Nbadan: 10 Predictions for 2005

[Nbadan]

Here are Nbadan's Predictions for 2005

1. Gas Prices - Gas prices will continue to fluctuate between 1.50 and 2.00 per gallon, but a short-term crisis could raise the price of oil to close to 3.00-4.00 per gallon in some parts of the country. It will be a harsh winter in the East with home heating costs eating up much of people's expendable income. Some will perish from trying to save money on heating costs in freezing temperatures. Some businesses and government buildings will be forced to close to conserve electricity and heating oil. Old man winter will bring the NE to a virtual standstill for days and it will be difficult to meet the demand of heating costs. For some reason, I'm seeing the Ohio region to be especially susceptible for a catastrophe.

The demand for oil from India's and China's growing infrastructure will continue forcing gas prices to increase dramatically by the end of the year. Expect to be paying 2.00 average if not more. The oil wars of Afghanistan and Iraq will spread to more countries surrounding the Caspian Sea region, including likely Iran. A successful terrorist attack on Saudi Arabia's oil infrastructure could be the catalyst that sends oil prices souring.

2. Guantanamo Bay - The abuse and torture that has been hidden at the U.S. base will continue to be exposed and the administration will continue to take the brunt of the blame with a "wink and a nod" approach blaming rouge soldiers and lower level commanders who took orders to extremes. Ultimately, the torture that has gone on at Guantanamo bay will make Abu Gharib seem mild in comparison. World courts could take Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and other members of W's cabinet to trial for war crimes in absentee. There could ultimately be warrants out for members of this administration that forces them to stay in the U.S. for fear of being arrested and extradited to the Hague.

3. More Hurricanes, Earthquakes and Tsunamis - While what has happened in Sri Lanka, Indonesia, and other parts of that region this past week is a great tragedy, I'm afraid that this is just the beginning of deadly earth changes that will spawn increasingly ferocious hurricanes, volcanoes, earthquakes and even tsunamis throughout 2005. Hurricane season will come back with a fury in 2005 and once again Florida will bear the brunt of the destruction, but Gulf coastal cities won't be speared this time. Expect either New Orleans, Galveston-Houston, or some part of the Texas coast to suffer a major storm with major damage.

4. Iraq - The elections will go off as planned if only because the current administration says they must, but there will be widespread violence that keeps millions of voters away from the polls. Sunni's will not vote giving much of the ruling power in Iraq to Shiite and Kurd and helping to propel Sunni controlled areas into chaos at the Sunni thought of being controlled Shiites. The U.S. will ultimately withdraw from Sunni controlled areas in Iraq, but that won't happen until the U.S. loses thousands more men to the failed coalition war effort. Instead of conceding defeat, W will ultimately declare the war a strategic victory while calling the less-than-full election in Iraq a complete success in his plan to 'plant the seeds of democracy in the Middle East".

The Kurds will seek autonomy from the rest of Iraq, but that will be quickly scuttled by the White House. Reconstruction of Iraq's infrastructure will continue at a snails pace as the insurgency continues to grow. By the end of the year there will be 10x's the number of insurgents there are today as coalition forces continue to draw more moderate Arabs in the fray.

5. Eli Lilly & Company-Gate - The F.D.A. under the current administration has become more of a rubber stamp agency for the pharmaceutical companies rather than a governmental regulatory agency that's supposed to protect the people, thanks in large part to the industries large campaign donations to Republican causes and W's Presidential campaign. FDA rubber-stamped drugs like Vioxx causes heart problems, Celebrix and Prozac are under the publicity gun after a number of deaths, and to make matters even more interesting, Micheal Moore is planning to shine a light on the administrations corrupt relationship with drug makers in his next film tentatively titled - Fahrenheit 911 1/2.

6. Mad Cow Disease (BSE) Found In U.S. Cattle - With two confirmed cases of mad cow disease in Canadian cattle now being admitted too, meat that may have been inadvertently sold in U.S. markets, it's no longer a matter of when Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) will infect U.S. cattle, but how bad the chronic degenerative disorder gets before the public is notified that we may have a problem. Thousands of cattle may have to be sacraficed by a industry that will do whatever is necessary to regulate and save itself.

7. Military Conscription Begins in Summer of 05 - Those of you who have read my past posts already know that this is a prediction I have seen coming in 05 for more than 2 years, and considering the dubious, current situation in Iraq, I have no doubt that we are only a few months away from mobilizing local draft boards and the full reinstatement of military conscription beginning with 20 year olds. Unfortunately, this may be proceeded by a devastating terrorist attack on American Naval forces, possibly in the Persian Gulf or out in open water, and possibly involving a silk-worm type missile or torpedo. This attack will be all the justification that the administration needs to mobilize American forces after the unprecedented attack is pinned on either Iran, North Korea, or Syria by the NeoCon controlled, new-and-improved C.I.A..

(to be concluded tomarrow)....

[Clandestino]

1. gas prices... 10-15 years ago we were paying an average on 1.10-1.20... how the hell could we expect to be paying that same amount now?

2. members of the bush cabinet being tried in absentia, not being allowed to travel around the world... wtf are you smoking??? will NEVER happen...

3. it's very likely... we'll hope that is doesn't happen though..

4. i think we'll see a huge number of iraqis go to the polls..the elections i'm sure will have a few terrorist acts... they will not be as peaceful as the afghani elections a few months ago. they will go ahead as planned.

remember, the iraqi people want a free and peaceful country...it is the foreign terrorists and saddam supporters who lost everything that are doing all the damage. it is not the regular iraqi citizens...

[Hook Dem]

5. For some strange reason, Dan has dissappeared from the forum and readers are no longer subjected to his daily loom and gloom. Scientists are at a loss to explain this strange phenomon but attribute it to the recent tsunamis. Since the earthquake, Dan has shifted 20 meters to the "right" and has tilted on his axis or at least wobbled a little. This is strange indeed. Who woulda thought? There are rumors abound that he will appear again one day and it will be called the second coming of the "biased apostle". Since his time in exile, he lost approximately 250 pounds and is just a shell of the spouter he used to be. So let it be written. So let it be! :lol

[Hook Dem]

bump

[gophergeorge]

I predict that Bucky E. Katt will get his ass kicked by the Ferret, a monkey, or both.

[Nbadan]

(Updated)

[Clandestino]

5. the FDA is currently the most restrictive governmental agency of its sort. that is why many people go overseas once drugs in the u.s don't work.

6. BSE spreading is a fact of global business. it is not as dangerous as it seems either. It has been in europe for quite some time now and not everyone in europe has bse. as long as you don't eat anything from the spinal cord or brain you can safely eat a cow that has mad cow disease.

7. not going to happen. we have so many people signing up that the military doesn't even want people with GEDs. The military only provides a small number of waivers for GEDs per recruiting area. If they are being so selective then the draft is far off.

[Yonivore]

5. For some strange reason, Dan has dissappeared from the forum and readers are no longer subjected to his daily loom and gloom. Scientists are at a loss to explain this strange phenomon but attribute it to the recent tsunamis. Since the earthquake, Dan has shifted 20 meters to the "right" and has tilted on his axis or at least wobbled a little. This is strange indeed. Who woulda thought? There are rumors abound that he will appear again one day and it will be called the second coming of the "biased apostle". Since his time in exile, he lost approximately 250 pounds and is just a shell of the spouter he used to be. So let it be written. So let it be! :lol
This has already come to pass in Yoni-world.


Today 04:04 AM
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See?

[MannyIsGod]

Bump.

If you want to be a little bitch with RG's predictions I wonder why you never bumped this shittastic set?

[MannyIsGod]

Also fuck face, you can't count. 7 =! 10.

[MannyIsGod]

Also, before anyone gives him even partial credit for #3 - you don't get to say that some part of Florida or the Gulf Coast will experience a Hurricane during Hurricane season and count it as a correct prediction unless I get to predict that the sky will be blue and count it.

[TeyshaBlue]

I predict a presidential election within the next 4 years!

[TeyshaBlue]

Furthermore, the candidate elected will be either a Democrat or a Republican.

Book it.

[Blake]

Furthermore, the candidate elected will be either a Democrat or a Republican.

Book it.

I predict someone on a messageboard somewhere will bitch about the winner for 4 years.

[Nbadan]

Bump.

If you want to be a little bitch with RG's predictions I wonder why you never bumped this shittastic set?

I was right on almost every prediction, but I don't expect a monkey like you to actually do some research before slipping on your banana...

[Nbadan]

Also, before anyone gives him even partial credit for #3 - you don't get to say that some part of Florida or the Gulf Coast will experience a Hurricane during Hurricane season and count it as a correct prediction unless I get to predict that the sky will be blue and count it.

:rolleyes

You would have a point if Galveston and New Orleans had not been obliterated by Rita and Katrina respectively....do you do any research...I told exactly which cities would get hit more than 6 months before they got hit....your not to good at this, are you?

[Nbadan]

but Gulf coastal cities won't be speared this time. Expect either New Orleans, Galveston-Houston, or some part of the Texas coast to suffer a major storm with major damage.

How many years since 05 have both TX and New Orleans been hit by powerful storms in the same year.....your a joke....

[Nbadan]

3.00-4.00 per gallon in some parts of the country.

http://www.wtrg.com/gasoline/graphs/Mgtt_us.gif

:sleep

[Nbadan]

DA rubber-stamped drugs like Vioxx causes heart problems, Celebrix and Prozac are under the publicity gun after a number of deaths


n 2005 Eli Lilly and Co. agreed to plead guilty to a federal misdemeanor and pay $36 million to settle charges that it illegally marketed and promoted its Evista osteoporosis drug for two unapproved uses.

wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Lilly_controversies)

You get the gist....No need to continue....making Manny look stupid is too easy...

[Nbadan]

Furthermore, the candidate elected will be either a Democrat or a Republican.

Book it.

I get it...this is Kinda like RG's prediction that oil prices will go up

Duh!

:lol

[MannyIsGod]

How many years since 05 have both TX and New Orleans been hit by powerful storms in the same year.....your a joke....

Do you know what the word OR means? Here's a hint, it doesn't equal AND.

[MannyIsGod]

BTW how many more huge tsunamis did we have in 05? How did that draft go?

[MannyIsGod]

How did predictions 8,9, and 10 go? :lmao

[MannyIsGod]

:rolleyes

You would have a point if Galveston and New Orleans had not been obliterated by Rita and Katrina respectively....do you do any research...I told exactly which cities would get hit more than 6 months before they got hit....your not to good at this, are you?

:lmao


Rita didn't hit Galveston much less obliterate it.

http://www.ritaimages.com/photos/d/274-4/Hurricane+Rita+Track

No wonder your predictions suck. 6 years after the fact you don't even know what happens, how the fuck are you going to know beforehand?!??!!?!?!?!?

:lmao

[MannyIsGod]

Galveston -- Two historic residences and a commercial building burned. One building destroyed. A restaurant wall collapsed. Wind blew off the roof of a multi-story hotel downtown. The Galveston Daily News, which lost part of its roof, reports that a woman was severely burned and a firefighter received a minor eye injury.

http://articles.cnn.com/2005-09-24/us/rita.assess_1_wind-damage-water-damage-roof-damage?_s=PM:US

Holy shit talk about obliterated!!!!!!

Dumb ass, the hurricane you're thinking about is Ike. It happened in 2008.

[MannyIsGod]

Furthermore, the candidate elected will be either a Democrat or a Republican.

Book it.

According to Dan's English you just predicted both a Dem and Republican will win the presidency.

[MannyIsGod]

wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Lilly_controversies)

You get the gist....No need to continue....making Manny look stupid is too easy...

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

I was right on almost every prediction:lol

[TeyshaBlue]

:lmao


Rita didn't hit Galveston much less obliterate it.

http://www.ritaimages.com/photos/d/274-4/Hurricane+Rita+Track

No wonder your predictions suck. 6 years after the fact you don't even know what happens, how the fuck are you going to know beforehand?!??!!?!?!?!?

:lmao

http://www.audioandanarchy.com/images/smilies/fack.png

[Blake]

6. Mad Cow Disease (BSE) Found In U.S. Cattle - With two confirmed cases of mad cow disease in Canadian cattle now being admitted too, meat that may have been inadvertently sold in U.S. markets, it's no longer a matter of when Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) will infect U.S. cattle, but how bad the chronic degenerative disorder gets before the public is notified that we may have a problem. Thousands of cattle may have to be sacraficed by a industry that will do whatever is necessary to regulate and save itself.



was the public ever notified of this problem?

[coyotes_geek]

I was right on almost every prediction

Thank you for taking time away from your conscripted service in Iraq to point this out.

[Nbadan]

was the public ever notified of this problem?

Of course not...it was all kept quiet by the cattle industry and thousands of cows were destroyed to cover up the plague? end of problem right? right?

[Nbadan]

Thank you for taking time away from your conscripted service in Iraq to point this out.

Talk to the thousands of soldiers who did their time in combat duty but had to stay in Iraq or Afghanistan, away from their families and in harm's way....do you even care about the military or are they just a political tool for you when convenient?

[coyotes_geek]

Talk to the thousands of soldiers who did their time in combat duty but had to stay in Iraq or Afghanistan, away from their families and in harm's way....do you even care about the military or are they just a political tool for you when convenient?

How many of those soldiers were/are conscriptions?

Nice strawman BTW.......

[Nbadan]

You are conscripted when you are forced into a combat zone beyond the obligation that you originally agreed for, soldier or not....

[TeyshaBlue]

Of course not...it was all kept quiet by the cattle industry and thousands of cows were destroyed to cover up the plague? end of problem right? right?

Ah yes. The Vast Cow Wing Conspiracy.

[Blake]

Of course not...it was all kept quiet by the cattle industry and thousands of cows were destroyed to cover up the plague? end of problem right? right?

is there still a problem?

has anyone been diagnosed with BSE in these last 5-6 years?

[Blake]

Ah yes. The Vast Cow Wing Conspiracy.

:lol

sounds like something from The Far Side

[TeyshaBlue]

:lol

sounds like something from The Far Side

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1i1bOvWWg7I/TGr61COR6ZI/AAAAAAAAA5Y/Is3mF0_JJ0E/s1600/FarSideCownCar.gif

[coyotes_geek]

You are conscripted when you are forced into a combat zone beyond the obligation that you originally agreed for, soldier or not....

First, this is clearly not the situation you were talking about in your original prediction. Your request to move the goal posts is hereby denied.

Second, "solider or not" makes a world of difference. Soldiers signed enlistment papers that explained "stop loss" to them when they volunteered. That's a completely different scenario than someone who has no interest in volunteering to serve getting conscripted into service.

[Nbadan]

Can't find something we don't test for (appropriately) now can we...


The surveillance program has been a source of controversy in areas related to testing protocol, announcement of inconclusive results, and an incident in Texas in May 2004 in which an animal exhibiting central nervous system symptoms was not tested for the disease. Inconclusive (or false positive) test results are expected with the Bio-Rad rapid screening test used by USDA. The false positive rate is variously estimated at between one in 50,000 to as little as one in 300,000 tests. Thus far, the USDA has announced three inconclusive results—two in June 2004 and one in November 2004—all of which, upon confirmatory testing using immunohistochemistry (IHC), were found to be negative. The initial announcements of inconclusive cases were controversial and led the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) to revise their announcement procedure—delaying announcement until a sample produced two inconclusive results with the rapid test. Concern about potential market disruption due to false positives is one reason cited by opponents of wider scale or voluntary testing. For example, following the announcement of the third inconclusive test result on the morning of November 18, 2004, most live cattle futures contracts opened around $2/cwt lower than the previous day's close, and many moved limit down that day. Very light sales in the cash market in the following days were likely the short-run cash market reaction to the news.

At the same time, there has been speculation that the USDA deliberately chose a test with a relatively high rate of inconclusive results as a means of desensitizing markets to the possible discovery of true positive cases (Mitchell, 2004). Also controversial is the USDA's choice of IHC as their "gold standard" test. In February 2005, Consumers Union called on the USDA to retest inconclusive samples using the Western Blot test, which, they argued, was more sensitive and more objective. According to the Consumers Union, the Western Blot test is used as the confirmatory test in Japan and Europe and had been used previously by the USDA to confirm the December 2003 Washington State case. (See Pruisner, 2004, for more information on BSE testing.)

The future of the surveillance program has not yet been decided. Industry officials have called for it to be scaled back. Not surprisingly, some consumer advocacy groups favor wider scale testing. For example, a March 16, 2005 editorial in The New York Times proposed that "the only responsible way to resume international trade in beef is to ensure the health of the cattle. And the only way to do that is to test the cattle—all of them, if need be."

In what turned out to be a particularly thorny issue for the USDA, in July 2004 the agency denied an application by a small Kansas beef processor, Creekstone Farms, for permission to voluntarily test slaughter cattle in an attempt to regain access to the Japanese export market. The beef industry is sharply divided on the issue of voluntary testing. Proponents tend to view it in terms of a marketing decision with expected benefits outweighing costs, at least in the short run. Indeed, our analysis for the Kansas Department of Agriculture (Coffey et al., 2005) suggests a potential net benefit ranging from $27.50 to $48.50 per head (before fixed costs) if voluntary testing restored full access to the Japanese and South Korean markets. Opponents argue that BSE testing is unnecessary and costly, that it sets a dangerous precedent in terms of acquiescing to an unreasonable customer demand, and that it is not scientifically valid and provides no risk-reduction benefit to consumers. Large US meat processor stances regarding BSE testing suggest that the investments and logistics of large-scale testing, in addition to the potential impact on demand of a positive case, are such that it is a losing proposition for bigger firms—perhaps in particular for those diversified either internationally or across meat products. For a single small firm, on the other hand—especially one more heavily reliant on export sales to high-quality foreign markets than the major packers—the situation is different. If voluntary testing provided export market access, it could produce substantial monopoly-type benefits in the short run. Creekstone officials have stated that their increased revenue from regaining access to the Japanese market would far exceed the testing cost of $20 or less per head. Thus, for Creekstone, the private incentive to pursue testing was fairly clear. It is worth noting however, that this scenario would produce no benefit for producers, because increased demand from a single small firm would have a negligible impact on cattle prices. However, if testing did provide market access, more firms would be attracted to testing, and domestic cattle prices would increase.

Finally, regarding the current surveillance effort, it is not yet clear how successful the USDA has been in its efforts to sample the targeted high-risk groups. The APHIS website provides no breakdown of samples by animal categories (Table 1), in contrast to the UK, where detailed breakdowns for various risk categories in the active surveillance programs are provided (Table 2). Clearly, no one associated with the US beef industry wants to find this disease. However, the perception that officials may have latitude in terms of sample selection, rumors about animals not sampled, and allegations by at least one former USDA employee about the mishandling of potentially positive test samples, does not help engender confidence among foreign buyers or policy decision makers. Critics have commented that Germany did not begin to find BSE until it allowed private testing. If the disease is truly not present in the US herd, then the industry has little to fear from allowing expanded private testing. However, what are the odds that the surveillance program in place during 2003 managed to detect the only BSE-infected cow in a herd of 100 million?

as far as its effect on humans...ever hear of Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease?

[TeyshaBlue]

Got a link instead of a cut-n-paste?

[Nbadan]

it's all wiki....sorry...

[TeyshaBlue]

When I wiki Mad Cow Disease, I get very little.:depressed


Mad cow disease
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Cow with mad cow disease, unable to stand and trying to dig a hole
Mad cow disease is the common name of Bovine spongiform encephalopathy. It's a disease that affects a cow's nervous system. It comes from the chemistry structure of prion protein. When cattle get this disease, they have holes forming in their brains. The brain becomes spongy and begins to waste away. The cattle become very violent and show signs of mental disorder and have trouble when they move. It has a long incubation period, about 4~5 years. Cattle that are 4~5 years old can get the disease very easily.
It was not a common disease, but in 1996 the Minister of Health and Welfare in England said that it could be contracted by humans. Mad cow disease has damaged the cattle industry. Some food was made from cattle that had the disease. In the England, the nation that worst affected, more than 179,000 cattle were infected and 4.4 million were killed in an attempt to get rid of the disease.
[change]Korea

Last year, Korean President Lee's negotiations about the import of beef from the USA made the public angry. Many people went to the square in front of city hall and protested. It caused a lot of trouble, and the approval rating of the president sharply decreased. The government is working hard to protect people from the disease.

[Blake]

Can't find something we don't test for (appropriately) now can we...

is it because the date is old that you didn't source your info?

lol 2005

http://www.choicesmagazine.org/2005-2/safety/2005-2-03.htm

do you have anything more recent?


as far as its effect on humans...ever hear of Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease?

vaguely.

how many people have acquired CJD from a cow?

[DMX7]

What a doozy this thread is. :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

is it because the date is old that you didn't source your info?

lol 2005

http://www.choicesmagazine.org/2005-2/safety/2005-2-03.htm

do you have anything more recent?



vaguely.

how many people have acquired CJD from a cow?

Wiki, huh? http://www.audioandanarchy.com/images/smilies/fack.png

[Blake]

Wiki, huh? http://www.audioandanarchy.com/images/smilies/fack.png

what's even better is that the conclusion in Dan's source is as follows:


Beef, like any other food, is not and never can be 100% risk free. However, today's salient risk is not mad cow disease.

good thread. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

6. Mad Cow Disease (BSE) Found In U.S. Cattle - With two confirmed cases of mad cow disease in Canadian cattle now being admitted too, meat that may have been inadvertently sold in U.S. markets, it's no longer a matter of when Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) will infect U.S. cattle, but how bad the chronic degenerative disorder gets before the public is notified that we may have a problem. Thousands of cattle may have to be sacraficed by a industry that will do whatever is necessary to regulate and save itself.As of June 2008, the total number of vCJD cases identified in residents of the United States is three; all of which were epidemiologically linked to likely exposures to cattle products contaminated with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE, commonly known as “mad cow disease”)while residing in the United Kingdom (2 cases) or Saudi Arabia (1 case).

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/vcjd/other/News_06122008.htm

vCJD was identified in 1996.

[TeyshaBlue]

As of June 2008, the total number of vCJD cases identified in residents of the United States is three; all of which were epidemiologically linked to likely exposures to cattle products contaminated with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE, commonly known as “mad cow disease”)while residing in the United Kingdom (2 cases) or Saudi Arabia (1 case).

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/vcjd/other/News_06122008.htm

vCJD was identified in 1996.

This was likely covered up by the VCWC.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

Pathologically incapable of being wrong.

[TeyshaBlue]

:lmao

Pathologically incapable of being wrong.

There's gotta be a cure for this. Maybe two cups of stfu before bedtime?:lol

[RandomGuy]

Ah yes. The Vast Cow Wing Conspiracy.

:rollin

[RandomGuy]

Here are Nbadan's Predictions for 2005

1. Gas Prices - Gas prices will continue to fluctuate between 1.50 and 2.00 per gallon, but a short-term crisis could raise the price of oil to close to 3.00-4.00 per gallon in some parts of the country. It will be a harsh winter in the East with home heating costs eating up much of people's expendable income. Some will perish from trying to save money on heating costs in freezing temperatures. Some businesses and government buildings will be forced to close to conserve electricity and heating oil. Old man winter will bring the NE to a virtual standstill for days and it will be difficult to meet the demand of heating costs. For some reason, I'm seeing the Ohio region to be especially susceptible for a catastrophe.

Cold in the Northeast during the winter. Shocking

The demand for oil from India's and China's growing infrastructure will continue forcing gas prices to increase dramatically by the end of the year. Expect to be paying 2.00 average if not more.

Spot on.

The oil wars of Afghanistan and Iraq will spread to more countries surrounding the Caspian Sea region, including likely Iran.Pretty solid prediction that failed.
A successful terrorist attack on Saudi Arabia's oil infrastructure could be the catalyst that sends oil prices souring. Could be, but didn't happen either.

2. Guantanamo Bay - The abuse and torture that has been hidden at the U.S. base will continue to be exposed and the administration will continue to take the brunt of the blame with a "wink and a nod" approach blaming rouge soldiers and lower level commanders who took orders to extremes. Ultimately, the torture that has gone on at Guantanamo bay will make Abu Gharib seem mild in comparison.
Nope. Not even close.

World courts could take Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and other members of W's cabinet to trial for war crimes in absentee. There could ultimately be warrants out for members of this administration that forces them to stay in the U.S. for fear of being arrested and extradited to the Hague.
I see a lot of "could" that didn't happen here either.


3. More Hurricanes, Earthquakes and Tsunamis - While what has happened in Sri Lanka, Indonesia, and other parts of that region this past week is a great tragedy, I'm afraid that this is just the beginning of deadly earth changes that will spawn increasingly ferocious hurricanes, volcanoes, earthquakes and even tsunamis throughout 2005. Hurricane season will come back with a fury in 2005 and once again Florida will bear the brunt of the destruction, but Gulf coastal cities won't be speared this time. Expect either New Orleans, Galveston-Houston, or some part of the Texas coast to suffer a major storm with major damage.

Hurricaines hitting the US? More shocking.

4. Iraq - The elections will go off as planned if only because the current administration says they must, but there will be widespread violence that keeps millions of voters away from the polls. Sunni's will not vote giving much of the ruling power in Iraq to Shiite and Kurd and helping to propel Sunni controlled areas into chaos at the Sunni thought of being controlled Shiites. The U.S. will ultimately withdraw from Sunni controlled areas in Iraq, but that won't happen until the U.S. loses thousands more men to the failed coalition war effort. Instead of conceding defeat, W will ultimately declare the war a strategic victory while calling the less-than-full election in Iraq a complete success in his plan to 'plant the seeds of democracy in the Middle East".

The Kurds will seek autonomy from the rest of Iraq, but that will be quickly scuttled by the White House. Reconstruction of Iraq's infrastructure will continue at a snails pace as the insurgency continues to grow. By the end of the year there will be 10x's the number of insurgents there are today as coalition forces continue to draw more moderate Arabs in the fray.

Some good, some really off. Took several more years to develop, and the Awakening and revamping of strategy in 2006/-07 and the Surge kinda made sure the doom and gloom didn't quite pan out.

5. Eli Lilly & Company-Gate - The F.D.A. under the current administration has become more of a rubber stamp agency for the pharmaceutical companies rather than a governmental regulatory agency that's supposed to protect the people, thanks in large part to the industries large campaign donations to Republican causes and W's Presidential campaign. FDA rubber-stamped drugs like Vioxx causes heart problems, Celebrix and Prozac are under the publicity gun after a number of deaths, and to make matters even more interesting, Micheal Moore is planning to shine a light on the administrations corrupt relationship with drug makers in his next film tentatively titled - Fahrenheit 911 1/2.

Some shit has gone down, mildly true, but hardly a full-blown scandal of epic proportion. Still, I will give this one to ya.

6. Mad Cow Disease (BSE) Found In U.S. Cattle - With two confirmed cases of mad cow disease in Canadian cattle now being admitted too, meat that may have been inadvertently sold in U.S. markets, it's no longer a matter of when Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) will infect U.S. cattle, but how bad the chronic degenerative disorder gets before the public is notified that we may have a problem. Thousands of cattle may have to be sacraficed by a industry that will do whatever is necessary to regulate and save itself.

Nope. Didn't happen, that I could find.


7. Military Conscription Begins in Summer of 05 - Those of you who have read my past posts already know that this is a prediction I have seen coming in 05 for more than 2 years, and considering the dubious, current situation in Iraq, I have no doubt that we are only a few months away from mobilizing local draft boards and the full reinstatement of military conscription beginning with 20 year olds. Unfortunately, this may be proceeded by a devastating terrorist attack on American Naval forces, possibly in the Persian Gulf or out in open water, and possibly involving a silk-worm type missile or torpedo. This attack will be all the justification that the administration needs to mobilize American forces after the unprecedented attack is pinned on either Iran, North Korea, or Syria by the NeoCon controlled, new-and-improved C.I.A..

Waaaay wrong.

(to be concluded tomarrow)....

Seems like "I got it mostly right" is a bit of a stretch.

You got:

It gets cold in the winter.
There are hurricainnes and storms.
Gas prices go up.
Iraq was a problem.
Some drugs were found to be a bit more dangerous than we thought.

You missed:

The "oil wars" didn't spread to Iran.
Mandatory conscription.
Big mad cow outbreak requiring thousands and thousand of cows in the US to be put down.
The US will withdraw from "Sunni controlled" areas of Iraq in "defeat".

[RandomGuy]

That said, good for making some predictions.

I think we should all take our mindsets and viewpoints and do the same. See who has a better track record. Sure would make for a change from the usual shit here.

[Nbadan]

You missed:


The "oil wars" didn't spread to Iran.

Yes they have.....to this day we are 'secretly' funding paramilitary groups that continuously work to undermine the Iranian government and attack Iranian infrastructure and oil facilities...your just uninformed...if Iran did that to us, we'd cruise missile them...


Mandatory conscription.

only because the military started involuntary conscription among its troops....there was also economic conscription, or offering troops amounts from $10-$100k to resign and remain active duty during an economic recession, and also immigrant conscription, or offering immigrants a rapid path to citizenship of they fought for the U.S. in Iraq or Afghanistan..


Big mad cow outbreak requiring thousands and thousand of cows in the US to be put down.

your gonna have to dig hard for this one, but it did happen....


The US will withdraw from "Sunni controlled" areas of Iraq in "defeat".

That's exactly what happened when the U.S. built its embassy complex and hunkered down...many Sunni areas in Iraq became a combat no-man's land...

[ChumpDumper]

your gonna have to dig hard for this one, but it did happen....Show us.

[Nbadan]

is it because the date is old that you didn't source your info?

lol 2005

http://www.choicesmagazine.org/2005-2/safety/2005-2-03.htm

do you have anything more recent?

I'm just trying to present it in the filter of what we knew in 2005, not what we know today....I don't know anything about choice magazine, do you?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm just trying to present it in the filter of what we knew in 2005, not what we know today....I don't know anything about choice magazine, do you?You said it happened. Show us.

[mookie2001]

Chump when it comes to math, science and anything academic Dan owns you on the reg, we know this, historically. These are the things we know

[Winehole23]

That said, good for making some predictions.

I think we should all take our mindsets and viewpoints and do the same. See who has a better track record. Sure would make for a change from the usual shit here.A prediction sweepstakes?

:sleep

[MannyIsGod]

A prediction sweepstakes?

:sleep

Exactly. Predictions are meaningless unless there's a methodological reason for them. Tossing a whole bunch of of shit against the wall and then patting the person on the back who got some to stick sounds ridiculous to me.

That's pretty much what Dan did. Trying to prove that a specific city will get hit with a Hurricane months out doesn't prove you know anything about meteorology it actually proves the opposite. And then qualifying it with the entire gulf coast just makes it funny.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

But throwing shit against the wall is one of this forum's greatest pastimes

[ChumpDumper]

Chump when it comes to math, science and anything academic Dan owns you on the reg, we know this, historically. These are the things we knowIf that is true, then he can show me.

Should be easy for him.

[Winehole23]

But throwing shit against the wall is one of this forum's greatest pastimesIt always will be. Lame prognostications won't ever change that.

[Nbadan]

Prognostication has a lot to do with politics....if you don't have a visionary leader that can put things together, read the tea leaves so to say, instead of always going with the status-quo, a favorite to many of the current forum posters today, things will never get better...

...that's why I'm not entirely impressed with this new batch of thread starters....except for RG and at times....

Where's the vision? ....it's too easy to kick back and pooh-pooh over other people ideas...

(aka...chumpy and blakey, Mannyislost and Jsmith...)

[Wild Cobra]

When I wiki Mad Cow Disease, I get very little.
You mean it doesn't even show a picture of Denny Crane?

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao visionary leader

[Blake]

Where's the vision? ....it's too easy to kick back and pooh-pooh over other people ideas...


it's fun to pooh pooh on people that won't admit their prognostication is wrong even when it is blatantly obvious.

I predict you will get pooh poohed on again in similar fashion in 2011.

[Blake]

I'm just trying to present it in the filter of what we knew in 2005, not what we know today

What we know today is that you had crappy predictions in 2005.


....I don't know anything about choice magazine, do you?

No, but what i know about the magazine is irrelevant.

you not knowing about the source you referenced says volumes though.

[Nbadan]

:lmao visionary leader

...like I said, no vision...

:rolleyes

[Nbadan]

it's fun to pooh pooh on people that won't admit their prognostication is wrong even when it is blatantly obvious.

I predict you will get pooh poohed on again in similar fashion in 2011.

I dare you to make at least one prognostication about a world event that will happen between now and June 2012....just one.....common...


what will happen to the price of gas?
will the commodity bubble bust?
who will win the GOP nomination?
will the drought continue in SA? How much longer?

....like I said, no vision.

[mookie2001]

man in 7th grade, my friend got a playstation, and i thought to myself- woah this is great, but WHAT IF there was something even better than this??

a few years later, playstation 2 come out...

[Mavillionaire]

I see MannyIsFat was a dumbfuck back in 05', no reason to alter my prediction his fat ass will be just as dumb in 2012.

[Nbadan]

I see MannyIsFat was a dumbfuck back in 05', no reason to alter my prediction his fat ass will be just as dumb in 2012.

Somethings never change, otherwise, we'd all be Mavillionaires...

[ChumpDumper]

Who are you leading, dan?

[mookie2001]

this entire forum- he's still the best poster after 6-plus years, its not even close. he just keeps scarffing and scarffing. for power for average

tattwk

Dans like krs one, he will be here for ev er

and he doesn't last word people ^ see above

[ChumpDumper]

He just did.

He will again.

#leading visionarily

[mookie2001]

he's more broad than a individual like yourself, you may be that one chemistry prof who knows his shit, but dans like jared diamond

[mookie2001]

academically.

maybe marcus bryant could touch him with his degrees from a&m and texas, but he hasnt put in the hours

[ChumpDumper]

Eh, his hubris is his undoing.

Not uncommon around here.

[Blake]

I dare you to make at least one prognostication about a world event that will happen between now and June 2012....just one.....common...


common?


what will happen to the price of gas?

I'll say that the average price per gallon at the pumps next June will be less than $2.99.


will the commodity bubble bust?

before June 2012?

no


who will win the GOP nomination?

Rick Perry


will the drought continue in SA? How much longer?

I predict there will be rain before June 2012


....like I said, no vision.

In what ways did you show leadership through your vision(s) from 2005?

[TeyshaBlue]

This thread delivers the recommended daily allowance of delicious sauce. :tu

[TeyshaBlue]

And I'm changing my mind on the Perry thing....I think the dude might wield the big hammer if he chose to get into the race. He's a liar par excellence, which is apparently part of a critical skill set in today's politics.

[johnsmith]

Where's the vision? ....it's too easy to kick back and pooh-pooh over other people ideas...

(aka...chumpy and blakey, Mannyislost and Jsmith...)

I don't "pooh-pooh" (:rolleyes) your ideas for any other reason than I think you are absolutely delusional in the sense that you think posting here somehow matters to society.

And please don't ever make me type "pooh-pooh" again.

[johnsmith]

Also, good to see you're still thinking of me when I haven't posted here in well over a month.

[coyotes_geek]

I dare you to make at least one prognostication about a world event that will happen between now and June 2012....just one.....common...


what will happen to the price of gas?
will the commodity bubble bust?
who will win the GOP nomination?
will the drought continue in SA? How much longer?

....like I said, no vision.

Gas will stay above $3 for the next year. In June 2012 we'll be closer to $4/gal than $3.

No commodity bubble bust within the next year.

Rick Perry will get the GOP nomination.

SA will get more rain between June 2011-June 2012 than it did June 2010-June 2011.

[ChumpDumper]

Wait, we're getting too many visionary leaders here. How do I choose whom to follow?

Present your best case. I'll make my decision soon.

[RandomGuy]

But throwing shit against the wall is one of this forum's greatest pastimes

Darn tootin'. The person with the biggest bucket wins.

Or maybe has a Japanese scientist chasing them, saying "medium rare!" (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181891)

[RandomGuy]

Prognostication has a lot to do with politics....if you don't have a visionary leader that can put things together, read the tea leaves so to say, instead of always going with the status-quo, a favorite to many of the current forum posters today, things will never get better...

...that's why I'm not entirely impressed with this new batch of thread starters....except for RG and at times....

Where's the vision? ....it's too easy to kick back and pooh-pooh over other people ideas...

(aka...chumpy and blakey, Mannyislost and Jsmith...)

I know I am doing something right when people on both ends of the spectrum can agree with me at least some of the time. :lol

Otherwise, I might have to question my moderate/centrist cred.

[TeyshaBlue]

Wait, we're getting too many visionary leaders here. How do I choose whom to follow?

Present your best case. I'll make my decision soon.

I have the best wing recipe on the planet. That should be qualification enough.

[Nbadan]

wings? ...did you say wings? ........

seriously, the only thing that holds any of us back is our own lack of vision...

[ChumpDumper]

Holds us back from what?

[Leetonidas]

Wow. Over the years I've read a lot of stupid shit in here and sat idly by and laughed to . myself, but this is fucking too much. :lmao :lmao :lmao Dude is flat out WRONG on everything except predicting a hurricane would hit a Galveston or New Orleans (way to go out on a limb and suggest a town bordering the sea could get hit by a hurricane :wow ) and then tries to come in and twist his predictions and what they entail to make it seem like he was right. :lmao :lmao

That was awesome. Nice job on the 6 year bump Manny. :lmao

[Nbadan]

Holds us back from what?

When I see many of my friends from HS, many of them were smarter than me, had more potential than me, certainly better looking than me.....it's difficult to measure success from afar, but I have to say, I have accomplished and am accomplishing a lot in my life while others didn't...some had misfortune, that's for sure...but the way I see it, many just lacked vision...

[Leetonidas]

Also lol at claiming you were right about the gas prices...yeah years later :lmao

[Nbadan]

Also lol at claiming you were right about the gas prices...yeah years later :lmao

you stoned again? Gas prices were this high in 2005..

[ChumpDumper]

When I see many of my friends from HS, many of them were smarter than me, had more potential than me, certainly better looking than me.....it's difficult to measure success from afar, but I have to say, I have accomplished and am accomplishing a lot in my life while others didn't...some had misfortune, that's for sure...but the way I see it, many just lacked vision...So, we're just talking about a job?

[ChumpDumper]

That's disappointingly mundane tbh.

[MannyIsGod]

Judging by the way NBA Dan over values his presence here (LOL @ the thought that he brings hits to this site) I would be shocked if he wasn't doing the same with his life. Every time he talks about how great a mathematician he is I laugh considering how bad he is with data (lol Galveston destroyed in 2005).

[Blake]

Expect either New Orleans, Galveston-Houston, or some part of the Texas coast to suffer a major storm with major damage.



I have accomplished and am accomplishing a lot in my life while others didn't...some had misfortune, that's for sure...but the way I see it, many just lacked vision...

So when you had the vision that part of the Gulf coast was going to suffer through a major storm with major damage, what exactly did you do about it?

[MannyIsGod]

Warned Spurstalk, obviously.

[Blake]

Warned Spurstalk, obviously.

ah, right.

warning a San Antonio based messageboard of a hurricane heading towards Houston or New Orleans is visionary leadership in action

[Nbadan]

So, we're just talking about a job?

If that is what you consider important....my interpretation is open to all kinds of value...

[Nbadan]

Judging by the way NBA Dan over values his presence here (LOL @ the thought that he brings hits to this site) I would be shocked if he wasn't doing the same with his life. Every time he talks about how great a mathematician he is I laugh considering how bad he is with data (lol Galveston destroyed in 2005).

right...and that 250K you said you made last year (during what must be your ninth year in college) has made you more of a man

:lol

[Nbadan]

So when you had the vision that part of the Gulf coast was going to suffer through a major storm with major damage, what exactly did you do about it?

What did you expect me to do about it?

[Nbadan]

Warned Spurstalk, obviously.

It wasn't a warning, it was a premonition...

...see, no vision.

[MannyIsGod]

right...and that 250K you said you made last year (during what must be your ninth year in college) has made you more of a man

:lol

Ninth year? You're on crack. I'm on track to graduate with less than 5 years total time in school.

I never said I made 250k. Ever. Unlike you I don't need to lie about myself on Spurstalk to make myself feel better.

:lol Mathematician

[MannyIsGod]

What did you expect me to do about it?

:lol Visionary leader

[ChumpDumper]

If that is what you consider important....my interpretation is open to all kinds of value...So what are you actually talking about?

What are you leading here?

[Blake]

What did you expect me to do about it?

so you did nothing.

by your definition, a fortune cookie is a visionary leader.

[TeyshaBlue]

so you did nothing.

by your definition, a fortune cookie is a visionary leader.

So is my Chihuahua.:lol http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/teyshablue/Chico.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Wow. Over the years I've read a lot of stupid shit in here and sat idly by and laughed to . myself, but this is fucking too much. :lmao :lmao :lmao Dude is flat out WRONG on everything except predicting a hurricane would hit a Galveston or New Orleans (way to go out on a limb and suggest a town bordering the sea could get hit by a hurricane :wow ) and then tries to come in and twist his predictions and what they entail to make it seem like he was right. :lmao :lmao

That was awesome. Nice job on the 6 year bump Manny. :lmao

Yeah, I found the "but if I interpret things juuuust in the right way, my predictions all came out correct" bit was a bit much.

If you are wrong, just suck it up. No big deal.

(edit) Unless, of course, you are predicting the end of the world, then you are just a douchebag, IMO.

[RandomGuy]

I know I am doing something right when people on both ends of the spectrum can agree with me at least some of the time. :lol

Otherwise, I might have to question my moderate/centrist cred.

Fixed for you know who you are.

[TeyshaBlue]

Unless, of course, you are predicting the end of the world, then you are just a douchebag, IMO.

I predict the world will end.


Eventually.



Someday.



Probably when the Mavs win 5 rings.

[Nbadan]

:lol Visionary leader

You don't read much do you? context is important. I 'm not trying to run for political office...what I'm talking about is the kind of vision it takes to give this forum some direction...and that ain't from a 32 year old guy still in his 5th year in college....nobody wants to hear your shit....

[Nbadan]

So what are you actually talking about?

What are you leading here?

It's not about what I'm doing, this is about what your not doing...

[ChumpDumper]

You don't read much do you? context is important. I 'm not trying to run for political office...what I'm talking about is the kind of vision it takes to give this forum some direction...and that ain't from a 32 year old guy still in his 5th year in college....nobody wants to hear your shit....So you're better than all those people in high school because you "lead" a political subforum on an unofficial small-market NBA team message board?

[ChumpDumper]

It's not about what I'm doing, this is about what your not doing...Ok, What am I not doing?

[Nbadan]

Yeah, I found the "but if I interpret things juuuust in the right way, my predictions all came out correct" bit was a bit much.

If you are wrong, just suck it up. No big deal.

(edit) Unless, of course, you are predicting the end of the world, then you are just a douchebag, IMO.

I've never claimed I got every prediction right, but I got many of them right...the fact that not one person has stepped up to the plate and made a legit premonition about anything political or economic, except for RG, says wonders about many of the posters here...

[ChumpDumper]

I've never claimed I got every prediction right, but I got many of them right...the fact that not one person has stepped up to the plate and made a legit premonition about anything political or economic, except for RG, says wonders about many of the posters here...Plenty of people have. They just don't start threads about it.

[Nbadan]

So you're better than all those people in high school because you "lead" a political subforum on an unofficial small-market NBA team message board?

I haven't 'lead' anything here in quite awhile...I've been busy working on other projects, but i do pop in here ever now and then and the biggest thing I see going on is a bunch of group think in many threads....it's disheartening because many times in politics there are no simple answers, no right and wrong, but some posters here think that their shit don't stink and everyone else's opinion? Pfffff....

[Nbadan]

Plenty of people have. They just don't start threads about it.

this thread is 6 years old....

[ChumpDumper]

I haven't 'lead' anything here in quite awhile...I've been busy working on other projects, but i do pop in here ever now and then and the biggest thing I see going on is a bunch of group think in many threads....it's disheartening because many times in politics there are no simple answers, no right and wrong, but some posters here think that their shit don't stink and everyone else's opinion? Pfffff....Are you really accusing other posters of acting superior?

[ChumpDumper]

this thread is 6 years old....And you started it.

[Blake]

I've never claimed I got every prediction right, but I got many of them right....

I must have missed it...which ones did you get right?

[Blake]

common?



I'll say that the average price per gallon at the pumps next June will be less than $2.99.



before June 2012?

no



Rick Perry



I predict there will be rain before June 2012



In what ways did you show leadership through your vision(s) from 2005?

Is hitting 2 of 4 good?

[Nbadan]

Locked up the 2012 election pretty solidly I say. Before the election I Predicted that Obama would take almost every swing state except maybe Florida and North Carolina, and he would get about 318 electoral votes...he wound up losing North Carolina and barely edging by in Florida to finish with 332 electoral votes...

I deserve another Spur.

[ChumpDumper]

Are you joking?

[Nbadan]

Are you joking?

Ha! Knew that would get under your skin....

(but I was right about my prediction)

[ChumpDumper]

Ha! Knew that would get under your skin....That prediction was wrong.

Had you said bemused....

[Nbadan]

Someday, you know I'll be right about 911 too....If anything, Atta got back into the U.S. far too easily and the whole Huffman aviation and the dancer girlfriend...coke......they were running a freaking Air America...

[ChumpDumper]

Someday, you know I'll be right about 911 too.How would anyone know?

You never actually said what you think really happened on 9/11.