Titans vs Chargers (spread)

[Kori Ellis]

:p:

[J.T.]

I like the Chargers by 2 touchdowns if they can get LT rolling. Titans offense is coming into this game with it's WRs and starting QB limping, don't think they will get much done. They've had very little success finding the end zone in the last two games. Merriman will probably lay some wood. Can't see anyone picking the Titans unless they know something the rest of the world doesn't.

Vince is a bust and this game will prove it.

[fyatuk]

Titans 20-17. Rivers throws a TD, LT gets one (but is held to under 100 yards), Tennessee gets 2 on the ground. VY has a decent but not spectacular game and gets way too much credit for leading the drive for a go-ahead Bironas field goal with little time remaining :D

If not, no way the Chargers win by more than 4.

[mikejones99]

line up to 10.5

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Vince is a bust and this game will prove it.

Sincerely, Titans/Colts game of 2006.

[thispego]

Titans offense is coming into this game with it's starting QB limping.
........
Vince is a bust and this game will prove it.
this game wont prove shit about vy, isn't he still questionable to play anyway?

[J.T.]

Sincerely, Titans/Colts game of 2006.

I didn't know Vince kicked that FG.

[T Park]

Ill take the Titans in a squeeker.

Typical choker Chargers show up.

[dirk4mvp]

I didn't know Vince kicked that FG.

He didn't, but he got the Titans into great field position so Bironas could kick that chip in 60 yarder!

[midgetonadonkey]

The Titan D took this team to the playoffs despite Vince Young's shitty play.

[Fillmoe]

vince young just got FUCKED UP!

[J.T.]

Vince is a bust and this game will prove it.

I'm a got damn genius. Vince got hitsticked and he's not getting up.

[scott]

I'm a got damn genius. Vince got hitsticked and he's not getting up.

Its because his WRs suck.

[Warlord23]

The Titans' O-Line holding up pretty well so far, and Young is not as bad as some people claim. Also, the Titan D has the Charger offense on their heels. Jeff Fisher has got to be happy with the way this game is being played right now.

[Warlord23]

Right on cue, the Titans' RBs begin fumbling the ball

[J.T.]

Its because his WRs suck.

It's because Vince is a mother fucking bust.

[Fillmoe]

phillip rivers is a bum... and here i thought there wasn't a sorrier qb than alex smith... I WAS WRONG!

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I didn't know Vince kicked that FG.


Yeah I didn't realize vince totally had no impact on that game, how silly of me

Colts = gay

[BeerIsGood!]

It's because Vince is a mother fucking bust.
There isn't one QB from that draft doing worth a shit yet. Probably a bit of it has to do with people needing more than a season or two to become great QBs in the NFL.

[mookie2001]

thispego yew juss kent dew thengs like thet

[J.T.]

Titans couldn't find the end zone if every man on their roster was guaranteed 100 mil to score a TD. Worthless.

[DaHorns]

Titans D has LT's number right now, but thats not difficult since they really dont need to worry about Rivers.

[SpursFanFirst]

This game is crazy! Never did I imagine the Chargers would have this much trouble with the Titans. I know SD isn't that good, but still.

[SpursFanFirst]

Jeff Fisher is fit to be tied!

[thispego]

thispego yew juss kent dew thengs like thet
but i had to, i hope i dont regret it

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

There isn't one QB from that draft doing worth a shit yet. Probably a bit of it has to do with people needing more than a season or two to become great QBs in the NFL.


While not great, Cutler has moved ahead of the other QBs in that class. He's the only one that looks like he he has a clue when throwing the ball.

[Fillmoe]

cutler is a stud.... as of right now he easily is leading the pack from that draft

[J.T.]

BUST

[J.T.]

Jeff Fisher believed in Vince too much, and they lost the game. Not that Kerry Collins would have won them the game, because he wouldn't, but Vince was only able to get his team in position to score two field goals against the fucking Chargers?

BUST

[scott]

Vince Young just wins.

[Fillmoe]

i won..... YAY!

[Kermit]

Jeff Fisher believed in Vince too much, and they lost the game. Not that Kerry Collins would have won them the game, because he wouldn't, but Vince was only able to get his team in position to score two field goals against the fucking Chargers?

BUST

Revisionist history already by the anti-Vince troll. They were at the 10 and Henry fumbled. Kicker misses a chip-shot. That could be a 10 point swing right there. But they lost the game because of Vince? Idiot. The only mistake Vince made was the interception when the game was already over. Vince didn't win the game, but his play didn't lose it either. Blame stupid penalties, bad DB play, an untimely turnover, and a miss by a kicker who almost never does. You can now go back to sucking Peyton's cock.

[SpursFanFirst]

I can't believe I FINALLY won one of these. I've done horribly this year!

[bostonguy]

Bring on the Jags. 55-10 type of blowout as the God of QB's in Brady and the God of Coaches and gameplans in Belichick will be smiling with joy as they inch closer to a superbowl trophy they already have wrapped up. Saturday night is soon to be here!

[LaMarcus Bryant]

J.T. must have been a closet usc fan, this vince hate is on the baselessness level of a john gates whiteley


VY did not play very well, he seemed very afraid to run, like afraid to get hit. Is he becoming Colt McCoy or what? His passing was decent but his inability to see his short reads for quick throws when they brought blitzes kept leading to hurries and sacks

[TheSanityAnnex]

phillip rivers is a bum... and here i thought there wasn't a sorrier qb than alex smith... I WAS WRONG!You were right all along.



Rivers stepped up today, especially after Gates went down.

[slayermin]

You were right all along.



Rivers stepped up today, especially after Gates went down.

He deserves props for this game. I have been critical of him in the past. But he stepped up today.

[exstatic]

There were three sub-par (OK, shitty) offenses in the playoffs: Skins, Bucs, and Titans. Not a surprise that they all went out in round one.

[J.T.]

J.T. must have been a closet usc fan, this vince hate is on the baselessness level of a john gates whiteley


VY did not play very well, he seemed very afraid to run, like afraid to get hit. Is he becoming Colt McCoy or what? His passing was decent but his inability to see his short reads for quick throws when they brought blitzes kept leading to hurries and sacks

You're right man. I'm just a Vince hater. He put that team on his shoulders and backed them in and out of the playoffs like a true G. Props to Vince.

[stretch]

Revisionist history already by the anti-Vince troll. They were at the 10 and Henry fumbled. Kicker misses a chip-shot. That could be a 10 point swing right there. But they lost the game because of Vince? Idiot. The only mistake Vince made was the interception when the game was already over. Vince didn't win the game, but his play didn't lose it either. Blame stupid penalties, bad DB play, an untimely turnover, and a miss by a kicker who almost never does. You can now go back to sucking Peyton's cock.
lol, owned

[stretch]

J.T. must have been a closet usc fan, this vince hate is on the baselessness level of a john gates whiteley


VY did not play very well, he seemed very afraid to run, like afraid to get hit. Is he becoming Colt McCoy or what? His passing was decent but his inability to see his short reads for quick throws when they brought blitzes kept leading to hurries and sacks
IMO, Norm Chow is over coaching him. They just need to let him run more plays out of shotgun, and do what he does best... make plays.

[samikeyp]

phillip rivers is a bum... and here i thought there wasn't a sorrier qb than alex smith... I WAS WRONG!

No...you were pretty dead on...Smith is the worst.

[dirk4mvp]

Black Jesus!

[J.T.]

I'm glad Tony Dungy colluded with Jeff Fisher for that brilliant first round exit. Fucking Browns would have lost this game so much worse than the Titans did.

[Fabbs]

Anyone got a YouTube or other recording of LTs replay touchdown to make it 17-6. What constitutes momentum stopped. Charger lineman pushed his back to get him over. Was he stopped before that?

[monosylab1k]

VY did not play very well, he seemed very afraid to run, like afraid to get hit. Is he becoming Colt McCoy or what?
That's 100% Norm Chow. He's trying to turn him into Matt Leinart which is fucking retarded. I swear, this new crop of USC guys freakin suck dick in the NFL, players and coaches alike.

There's a reason Texas bitch slapped USC, so let's coach the Texas guys with Texas philosophies and not turn them into USC pussies.

[monosylab1k]

Anyone got a YouTube or other recording of LTs replay touchdown to make it 17-6. What constitutes momentum stopped. Charger lineman pushed his back to get him over. Was he stopped before that?
That was the bullshit call of the game. The Chargers lineman clearly pushed LT forward.

[TheSanityAnnex]

That was the bullshit call of the game. The Chargers lineman clearly pushed LT forward.Ball broke the plane on the initial jump. A booth review would have clearly showed that had it been challenged, as has every replay shown since.

[J.T.]

Ball broke the plane on the initial jump. A booth review would have clearly showed that had it been challenged, as has every replay shown since.

It didn't look like he made it on the initial leap but granted I only saw the live play and one or two replays, I was at work during the game.

[TheSanityAnnex]

It didn't look like he made it on the initial leap but granted I only saw the live play and one or two replays, I was at work during the game.I've seen in plenty of times on the NFL Networks game recaps. To me, it looks like he breaks the plane initially.

Not sure how his second effort results in being a bullshit touchdown though, hopefully Mono will explain.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Ball broke the plane on the initial jump. A booth review would have clearly showed that had it been challenged, as has every replay shown since.This is all I can find.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS7wJtUGAXg

[KidCongo]

Can i get payed already..lol

[J.T.]

This is all I can find.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS7wJtUGAXg

Real hard to tell but it's not like that TD affected the outcome any, so I don't know what there is to bitch about. I said for weeks before this game that the Titans can't find the end zone for dick and I was right.

[ducks]

ball broke the plane on second effort
linemen did not help him he moved his arm up and held out the football

[ducks]

nov turner was right
needed more options in playoffs then lt
jackson and chambers got it done

players did not think so but they finnaly got convinved
the ravens showed teams you can stop lt but then rivers played and won

[monosylab1k]

Not sure how his second effort results in being a bullshit touchdown though, hopefully Mono will explain.
He was clearly being pushed by his lineman. His extension is what broke the plane the second time, but unless he regained forward momentum from being pushed ahead by the lineman, he never would have been able to reach over.

The booth review said he broke the plane on the second effort so the refs concurred that he didn't make it on the initial push. At that point they should have negated the TD since the lineman pushed him forward.

[traitoravery]

The Titans need a big play threat. They need to hold onto the ball also. We will be back next year. Cuck the Folts and Peyton bitch ass manning with his two all star recievers.

[Fabbs]

He was clearly being pushed by his lineman. His extension is what broke the plane the second time, but unless he regained forward momentum from being pushed ahead by the lineman, he never would have been able to reach over.

The booth review said he broke the plane on the second effort so the refs concurred that he didn't make it on the initial push. At that point they should have negated the TD since the lineman pushed him forward.
Initial lunge one camera angle looks like LT certainly broke plane. However that camera is a yard or two removed from the goaline. dk why it was not placed right on the goaline. As play is going camera crew moves camera not only to goaline but they overcorrect and go a yard or two into the playing field. Screw up by camera crew for sure!
Opposite side angle looks like Tennessee middle linebacker Stephen Tullochkept him out, altho again the camera is not placed on the goaling but rather a yard or two in the playing field.

Then it looks like his momentum was stopped, altho in realtime it's all pretty much one motion.

2nd effort definitely a result of push in back by teamate Brandon Manumaleuna #86.

So did referee Ed Hochuli conclude LT broke it on the first lunge and thus conclude it was a blown call initially thus award? Because clearly LT got pushed in on #2.

[thispego]

Initial lunge one camera angle looks like LT certainly broke plane. However that camera is a yard or two removed from the goaline. dk why it was not placed right on the goaline. As play is going camera crew moves camera not only to goaline but they overcorrect and go a yard or two into the playing field. Screw up by camera crew for sure!
Opposite side angle looks like Tennessee middle linebacker Stephen Tullochkept him out, altho again the camera is not placed on the goaling but rather a yard or two in the playing field.

Then it looks like his momentum was stopped, altho in realtime it's all pretty much one motion.

2nd effort definitely a result of push in back by teamate Brandon Manumaleuna #86.

So did referee Ed Hochuli conclude LT broke it on the first lunge and thus conclude it was a blown call initially thus award? Because clearly LT got pushed in on #2.
i dnt think it was nearly as clear as you say it was. Looked to me like LT went airborne, got popped, stood up and then extended his arm. he was being pushed forward by his offense and being pushed back by the defense, it was the arm extension that got him the td, not a push from behind.

[Fabbs]

i dnt think it was nearly as clear as you say it was. Looked to me like LT went airborne, got popped, stood up and then extended his arm. he was being pushed forward by his offense and being pushed back by the defense, it was the arm extension that got him the td, not a push from behind. Without the push from behind the arm extension does not cross goaline. Not even close. Clear as a bell on attempt #2.

Maybe somebodywill have a YouTube or the lame NFL will allow a vid to be put out.
I doubt the latter.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The booth review said he broke the plane on the second effort so the refs concurred that he didn't make it on the initial push. At that point they should have negated the TD since the lineman pushed him forward.The call on the field was that his second effort made it in, not his first effort. Why would they be reviewing a play that in their eyes didn't happen? They couldn't come out of the booth review and say, "after reviewing the play, we fucked up, the runner scored on the first and second efforts."

And leave it to Mono to bitch about LT some more. Do you truly think this Touchdown would have made a difference? The Titans had scored two field goals up until this point, and had done absolutely nothing in the second half against the Chargers D. What makes you think they would have been able to move the ball from their own 2 inch line? Would have still been a 4 point game with the Chargers getting the ball back. Stop your fucking whining.

[monosylab1k]

The call on the field was that his second effort made it in, not his first effort. Why would they be reviewing a play that in their eyes didn't happen? They couldn't come out of the booth review and say, "after reviewing the play, the runner scored on the first and second efforts."
the booth reviews the entire play. if he made it in the first time, that would be all they needed. they obviously didn't think he made it the first time, and needed to review the rest of the play since they specifically stated that he made it on the second effort. which brings into question why they ignored the fact that he got pushed forward on said second effort.

[monosylab1k]

And leave it to Mono to bitch about LT some more. Do you truly think this Touchdown would have made a difference? The Titans had scored two field goals up until this point, and had done absolutely nothing in the second half against the Chargers D. What makes you think they would have been able to move the ball from their own 2 inch line? Would have still been a 4 point game with the Chargers getting the ball back. Stop your fucking whining.
I'm sure if this was NE-SD in the AFC Championship Game and it was Maroney getting pushed into the end zone with a 10-6 lead, you'd have no problem with it as well, right?

[monosylab1k]

nevermind, ignore my example there. it was very poorly thought out.




there's no way San Diego will be in the AFC Championship Game this year.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Ehh........whatever. I still think he makes it initially. Titans linebacker hits LT while his feet are still in the endzone.

Watching it in slow motion does two things.
1. appears LT makes it initially.
2. appears LT's forward progress is stopped.

Watching it in real time does two things.
1. appears LT does not make it initially.
2. appears LT's forward progress is not stopped.

[J.T.]

the booth reviews the entire play. if he made it in the first time, that would be all they needed. they obviously didn't think he made it the first time, and needed to review the rest of the play since they specifically stated that he made it on the second effort. which brings into question why they ignored the fact that he got pushed forward on said second effort.

It was a coach challenge, not a booth review. :tu

[monosylab1k]

It was a coach challenge, not a booth review. :tu
either way, the entire play is reviewed.

[Fabbs]

It was a coach challenge, not a booth review. :tu

mono
either way, the entire play is reviewed.
I dont think so. CCs only the limited call in question is looked at.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Exactly what I was pointing out.

[monosylab1k]

I dont think so.
you're wrong.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Ex: Coach challenges that a receiver was in fact inbounds.

Referee reviews play and sees the receiver was not in fact inbounds, but defender facemasked him on attempted catch. The referee can not come out of the booth and say, "the receiver was out of bounds, but he was facemasked, so first down".

Not how it works Mono.

[monosylab1k]

jags-chargers game. mathis gets the interception, gets up and runs with it. tomlin challenges that a part of mathis landed out of bounds. turns out, he was down by contact to begin with. refs call that he's down by contact, and don't mention that he was also out of bounds because it wasn't relevant.

[monosylab1k]

Ex: Coach challenges that a receiver was in fact inbounds.

Referee reviews play and sees the receiver was not in fact inbounds, but defender facemasked him on attempted catch. The referee can not come out of the booth and say, "the receiver was out of bounds, but he was facemasked, so first down".

Not how it works Mono.
facemask isn't a reviewable offense.

[TheSanityAnnex]

facemask isn't a reviewable offense.No one challenged a facemask. I'm pointing out the fact that only what is being challenged can be reviewed.

Fisher challenged the second effort TD call made by the referees, not the first effort possible TD the referees possibly missed. And again, not really a big deal. Titans could not move the ball.

[monosylab1k]

No one challenged a facemask. I'm pointing out the fact that only what is being challenged can be reviewed.
no, the entire play is reviewed. if a coach challenges if a player caught a ball inbounds, and it turns out that he actually stepped out of bounds, came back in, then caught the ball, they will rule that it was an illegal touch even though the coach didn't challenge an illegal touch. illegal touch and challenging if a player caught the ball out of bounds are both reviewable plays. even though the ref challenged one, if the other happened then it can be overturned as well.

[TheSanityAnnex]

:sleep

LT should have been awarded two touchdowns since he made it in twice.

[leemajors]

he didn't make it in initially, but held the ball over the goal line after. not much to it, i didn't notice much of a bush push.