BcS Championship

[timvp]

Worst "championship" game in history?

[50 cent]

Lsu

[Indazone]

umm how do I bet on OHIO STATE TOTALLY CRUSHING LSU??? Bogus V-bookie

[Flight3107]

LSU by 20+

[lebomb]

LSU is the most overrated team in BCS history.........OSU will beat em.

[Thunder Dan]

LSU is the most overrated team in BCS history.........OSU will beat em.

LSU might be the best team the NCAA has ever seen in the last year

[lebomb]

LSU might be the best team the NCAA has ever seen in the last year


What? Hugh??.......wait? Hugh??
:dizzy

[Marklar MM]

The way things are going so far, OSU is going to blow out LSU.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

osu = consistently overrated, ted ginn jr and every other offensive prospect from that school is crap
lsu = injured but big enough to push osu around

it can go either way

[samikeyp]

Lsu 35-17

[Indazone]

Osu 30 Lsu 21

[johngateswhiteley]

The way things are going so far, OSU is going to blow out LSU.

huh? the way things are going so far? illinois got piss pounded by SC. wisconsin lost to tennessee and michigan played there ass off and beat florida. how does that equal ohio state winning in a blowout? or were you joking?

lsu 19
osu 13

...closer than i originally thought it might be, but i doubt a blowout on either side.

[J.T.]

I pick Joseph Addai's Alma Mater to win this one.

[tp2021]

Lsu 27
Osu 24

[John Rocker]

Ohio State 27
LSU 13


book it!

[Thunder Dan]

This guy is a beast and will be a wrecking crew for LSU's backfield
http://images14.fotki.com/v223/photos/7/798917/5530025/071024_msu_nn4v8505-vi.jpg

http://photo.the-ozone.net/photos/2007_2008/Football/07-09-01-FB-0080.jpg

http://photo.the-ozone.net/photos/2007_2008/Football/07-11-17-FB-0864.jpg

[degenerate_gambler]

This guy is a beast and will be a wrecking crew for LSU's backfield


who the hell is that guy?

[Thunder Dan]

who the hell is that guy?

Vernon Gholston

[NoMoneyDown]

As the season goes so to will this game, I bet. Everyone is probably figuring a 13-10 type of game with the two defenses getting all the hype. It will probably end up being something like 52-48 or something crazy like that. Ohio State hasn't played since when? Around Thanksgiving? That's like a summer break. LSU is just too unpredictable to peg - especially with a month off.

[thispego]

This guy is a beast and will be a wrecking crew for LSU's backfield
http://images14.fotki.com/v223/photos/7/798917/5530025/071024_msu_nn4v8505-vi.jpg

http://photo.the-ozone.net/photos/2007_2008/Football/07-09-01-FB-0080.jpg

http://photo.the-ozone.net/photos/2007_2008/Football/07-11-17-FB-0864.jpg
holy crap, that dudes' arms are fuckin ginormous :wow

[jochhejaam]

Worst "championship" game in history?
No, last year's Ohio State loss was the worst. If we win, by any margin, I'll have to call it one of the 2 best BCS Final's ever (the best was when the Buckeyes beat Miami).

[Vinny Del Negro]

that guy's gut screams HGH user.

[Mr Dio]

No, last year's Ohio State loss was the worst. If we win, by any margin, I'll have to call it one of the 2 best BCS Final's ever (the best was when the Buckeyes beat Miami).


Actually,the best by far is when UT beat the "best" :lol team in history....
It was the 2nd yr in a row VY won on the newly named, Vince Young Memorial Field, Pasadena, CA........ :fro

[jochhejaam]

Nice start :)

[dallaskd]

why am i watching this shit called a championship game? oh OSU just took it tha HOUSE!

whats the over/under on the ratings for this game?

[dallaskd]

lsu/flynn suck ass

[John Patrick]

i thought when healthy dorsey is near unstoppable? where was he during that td run?

[Vinny Del Negro]

i guess tressel hasn't learned that nursing a 7 point lead with 58 minutes to go isn't a viable strategy in championship games

[tlongII]

Another great performance by the Big-10! :rolleyes

[Mr Dio]

Actually,the best by far is when UT beat the "best" :lol team in history....
It was the 2nd yr in a row VY won on the newly named, Vince Young Memorial Field, Pasadena, CA........ :fro

[johngateswhiteley]

hmm, looks like another Big 10 school is over matched by an SEC power. hopefully, this game is close b/c i want SC to get consideration for the NC...its possible.

[Dre_7]

hmm, looks like another Big 10 school is over matched by an SEC power. hopefully, this game is close b/c i want SC to get consideration for the NC...its possible.

I think Georgia should get NC consideration over USC.

[Marklar MM]

hmm, looks like another Big 10 school is over matched by an SEC power. hopefully, this game is close b/c i want SC to get consideration for the NC...its possible.

If thats the case, then you might as well have a 4 way championship between USC/LSU/West Virginia/Georgia.

[Dre_7]

If thats the case, then you might as well have a 4 way championship between USC/LSU/West Virginia/Georgia.

Yeah but LSU, WV, and Georgia didnt lose to Stanford.

[Marklar MM]

Yeah but LSU, WV, and Georgia didnt lose to Stanford.

WV lost to Pitt. :spin
Georgia lost to South Carolina

[johngateswhiteley]

I think Georgia should get NC consideration over USC.

Georgia is good, but i don't think they're as good as SC...we'll see how the votes play out.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

tOSU had no business being in this game. Thank the media pukes for this one. :td

Big 10 = most overrated conference in America.

[Slinkyman]

Kansas is the real National Champ, only real 1 loss team left (not including the rainbows)

[Marklar MM]

tOSU had no business being in this game. Thank the media pukes for this one. :td

Big 10 = most overrated conference in America.


:rolleyes

[JamStone]

who the hell is that guy?

Looks like Roger Clemens

[Marklar MM]

They should have a bowl in Ann Arbor, Columbus, or Camp Randall Stadium.

[johngateswhiteley]

They should have a bowl in Ann Arbor or Columbus.

ohio state should not have been in this game, no matter where it was played.

[Marklar MM]

ohio state should not have been in this game, no matter where it was played.

I will not argue. I am just saying it would be nice for a Big 10 team to actually have a home team at a bowl game.

[johngateswhiteley]

I will not argue. I am just saying it would be nice for a Big 10 team to actually have a home team at a bowl game.

i understand that.

[samikeyp]

They should have a bowl in Ann Arbor, Columbus, or Camp Randall Stadium.

You have the Motor City Bowl. :)

[Marklar MM]

You have the Motor City Bowl. :)


You have to have a pretty shitty season to get into that bowl.

[samikeyp]

You have to have a pretty shitty season to get into that bowl.


Oh, you wanted a good bowl in the Ann Arbor area. :)

[Marklar MM]

Oh, you wanted a good bowl in the Ann Arbor area. :)

Hell any decent bowl would be nice. Make one up...they seem good at doing that.

[samikeyp]

True.

[Marklar MM]

OSU can take on the Pac 10. Michigan can take the SEC.

[BeerIsGood!]

Two straight years of absolutely shitty NC games, and three of the last 4. If not for Vince Young and the Texas Longhorns there really wouldn't even be any motivation to watch these shitty games anymore. Vince gave us all hope and Ohio State is taking it away.

[Thunder Dan]

tOSU had no business being in this game. Thank the media pukes for this one. :td

Big 10 = most overrated conference in America.

You are right, we lost a Heisman winner QB our starting running back and top 2 recievers, as well as 3 defensive linemen. 2007 was a rebuilding year, but with that landscape of college football it turned into more. 2008 was the year tOSU fans looked forward to, but now it will be diminished because nobody will give tOSU credibility after this loss. They should be ranked top 3 next year, and will have to beat USC in week 2 to get another shot at the title.


Right now Ohio State is pre-Vince Young Texas: all the talent in the world, but can't win a big game

[DarkReign]

Well, that was pathetic but about what I expected. Big 10 is highly, undeniably, horribly overrated. They play antique football in a league of innovation and it shows every time they play outside their conference.

With that said, OSU has been the class of the conference. 3 national title games with 1 championship. Argue whether they should have been there or not and I would probably agree with you.

As it is, found this interesting...


ACC Commissioner John Swofford and SEC Commissioner Mike Slive said Monday morning at an annual meeting of the Football Writers Association of America that they believe a "plus-one" format would have to be seeded.

The other possibility of the "plus-one" was considered to be playing an extra game after the BCS title game.

Each commissioner also stated that the SEC, ACC, Big East and Big 12 are open to discussing the "plus-one" format. The Big Ten and Pac-10 have been opposed to it.

Swofford, who is the incoming BCS chair, said the nature of the 2007 season and its weekly upheaval has motivated his presidents and athletic directors to reconsider a plus-one model.

"A lot of people look at it and say ... maybe it would be better if more than two teams had the opportunity to play for the national championship," Swofford said.

"There's a comfort level with what we're doing today," Swofford added. "In our conference, there's much more open-mindedness about the plus-one than there was two years ago. There's an interest in it ... and a willingness to discuss it in full."

Slive, the outgoing BCS chair, said one focal point of discussion will be discerning whether the 2007 season and its parity is an anomaly or "the beginning of something bigger."

"It's a little bit like turning a big battleship," Swofford said.

Commissioners from all 11 major college football conferences will meet in Miami in April and the plus-one will be a topic.

"I think we would be remiss if we didn't have that discussion in full and play it out and see what the ramifications of it are in great detail," Swofford said. "To see if there are unintended consequences there. What are the pluses, what are the minuses? Really drill into it so we can have the right kind of information.

"Evaluate it in a thorough way and ultimately make a decision. You don't know unless you have that discussion."

Swofford acknowledged a meeting of No. 1 vs. No. 4 and No. 2 vs. No. 3 in a Final Four of football could still leave out a team with a participation argument.

Slive acknowledged "logistics" and multiple television agreements will take efforts to work through for the possible format to become a reality.

The BCS is in the second of a four-year, $320 million contract with Fox that runs through the 2009 season and 2010 bowls. The BCS will begin negotiating with Fox on another deal in the fall. Fox has exclusive negotiating rights with the BCS.

No changes are expected before the 2010 season.

Joe Schad covers college football for ESPN. Ivan Maisel is a senior writer for ESPN.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3185000

Hopefully, it passes and its at least a start to a playoff. We wouldnt have these ridiculous title games even with only a 4 team playoff. The Kansas/Georgia/WV fans would have no complaints I am sure.

[DarkReign]

ROFL

There is a poll associated with that article asking "Would you be in favor of a plus-one playoff format for college football?"

90.9% said "Yes"

I'd like to know who let grandpa on the computer long enough to vote "No".

[lebomb]

Oh well, I was wrong.....congratulations to LSU.

[Thunder Dan]

Well, that was pathetic but about what I expected. Big 10 is highly, undeniably, horribly overrated.

I think in order to to 'overrated' you have to have people claiming your are at the top, or the best; I'm a OSU fan, and I don't even consider the Big Ten to be that good. I mean Ohio State plays like 4 meaningful games a year. It's not their fault the rest of the Big 10 sucks ass. Michigan always underachieves, Penn State has a coach that they don't want anymore and are just waiting for him to die or retire then they will be back to a decent football school, Wisconsin is alright- not great, but not bad, Illinios is making strides, but the rest of the conference sucks. Ohio State can't do anything about Indiana, Northwestern, Michigan State, Iowa, or whoever else. They can just play their schedule. I just don't think calling the Big 10 overrated is the correct term, it is weak.

[johngateswhiteley]

They should be ranked top 3 next year, and will have to beat USC in week 2 to get another shot at the title.

SC is going to destroy ohio state later this year.

[MajorMike]

I just don't think calling the Big 10 overrated is the correct term, it is weak.

I think of the WAC or CUSA as weak. The B10/1 ain't bad, they just aren't as good as the B12/SEC/P10. They are better or at the VERY least par with BE/ACC.

[samikeyp]

They should have a bowl in Ann Arbor, Columbus, or Camp Randall Stadium.

True.

A Pac-10 team can't beat a Big 10 team in Ann Arbor.

Sincerly,
Oregon.

:)

[johngateswhiteley]

True.

A Pac-10 team can't beat a Big 10 team in Ann Arbor.

Sincerly,
Oregon.

:)

but that game was really close...oh, wait.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=272510130

[Thunder Dan]

SC is going to destroy ohio state later this year.

unless Ohio State pulls a Stanford.


I think of the WAC or CUSA as weak. The B10/1 ain't bad, they just aren't as good as the B12/SEC/P10. They are better or at the VERY least par with BE/ACC.

the Big Ten is on par with the Big 12 in most years

[johngateswhiteley]

unless Ohio State pulls a Stanford.

SC has a tendency not to show up in big games....oh wait, thats never happened with Carroll as coach.

SC 38
osu 14

...ironically, stanford would have a better chance to win that game than osu.

[Thunder Dan]

SC has a tendency not to show up in big games....oh wait, thats never happened with Carroll as coach.

SC 38
osu 14

...ironically, stanford would have a better chance to win that game than osu.

gotta love a Spurs/USC fan...let me guess go Patroits and Red Sox/Yankees too right?

[romad_20]

I think of the WAC or CUSA as weak. The B10/1 ain't bad, they just aren't as good as the B12/SEC/P10. They are better or at the VERY least par with BE/ACC.

and the Pac-10/Big 12 aren't in the same class with the SEC right now, top to bottom, no matter how much you want it.

[NoMoneyDown]

I think of the WAC or CUSA as weak. The B10/1 ain't bad, they just aren't as good as the B12/SEC/P10. They are better or at the VERY least par with BE/ACC.

The problem with the Big East is they only have eight teams, compared to the other major conferences. Therefore, a team having a bad year in the conference gets a lot more exposure. Additionally, a good team like WVU tends to be glossed over due to the perceived weakness of the entire conference. Had Petrino not bailed on Louisville, I'm sure Brohm and Co. would have been a lot better, thereby boosting the conference overall. USF had early success (wins over WVU and Auburn), but faltered in the second half of the season. Cincy was good, Rutgers was decent, and UConn had a good season (albeit, even I think they got lucky). So, all-in-all the Big East did very good, but due to having 3-4 less teams than the other big conferences, they fall behind in the exposure department.

What I think the BE needs is another 1-3 teams to make it stand out more. Something like moving Penn St. over from the Big 10 and 1-2 other decent programs - sure-fire winners would be nice, but even some decent teams would help. No VTech or Miami, though.

[NoMoneyDown]

BTW, here's an interesting guage ... Take the combined records of the top 50% of the teams in each of the major conferences, and compare them ... This is what you'll find:

1. Big-12 (82%)
2. BE (75%)
3. SEC (74%)
4. ACC (70%)
5. Pac-10 (69%)
6. Big-10 (68%)*

(*) Big-10 has 11 teams, so only used top-5 in conference.

[MajorMike]

and the Pac-10/Big 12 aren't in the same class with the SEC right now, top to bottom, no matter how much you want it.
There is no division in football harder than the B12 South.


the Big Ten is on par with the Big 12 in most years

I just don't think calling the Big 10 overrated is the correct term, it is weak.
So according to your earlier statement, the B12 is weak, as well?

[JamStone]

With the way the Big Ten has been destroyed in the media the last couple years, I don't think it's appropriate to call them overrated. They're just not good anymore. It's a weak BCS conference. Even most reasonable Big Ten fans will agree. Only Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State get really high national talent year in and year out. And, only Ohio State has been able to be a real contender nationally since the BCS system has been in place.

Michigan definitely has under-achieved since they won the split title in 1997-98. And, a lot of that has to do with Lloyd Carr's stubbornness to follow in the style and approach of Bo to worry only about the Big Ten schedule, not the out of conference games at the beginning of the year or the bowl games. They never mattered as much as the Big Ten and Ohio State. And, along with that, Michigan never changed with the times until Lloyd's very last game against Florida. Same run it up the gut offensive play calls. Same prevent type defenses. Whoever used the word "antique" was right on the money. Michigan's football program has never modernized with the times. The rest of college football has been using i-phones for years and Lloyd Carr and Michigan still were using Zach Morris' big ass 5 pound portable phone from Saved by the Bell.

The Big Ten has definitely become one of the weaker BCS conferences. As a Michigan fan, I hope Michigan can catch up with the rest of college football in the next few years. Might take some time for it to equate to ultimate success, but hopefully that will help not only Michigan but the Big Ten improve their standing among the BCS conferences.

[NoMoneyDown]

As a Michigan fan, I hope Michigan can catch up with the rest of college football in the next few years. Might take some time for it to equate to ultimate success, but hopefully that will help not only Michigan but the Big Ten improve their standing among the BCS conferences.

Just hope Fraud-riguez gets along with the administration there or he'll start whining and leave your team hanging. Also, keep in mind that he's a damn good recruiter, but a suspect coach. He relies too much on the athleticism of his personnel to win a game. Just see the USF and Pitt games this year. White goes out and he puts in the backup QB but does no other adjustment. Result? They lose.

[Marklar MM]

True.

A Pac-10 team can't beat a Big 10 team in Ann Arbor.

Sincerly,
Oregon.

:)

I can't complain. Michigan plays like shit against Pac-10 teams. Although they kick the shit out of the SEC.

[Marklar MM]

Just hope Fraud-riguez gets along with the administration there or he'll start whining and leave your team hanging. Also, keep in mind that he's a damn good recruiter, but a suspect coach. He relies too much on the athleticism of his personnel to win a game. Just see the USF and Pitt games this year. White goes out and he puts in the backup QB but does no other adjustment. Result? They lose.


At Michigan, if Rodriguez asks for something, he will get it. He will get top notch talent every year.

[romad_20]

There is no division in football harder than the B12 South.





Yes there is, it's called the SEC east or SEC West depending the year. This year the east was better. 3 teams from the east have a legitamate chance at the national title next year. Two of those teams will be in the top 5 preseason with Tenn. probably being in the top 10. I would also bet that the SEC east puts more players in the NFL than the B12 south, hell even our worst team, Vandy, put a 1st round QB in the NFL, when has Baylor done that?

Here's the facts: the SEC always have great recruiting classes, they put the most players in the NFL, year in and out, are now 4-0 in BCS championships and have 24 National football champions. UGA, Tenn, UF, Alabama, Ole Miss, LSU and Kentucky have all won championships in football.

The Big 12 has 18 National championships in football. OU, Neb and UT have 16 of those. Like I said before you've got 2 great teams right now with Neb falling on hard times and the numbers back that up.

[JamStone]

Just hope Fraud-riguez gets along with the administration there or he'll start whining and leave your team hanging. Also, keep in mind that he's a damn good recruiter, but a suspect coach. He relies too much on the athleticism of his personnel to win a game. Just see the USF and Pitt games this year. White goes out and he puts in the backup QB but does no other adjustment. Result? They lose.


You have so much venom for the guy. Let it go already. He's not coming back.

And, thanks for the insight about losing when West Virginia lost Pat White against Pitt. USC lost to Standford without Jon David Booty. Look at Oregon after Denis Dixon was lost for the season. Let's be real, once you lose your star starting quarterback, even if you make adjustments, it's still pretty tough to win even against teams you should beat.

[MajorMike]

Yes there is, it's called the SEC east or SEC West depending the year.

Every year. Not one or the other; pick. My statement was an absolute. There is no division in football tougher than the B12 South.

[romad_20]

Every year. Not one or the other; pick. My statement was an absolute. There is no division in football tougher than the B12 South.

Ok. The SEC east and West are tougher than the Big 12 South EVERY YEAR, ABSOLUTELY. Don't get worked up cause a UGA team that hadn't even come together yet pasted your team that was suppose to be in the mix for the B12 south this year.

[JamStone]

Every year. Not one or the other; pick. My statement was an absolute. There is no division in football tougher than the B12 South.

Sorry but I think SEC East is tougher than the B12 South year in and year out, every year. The B12 is Texas and Oklahoma. And, then sometimes OSU will be decent, maybe TA&M is ok. It's still just Texas and Oklahoma.

At least with the SEC East, they have three teams always in the mix in Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee. And, their secondary teams are better with South Carolina and Kentucky.

The SEC West might be tougher on a given year, but they don't have the consistency of the SEC East, and they're starting to be ruled by one school, LSU. Both Auburn and Alabama have not been able to be consistently great like LSU has.

[romad_20]

You have so much venom for the guy. Let it go already. He's not coming back.

And, thanks for the insight about losing when West Virginia lost Pat White against Pitt. USC lost to Standford without Jon David Booty. Look at Oregon after Denis Dixon was lost for the season. Let's be real, once you lose your star starting quarterback, even if you make adjustments, it's still pretty tough to win even against teams you should beat.

LSU lost their starting QB and still won, in a championship game. :smokin

[romad_20]

Every year. Not one or the other; pick. My statement was an absolute. There is no division in football tougher than the B12 South.

Listen, I've grown to love Big 12 football actually since living here, but the statements you're making are kind of out there, that's why my comments are getting more homerish toward the SEC. The big 12 south is a great division but it doesn't have the perennial powerhouses that the SEC east has. Hell, I think UT and OU would have a great deal of success in the SEC if they were to play there but the rest of the league at this point just couldn't hang.

[JamStone]

LSU lost their starting QB and still won, in a championship game.

LSU's back-up QB actually had a lot of experience throughout the season because Miles used him periodically.

[MajorMike]

Listen, I've grown to love Big 12 football actually since living here, but the statements you're making are kind of out there, that's why my comments are getting more homerish toward the SEC. The big 12 south is a great division but it doesn't have the perennial powerhouses that the SEC east has. Hell, I think UT and OU would have a great deal of success in the SEC if they were to play there but the rest of the league at this point just couldn't hang.

Since 2000, (behind Boise) in winning %
2 UT
3 uo
27 ttek
52 atm
61 OSU
106 Baylor

SEC West
7 LSU
12 Auburn
43 arKy
54 Bama
60 Ole Miss
107 Miss St

SEC East
9 UGA
14 Fla
17 Tenn
45 USC
99 UK
112 Vandy

[romad_20]

LSU's back-up QB actually had a lot of experience throughout the season because Miles used him periodically.

Yeah, I know, I'm just stirring up shit. Man, I bet Texas fans are wishing they had him back. I think he's going to be a game breaker next year. Not quite as good, but similar to the VY style of play.

[JamStone]

Since 2000, (behind Boise) in winning %
2 UT
3 uo
27 ttek
52 atm
61 OSU
106 Baylor

SEC West
7 LSU
12 Auburn
43 arKy
54 Bama
60 Ole Miss
107 Miss St

SEC East
9 UGA
14 Fla
17 Tenn
45 USC
99 UK
112 Vandy


If you think about it, the toughest conference wouldn't yield TWO of the top top 3 highest winning percentages over such a period of time. Again, it shows that the B12 South is pretty much run by Texas and Oklahoma and they beat up on everyone else. Having two perennial top feeders doesn't prove that division is the toughest.

[romad_20]

Since 2000, (behind Boise) in winning %
2 UT
3 uo
27 ttek
52 atm
61 OSU
106 Baylor

SEC West
7 LSU
12 Auburn
43 arKy
54 Bama
60 Ole Miss
107 Miss St

SEC East
9 UGA
14 Fla
17 Tenn
45 USC
99 UK
112 Vandy

Doesn't that just prove the East is stronger? If you've got 3 good teams they all can't win all the time but they're all in the top 17.

[MajorMike]

With 2 100 teams? That's not tough.

[JamStone]

With 2 100 teams? That's not tough.

No one said the B12 South wasn't tough. You were arguing it was the toughest in the country. SEC East is still tougher.

[Holmes_Fans]

yay

[j-6]

Sorry but I think SEC East is tougher than the B12 South year in and year out, every year. The B12 is Texas and Oklahoma. And, then sometimes OSU will be decent, maybe TA&M is ok. It's still just Texas and Oklahoma.

At least with the SEC East, they have three teams always in the mix in Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee. And, their secondary teams are better with South Carolina and Kentucky.

The SEC West might be tougher on a given year, but they don't have the consistency of the SEC East, and they're starting to be ruled by one school, LSU. Both Auburn and Alabama have not been able to be consistently great like LSU has.

OU - UF (SEC)
UT - UGA (push, due to title)
A&M - Tenn (SEC)
Okie St - UK (B12)
Tech - USC (B12)
Baylor - Vandy (SEC)

I see your point.

[johngateswhiteley]

OU - UF (SEC)
UT - UGA (push, due to title)
A&M - Tenn (SEC)
Okie St - UK (B12)
Tech - USC (B12)
Baylor - Vandy (SEC)

I see your point.

uh, no.

OU-UF (push)
t.u.-UGA (SEC)
A&M-Tenn (SEC)
osu-UK (SEC)
tekk-USC (B12)
Baylor-Vandy (SEC)

...UGA would work t.u.

[MajorMike]

Recent history says ttek is the 3rd best team in the B12. They are the only B12 team to be.500 or better the last 14-15 years in a row. Even Tennessee and UGA have had at least one losing season during that time.

UK might have whooped OSU this year, but to put UK ahead of OSU is either ignornant or uninformed. OSU has 60 wins the past 10 years while UK has 46. Last 20 is 108 - 88. Last 30 is 168 - 138. etc

And I'm not going to defend uo, but no way in hell Fla is a better program than them. Ya'll are looking at just one year when you compare head-to-head. We are talking all the time.

[Thunder Dan]

Recent history says ttek is the 3rd best team in the B12. They are the only B12 team to be.500 or better the last 14-15 years in a row. Even Tennessee and UGA have had at least one losing season during that time.

UK might have whooped OSU this year, but to put UK ahead of OSU is either ignornant or uninformed. OSU has 60 wins the past 10 years while UK has 46. Last 20 is 108 - 88. Last 30 is 168 - 138. etc

And I'm not going to defend uo, but no way in hell Fla is a better program than them. Ya'll are looking at just one year when you compare head-to-head. We are talking all the time.

you are a true fan when you are arguing your way from 6th to 5th place in your conference, normally at that point nobody gives a shit

[romad_20]

Recent history says ttek is the 3rd best team in the B12. They are the only B12 team to be.500 or better the last 14-15 years in a row. Even Tennessee and UGA have had at least one losing season during that time.

UK might have whooped OSU this year, but to put UK ahead of OSU is either ignornant or uninformed. OSU has 60 wins the past 10 years while UK has 46. Last 20 is 108 - 88. Last 30 is 168 - 138. etc

And I'm not going to defend uo, but no way in hell Fla is a better program than them. Ya'll are looking at just one year when you compare head-to-head. We are talking all the time.

Admit you are wrong and move on.

[MajorMike]

you are a true fan when you are arguing your way from 6th to 5th place in your conference, normally at that point nobody gives a shit


Yeah, thanks for jumping in with a worthless after I defended your team when they got completely embarrased for the 2nd year in a row. You are right, Ohio loses to big teams because the conf they play in is weak and they don't know what real competition is. And you obviously can't even read the point because due to your quote you way missed it.

[MajorMike]

Admit you are wrong and move on.

Facts don't lie; don't be swole because they don't support your arguement.

[Thunder Dan]

Yeah, thanks for jumping in with a worthless after I defended your team when they got completely embarrased for the 2nd year in a row. You are right, Ohio loses to big teams because the conf they play in is weak and they don't know what real competition is. And you obviously can't even read the point because due to your quote you way missed it.

how many BCS games has Oklahoma State played in? yeah shut the fuck up, Ohio State is 10x the school Okie State is.

Plus, this was a rebuilding year for Ohio State. Oklahoma State could bring in their best team and not even sniff a BCS Game

[MajorMike]

how many BCS games has Oklahoma State played in? yeah shut the fuck up, Ohio State is 10x the school Okie State is.

Plus, this was a rebuilding year for Ohio State. Oklahoma State could bring in their best team and not even sniff a BCS Game

Lol; get out much? Hey, isn't Dan Majerle gay?

[Thunder Dan]

Lol; get out much? Hey, isn't Dan Majerle gay?

yeah good comeback

[romad_20]

Facts don't lie; don't be swole because they don't support your arguement.


:lol Your facts haven't supported anything but my arguements. You posts stats about the big 12 and then I post stats showing the SEC is better and you don't refute it, you just state the same stuff over and over. Big 12 south is not as good as the SEC East and anyone who knows college football wouldn't state otherwise but you. It's not like I'm saying the Big 12 south is trash and the SEC east is unbeatable, they're a good division just not the toughest in college football. Anyway this arguement will never be resolved until we get a playoff and teams actually get to play each other.

And just remember what that SEC east team did to your Big 12 school at the beginning of the year. I think the score was something like 35-14 and that was before they were even playing close to the level they were at the end of the year.