Spurs @ Warriors Jan. 7 - Game Blog

[Vinnie_Johnson]

V-Bookie should have been on Jacksons shot count he is at 19

[boutons_]

Baron and Sjax choking on their 3Gs

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

figures, i work 13 hours today, and the game goes into o/t

[Budkin]

OH SHIT!!! TP behond the back to Timmy!!!

[BonnerDynasty]

Wow that was a nice pass.

[SequSpur]

i can't believe bonner didn't get that last second shot.. wtf?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

And anyway, those two Davis 3 point plays against Bowen were BULLSHIT.

[SpursDynasty]

This game should have been won in regulation.

Tony Parker just made a routine shot at the end of regulation, no big surprises there...

Just close it out.

[Budkin]

We gotta win this one!!!

[Dex]

Baron Davis' linebacker style pisses me off too.

Whatever happened to calling less fouls when the shooter initiates the contact?

[703 Spurz]

figures, i work 13 hours today, and the game goes into o/t

Nothing like needing to get up in 7 1/2 hours :toast

[Roxsfan]

I turned the game on just in time to see that clutch 3pt shot by TP....Holy Motherfucking Shit!!!!


nice sig, kinda looks like that young blond cutie from girls next door--playboy.

[Budkin]

When the fuck are we not going to leave Jax open?

[freemeat]

Yeah, what's up with Bowen not being in the game?

[ShoogarBear]

It would be nice to play some D on Jax.

[Budkin]

Udoka 33333333333333333

[spursfan09]

Udoka!!!! hes starting to become a fave of mine.

[BonnerDynasty]

i can't believe bonner didn't get that last second shot.. wtf?


He willed TP's shot in from the bench man.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

f'n o/t and jax will f me on the v-bookie

[ChumpDumper]

does Manu have instructions to leave Jack wide open every play?

Actually, yes.

[ShoogarBear]

i can't believe bonner didn't get that last second shot.. wtf?:rollin

[Dex]

That is a bullshit call. He grazed him after the fucking pass.

[Tek_XX]

shit, they already get FT's

[Budkin]

Ugh stupid foul.

[spursfan09]

does Manu have instructions to leave Jack wide open every play?

yeah and to foul him at all possible times

[Warlord23]

Trading 3s with this team is not a great idea ... stay in their grill

[Budkin]

Come on Spurs!!

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah, what's up with Bowen not being in the game?

Baron Davis was working him.. he's too strong. Bowen was a little banged up in this game. So Udoka is filling in.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Classic game.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Nothing like needing to get up in 7 1/2 hours :toast

try 5 and im buzzed

[Roxsfan]

Um, no, dickhead.

Udoka got ball and Baron barrelled into Tim without the ball.


easy, that was my opinion.

whats with the name calling.

[Budkin]

Dammit Timmy... Jax for 3 again... shit.

[Steve Irwin]

Mah Patna Sjax Ftw!

[ShoogarBear]

Udoka is not clutch.

[Steve Irwin]

Thats What Im Talkin About Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Boy!

[angel_luv]

Let's leave Jackson open- brilliant end of game strategy. :rolleyes

[Budkin]

Game?

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

f this game im off to bed. g night

[boutons_]

fuck fuck fuck

[Dex]

What the fuck ever.

Hang the ref.

[Steve Irwin]

Warriors Shit On Ya'll

[spursfan09]

Damn it. Spurs cant seem to win the close games.

[Budkin]

God this fucking Sucks!

[ChumpDumper]

:lol @ the refs.

[Steve Irwin]

Sjax Is A Monsta At Pullin Up And Shittin On D's

[Roxsfan]

True but so what. Go crawl back into your hole.


what did I do to you

[dougp]

Charge into Manu, no call ... nice way to fuck up a close game, refs.

Oh, and Roxsfan, go back to the clutch forums.

[SpursDynasty]

Gee what a surprise. A no call that is a disadvantage to the Spurs.

[RashoFan]

nice sig, kinda looks like that young blond cutie from girls next door--playboy.
Thanks...kinda how I feel. Lost Angel boozing it up...:lol
:drunk

[Warlord23]

Where's the fucking D? These are the kind of games we use our D to pull out

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Fucking Jax.

:pctoss

[Ice009]

FOR FUCKS SAKE. I"M GOING TO KILL SOMEONE. POP NEEDS TO TELL THESE FUCKING IDIOTS NOT TO LEAVE THREE POINT SHOOTERS OPEN in the 4th quarter or overtime. FUCK

[LaMarcus Bryant]

i cannot stand when the spurs play zone defense
they always get owned on the offensive boards
ALWAYS

[Steve Irwin]

Dont Blame The Refs The Warriors Won Plain And Simple Yadadadadamean!!!

[Budkin]

Fucking bullshit calls.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Buckets might get to 40.

[meta2007]

This is a great game. The spurs are b2b.

[Budkin]

That about does it... valiant effort though.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Duncan was a ball hog on that one possession

[ChumpDumper]

Dont Blame The Refs The Warriors Won Plain And Simple Yadadadadamean!!!Use your real screen name.

[ShoogarBear]

Please don't leave Jax open.

[Ice009]

Pathetic. Spurts Freaking Awful Defense Tonight

[Budkin]

Dagger.

[BonnerDynasty]

Davis is a scary man.

So this is what Dallas felt like lmao.

[Steve Irwin]

B Diddy Comin Up Clutch On Minez

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Oh well, great game, bad calls both ways, we just don't have the D right now to pull it out.

[Budkin]

Holy shit we gave up 128+ pts. :lmao

[Kori Ellis]

... leave Jax open.

That was Manu's defensive plan in OT. :lol

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

We have Jax, we'd win the next 3 straight. And Davis is a WARRIOR.

[ShoogarBear]

Oh, well, LMAO @ all the SJax hatas getting owned.

[Budkin]

B Diddy Comin Up Clutch On Minez

Hey Irwin, stay dead.

[NorCal510]

Use your real screen name.
whats that gonna do you crump bitch!

[Ice009]

WHAT AN AWFUL DISPLAY OF DEFENSE. nothing pisses me off more than leaving people open for threes. That Denver game pissed me off leaving Carter open, leaving Jackson open after we all know what he can do is inexcusable.

[angel_luv]

Sigh- three possession game.

[Dex]

That's ballgame.

I'm not gonna say the Warriors didn't earn it. Well, I'm not gonna say that Baron Davis, Stephen Jackson, and Monta Ellis didn't earn it.

But the refs were a joke this game. If you don't like that opinion, you can bite me.

[SpursFanFirst]

128-121

[NorCal510]

warriors stay on top

ballllllllllllllllllllllllas

[ShoogarBear]

That was Manu's defensive plan in OT. :lolThat was horrible. WTF?

[boutons_]

Spurs lost this game in the first half, fucking around, lackadaisical.

[ChumpDumper]

whats that gonna do you crump bitch!:lmao

you're pink!

[Ice009]

I need to stop there cause POP let Jax go for the good of the team.

[NorCal510]

:lmao

you're pink!
you're gay

:lmao

[Budkin]

Can't catch a fucking break.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I will never understand why Pop bothers with zone
these offensive rebounds are disgusting

plus leaving jackson open like that was complete bull shit

[ChumpDumper]

you're gay

:lmaoThanks for doing what I told you, you obedient bitch!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Hmmmm.... this feels just like January last year when I was at SA.

This team is at a crossroads. We won't know until March which path they will choose.

[Xylus]

Excellent. :)

[Budkin]

NorCal pwned.

[Roxsfan]

Oh, well, LMAO @ all the SJax hatas getting owned.


No kidding, he went from clutch 3s to clanging 2, to cold-blooded 3s...

the misses didn't phase him

[angel_luv]

I should have gone to sleep after Tony's three to force OT.

That was the high point of this game.

All I have gotten out of watching OT is less sleep. :(

[Budkin]

Damn I wish we still had Jax.... fucking clutch!

[Tek_XX]

Spurs just go to your locker room.

[Kori Ellis]

I need to stop there cause POP let Jax go for the good of the team.

Pop didn't let Jack go. Jack left.

[Amarelooms]

Can't catch a fucking break.

Now you know how the Mavs felt.....GS hitting bullshit shots and on fire from 3 point land....almost impossible to beat em :elephant

[angel_luv]

Now they're just playing ugly. Sloppy.

Oh well... come on home boys.
Next!

[SpursFanFirst]

130-121 :25

[resistanze]

I couldn't resist...I came outta my bed to turn back on the TV. Another 20 minutes wasted!

[SpursFanFirst]

nevermind...game over

[ludda]

I hate him now, but Baron Davis is amazing. That's it.

Parker came up big tonight.

[Ice009]

Well at least Tim didn't go DIRK tonight and get scared of the midgets.

[BonnerDynasty]

I think Chuck Norris has passed the torch to Baron Davis.

[Budkin]

Goddamn I really thought we had this one in OT.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

That's ballgame.

I'm not gonna say the Warriors didn't earn it. Well, I'm not gonna say that Baron Davis, Stephen Jackson, and Monta Ellis didn't earn it.

But the refs were a joke this game. If you don't like that opinion, you can bite me.

Me too.

Especially the two B Davis 3pt plays in the 4th, and the poor calls against Tim all night.

[SpursDynasty]

The Warriors got more calls in their favor than Dallas usually does. Pathetic.

[SequSpur]

Pop didn't let Jack go. Jack left.

I think he wanted to stay but the Spurs went with the manu plan... unfortunate today but the spurs are still the champs.

[RashoFan]

That right there....members on both teams "good game" each other....
Respect!

[Kori Ellis]

Spurs had a lot of bad calls go their way too.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Me too.

Especially the two B Davis 3pt plays in the 4th, and the poor calls against Tim all night.


....dude blaming the refs is so lame, especially when duncan had more free throws than almost the entire warriors team combined late in the fourth


spurs lost this because of a fucked up defensive plan and giving up and-1's to baron davis all night

[meta2007]

This is b2b. The spurs run out of gas in OT.

It is a great game!

[ludda]

I liked the confetti. wtf

[NorCal510]

Thanks for doing what I told you, you obedient bitch!

im rubber and you're gum, whatever you say sticks back to you.

eat that cock sucking faggot.

[Budkin]

Now you know how the Mavs felt.....GS hitting bullshit shots and on fire from 3 point land....almost impossible to beat em :elephant

True dat... nothing you can do when the other team is shooting lights out.

[bigfundamental21]

Goddamn I really thought we had this one in OT.
Same here.

Hell of a game. Too bad we lost it in OT. Good job by the Spurs to get back in it and force OT. Defense killed us as we left their shooters wide open from 3.

[Tek_XX]

Now you know how the Mavs felt.....GS hitting bullshit shots and on fire from 3 point land....almost impossible to beat em :elephant

Ya'll were blown out by 30

[ChumpDumper]

I liked the confetti. wtfThey won the January 8 championship.

[Kori Ellis]

I think he wanted to stay but the Spurs went with the manu plan... unfortunate today but the spurs are still the champs.

He could have stayed. Spurs made him a reasonable offer around 3-4 million a year, and his agent chose not to call the Spurs back, and he went to Atlanta for the minimum.

Oh well, I love Jack as much as anyone, but the Spurs still ended up alright :smokin

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

At least we got to see Manu and Tim congratulate Jackson, I guess?

[J.T.]

Trading Beno ended the dynasty.

[boutons_]

Spurs under .500 on the road, 6-8 and
.500 in Last10

Hard to be Spurs fan Dec - Feb.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

....dude blaming the refs is so lame, especially when duncan had more free throws than almost the entire warriors team combined late in the fourth


spurs lost this because of a fucked up defensive plan and giving up and-1's to baron davis all night

STFU. Read what was quoted. I was agreeing that the Warriors deserved to win but there were lots of poor calls.

Why the fuck can't people read?

[ChumpDumper]

im rubber and you're gum, whatever you say sticks back to you.

eat that cock sucking faggot.Uh, you're the one in pink.

Stay in school and learn how to rhyme.

[Kori Ellis]

blahblahblah.

What did you say?

You'd like all your IP's banned and screen names deleted?

Got it.

[Tek_XX]

Spurs had a lot of bad calls go their way too.

Deleaney wasn't even paying attention on that last missed call. Makes me sick.

[Budkin]

I really don't feel all that bad about this loss. We fought hard and the big 3 were pretty awesome. I feel like we are going to go on a tear pretty soon. Bring on the Pistons!

[bigfundamental21]

Gotta hand it to the Warriors. Those mofos don't quit.

[J.T.]

What did you say?

You'd like all your IP's banned and screen names deleted?

Got it.

If this happens I will $#1t a chicken.

[Budkin]

What did you say?

You'd like all your IP's banned and screen names deleted?

Got it.

Nice!!!

[ChumpDumper]

I'm glad the Spurs didn't roll over after that crappy first half. That's the most I can take from this game.

[Xylus]

As much as I love to see the Spurs lose, I know it doesn't mean anything. They could be getting blown out every night but still round into shape by March, and then blaze into the playoffs playing their best ball.

Fucking Pop.

[Ice009]

I think he wanted to stay but the Spurs went with the manu plan... unfortunate today but the spurs are still the champs.


Could we have resigned Jax with out screwing the Manu plan in 2005? I'm pretty sure we could have since Jax was a free agent from Atlanta and the Spurs could have signed him instead Barry. My first choice was Jax second Nocionni third Barry. Well Pop went with Barry. All the Spurs had to do was offer him the full midlevel exception and I'm sure he would have been onboard, if not at least they would have tried and then moved onto Barry or Nocioni.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Baron Davis took Udoka to school...
he's not ready yet to shine Bowen's boots.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Oh, and those "and 1s", two of them against Bowen in the fourth during Davis's 12pt run, were bullshit. Bowen didn't touch him, he leaned his shoulder in and grazed Bowen's stomach both times.

Anyway, great game, Warriors deserved to win, time for us to do some soul-searching and find the D that makes this team tick, becuase right now they couldn't be further from it.

[RashoFan]

Rodeo Road Trip...makes or breaks. The Team really pulls together after those 2weeks away. I will not freak out over the losses that occur now...just the ones after FEB.
:lol

[bigfundamental21]

Baron Davis took Udoka to school...
he's not ready yet to shine Bowen's boots.
Bowen didn't necessarily do any better against him. Baron was just sick tonight. Tough guard for anyone.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

As much as I love to see the Spurs lose, I know it doesn't mean anything. They could be getting blown out every night but still round into shape by March, and then blaze into the playoffs playing their best ball.

Fucking Pop.

Nice backhanded compliment!

Maybe you should defect... :lmao

[DazedAndConfused]

GS has got to be one of the best 4th quarter teams in the league. I have never seen a team produce so many 4th quarter comeback wins in my life. If they are playing at home and the game is even reasonably close you can almost guarantee a Warrior victory. It's insane.

They seem to have a knack for hitting those timely 3pt shots.

[Budkin]

Oh, and those "and 1s", two of them against Bowen in the fourth during Davis's 12pt run, were bullshit. Bowen didn't touch him, he leaned his shoulder in and grazed Bowen's stomach both times.

Anyway, great game, Warriors deserved to win, time for us to do some soul-searching and find the D that makes this team tick, becuase right now they couldn't be further from it.

Our D has been stellar as of late, it's our offense that was killing us. Tonight the problem was reversed.

[Tek_XX]

Baron Davis took Udoka to school...
he's not ready yet to shine Bowen's boots.

He needed a double team, and not the one that left a Jax open. Udoka can't stop Davis, he could have done whatever he wanted.

[bigfundamental21]

GS has got to be one of the best 4th quarter teams in the league. I have never seen a team produce so many 4th quarter comeback wins in my life. If they are playing at home and the game is even reasonably close you can almost guarantee a Warrior victory. It's insane.

They seem to have a knack for hitting those timely 3pt shots.
It doesn't help when you leave them wide open, again and again, and again.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

STFU. Read what was quoted. I was agreeing that the Warriors deserved to win but there were lots of poor calls.

Why the fuck can't people read?


poor calls went both ways, what about when oberto blatantly fouled baron's arm and no call was made

blaming the refs in any way for this is lame

tim going for a steal on jackson and moving away from the basket while jackson pivoted and made a baby layup is the type of shit defense that caused us to lose

not baron davis getting a whistle

udoka fouling baron davis like he's wearing pink panties instead of fouling him harder so he gets 2 regular free throws is what caused us to lose

manu leaving jackson so wide open that he was allowed to smoke an entire blunt before taking the shot is what caused us to lose


not the refs

[J.T.]

I really hope that threat to Norcal comes through. The day SpursTalk was saved! 1/8/2008

[Kori Ellis]

GS has got to be one of the best 4th quarter teams in the league. I have never seen a team produce so many 4th quarter comeback wins in my life. If they are playing at home and the game is even reasonably close you can almost guarantee a Warrior victory. It's insane.

They seem to have a knack for hitting those timely 3pt shots.

It's because Stephen Jackson makes love to pressure.

[Kori Ellis]

manu leaving jackson so wide open that he was allowed to smoke an entire blunt before taking the shot is what caused us to lose

:lmao

[bigfundamental21]

I cannot wait to read timvp's thoughts on this one. What a game!

[itzsoweezee]

neither davis nor jackson are good shooters, but when the pressure's on, they kill you, especially in oakland where they have that great crowd behind them.

[Kori Ellis]

I cannot wait to read timvp's thoughts on this one. What a game!

I think he's in the other room re-watching the ending :lmao

[Ice009]

Bowen didn't necessarily do any better against him. Baron was just sick tonight. Tough guard for anyone.


Baron had a great game tonight. Enough said about that. Baron was clutch.

[ploto]

Could we have resigned Jax with out screwing the Manu plan in 2005? I'm pretty sure we could have since Jax was a free agent from Atlanta and the Spurs could have signed him instead Barry. My first choice was Jax second Nocionni third Barry. Well Pop went with Barry. All the Spurs had to do was offer him the full midlevel exception and I'm sure he would have been onboard...
Correct except it was 2004.

[SequSpur]

poor calls went both ways, what about when oberto blatantly fouled baron's arm and no call was made

blaming the refs in any way for this is lame

tim going for a steal on jackson and moving away from the basket while jackson pivoted and made a baby layup is the type of shit defense that caused us to lose

not baron davis getting a whistle

udoka fouling baron davis like he's wearing pink panties instead of fouling him harder so he gets 2 regular free throws is what caused us to lose

manu leaving jackson so wide open that he was allowed to smoke an entire blunt before taking the shot is what caused us to lose


not the refs

exactly... this is spurs 07-08 basketball so far. the refs don't lose games for you but shit the warriors were getting all the ticky tack fouls the spurs weren't..

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Manu was so mad at the end of game he needs to beat himself up tonight over his defensive lapses, bottle that up and unleash his fury on the Pistons on Thursday.

[Budkin]

I cannot wait to read timvp's thoughts on this one. What a game!

Seriously... I really enjoyed that one even though we lost. We'll be fine!

[ShoogarBear]

manu leaving jackson so wide open that he was allowed to smoke an entire blunt before taking the shot is what caused us to lose
:lmao

[RashoFan]

GS has got to be one of the best 4th quarter teams in the league. I have never seen a team produce so many 4th quarter comeback wins in my life. If they are playing at home and the game is even reasonably close you can almost guarantee a Warrior victory. It's insane.

They seem to have a knack for hitting those timely 3pt shots.
And the home court fans are loud and proud! GS 6th man is their fans.

[Ice009]

It doesn't help when you leave them wide open, again and again, and again.


I'm sick of yelling at the Spurs. For the past month I've been yelling at them for leaving three point shooters open. Pop needs to freaking tell them to start defending the perimeter. I was pissed after the Denver game and am pissed tonight.

[SequSpur]

I'm sick of yelling at the Spurs. For the past month I've been yelling at them for leaving three point shooters open. Pop needs to freaking tell them to start defending the perimeter. I was pissed after the Denver game and am pissed tonight.

come back in march, you'll feel better.

[RashoFan]

LMB blunt comment is sigworthy...

[duncan228]

Intense game.

And he may have made some mistakes but I thought Duncan was incredible.
32 points (9-19)
13 boards, 4 offensive
3 assists
only 1 turnover (nice, his TO's have been horrible lately)
and...14-16 at the line

He continues to amaze me, continues to be a joy for me to watch.
Bring on the soft talk, bring on whatever you want.

He was great tonight and he will bring his team to the repeat.

[Budkin]

I can't wait for the game on Thursday! 4 game home stretch coming up!

[Ice009]

Correct except it was 2004.


Yes that's what I meant Ploto thanks for correcting me.

1 Sjax
2 Nocioni
3 Barry

I have no idea why the Spurs went after Barry as their number one choice. I didn't agree with it then and still don't agree with it now. The funny thing is Nocioni would have been cheaper than Barry.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes that's what I meant Ploto thanks for correcting me.

1 Sjax
2 Nocioni
3 Barry

I have no idea why the Spurs went after Barry as their number one choice. I didn't agree with it then and still don't agree with it now. The funny thing is Nocioni would have been cheaper than Barry.
And we never won again....

[SequSpur]

Nocioni? He wasn't ever going to be a spur...

[Budkin]

Intense game.

And he may have made some mistakes but I thought Duncan was incredible.
32 points (9-19)
13 boards, 4 offensive
3 assists
only 1 turnover (nice, his TO's have been horrible lately)
and...14-16 at the line

He continues to amaze me, continues to be a joy for me to watch.
Bring on the soft talk, bring on whatever you want.

He was great tonight and he will bring his team to the repeat.

I agree... assuming he remains healthy he will be a beast in the playoffs once again for us. This is the year of the repeat!

[RashoFan]

LMB blunt comment is sigworthy...
At least for a few days....

[Joe Schmoogins]

I'm not worried about this lost. They played the Warriors tough. Could have won. Oh well. The D is far from perfect, but considering that this was the first game since November in which the big three played the entire game, no worries. They are still finding their way back into their swagger, and the defense will undoubtedly come around.

[timvp]

I think he's in the other room re-watching the ending :lmaoYou know me too well. And that wasn't a pretty ending.

WHY ARE YOU LEAVING SJAX :madrun

[Tek_XX]

How did we ever go on without Stephan Jackson?

[Budkin]

Pop actually doesn't seem all that mad. I think he feels pretty good about the comeback in the 4th.

[SpursDynasty]

Let's trade Michael Finley, Ime Udoka, and Jacque Vaughn for Stephen Jackson.

[Ice009]

Intense game.

And he may have made some mistakes but I thought Duncan was incredible.
32 points (9-19)
13 boards, 4 offensive
3 assists
only 1 turnover (nice, his TO's have been horrible lately)
and...14-16 at the line

He continues to amaze me, continues to be a joy for me to watch.
Bring on the soft talk, bring on whatever you want.

He was great tonight and he will bring his team to the repeat.


I wonder if Dirk could play like that against the Warriors? I think that is what Barkley was talking about in the playoffs last year ;)

I thought Duncan played pretty darn good tonight even with some questionable calls. TD's D could have been better though, but maybe that knock on the side of the knee from last night was still a little sore tonight.

[ChumpDumper]

Let's trade Michael Finley, Ime Udoka, and Jacque Vaughn for Stephen Jackson.
Let's quit living in the past.

[2centsworth]

You know me too well. And that wasn't a pretty edning.

WHY ARE YOU LEAVING SJAX :madrun:
because Teddy Pendergrass was killing us and Manu was sagging. SJAX was off up until that point. Nevertheless, for the Spurs to be great they need their Defensive stopper to play great.

[Ice009]

And we never won again....


I'm not saying Barry hasn't contributed to the Champiionships cause he has, but what I am saying is would Nocioni or Sjax have contributed more? would they be more valuable to us right now? Maybe Pop found a leftover blunt from when Sjax was still here and thought Barry was the white Stephen Jackson.

[Kori Ellis]

Yes that's what I meant Ploto thanks for correcting me.

1 Sjax
2 Nocioni
3 Barry

I have no idea why the Spurs went after Barry as their number one choice. I didn't agree with it then and still don't agree with it now. The funny thing is Nocioni would have been cheaper than Barry.

They offered SJax money as a starting point of negotiations. His agent chose not to negotiate because he (Fegan) was greedy. That's the beginning and end of why SJax isn't here.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not saying Barry hasn't contributed to the Champiionships cause he has, but what I am saying is would Nocioni or Sjax have contributed more? would they be more valuable to us right now? Maybe Pop found a leftover blunt from when Sjax was still here and thought Barry was the white Stephen Jackson.I'm just not terribly interested in rehashing this over and over again whenever a former Spur has a good game.

Jack is gone.

He's never coming back.

[Ice009]

Nocioni? He wasn't ever going to be a spur...


Who says? I'm just saying that after the 2004 Olympics the Spurs could have went after him. Maybe the Spurs were interested? The just might not have wanted to offer him the cash with out seeing him play in the NBA. Chicago offered him the best deal, i'm sure Nocioni would have chosen the Spurs if they offered him the exact same deal 3m per year.

[ChumpDumper]

Who says? I'm just saying that after the 2004 Olympics the Spurs could have went after him. Maybe the Spurs were interested? The just might not have wanted to offer him the cash with out seeing him play in the NBA. Chicago offered him the best deal, i'm sure Nocioni would have chosen the Spurs if they offered him the exact same deal 3m per year.Wasn't he a restricted free agent? Wouldn't Chicago just have matched?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Tim had a good statistical game but he had mental errors on the defensive end and that one where he went for the steal and let Jackson turn around and lay it in was probably the biggest mental blunder I've seen Duncan make this season.....it was absolutely inexcusable
he also was turning it over by allowing people to swipe the ball again

however
mad props on his free throw shooting

[Ice009]

Wasn't he a restricted free agent? Wouldn't Chicago just have matched?


That's when Nocioni came into the NBA. He needed a decent contract to come over to pay his buyout which I think turned out to be a 9 million 3 year deal. Spurs paid Barry more than that. I don't even know if the Spurs were interested in him at all back then, but the should have been after seeing him in the 2004 Olympics.

[ChumpDumper]

That's when Nocioni came into the NBA. He needed a decent contract to come over to pay his buyout which I think turned out to be a 9 million 3 year deal. Spurs paid Barry more than that. I don't even know if the Spurs were interested in him at all back then, but the should have been after seeing him in the 2004 Olympics.Oh -- then.

I care so little about it, I don't remember.

[Ice009]

I'm just not terribly interested in rehashing this over and over again whenever a former Spur has a good game.

Jack is gone.

He's never coming back.


Yeah I'll shut up about it now. I just get mad when he does this to us. Everyone on this team that played with Sjax should know not to freaking leave him open though.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah I'll shut up about it now. I just get mad when he does this to us. Everyone on this team that played with Sjax should know not to freaking leave him open though.I'm sure Manu was told to double off him. Not a good tactic IMO.

[Ice009]

I'm sure Manu was told to double off him. Not a good tactic IMO.


Yeah that could be the case, but like you said not a very smart tactic at all. I hope Pop didn't come up with that one cause Sjax taught him a lesson.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah that could be the case, but like you said not a very smart tactic at all. I hope Pop didn't come up with that one cause Sjax taught him a lesson.It's the regular season. They'll see what worked and go from there.

[Ice009]

yeah, I think it's almost time to start looking at our defense now cause that's been downright awful at times. What do we do about getting some blocked shots and causing some intimidation? I think we only had 2 blocks tonight. Is it time to give Elson another shot?

[ludda]

We're not going to win games ala Suns and Warriors by just engaging in a shooting contest, we need to get back to our D.

[1Parker1]

:lol The Nuggets vs Suns game ended up being something like 120-137 (suns win)....and that was the final boxscore without OT!

[1Parker1]

Also, it's kind of scary just how good the Western Conference is this year....last year's 7th and 8th seeds have a chance to win 50+ games this season...not to mention the emergence of surprise teams like the Blazers and Hornets who are playing really well. Anyway you stack it, it's going to be a tough road just to get out of the Western Conference. Meanwhile, for all the talk of the East being tough now that the Celtics are good again...there remains only 2 legit contenders in the East (3 if you possibly want to throw in the Cavs). After that, the rest of the Eastern Conference playoff teams are again a joke.

[fred33]

4th game in 5 days DON5T BLAME THE SPURS

[Budkin]

4th game in 5 days DON5T BLAME THE SPURS

The fact that they were able to bounce back and almost win it impresses me considering the b2b fatigue.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I'm sure Manu was told to double off him. Not a good tactic IMO.
On one of the possessions, Manu doubled off Jax , and the other player, was slow to rotate on Jax, he clanked it on that one, but it was pretty blatant.

Anyway, we lost this game because we all had poor defensive stretches, individually for everyone. But the Warriors were just doing their thing, so whatever. Just another regular season game.

[Obstructed_View]

Who on the Warriors are the Spurs leaving Jack to double team?

[Manu_Ginobili]

I wonder WHY we lost the game? Our old players cloudn't stay in their legs in the OT...This year we take Dallas's role and LOST already 2 times against Golden State - Elson was perfect to play in this game - he could run, he was fresh, and the Spurs could've drilled GS's defense on the middle by going through the center - the problem is Pop was playing ONLY Timmy at the center - he benched Oberto, who is playing him only 13 minutes per game - so, Oberto doesn't perform...Elson was on bench as well and played ZERO minutes again (!!!) - so there you go again - we are playing WITHOUT CENTERS (the same way we lost from Dallas 3-4 in the Playoffs), and the defense in the middle is NOT working properly (Horry is too old to do what Elson and Oberto can...)...When you look at the stats - when Timmy, Tony and Manu score in double digits, the Spurs should win, right? But, because Pop is playing WITHOUT CENTERS-BIGS, NOBODY could close the PAINT and could block shots - it is too much work for Timmy to work on both ends, who has to score, gets rebounds, and play in both ends of the floor - something impossible to do - that is WHY we will keep LOSING when playing like this...The questions is HOW FAR this could go? I said before Popovich has tendency to do FOOLISH things after he wins Championships - THAT IS WHY HE COULDN'T REPEAT titles because he NEVER kept the system that gave him the success (while there is an argument that he couldn't keep some of his players before, this year he even kept all the players, but he is changing the system all the time - he benched elson and Oberto!). His problem is - he gets 'off balance' too easy - Elson irritated him somehow, now he sits, and we suffer the consequences from that(???);

THE SPURS ARE CURRENTLY a .500 team - win one and lose one...By that said, if they keep the current system to play "WITHOUT CENTERS", they WILL NOT REPEAT...Horry is NOT the same as before to help timmy in the end of games - Oberto played very well in the Playoffs last year - he deserves to start - Elson showed some good signs as well - he blocked the "game winning" attempt at ATT centers against Dallas this year...

[Kori Ellis]

I wonder WHY we lost the game? Our old players cloudn't stay in their legs in the OT...This year we take Dallas's role and LOST already 2 times against Golden State - Elson was perfect to play in this game - he could run, he was fresh, and the Spurs could've drilled GS's defense on the middle by going through the center - the problem is Pop was playing ONLY Timmy at the center - he benched Oberto, who is playing him only 13 minutes per game - so, Oberto doesn't perform...Elson was on bench as well and played ZERO minutes again (!!!) - so there you go again - we are playing WITHOUT CENTERS (the same way we lost from Dallas 3-4 in the Playoffs), and the defense in the middle is NOT working properly (Horry is too old to do what Elson and Oberto can...)...When you look at the stats - when Timmy, Tony and Manu score in double digits, the Spurs should win, right? But, because Pop is playing WITHOUT CENTERS-BIGS, NOBODY could close the PAINT and could block shots - it is too much work for Timmy to work on both ends, who has to score, gets rebounds, and play in both ends of the floor - something impossible to do - that is WHY we will keep LOSING when playing like this...The questions is HOW FAR this could go? I said before Popovich has tendency to do FOOLISH things after he wins Championships - THAT IS WHY HE COULDN'T REPEAT titles because he NEVER kept the system that gave him the success (while there is an argument that he couldn't keep some of his players before, this year he even kept all the players, but he is changing the system all the time - he benched elson and Oberto!). His problem is - he gets 'off balance' too easy - Elson irritated him somehow, now he sits, and we suffer the consequences from that(???);

THE SPURS ARE CURRENTLY a .500 team - win one and lose one...By that said, if they keep the current system to play "WITHOUT CENTERS", they WILL NOT REPEAT...Horry is NOT the same as before to help timmy in the end of games - Oberto played very well in the Playoffs last year - he deserves to start - Elson showed some good signs as well - he blocked the "game winning" attempt at ATT centers against Dallas this year...

How many threads did you post the exact same thing? :wtf

[m33p0]

it was a good test of the spurs' smallball ability without really sacrificing anything except a loss. if this was how pop wanted the lineup to really look like in the playoffs, he would have been pissed already. but he's not.

[SpursFan0728]

the lack of effort performed by Horry pisses me off a lot. Even though i know he will be great in the playoffs, he still needs to show up for regular season games.

[spursfan09]

4th game in 5 days DON5T BLAME THE SPURS

Wow you actually posted in a thread that wasn't about just Tony and EVa

[DazedAndConfused]

I think Horry is done.

[T Park]

Yeah cause Horry always plays stellar in january.

I said it last year and I'll say it again.

Horry will get minutes in the playoffs, and will play well.

He will knock down series winning shots again like he did last year.

[LEONARD]

The Warriors got more calls in their favor than Dallas usually does. Pathetic.

You take being a whiny, excuse making bitch to never before seen levels...

[Obstructed_View]

I hated when the officials told the Spurs that they had to stop playing defense. That's so unfair.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

When the big 3 ALL have very good games and still lose, the roster needs to be shaken up

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

No, not really.

[jay014]

Let me guess Bonner and Elson for Scola.

[it's me]

Stephen Jackson, SF 17 2-9 1-4 0-0 0 1 1 2 1 0 2 1 5
Baron Davis, PG 14 1-6 1-2 1-2 0 1 1 1 0 0 2 3 4

today against the Blazers :smchode:

[dav4463]

This team always makes the fans worry a little bit before they start putting it together. I was real worried last year, but didn't give up hope.....and we got another championship!