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dallaskd
12-23-2007, 03:38 PM
The match every mixed martial arts fans has been waiting for the last 4 years. To me, this is the ultimate Christmas gift. I’m not going to sugar coat this MMA match up. Wanderlei “The Axe Murderer” Silva (31-7-1-1) is going to beat Chuck “The Iceman” Liddell (20-5). No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Wanderlei Silva is one of the most feared strikers in the world and has fought every top level MMA fighter in the world no matter the size. He lost to Cro Cop in PRIDE Final Conflict Absolute and to Mark Hunt (a K-1 champion) at PRIDE Shockwave 2004, but those two fighters are much heavier than him.

Silva has incredible striking skills as he is from the famed Chute Boxe academy in Brazil and trains with Shogun and Anderson Silva. His Muay Thai kicks and strikes are devastating. He has fought and beaten some of the best fighters in the world like Kazuyuki Fujita (heavyweight), Ricardo Arona, Kazuhiro Nakamura, Judo champion Hidehiko Yoshida twice, Yuki Kondo, Ikuhisa Minowa, Dan Henderson, Gilbert Yvel, Guy Mezger and two devastating KO’s over UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton Rampage Jackson at PRIDE Final Conflict 2003 and at PRIDE 28: High Octan. His wins over Jackson were so dominating that it was embarrassing.

Wanderlei Silva has great strikes and if the fight goes to the ground he has a Brazilian Jujitsu black belt. He is an all round fighter that has the ability to fight on the ground. Silva has fought all types of mixed martial arts fighter like jujitsu specialist, strikers, wrestlers and judo experts. He can adapt to all styles and Liddell has nothing that can surprise Silva at UFC 79 expect for some looping over hands.

Silva has been training with Team Couture in Vegas at Xtremecouture and Randy will have important inside information on how to fight Liddell. He is fighting top level fighters while training. Where is Chuck Liddell training? He is still doing the same routine and fighting at The Pit fight the same guys. At this point in his career he is too old to learn anything new, and just doesn’t want to learn.

I have said time and time again Chuck Liddell is a one dimensional fighter. He has no ground game whatsoever. Everyone knows he will strike. Yes, he has power and the ability to knock out fighters BUT when he fights fighters that have equal to or better power and striking skills, he WILL lose. Read our MMA matchup reports when he fought Keith Jardine and when he fought Rampage Jackson.

Liddell throws wild punches and his hands are constantly wide and to the side. When he fights a pure striker like Silva he will not be able to handle his striking technique or power. Whenever Liddell fights a striker he loses like Quinton Jackson, Keith Jardine and he should have lost to Alistair Overeem if he had better cardio.

Liddell is an average fighter at best. He is an good striker that has wins over below average strikers like Jeff Monson, Guy Mezger, Kevin Randleman, Vitor Belfort, Tito Ortiz, Renato Sobral, Jeremy Horn and Murilo Bustamante. Can Liddell win? Yes but if will be a lucky punch. Silva has faced much better and harder striker in the world and in my opinion there is no way he will be able to KO Silva.

Bottom Line: Silva wants this fights and is training really really hard and right now. He looks shredded and ripped. Silva is one of the most feared fighters in the world and lives and breaths fighting. He wants to beat Liddell and beat him badly. Liddell is basically living the life as a superstar. He is partying way too much at clubs and there are constant rumors about him doing drugs. He is on the tail end of his career and he just does not want to train to improve his fight game. His ground is non existent and his striking is not what it use to be. His fighting stance is way too wide and he will be caught with shots. His mentality has been you have to take shots to get shots but when he is fighting a superior stand up fighter that theory gets him beat. Chuck wants to act in TV shows and party like a rock star while Silva is training to tear his head off. I believe that they are at least 6 fighters right now that can beat Chuck on the UFC.

I honestly see no one particular attribute that Liddell has over Silva. He is not as strong, does not have as hard of hands, has one kick in his arsenal (high right leg kick), does not have the hand speed and is not better on the ground than Silva. Silva is one the most feared MMA fighter in the world and there is a reason for that.

Liddell is the face of the UFC and he is marketed as such but you have to look past the corporate marketing machine to realize that Liddell is not a good fighter. All Liddell is, is a name and Silva will expose him so badly in this fight.

Wanderlei will lay a beating on Chuck in the first right and at the start of the second round will punish Chuck until the ref will mercifully stop this fight.


by Cam Campbell

http://www.fighting-mma.com/mma-matchups/ufc-79-chuck-liddell-wanderlai-silva.php

Evan
12-23-2007, 03:53 PM
someone pm kori for vbookie!

dallaskd
12-23-2007, 04:06 PM
Im on it.

atxrocker
12-23-2007, 04:14 PM
silva with a tko

Rip-Hamilton32
12-23-2007, 10:50 PM
chuck by tko, the article forgot to mention that silva was probaly on roids over in japan lol

dallaskd
12-23-2007, 11:37 PM
yeah the article is very bias. lol it should be an interesting fight. No reason why Chuck cant take it.

sa_butta
12-25-2007, 10:27 AM
I really like the Iceman, but I think Silva will take him down and hand him his 3rd loss in a row. There is much inconsistancey in the UFC, but I just dont see Liddell the same anymore after losing to Jardine. I really hope to see some bombs in this one.

MrChug
12-26-2007, 03:54 PM
Chuck in 2...brutally.

Evan
12-26-2007, 04:20 PM
There is much inconsistancey in MMA.


Fixed.

Its just a temporary thing. All of the fighters are cross training now in every aspect of MMA which used to never be done until recently.

Evan
12-26-2007, 04:21 PM
Oh an Silva by KO in 3.

Its going to be a bad first round I think as both fighters come out timid but its going to be fireworks after that.

LEONARD
12-27-2007, 09:40 AM
Chuck will get axe'd in the 2nd round...

Evan
12-27-2007, 10:02 AM
Chuck will get axe'd in the 2nd round...

ROCK ME!

oligarchy
12-27-2007, 11:27 AM
I have a feeling that this isn't going out of the first.

Rip-Hamilton32
12-27-2007, 06:21 PM
cmon i need the vbookie to put 6000 on chuck lol

Evan
12-27-2007, 07:22 PM
cmon i need the vbookie to put 6000 on chuck lol

PM Kori

dbreiden83080
12-27-2007, 08:41 PM
I have a feeling that this isn't going out of the first.

Yeah from a stylistic point of view this is a fight that is almost an impossibility to go the full 3 rounds. Silva is an insanely agressive fighter who is going to come full force straight ahead. He is on record as saying he is going to go for the KO in rd1. Chuck likes to counter punch and i think that will be his strategy in this one. Let Silva come to him and counter him with probably a big right hand. I see Silva taking this one due to his versatility as a striker but he could easily get caught by Chuck with a KO counter punch.

LEONARD
12-28-2007, 09:04 AM
After watching Countdown to UFC 79 last night, I think Chuck is in trouble. Wandy's training was insane...who knows about Chuck's super secret pit training...they wouldn't let the cameras in to watch them... :lol

dbreiden83080
12-28-2007, 10:50 AM
Yes, Silva to me just looks hungrier for this fight. I bet he feels like he is 31 years old and is still young enough for one more run at the top. I am sure the fact that he beat Jackson twice has him really AMPED to get a title shot. He beats Chuck and he is likely to get one in the not so distant future. He looked more focused and determined in training. Chuck is 37 years old and i do feel that his celebrity distractions and the partying lifestyle has indeed caught up to him. He is still a good fighter, i just don't think he is great anymore.

Silva by KO.

LEONARD
12-28-2007, 11:14 AM
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/5355-Chuck_vs_Wanderlei.jpg

atxrocker
12-29-2007, 11:00 AM
Chuck is 37 years old and i do feel that his celebrity distractions and the partying lifestyle has indeed caught up to him. He is still a good fighter, i just don't think he is great anymore.




i don't know that i would go that far. chuck is still a dangerous fighter. i agree that he may have lost some of his rawness, dude can still knock a motherfucker out and is as experienced as any fighter out there. i have already predicted a silva win, but i wouldn't underestimate chuck either. i sure hope silva doesn't.

MaNuMaNiAc
12-29-2007, 05:59 PM
Liddell is going to get fucking raped. Silva is a beast

Evan
12-29-2007, 06:58 PM
wand displaying his gear.

heh

Mr Dio
12-29-2007, 11:59 PM
no pride in pride tonite.....
They went O'Fer..........


Nice domination by Chuck.

dallaskd
12-30-2007, 03:15 PM
Chuck had what 3 takedowns? :lol
Wandy looked good, but when Chuck entered the octagon the look in his eyes said he was not going to lose that fight.

I got my pic! haha Chuck by Decision

dallaskd
12-30-2007, 08:17 PM
http://a816.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/42/l_22cffbbf45ac855a7b186996bf64ea47.jpg

MrChug
01-02-2008, 01:46 AM
I win...kinda. Never sleep on the Chuckster.

dallaskd
01-13-2008, 09:13 PM
So how long until Chuck gets another title fight and who do you think he has to beat based on the upcoming cards and whos fighting in them?

polandprzem
01-14-2008, 05:20 AM
This fight has moments. But Icemn had the adventage from the begining. I wonder why so many ufc fights are standing fights. In pride most of the fights were on ground and much more versatile. Mostly in ufc when you get somebody on the ground yopur try to punch him, nothing more.

That was good fight though.