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Solid D
12-31-2004, 11:32 AM
know anyone caught in this disaster? Very sad.

(This can be moved to The Club later...)

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=374188

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina Dec 31, 2004 — A flare lit during a rock concert ignited the foam ceiling of a Buenos Aires nightclub packed with teenagers, starting an inferno that killed 175 people, many of them teens, and injured more than 600, officials and witnesses said Friday.

An emergency exit in the building was believed to have been locked to prevent people from coming in without paying leaving the club's main entrance as the only way in or out, said Buenos Aires Mayor Anibal Ibarra.

Grieving parents crowded the city's morgues to identify the dead after the blaze swept through the Republica de la Cromagnon disco in the Argentine capital late Thursday, setting off a stampede for the exits, witnesses said.

Argentine media reported as many 1,500 people were believed to have been in the disco, whose name means Cromagnon Republic. Fans attending rock concerts in Argentina frequently light flares and fireworks.

"Someone from the crowd tossed a flare and there were immediately flames," said Fabian Zamudeo, a 22-year-old in the crowd to see the popular Argentine rock band Los Callejeros.

"Parts of the roof started falling down in flames and people started running, knocking over the speakers and light stands. People were choking on smoke and I tried to push as many people out as I could."

Another survivor, who identified himself only as Juan, said, "You couldn't see anything, the air was thick with smoke."

Julia Salinas, an official with Buenos Aires emergency services department, said at least 175 people were killed and 619 were injured.

Many of the dead were believed to have suffered from smoke inhalation, said Mariano Tili, a Buenos Aires city official helping in the rescue effort.

Ibarra confirmed the cause of the blaze Friday, calling the lighting of a flare in a closed environment "an irresponsible act."

Minutes after the fire broke out, shirtless concertgoers charged out of the building, many carrying people on their shoulders.

"People were pushing and jumping over each other trying to get out," another concertgoer, Jose Maria Godoy, said. "It was like a human wave. As people fell down running for the door, others just simply ran over them or pushed them down."

In a 2003 nightclub fire in West Warwick, R.I., that killed 100 people, authorities said the blaze began when sparks from a band's pyrotechnics ignited highly flammable foam used in the club as soundproofing.

Overnight, relatives gathered outside Buenos Aires hospitals, seeking information about missing loved ones. Hospital officials shouted out the names of the injured as large crowds swarmed hospital entrances.

Hundreds of bystanders and relatives stood outside the nightclub as rescue workers carried the wounded away on stretchers. Others could be seen treating the injured on the street in front of the club.

As firefighters battled the flames, some kids many dazed and covered in soot milled outside, screaming out the names of friends, hoping to find them.

Ambulances packed with six or seven people ferried the injured to hospitals and officers converted police vans into makeshift ambulances as the number of injured and dead rose.

After the blaze was brought under control Friday morning, rescue workers turned a nearby parking lot into a temporary morgue, lining up dozens of bodies whose faces were covered by T-shirts.

Streets outside the nightclub in downtown Buenos Aires were lined with stray pairs of tennis shoes and strewn with blackened clothes remains of a chaotic scene that saw hordes of people barreling their way out of the building.

"This is a true disaster … particularly with so many young people and kids inside," Interior Minister Anibal Fernandez said.

The fire was the worst in South America since a blaze swept a Paraguayan supermarket in August, killing 434 people in an Asuncion suburb. Authorities later said the doors were ordered shut by the store's owners to prevent looting, trapping people inside.

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ALVAREZ6
12-31-2004, 12:38 PM
That is sad.

But at least it isn't as bad as the Tsunami that killed over 120,000 so far.

Marhq
12-31-2004, 01:40 PM
That is so weak Alvarez6. How can you find comfort in the fact that 'only' 180 had died? Why don't you say that to those who have lost a loved one, maybe they'll feel beter :rolleyes

To answer to Solid D question, no I didn't know anybody in that fire. I can only imagine the pain those poor families are going through right now.

Saludos.

danyel
12-31-2004, 02:10 PM
I didnt know anyone caught in the fire. Most people died of asfixtiation (sp?) not the fire itself.

People that lost someone close doesnt really care whether the deaths were 120,000, 175 or just 1, its really sad considering most of the deaths were youngsters in their 20's.

Unlike with the tsunami tragedy, although alert meassures could have saved lots of lives, there was no real reason for this tragedy except irresponsability of having inflamatory things in a place like that, having the exit doors locked, allowing childs in the place and the owners greed to allow 4000 or 5000 in a place that was fit for 1500.

It could have been avoided which makes it even sadder...

Kori Ellis
12-31-2004, 02:12 PM
and the owners greed to allow 4000 or 5000 in a place that was fit for 1500.

I was going to ask about that. On the news, they said 5000 people were in the club at the time of the fire. I couldn't imagine the night club really was built to hold that many.

It's very sad.

God Bless their souls.

ALVAREZ6
12-31-2004, 02:18 PM
That is so weak Alvarez6. How can you find comfort in the fact that 'only' 180 had died? Why don't you say that to those who have lost a loved one, maybe they'll feel beter .

I don't find comfort.

I was just saying that a lot of people also died in SE Asia. Im just saying it isn't as bad, i never said i was comforted.

deepsouth
12-31-2004, 05:04 PM
My kid (15 yr) went to the previous concert of the same band two weeks ago, and while he likes this band very much he didnt went to this concert because a birthday party took precedence.
This is not the first disaster of this kind here.
The previous one, in the Kheyvis disco, took the lives of 17 youngsters in 1993.
While going to dance is becoming the second entertainment here, after soccer games, in number of people involved, the big majority of the discos break the fire protection regulations.
Sad to say this happens everywhere here, not only in the discos; and this disregard of the risks of fire has something to do with cultural issues.

I do remember that something like that (a disco fire with many people dead) happened in the US in the 50's in a disco named "Coconout Grove" or something like that and that sparked a change on fire protection regulations there.
Hopefully a similar change will happen here.