you are.

Wild Cobra
12-23-2007, 01:28 PM
Is there something about the GOP that makes them in favor of pollution? If you've ever been to California and experienced the smog, you would better understand their desire for stricter pollution regulations.
When it is older cars and diesel engines making the smog, how is making cars that produce less greenhouse gasses going to help?

We are talking about two different things here. Modern cars already put out virtually zero pollution with the electronic emission controls, fuel mix, and catalytic converters. In fact, in places there the air is dirty, the exhaust is cleaner than the air they take in. To reduce greenhouse emissions by the levels stated appears impossible to me. When you burn any carbon based fuel, you get CO2. The only way not to is to either sequester it, or make Carbon Monoxide, or some other poisonous pollution instead.

I want someone to show me wrong. The EPA deals with such matters and they have some pretty good minds. The politicians of California are not scientists and don't understand how difficult what they want is.

What are the alternatives when they are talking about fuel based vehicles? Even hybrids don’t achieve what they are looking for, are costly, and have a greater environmental impact that fuel cars because of the manufacturing and disposal of their batteries.