Listen to Fred Thompson

[xrayzebra]

The man makes sense.

Fred's Talk To Iowa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VblJq4j0_SE)

[MaNuMaNiAc]

only in your head

[Extra Stout]

Thompson is the most mainstream conservative of the Republicans, and probably has the best vision of what he would do as President of any of them. When he first entered the campaign, I thought he was the "corporate" pick, like Bush was, but that is definitely not true. He is anything but a media creation (despite being an actor). If the Texas Republican primary were today, he'd get my vote.

It really seems as though he hates campaigning, though, which will make it tough to get elected.

[SouthernFried]

Lots of guys say the right things.

We are so far past the stage where any single person, including the President, can actually do anything tho. The millions of people in the beaurocracies run the govt now...and they aint going nowhere and have zero incentive to get rid of their jobs.

You want decreased govt spending/growth/intrusion...it ain't gonna happen in any of our lifetimes. The only way it will happen now, is if the American economy is sucked so dry they can't increase the govt any more. We are approaching that point (business's leaving, not actually make anything, anymore,) but, ain't there yet.

So, yeah...politicians can say all the right things you want them to. Mebbe they'll even do some superficial social stuff that'll make headlines. Mebbe build a fence, or allow prayers in public. But the meat of the govt is here to stay folks...and it's just going to get hungrier and hungrier 'till the prey cannot support it any longer.

And that's the way it is, January 1, 2008!

SIG

[SouthernFried]

BTW...nothing against Fred.

Any Repbublican would be stronger on Defense than any Democrat. Pretty much a given. Probably the only real reason to support Reps over Demos.

They'll both increase the size of govt. Heard too many GOPers talk about decreasing the size of govt, only to see it rise yet again. This includes Reagan. Not all their fault, because the Social Entitlements are mandated to increase every year, and that's 65% of our budget. So Govt is gonna increase forever whether they want it to or not.

Still, there are the social and Defense issues that they may have a little control over. Better than nothing I guess.

I'd vote for Fred...or Rudy...or even...or even....or even....Mm..mmm.....mcclain.

[ClingingMars]

huckabee 08

-Mars

[xrayzebra]

Huckabee is a farce. A phony. I see no sincerity in any thing
he has said so far.

[Extra Stout]

I could distribute this negative ad about Mitt Romney, but I'm going to take the high road and not show it because I love Jesus. Stay tuned to see the negative ad I am not distributing.

[braeden0613]

Huckabee is a farce. A phony. I see no sincerity in any thing
he has said so far.
Amen to that!

[Oh, Gee!!]

I'll listen to Thompson when he finally admits that his campaign has been a failure.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7682.html

[T Park]

Yeah Fred Thompson is the best out of everyone, but he had horrible campaign managers.

I personally root for a McCain Thompson ticket.

THAT would be fantastic.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I like Romney, unfortunately he's been attacked for being Mormon. Fucking lame ass reason not to vote for him.

[lawstudent]

Not voting for a Mormon is legitimate to those that believe JC is their personal Lord and Savior.

[j-6]

I like Romney, unfortunately he's been attacked for being Mormon. Fucking lame ass reason not to vote for him.

Enlighten me.

What I know about Mormons consists of Brigham Young's multiple wives, HBO's "Big Love", and that an angel showed up in New York a couple hundred years ago with a newer testament. I'm sure we can argue regarding the industrious nature of such followers and their aversion to spirits, premartial sex, and those funny looking rabbit suit garment things they wear as an Iron Curtain to teenage hardons.

I respect the fact that Romney built himself into a millionaire and won elected office in an extremely liberal state. But to me, a Mormon is like a mutant evangelical that would unequivocally let his beliefs get in the way of effective government.

Besides, one candidate's a dyke, one's a Muslim, one preaches weight loss and Baptist morals, one's the bald guy from Law and Order, one's a proven adulterer - in office, and one's a faggy trial lawyer. There's also a rapidly aging Nam vet and and a libertarian picking up the pack.

Being a Mormon may be the lesser of twelve or so evils.

[Extra Stout]

Not voting for a Mormon is legitimate to those that believe JC is their personal Lord and Savior.
If a Mormon is running against a secularist who is Protestant in name only, who is preferrable?

[xrayzebra]

Not voting for a Mormon is legitimate to those that believe JC is their personal Lord and Savior.

Wonder why people haven't taken more note of
Obama's church. Check it out on the link below.


Obama's Chuch (http://www.tucc.org/about.htm)


Sounds like the church could be a little racist to me.

[lawstudent]

If a Mormon is running against a secularist who is Protestant in name only, who is preferrable?

Well that my friend explains the rise of Huckabee.

[Extra Stout]

Well that my friend explains the rise of Huckabee.
Evangelicals voting for Huckabee because he is an evangelical is like blacks voting for Al Sharpton because he is black.

[Spawn]

Wonder why people haven't taken more note of
Obama's church. Check it out on the link below.


Obama's Chuch (http://www.tucc.org/about.htm)


Sounds like the church could be a little racist to me.

I guess they need to "integrate" into the "mainstream." Let them lose all sense of cultrual identity.

So typical.

[Extra Stout]

I have a Greek Orthodox friend. At his church, they insist upon speaking Greek and practicing Greek culture. They even have a Greek festival! Racists.

[Spurminator]

Wonder why people haven't taken more note of
Obama's church. Check it out on the link below.


Obama's Chuch (http://www.tucc.org/about.htm)


Sounds like the church could be a little racist to me.


How much more note should be taken? I can't count how many times I've gotten emails forwarded to me about Obama's upbringing and/or his church.

[xrayzebra]

How much more note should be taken? I can't count how many times I've gotten emails forwarded to me about Obama's upbringing and/or his church.

I am simply pointing out that church issues are not a one
way street. Evidently being a Mormon and White is much
more serious. But being black and belonging to a
militant church is quite okay.


quoting Spawn I guess they need to "integrate" into the "mainstream." Let them lose all sense of cultrual identity. So typical

I guess integration and mainstream are bad in your
estimation. And may I ask, as if I didn't already know,
what do you mean by "so typical".

Guess you want to play the old race card. If you
point out a critical thing about a minority of course you
are racist. How typical of a liberal.

[Spawn]

I am simply pointing out that church issues are not a one
way street. Evidently being a Mormon and White is much
more serious. But being black and belonging to a
militant church is quite okay.



I guess integration and mainstream are bad in your
estimation. And may I ask, as if I didn't already know,
what do you mean by "so typical".

Guess you want to play the old race card. If you
point out a critical thing about a minority of course you
are racist. How typical of a liberal.

Militant church? So a church that wants to celebrate its own heritage has to be militant? Poor Romney it is just so hard to be white and Mormon in this country.

Yes integration and mainstreaming is bad in my opinion and I could care less if you are a racist because unlike fools like MLK I could care less about trying to convince Whites on believing that they are better than they think they are. It is all about Black empowerment for me. If that is playing the "race card" then so be it.

Oh and me a Liberal Bwwwhaaaaaaaaa!!!

[Soul_Patch]

That south park episode regarding mormon's was fuckin brilliant.

[xrayzebra]

Militant church? So a church that wants to celebrate its own heritage has to be militant? Poor Romney it is just so hard to be white and Mormon in this country.

Yes integration and mainstreaming is bad in my opinion and I could care less if you are a racist because unlike fools like MLK I could care less about trying to convince Whites on believing that they are better than they think they are. It is all about Black empowerment for me. If that is playing the "race card" then so be it.

Oh and me a Liberal Bwwwhaaaaaaaaa!!!

Oh, well so much for level playing field. Just give me
what I want when I want it, because I am a minority.
:greedy

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Besides, one candidate's a dyke, one's a Muslim, one preaches weight loss and Baptist morals, one's the bald guy from Law and Order, one's a proven adulterer - in office, and one's a faggy trial lawyer. There's also a rapidly aging Nam vet and and a libertarian picking up the pack.

Being a Mormon may be the lesser of twelve or so evils.i didn't see the mention of a shriveled up gynecologist.

[Spawn]

Oh, well so much for level playing field. Just give me
what I want when I want it, because I am a minority.
:greedy

What the hell are you talking about? You really are a racist. I don't want anything given to me I am going to take it, but I guess the only way you can see a "minority" being successful is by being given something.

[xrayzebra]

What the hell are you talking about? You really are a racist. I don't want anything given to me I am going to take it, but I guess the only way you can see a "minority" being successful is by being given something.


That wasn't what you said. Was it?

I could care less if you had stripes. As long as you work
for what you get/got, good for you. Go for it with my
blessings.


As for being a racist, I'm not. I just get a little tired of
people trying to ride of the history of this countries
slavery. People want respect, earn it. Don't demand
it. Besides I would be surprised if any slave owners or
people who were slaves are still alive in this day and time.
It happened, nothing you nor I can do about it. It
was a accepted practice in those days. And as a matter
of fact is still practiced in some parts of the world and
even in the U.S. of A. Not legally, but many illegals
are kept in slavery to pay the coyote for his services.