Colts vs Titans SNF

[J.T.]

Jim Sorgi will have a better night than VY.

[SpursFanFirst]

:cheer

[Horry For 3!]

Browns hope so.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

who the hell is sorgi

[J.T.]

who the hell is sorgi

Dude who is going to have a better night than Vince

[LaMarcus Bryant]

titans are about to bust the fuckin michelins off this colts bandwagon

[J.T.]

I remember what happened the last time Reggie fumbled in the Dome. . . because I was there.

Be afraid.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Be afraid of what? Honestly I didn't even know the Colts were part of the NFL this season, seeing as how they haven't been mentioned once by any pundit in this Partiot-dominated season.

[J.T.]

33 more yards and Reggie owns the receiving title.

[J.T.]

Be afraid of what? Honestly I didn't even know the Colts were part of the NFL this season, seeing as how they haven't been mentioned once by any pundit in this Partiot-dominated season.

Another thing I remember is the last time the Colts went into the playoffs with nobody expecting them to win. Be afraid.

[J.T.]

David Thronton forcing that fumble hurts. Probably the same feeling Pats fans get when they see Vinatieri kicking FG's in Blue and White.

[J.T.]

VY scramble!

[J.T.]

4th down suckas.

Man VY is such an overrated bitch.

[J.T.]

Peyton already got 4000 yards, get Reggie his 33 and put Sorgi and Friends in the game.

[J.T.]

Injury timeout!

Seems like we get a lot of these any time the Colts are on SNF. . .

[SpursFanFirst]

That hit hurt!!!

[SpursFanFirst]

Peyton already got 4000 yards, get Reggie his 33 and put Sorgi and Friends in the game.

How many now?

[J.T.]

How many now?

He has 70, tied with Moss... so 1 more catch and Reggie's got it.

Here comes Automatic Adam. . .

[J.T.]

Vinatieri drills the FG. 3-7

[J.T.]

Uh oh... female celeb with a Manning jersey's at the game... bench him!

[dirk4mvp]

Uh oh... female celeb with a Manning jersey's at the game... bench him!


It's ok as long as the jersey wasn't pink.

[SpursFanFirst]

Uh oh... female celeb with a Manning jersey's at the game... bench him!

:lol who was it?

[SpursFanFirst]

:lol Sanders received the "Terry Award" this morning on Fox Sports Sunday. Did anyone else see that?

[J.T.]

chode bload i saidddddd

[J.T.]

:lol who was it?

Danica Patrick

[dirk4mvp]

lmao

now let's see a screen or slant pass to Super Reggie.

[J.T.]

I always hate this Manning's Mind commercial they always run on NBC because he didn't wear 18 until the pros and they have him wearing 18 as a kid. . . Someone marketing genius didn't do their homework.

[SpursFanFirst]

I always hate this Manning's Mind commercial they always run on NBC because he didn't wear 18 until the pros and they have him wearing 18 as a kid. . . Someone marketing genius didn't do their homework.

But would the random fan know that?

[dirk4mvp]

There we go.

[J.T.]

There it is. 1499 yards, I bet they throw him one more for 1500 and then yank him.

[J.T.]

There it is. 1499 yards, I bet they throw him one more for 1500 and then yank him.

I should have just waited to hit submit reply on this one. It happened that fast.

Reggie goes out with 100+ catches and 1500+ yards on the season.

[dirk4mvp]

Let us ponder the idea of Sorgi being the full time starter.

[Extra Stout]

I always hate this Manning's Mind commercial they always run on NBC because he didn't wear 18 until the pros and they have him wearing 18 as a kid. . . Someone marketing genius didn't do their homework.
The Game of Life isn't going to win itself.

[J.T.]

Sanders laying wood on VY.

[J.T.]

Jim Sorgi half minute drill GO!

[J.T.]

Taking a knee like a vag.

[J.T.]

But would the random fan know that?

He wore 14 in HS, 16 in college and 18 in the NFL. I'm inclined to believe he wore 12 in pop warner.

Some random fans probably don't know they have ten fingers.

[SpursFanFirst]

He wore 14 in HS, 16 in college and 18 in the NFL. I'm inclined to believe he wore 12 in pop warner.

Some random fans probably don't know they have ten fingers.

To be honest, I didn't know that...but then I've never researched Manning.
And that's the thing...most people probably don't know that, so they made the commercial as obvious as possible.

[dirk4mvp]

Sorgi to Thorpe has a nice ring to it...

[mikejones99]

manning should be banned from all tv

[SAtown]

Titans vs SD next weekend

[Tippecanoe]

dammit. the one time i root for a colts victory...and they lose. cleveland IS cursed!!

[atxrocker]

lmao @ colt fans. vy in the playoffs!

[Light Grenades]

not for long..

[dirk4mvp]

Titans vs SD next weekend


With this, idk why people keep saying watch out for VY in the playoffs. The Bolts D will bload his chode on many occasions.

Vince Young sucks.

[SpursFanFirst]

lmao @ colt fans. vy in the playoffs!

Why is that funny? :huh

[Fabbs]

what happened to 3 and out Sorgi in the 2nd half? I left off at 10-9.

[J.T.]

Philip Rivers may actually be a worse QB than Vince, but the Titans can't score for shit. They were held to FGs by Colts 2nd stringers. . . SD will rout the shit out of them if Rivers has a decent game.

[monosylab1k]

With this, idk why people keep saying watch out for VY in the playoffs. The Bolts D will bload his chode on many occasions.

Vince Young sucks.
It was nice that they could beat the shit out of Kansas City & Denver to end the season "strong" but let's not forget that this guy will be on the sidelines.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/turner_norv1204.jpg

Gimme Jeff Fisher and 11 pre-teen ballerinas over Norv Turner and the Chargers any day.

[T Park]

I'll take the Titans over the chargers 16 to 14 to go on and play the Patriots and get totally blown out of the water :lol

[J.T.]

It was nice that they could beat the shit out of Kansas City & Denver to end the season "strong" but let's not forget that this guy will be on the sidelines.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/turner_norv1204.jpg

Gimme Jeff Fisher and 11 pre-teen ballerinas over Norv Turner and the Chargers any day.

As much as Norv Turner sucks, did you see the Titans last two games? They monumentally failed to find the end zone against the worthless Jets and the Colts second teamers. Vince Young is a bust, and he obviously has no confidence in himself because he said he has to talk to team doctors before he knows if he'll play or not after sustaining an injury that was caused by tripping over himself. Not a hard hit... no tackle at all. Bolts score over 20 and they win that game.

The Titans won't beat the Bolts, and the Bolts won't get six picks on Manning again the week after, which is what they'll probably need to happen to even have a chance. [enter TSA with his "under the radar" BS in 3, 2, 1. . .]

[fyatuk]

Philip Rivers may actually be a worse QB than Vince, but the Titans can't score for shit. They were held to FGs by Colts 2nd stringers. . . SD will rout the shit out of them if Rivers has a decent game.

I told you the Titans would win in a low scoring game :P

VY looked really good last night, and if the freaking running backs held on to the ball (something that normally happens with Tenn) they would have had at least 1 more touchdown and probably at least another field goal. Of course if Reggie Wayne held onto the ball,the colts would have score a TD there.

Only 4 incompletions and at least 2 were drops. If VY wouldn't have gotten dinged he would have walked over over the second stringers of the Colts. It'll be an interesting game in SD, since both teams are by far better on the run, and both have wildly inconsistant QBs.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Thanks Titans!!!!!!!!!!!! Now the Cowboys will get a Top 5 pick in the draft. Hello McFadden?...............................

[traitoravery]

With this, idk why people keep saying watch out for VY in the playoffs. The Bolts D will bload his chode on many occasions.

Vince Young sucks.
WTFE....If it wasnt for 2 fumbles the score would have been 21-3 at half you douche. VY just needs an Irvin or Rice to throw too. All great QBS have had a great reciver beside them. So STFU

With the Titans D now and Pacman coming back next year the defense will be the best in the AFC. Now all they need is an ELITE WR and they will SB contenders.

[dirk4mvp]

WTFE....If it wasnt for 2 fumbles the score would have been 21-3 at half you douche. VY just needs an Irvin or Rice to throw too. All great QBS have had a great reciver beside them. So STFU

With the Titans D now and Pacman coming back next year the defense will be the best in the AFC. Now all they need is an ELITE WR and they will SB contenders.


WR's need a QB who can throw the ball to them...not 10 yards behind them or in front of them.

Best D in the AFC with Pacman. lmao


Vince Young sucks. Just too bad he was a Longhorn or every VY nut gobbler would realize it.

[J.T.]

Thanks Titans!!!!!!!!!!!! Now the Cowboys will get a Top 5 pick in the draft. Hello McFadden?...............................

Browns had a winning record. . . How will that equate to Top 5?

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Browns had a winning record. . . How will that equate to Top 5?
i was wondering the same thing.

[stretch]

WR's need a QB who can throw the ball to them...not 10 yards behind them or in front of them.
While VY still has some things to work out, sometimes its not easy to throw it on the money if the reciever runs the wrong route, or runs it so horribly that the defenders can predict what the reciever does, thus giving him no options. And it's hard to even trust your recievers when they drop half the balls you throw to them... even easy things like a little 5 yard curl.

[J.T.]

Cowboys could trade both of their first rounders to Miami for the #1 so they can get D-Mac.

[monosylab1k]

The top 3 teams in the draft don't need a RB.....Dallas should trade with one of them if they want McFadden, because Oakland will take him for sure at #4.

[leemajors]

WR's need a QB who can throw the ball to them...not 10 yards behind them or in front of them.
VY was 14-18 that game?
:wtf

[dirk4mvp]

VY was 14-18 that game?
:wtf


Great.


But I wasn't talking about last night.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

see its when total street fags like you use my parlance that it backfires and you look like damn fool

Talk shit talk shit, VY still got his team into the playoffs in his second season.
brahhhhh

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I hadn't seen LenDale White fumble like that since the Rose Bowl.

[dirk4mvp]

see its when total street fags like you use my parlance that it backfires and you look like damn fool

Talk shit talk shit, VY still got his team into the playoffs in his second season.
brahhhhh


I think I will keep talking shit. Especially when LT rubs his gigantic cock across the faces of the Titans D next sunday.

[atxrocker]

er... how would you know that his cock is gigantic?

[dirk4mvp]

TSA told me

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I think I will keep talking shit. Especially when LT rubs his gigantic cock across the faces of the Titans D next sunday.

playoffs

[dirk4mvp]

playoffs


yeah, the playoffs next sunday where the Titans lose due to VY's magnitude of suckness.

[mardigan]

yeah, the playoffs next sunday where the Titans lose due to VY's magnitude of suckness.
Im sure having the worst recieving group in football has really helped him be an effective qb.

[dirk4mvp]

Im sure having the worst recieving group in football has really helped him be an effective qb.


Nope. Garrard has been doing a hell of a job with the worst rec. group in football.

[fyatuk]

Nope. Garrard has been doing a hell of a job with the worst rec. group in football.

IMO the Titans' is worse than the Jags'. Not by much though. The Jags have 4 receivers that could probably be at least 3rd receiver on many teams, the Titans have 1.

The Jags' Williams is the only receiver who's played decently all year for both teams combined.

Of course, Garrard is certainly the better QB right now, but if Young improves again the way he has every year at least since showing up at UT, that difference might shrink to insignificant next year.

[stretch]

Nope. Garrard has been doing a hell of a job with the worst rec. group in football.
You're an idiot.

[dickface]

Garrard has 2 first round picks at WR.

[dirk4mvp]

Garrard has 2 first round picks at WR.


And they both blow. Does 1st round pick automatically = good player or something?

But I know how much you loves Matt Jones and think he's really good despite Del Rio not playing him much. lmao


You're an idiot.

thanks

[monosylab1k]

And they both blow. Does 1st round pick automatically = good player or something?

But I know how much you loves Matt Jones and think he's really good despite Del Rio not playing him much. lmao


No, but first round picks obviously have enough physical gifts to warrant being taken that early. Reggie Williams was a top-10 pick. If you're saying that Reggie Williams & Matt Jones aren't as talented as Roydell Williams & Justin Gage, you're insane.

Garrard has 3 large, fast receivers.....and maybe the fact that none of them have been extremely successful has something to do with their QB having to have the offense simplified to a high school level in order to play well. Not that Leftwich was great, but they all had better numbers with Byron playing QB because, despite his injuries and lack of mobility, Leftwich knew how to run an NFL level passing game.

And despite being deactivated for half the season, Matt Jones was still second on the team in TD catches. He's got incredible skills, the reason he was deactivated and benched was personal between him and Del Rio, not football related.

Garrard has offensive weapons out the ass. Vince Young has...........Lendale White?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Cowboys could trade both of their first rounders to Miami for the #1 so they can get D-Mac.
It doesn't necessarily have to be McFadden but any decent runningback that can replace Jones. I'm tired of his ass.

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And they both blow. Does 1st round pick automatically = good player or something?

But I know how much you loves Matt Jones and think he's really good despite Del Rio not playing him much. lmao


The Jags may not have great recievers, but at least they don't drop half the passes that are right in their hands every single week. I'll take those guys over the Titan's core any day.

[ATRAIN]

Thanks Titans!!!!!!!!!!!! Now the Cowboys will get a Top 5 pick in the draft. Hello McFadden?...............................


I don't think the cowboys would try to get McFadden, Im sure someone will try to trade up to get him.

[Extra Stout]

Garrard has 3 large, fast receivers.....and maybe the fact that none of them have been extremely successful has something to do with their QB having to have the offense simplified to a high school level in order to play well. Not that Leftwich was great, but they all had better numbers with Byron playing QB because, despite his injuries and lack of mobility, Leftwich knew how to run an NFL level passing game.
The historical record regarding receiver statistics under Leftwich disagrees with your claims here. The receiver who had decent numbers was Jimmy Smith.

[ATRAIN]

WR's need a QB who can throw the ball to them...not 10 yards behind them or in front of them.

Best D in the AFC with Pacman. lmao


Vince Young sucks. Just too bad he was a Longhorn or every VY nut gobbler would realize it.


:rollin :rollin :rollin :clap :clap :lmao :lmao :lmao

[monosylab1k]

The historical record regarding receiver statistics under Leftwich disagrees with your claims here. The receiver who had decent numbers was Jimmy Smith.
Nobody's talking about Jimmy Smith. How did you even come up with that name? When was he ever mentioned? We're talking Reggie Williams, Matt Jones, & Ernest Wilford. And they all had more success with Leftwich than with Garrard.

[dirk4mvp]

The Jags may not have great recievers, but at least they don't drop half the passes that are right in their hands every single week. I'll take those guys over the Titan's core any day.


I wouldn't voluntarily take either core. I wouldn't mind a qb who could get the receivers the ball though.

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I wouldn't voluntarily take either core. I wouldn't mind a qb who could get the receivers the ball though.
A QB wouldn't mind recievers who don't drop the balls and know how to run their routes correctly. See every single great (or even just good) QB in NFL history.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Nobody's talking about Jimmy Smith. How did you even come up with that name? When was he ever mentioned? We're talking Reggie Williams, Matt Jones, & Ernest Wilford. And they all had more success with Leftwich than with Garrard.

What are you talking about? This was by far Reggie Williams best year as a pro. Wilford's numbers are pretty much the same; shitty.

Jones didn't play nearly as much as years prior so he doesn't even belong in the conversation.

[monosylab1k]

What are you talking about? This was by far Reggie Williams best year as a pro. Wilford's numbers are pretty much the same; shitty.

Jones didn't play nearly as much as years prior so he doesn't even belong in the conversation.
by far? did you see him make a couple nice catches on ESPN and immediately pass judgement? he caught 10 TD's but he also had only THIRTY EIGHT receptions for the entire year. That's 14 less than his previous best.

Like I said, if you actually watched the Jaguars you'd know that offensively the team was much more fluid with Leftwich, but his injury history and lack of mobility gave them trouble. It wasn't until Jones-Drew emerged that Garrard ever looked like a halfway competent QB.

Matt Jones & Reggie Williams both were turning into very solid playmaking WR's with Leftwich. With Garrard, WR's are almost a non-factor because he can't read defenses for shit, so everything had to be dumbed down to the point where it's nothing but checkdowns and screens. This year he's improved a bit, but most of that has to do with having a guy as explosive as Jones-Drew there. With the talent he has around him, there's no reason the Jaguars shouldn't have a passing attack that rivals the Cowboys & Colts. Unfortunately their QB has almost no ability to throw the ball downfield (not due to arm strength, but due to cluelessness on how to find the open man downfield, anticipate where the defense is going, or look off a safety).

seriously, know what the fuck you're talking about before you say anything at all.

[Extra Stout]

Nobody's talking about Jimmy Smith. How did you even come up with that name? When was he ever mentioned? We're talking Reggie Williams, Matt Jones, & Ernest Wilford. And they all had more success with Leftwich than with Garrard.

I came up with Jimmy Smith when fact-checking your statement, because he is the only Jaguars receiver to gain over 1,000 yards since the end of the Mark Brunell era. You reiterate the notion that there has been some meaningful dropoff in the statistical success of Jaguars receivers since Garrard took the helm. I just don't see it in the statistics, except for Matt Jones, and his decline can be more easily explained as his being in Del Rio's doghouse.



Player Year Rec Yds TD
R. Williams 2007 38 629 10
2006 52 616 4
2005 35 445 0
2004 27 268 1

E. Wilford 2007 45 518 3
2006 36 524 2
2005 41 681 7
2004 19 271 2

M. Jones 2007 24 317 4
2006 41 643 4
2005 36 432 5

[monosylab1k]

Yeah your numbers wouldn't be complete bullshit except for the fact that Leftwich never played a full season, and each of the past 2 years before Leftwich's departure, Garrard played a portion of the season as well. Throw in a Matt Jones injury in 2006 as well. Full season numbers don't tell anything of the story.

[Extra Stout]

Yeah your numbers wouldn't be complete bullshit except for the fact that Leftwich never played a full season, and each of the past 2 years before Leftwich's departure, Garrard played a portion of the season as well. Throw in a Matt Jones injury in 2006 as well. Full season numbers don't tell anything of the story.
If there were such a notable difference between the two quarterbacks, wouldn't even the partial contribution of Byron Leftwich to his receiver's stats be evident?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

by far? did you see him make a couple nice catches on ESPN and immediately pass judgement? he caught 10 TD's but he also had only THIRTY EIGHT receptions for the entire year. That's 14 less than his previous best.

Like I said, if you actually watched the Jaguars you'd know that offensively the team was much more fluid with Leftwich, but his injury history and lack of mobility gave them trouble. It wasn't until Jones-Drew emerged that Garrard ever looked like a halfway competent QB.

Matt Jones & Reggie Williams both were turning into very solid playmaking WR's with Leftwich. With Garrard, WR's are almost a non-factor because he can't read defenses for shit, so everything had to be dumbed down to the point where it's nothing but checkdowns and screens. This year he's improved a bit, but most of that has to do with having a guy as explosive as Jones-Drew there. With the talent he has around him, there's no reason the Jaguars shouldn't have a passing attack that rivals the Cowboys & Colts. Unfortunately their QB has almost no ability to throw the ball downfield (not due to arm strength, but due to cluelessness on how to find the open man downfield, anticipate where the defense is going, or look off a safety).

seriously, know what the fuck you're talking about before you say anything at all.

10 TDs(previous best of 4) and a YPC significantly better(5 yards per) than any year with Leftwich.

The most 20+, 40+ and 1st down catches of his career.

Maybe you should watch a little closer.

[monosylab1k]

10 TDs(previous best of 4) and a YPC significantly better(5 yards per) than any year with Leftwich.

The most 20+, 40+ and 1st down catches of his career.

Maybe you should watch a little closer.
he was developing into a possession receiver with Leftwich. He's nothing but a deep threat/decoy with Garrard. They send him deep and throw everything underneath to Northcutt/Jones-Drew. Ocassionally when left wide open he'll get a bone tossed his way, and he makes good on it.

It's really a shame since he's far too talented to simply be a deep threat that rarely gets used. If he had a QB who knew how to deliver a ball downfield with any consistency, he'd be an 80 catch/1000 yard receiver easy. Same with Matt Jones. Hell, after his failure in Indy, Quinn Gray turned out to be a better downfield passer than Garrard. Just like you focus far too much on VY's passer rating, you completely miss the picture here as well. Like I said, instead of spouting stats off ESPN.com, find out what the fuck you're talking about and then comment.

[Extra Stout]

I won't argue that Leftwich had a much stronger arm than Garrard does, or that he could make more of the throws, or that Garrard was awful at the end of 2006, but it's hard to argue with the efficiency of the Jags' passing game this year. Garrard made major strides in his ability to read defenses this year. Last year, if the first receiver wasn't open, rather than making his progressions, he'd take off and run. This obviously has changed this season, as he ran 20% less often relative to the number of times he dropped back to pass.

If he is just a stupid quarterback with a defective arm who cannot read defenses and just has to dink and dunk, then how is he seventh in the league in yards per attempt? How is he also seventh in touchdown percentage? If he cannot read defenses, how does he throw only three interceptions all year?

Is it perhaps just that the Jags were more aesthetically pleasing with Leftwich's better vertical game?

If I'm rooting for a real team as opposed to a fantasy team, especially one with the Jags' running backs, I'm perfectly happy with a quarterback who converts third downs and doesn't turn the ball over. Garrard is perhaps the best example of the "game manager" QB.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

he was developing into a possession receiver with Leftwich. He's nothing but a deep threat/decoy with Garrard. They send him deep and throw everything underneath to Northcutt/Jones-Drew. Ocassionally when left wide open he'll get a bone tossed his way, and he makes good on it.

It's really a shame since he's far too talented to simply be a deep threat that rarely gets used. Just like you focus far too much on VY's passer rating, you completely miss the picture here as well. Like I said, instead of spouting stats off ESPN.com, find out what the fuck you're talking about and then comment.

What are you talking about? You said he had better years with Leftwich. When exactly was that? The half catch per game? You act like he went from 80 catches to 35.

And I don't focus on VY's passer rating. It's his ability to read a defense and throw the ball accurately over 10 yards. His WRs haven't helped him out at all. They are the worst set of WRs in the playoffs, possibly the entire league. He has still sucked this year. He should have been better than he was the second half of the year. He should be worlds better next year, though it isn't quite the lock the most thought it would be.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

And I still think the Titans should trade for Roy Williams. He wants to be closer to Texas and should help out VY tremendously.

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And I still think the Titans should trade for Roy Williams. He wants to be closer to Texas and should help out VY tremendously.
I think that would be a GREAT move for the Titans. Or someone like Anquan Boldin.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

It makes too much sense for both teams, a bona fide deal killer under the Millen regime.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

LOL

No matter what VY ever does in any situation, he'll always get hate from fags who wish he had gone to their school and won them a national championship against the biggest stinkiest pussy former champs of all time