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SpursDynasty
01-04-2008, 10:00 PM
Good going Dwight.

Hedo Turkoglu outrebounded Dwight Howard tonight. I guess Hedo Turkoglu is a beast!

Armando
01-04-2008, 10:10 PM
I can't figure out why the Magic play better on the road then at home.

Kriz-Maxima
01-04-2008, 10:13 PM
They got robbed, that last shot was good.

Matchman
01-04-2008, 10:47 PM
How could the Magic got robbed when three refs reviewed it on instant replay, frame by frame?

Kriz-Maxima
01-04-2008, 10:48 PM
Did you see the vid?

Mr.Bottomtooth
01-04-2008, 10:53 PM
Good going Dwight.

Hedo Turkoglu outrebounded Dwight Howard tonight. I guess Hedo Turkoglu is a beast!

I suppose Hedo was just trying to rebound some rebounds.

Kriz-Maxima
01-04-2008, 10:53 PM
I suppose Hedo was just trying to rebound some rebounds.


:lol

Armando
01-04-2008, 10:54 PM
Did you see the vid?


You are right. I saw the video the ball was clearly out of his hands before the buzzer. How can 3 refs missed that? :rolleyes

Amuseddaysleeper
01-04-2008, 11:29 PM
yeah, I hope the league does something about tonight, because it was so painfully obvious that the final shot was good, I would've thought that another crooked ref was lurking the building.

Armando
01-04-2008, 11:31 PM
yeah, I hope the league does something about tonight, because it was so painfully obvious that the final shot was good, I would've thought that another crooked ref was lurking the building.


They will likely do nothing. The Magic got screwed at home.

Mr.Bottomtooth
01-04-2008, 11:37 PM
Foyle got it off in time. They got robbed.

Hemotivo
01-04-2008, 11:40 PM
mmmm

i saw the vid

good win

m33p0
01-05-2008, 01:00 AM
Good going Dwight.

Hedo Turkoglu outrebounded Dwight Howard tonight. I guess Hedo Turkoglu is a beast!
what of their fifteen-million-dollar man?

DOMINATOR
01-05-2008, 01:07 AM
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3707/atthebuzzeryo3.jpg

look how incredibly horrible this call was though... http://media.putfile.com/Yao-gets-another-Bogus-call--Refs-Racist-plain-and-simple

Armando
01-05-2008, 01:08 AM
They won the game when the refs incorrectly waived Foyle's bucket. Why are you complaining?

m33p0
01-05-2008, 01:10 AM
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3707/atthebuzzeryo3.jpg

look how incredibly horrible this call was though... http://media.putfile.com/Yao-gets-another-Bogus-call--Refs-Racist-plain-and-simple
a good call by the refs.

Armando
01-05-2008, 01:11 AM
a good call by the refs.


Nice try but on the video the ball is clearly out of his hands.

DOMINATOR
01-05-2008, 01:12 AM
They won the game when the refs incorrectly waived Foyle's bucket. Why are you complaining?
do you see the picture?
im not complaining all i did was post the video to a bad call.

m33p0
01-05-2008, 01:14 AM
Nice try but on the video the ball is clearly out of his hands.i'm using the picture posted. its a bit grainy but it would appear that the ball was still touching his fingertips.

Pistons < Spurs
01-05-2008, 01:17 AM
I also think the refs got it right.

m33p0
01-05-2008, 01:18 AM
look how incredibly horrible this call was though... http://media.putfile.com/Yao-gets-a...lain-and-simple

yao got called for that? looks to me like a legal pick.

m33p0
01-05-2008, 01:21 AM
a better view would have been from the sideline, though.

Budkin
01-05-2008, 01:35 AM
All you have to do on a disputed shot is run off the court apparently... ala the Lakers in 2004.

Armando
01-05-2008, 01:39 AM
All you have to do on a disputed shot is run off the court apparently... ala the Lakers in 2004.


Wasn't a rule put in after that? Teams are not allowed to leave the court until the officials check the replay on a buzzer beater.

Roxsfan
01-05-2008, 01:57 AM
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3707/atthebuzzeryo3.jpg[/QUOTE]

They got robbed, that last shot was good.

You are right. I saw the video the ball was clearly out of his hands before the buzzer. How can 3 refs missed that? :rolleyes

yeah, I hope the league does something about tonight, because it was so painfully obvious that the final shot was good, I would've thought that another crooked ref was lurking the building.

Foyle got it off in time. They got robbed.



Very clear picture here for all you doubters. OWNED! The ball was still touching Foyle's finger when the red light was on. TIME EXPIRED! When time is expired, time is expired. Which means, GAME OVER! Good call. End of story. Guess what, 3 refs agreed :rolleyes:

Plus, Yao posted 26 pts and 10 boards in 31 minutes and fouled Dwight Coward out of the game with 51 seconds left.......so they would have won it in overtime anyway.




Dwight Howard had 16 points and eight rebounds before Yao knocked him out of the game with 51 seconds left. It was just the third time all season Howard, the NBA's leading rebounder with 15 a game, failed to get double-digit boards.

He also was the third center in two days who fouled out trying to defend Yao. The Boston Celtics lost two in a 97-93 win Wednesday.

Horry For 3!
01-05-2008, 01:59 AM
They got robbed, that last shot was good.
His fingertip was still on the ball when the clock went off. I watched it about 15 times.

Armando
01-05-2008, 01:59 AM
Very clear picture here for all you doubters. OWNED! The ball was still touching Foyle's finger when the red light was on. TIME EXPIRED! When time is expired, time is expired. Which means, GAME OVER! Good call. End of story. Guess what, 3 refs agreed :rolleyes:

Plus, Yao posted 26 pts and 10 boards in 31 minutes and fouled Dwight Coward out of the game with 51 seconds left.......so they would have won it in overtime anyway.


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3707/atthebuzzeryo3.jpg




That picture is too fuzzy to see anything. The video shows the ball out of his hands before the buzzer. I know the Magic have already contacted the league about it.

Roxsfan
01-05-2008, 02:06 AM
I don't care if they contacted Santa Clause, his finger tips were still on the ball. You act as if a call was made incorrectly on the court and the game was called in the roxs favor. You had 3 refs carefully review that footage frame by frame showing exactly what that picture showed, except with much more clarity. I DVR'd that and watched that over and over frame by frame and his fingertips were on the ball. Simple.

So, go ahead Magic, contact the tooth fairy for all I give a flying rats filth flaring ass.

btw, do you see any light between his dark fingers and the ball, look closely and be objective, not subjective. :rolleyes

Armando
01-05-2008, 02:09 AM
I don't care if they contacted Santa Clause, his finger tips were still on the ball. You act as if a call was made incorrectly on the court and the game was called in the roxs favor. You had 3 refs carefully review that footage frame by frame showing exactly what that picture showed, except with much more clarity. I DVR'd that and watched that over and over frame by frame and his fingertips were on the ball. Simple.

So, go ahead Magic, contact the tooth fairy for all I give a flying rats filth flaring ass.

btw, do you see any light between his dark fingers and the ball, look closely and be objective, not subjective. :rolleyes


I saw the video on ESPN and the refs blew big time.

DOMINATOR
01-05-2008, 02:15 AM
I saw the video on ESPN and the refs blew big time.
lol ok troll. believe the 3 inch video you have... i'll go with my 52" tv.

Roxsfan
01-05-2008, 02:15 AM
I saw the video on ESPN and the refs blew big time.

this would be a perfect girl friend for you :toast

http://www.80stees.com/images/products/Little_Miss_Stubborn-T.jpg



whatever dude, are you sure you weren't a juror on this case :rolleyes
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/freed-prisoner-reflects-on-his-ordeal/20080103161909990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

http://www.infosecurity.ee/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/stubborn-mule.gif

Armando
01-05-2008, 02:16 AM
Rockets 96, Magic 94
Recap Box Score Play-By-Play Shot Chart Photos Conversation 1 2 3 4 T
HOU (16-17) 32 19 25 20 96
ORL (22-13) 25 24 23 22 94
Final7:00 PM ET, January 4, 2008
Amway Arena
Orlando, FL
Alston's layup, controversial call help Rockets hold off Magic
Video Highlights














· Complete Schedule: Houston | Orlando
ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- Yao Ming turned and emphatically slapped his arm. He had just drawn Dwight Howard's sixth foul, seemingly sinking the Orlando Magic and winning the battle between probable NBA All-Star starting centers Friday night.


That play didn't beat the Magic, but a last-second call might have.

.
Adonal Foyle appeared to tip in Rashard Lewis' driving layup miss with a fraction of a second left to tie it and force overtime. But officials shocked the crowd, which had watched the replay several times, by returning to wave off the bucket. No record of an official call was made, and the officiating crew declined comment
"Exciting finish," Yao said, in terrific understatement.

"When they said it was no good, we were just trying to hurry up and take a shower, put our clothes on before they would tell us to come back onto the court," said Rockets guard Rafer Alston, who scored the winning layup.

Within 15 minutes of the finish, Magic coach Stan Van Gundy had already put in calls to league officials.

"I'm not going to summon a lot of anger," Van Gundy said. "This is a tough night in the NBA. It's the way it goes sometimes."

Alston had 20 points and eight assists and Bonzi Wells added 12 points and 12 rebounds for the Rockets.

Jameer Nelson, recently playing behind Carlos Arroyo, had another good night with 20 points, while Lewis scored 16 points and Hedo Turkoglu had 13 points and 11 rebounds.

Howard had 16 points and eight rebounds before Yao knocked him out of the game with 51 seconds left. It was just the third time all season Howard, the NBA's leading rebounder with 15 a game, failed to get double-digit boards.

He was also the third center in two days who fouled out trying to defend Yao. The Boston Celtics lost two in a 97-93 win Wednesday.

"Howard has become a real force when you put up the numbers he's put up this year," Rockets coach Rick Adelman said. "Unfortunately, they both got in foul trouble tonight, but Yao's just a great player. Night in and night out he does it for us."

Yao and Howard both made spectacular plays.

Nelson found Howard over Yao for an alley-oop in the second quarter; Howard's dunk less than a minute later helped energize the crowd. The Magic looked lifeless early and have struggled at home, dropping to 7-8 at Amway Arena with the loss.

"The thing is that it's frustrating that we're giving teams an opportunity to have calls being decided in the last minute," Foyle said. "I didn't see the replay, but I thought it was good because as I tapped it and I was coming down, I saw the light through the basket and I thought I had a good chance of getting it in."

Though Yao easily won the head-to-head matchup, he admired Howard's game.

"I have to say, he works really, really hard," Yao said. "I didn't see his workouts, but I can feel it. He improved so much from last year, from my standpoint. I need to catch up, you know?"

The Magic hung around until the end and managed to tie it on Lewis' 3-pointer with 19 seconds left.

After Alston's bucket, Orlando had 4 seconds to inbound the ball to win or tie. Lewis threw up a floater that bounced off the backboard and rim, and then Foyle rose up to tap it in.

Tracy McGrady watched in a suit from the bench, out his fifth straight game with left knee problems. The Rockets expect him to miss up to another 1½ weeks and hadn't done well without him but didn't need him Friday.

Orlando was outrebounded 44-36, helping account for 16 Houston second-chance points to the Magic's five. Orlando has beat only one team over .500 at home this season, though it was the powerhouse Celtics.

Game notes
Tiger Woods, who has a home in the area, made his second straight appearance at a Magic game, a rarity. Woods is sitting out the PGA Tour opener this weekend in Hawaii. ... Magic guard Keith Bogans left in the fourth quarter with an apparent ankle injury. Friday was the first game all season he hadn't started, but it was a coach's decision, not because of an injury. ... The Rockets had lost two in a row.










Adonal Foyle appeared to tip in Rashard Lewis' driving layup miss with a fraction of a second left to tie it and force overtime. But officials shocked the crowd, which had watched the replay several times, by returning to wave off the bucket. No record of an official call was made, and the officiating crew declined comment




This is troublesome that no official record was made of the ruling.

Armando
01-05-2008, 02:17 AM
lol ok troll. believe the 3 inch video you have... i'll go with my 52" tv.



:dramaquee

Roxsfan
01-05-2008, 02:18 AM
Rockets 96, Magic 94
Recap Box Score Play-By-Play Shot Chart Photos Conversation 1 2 3 4 T
HOU (16-17) 32 19 25 20 96
ORL (22-13) 25 24 23 22 94
Final7:00 PM ET, January 4, 2008
Amway Arena
Orlando, FL
Alston's layup, controversial call help Rockets hold off Magic
Video Highlights














· Complete Schedule: Houston | Orlando
ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- Yao Ming turned and emphatically slapped his arm. He had just drawn Dwight Howard's sixth foul, seemingly sinking the Orlando Magic and winning the battle between probable NBA All-Star starting centers Friday night.


That play didn't beat the Magic, but a last-second call might have.

.
Adonal Foyle appeared to tip in Rashard Lewis' driving layup miss with a fraction of a second left to tie it and force overtime. But officials shocked the crowd, which had watched the replay several times, by returning to wave off the bucket. No record of an official call was made, and the officiating crew declined comment
"Exciting finish," Yao said, in terrific understatement.

"When they said it was no good, we were just trying to hurry up and take a shower, put our clothes on before they would tell us to come back onto the court," said Rockets guard Rafer Alston, who scored the winning layup.

Within 15 minutes of the finish, Magic coach Stan Van Gundy had already put in calls to league officials.

"I'm not going to summon a lot of anger," Van Gundy said. "This is a tough night in the NBA. It's the way it goes sometimes."

Alston had 20 points and eight assists and Bonzi Wells added 12 points and 12 rebounds for the Rockets.

Jameer Nelson, recently playing behind Carlos Arroyo, had another good night with 20 points, while Lewis scored 16 points and Hedo Turkoglu had 13 points and 11 rebounds.

Howard had 16 points and eight rebounds before Yao knocked him out of the game with 51 seconds left. It was just the third time all season Howard, the NBA's leading rebounder with 15 a game, failed to get double-digit boards.

He was also the third center in two days who fouled out trying to defend Yao. The Boston Celtics lost two in a 97-93 win Wednesday.

"Howard has become a real force when you put up the numbers he's put up this year," Rockets coach Rick Adelman said. "Unfortunately, they both got in foul trouble tonight, but Yao's just a great player. Night in and night out he does it for us."

Yao and Howard both made spectacular plays.

Nelson found Howard over Yao for an alley-oop in the second quarter; Howard's dunk less than a minute later helped energize the crowd. The Magic looked lifeless early and have struggled at home, dropping to 7-8 at Amway Arena with the loss.

"The thing is that it's frustrating that we're giving teams an opportunity to have calls being decided in the last minute," Foyle said. "I didn't see the replay, but I thought it was good because as I tapped it and I was coming down, I saw the light through the basket and I thought I had a good chance of getting it in."

Though Yao easily won the head-to-head matchup, he admired Howard's game.

"I have to say, he works really, really hard," Yao said. "I didn't see his workouts, but I can feel it. He improved so much from last year, from my standpoint. I need to catch up, you know?"

The Magic hung around until the end and managed to tie it on Lewis' 3-pointer with 19 seconds left.

After Alston's bucket, Orlando had 4 seconds to inbound the ball to win or tie. Lewis threw up a floater that bounced off the backboard and rim, and then Foyle rose up to tap it in.

Tracy McGrady watched in a suit from the bench, out his fifth straight game with left knee problems. The Rockets expect him to miss up to another 1½ weeks and hadn't done well without him but didn't need him Friday.

Orlando was outrebounded 44-36, helping account for 16 Houston second-chance points to the Magic's five. Orlando has beat only one team over .500 at home this season, though it was the powerhouse Celtics.

Game notes
Tiger Woods, who has a home in the area, made his second straight appearance at a Magic game, a rarity. Woods is sitting out the PGA Tour opener this weekend in Hawaii. ... Magic guard Keith Bogans left in the fourth quarter with an apparent ankle injury. Friday was the first game all season he hadn't started, but it was a coach's decision, not because of an injury. ... The Rockets had lost two in a row.










Adonal Foyle appeared to tip in Rashard Lewis' driving layup miss with a fraction of a second left to tie it and force overtime. But officials shocked the crowd, which had watched the replay several times, by returning to wave off the bucket. No record of an official call was made, and the officiating crew declined comment




This is troublesome that no official record was made of the ruling.

that is protocol on a call that most admitted was the closest ever.
btw, an official call was made, just not on the court...it was made at the scorer's table :rolleyes

Armando
01-05-2008, 02:22 AM
Just another night of fine NBA officiating. :toast

Armando
01-05-2008, 02:26 AM
This is why the NBA should make refs available to the press for postgame questions. It would make the officiating more transparent.

ChumpDumper
01-05-2008, 02:38 AM
Are there any stills other than the one shot by Zapruder in this thread?

itzsoweezee
01-05-2008, 03:19 AM
i couldn't watch the game, so i followed online. but according to yahoo sports, play-by-play, adelman took yao out of the game on the last play (the one where foyle scored). why the hell did he do that?!?! i know adelman is a horrible coach, but that move makes absolutely no sense. and the rockets almost paid for it. of course, ignore this if yahoo sports was wrong and yao was in the game on the last play.

Matchman
01-05-2008, 03:34 AM
i couldn't watch the game, so i followed online. but according to yahoo sports, play-by-play, adelman took yao out of the game on the last play (the one where foyle scored). why the hell did he do that?!?! i know adelman is a horrible coach, but that move makes absolutely no sense. and the rockets almost paid for it. of course, ignore this if yahoo sports was wrong and yao was in the game on the last play.

Yao is too slow to guard anyone, plus he already got 5 fouls. he wouldve fouled out if the game goes to overtime.

DOMINATOR
01-05-2008, 11:49 AM
i couldn't watch the game, so i followed online. but according to yahoo sports, play-by-play, adelman took yao out of the game on the last play (the one where foyle scored). why the hell did he do that?!?! i know adelman is a horrible coach, but that move makes absolutely no sense. and the rockets almost paid for it. of course, ignore this if yahoo sports was wrong and yao was in the game on the last play.
howard already fouled out of the game. so he put in a quick F and rotated the D on everybody.

m33p0
01-05-2008, 12:01 PM
This is why the NBA should make refs available to the press for postgame questions. It would make the officiating more transparent.
i actually would vote to have a referee to be a guest in the booth doing play by play.

BonnerDynasty
01-05-2008, 12:03 PM
Just another night of fine NBA officiating. :toast

:toast

Armando
01-05-2008, 12:06 PM
i actually would vote to have a referee to be a guest in the booth doing play by play.


That works

Armando
01-05-2008, 12:41 PM
In the end the Magic did themselves in. There is no excuse to be at home against the McGradyless Rockets and get down by 10 points in the 4th quarter. They need to do something with thier point guard position. They won't get past Detroit or Boston having a point guard by commitee.

SpursDynasty
01-05-2008, 02:54 PM
I don't blame the referees. Orlando's record has been inflated in the early part of this season, so the officials are making up for it by giving Houston the benefit of a doubt.

td4mvp21
01-05-2008, 03:04 PM
Yay, the Rockets are one step closer to .500! :clap

SpursDynasty
01-05-2008, 03:42 PM
Plus the two bullshit fouls that got called on Yao when they were on Dwight Fluke Howard, waiving Foyle's shot was the makeup call.

itzsoweezee
01-05-2008, 04:16 PM
Yao is too slow to guard anyone, plus he already got 5 fouls. he wouldve fouled out if the game goes to overtime.


he could've guarded foyle, the the 7 foot scrub who put back the tieing goal off an offensive rebound!

adelman almost cost them another game.

Hemotivo
01-05-2008, 06:50 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2008-01/34576208.jpg

Hemotivo
01-05-2008, 06:55 PM
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1046/goodcallhx1.jpg

Mr.Bottomtooth
01-05-2008, 06:57 PM
Still too blurry to tell.

Besides we need a side view.

Hemotivo
01-05-2008, 06:57 PM
http://nba.sports.tom.com/uimg/2008/1/5/fuwei/1199514447879_57654.jpg

http://nba.sports.tom.com/uimg/2008/1/5/fuwei/1199514447336_51154.jpg

http://nba.sports.tom.com/uimg/2008/1/5/fuwei/1199514448414_58709.jpg

m33p0
01-06-2008, 06:09 AM
http://nba.sports.tom.com/uimg/2008/1/5/fuwei/1199514448414_58709.jpg

"i'll have the quarter pounder with no cheese."