are the Aggies ready for:

[K-State Spur]

24.8 PPG/13.1 RPG/57% FG

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15.8 PPG/6.5 RPG/46% FG

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[johngateswhiteley]

i'd like to think so, but A&M is getting raped by tekk. this is probably the worst game i have ever seen A&M play...ever (considering their abilities). against that shit school tekk...

[CubanMustGo]

Ags always seem to have a problem playing @ Tech.

[Doug Collins]

Knight gets his team to go right at the aggies, which completely throws them off. Turgeon apparently didn't watch any tape of last years games and refused to try a zone until it was too late. Knight has our number and having 16 consecutive traveling violations in the first half didn't help.

[Doug Collins]

24.8 PPG/13.1 RPG/57% FG

http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics16/400/YD/YDSNWBTFDTXTWPD.20071024214009.jpg

15.8 PPG/6.5 RPG/46% FG

http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics11/400/UK/UKIYBGCJEAQPQRN.20071024213918.jpg

Yes, but only if Michael agrees to wear his headband properly. I blame D-Fisher for the influx of trendy fuckin retarded ways to wear headbands.

[K-State Spur]

actually, I don't think he's worn a headband in a game yet this year. not sure why he chose to do it for picture day.

[degenerate_gambler]

combination of things last night doomed aggy....outcoached, cupcake schedule up to this point, and what will ultimately end their season prematurely...no Acie Law type to settle them down when bad things happen.

[Doug Collins]

combination of things last night doomed aggy....outcoached, cupcake schedule up to this point, and what will ultimately end their season prematurely...no Acie Law type to settle them down when bad things happen.


Many aggies were counting on one of sloan, carter, or jones to become the team's primary go to guy. With the exception of Sloan none of those guys seem to want that responsibility and Sloan still needs more time to develop in that role. Jones has been a huge dissappointment this year so far, and his inability to take over games or stay out of foul trouble hurts. I think the team will get better through the conference schedule, but at their current state they would be done in the 1st or 2nd round of the tourney.

13 TOs in the first half due to being "rattled" is ridiculous, and Turgeon was thoroughly outcoached.

[Doug Collins]

actually, I don't think he's worn a headband in a game yet this year. not sure why he chose to do it for picture day.

I thought I remembered him wearing one in the first couple of games, but I could be mistaken. Either way he looks stupid in that picture.

[degenerate_gambler]

Many aggies were counting on one of sloan, carter, or jones to become the team's primary go to guy. With the exception of Sloan none of those guys seem to want that responsibility and Sloan still needs more time to develop in that role. Jones has been a huge dissappointment this year so far, and his inability to take over games or stay out of foul trouble hurts. I think the team will get better through the conference schedule, but at their current state they would be done in the 1st or 2nd round of the tourney.

13 TOs in the first half due to being "rattled" is ridiculous, and Turgeon was thoroughly outcoached.


A&M will be fine in conf. play, probably coming in 2nd behind Kansas. But to go deep in the tournament, you have to have stud guard play and as talented as A&M is collectively, they don't have a true leader at the point. Sloan has the job by omission but I don't get the sense he's a true PG.

[Doug Collins]

A&M will be fine in conf. play, probably coming in 2nd behind Kansas. But to go deep in the tournament, you have to have stud guard play and as talented as A&M is collectively, they don't have a true leader at the point. Sloan has the job by omission but I don't get the sense he's a true PG.

Sloan is not a true PG and neither is Kirk. I think Kirk has done a pretty good job handling the position, but he needs to take more of a leadership role especially in situations like last night's game where the team completely loses focus. Sloan is still only a sophomore and I think can still develop into a hybrid pg, but as of now he is just a scoring guard.

Carter needs to start asserting himself more by driving to the hoop. When the aggies attacked the basket and had Carter hitting the boards at the beginning of the 2nd half they made a nice run. Of course then they stopped guarding Woods and Zeno and they put us away.

[MajorMike]

A&M will be fine in conf. play, probably coming in 2nd behind Kansas. But to go deep in the tournament, you have to have stud guard play and as talented as A&M is collectively, they don't have a true leader at the point. Sloan has the job by omission but I don't get the sense he's a true PG.

I think they come in 2nd behind Kansas because the B12 will be lucky to have 4 teams in the NCAAs this year; the conf is pretty awful. Teams you thought had a chance for 4th or 5th are now 0-2. Mizzou beats UT then loses to ISU. ttek whoops atm after they just got whooped by OSU who then loses to BU. I'd say KU, UT and atm are prolly in (tho atm's ooc sched is completely awful) and KState has a nice win at uo. That's it. Baylor is at 36 and uo at 38 and KState is at 46. By playing each other, your rating isn't going to be moving much. ttek is up to 66 with this win, but they need lots of help. I think the reason CBS Sportline lists the top 65 then everyone else is because the lowest at large bid ever had been 66. Everyone else is sucking bad - Mizzou 83, ISU 122, OSU 123, CU 132, NU 153.

[K-State Spur]

I think they come in 2nd behind Kansas because the B12 will be lucky to have 4 teams in the NCAAs this year; the conf is pretty awful. Teams you thought had a chance for 4th or 5th are now 0-2. Mizzou beats UT then loses to ISU. ttek whoops atm after they just got whooped by OSU who then loses to BU. I'd say KU, UT and atm are prolly in (tho atm's ooc sched is completely awful) and KState has a nice win at uo. That's it. Baylor is at 36 and uo at 38 and KState is at 46. By playing each other, your rating isn't going to be moving much. ttek is up to 66 with this win, but they need lots of help. I think the reason CBS Sportline lists the top 65 then everyone else is because the lowest at large bid ever had been 66. Everyone else is sucking bad - Mizzou 83, ISU 122, OSU 123, CU 132, NU 153.

We (as a conference) did too well in the non-conference to only get 4 bids. Our conference RPI is very high this year (and beating up on each other within conference will not change that). I don't think we'll see a 10 win team from the Big 12 get passed over for a 7 win team from the SEC this year (absolutely ridiculous).

[Doug Collins]

We (as a conference) did too well in the non-conference to only get 4 bids. Our conference RPI is very high this year (and beating up on each other within conference will not change that). I don't think we'll see a 10 win team from the Big 12 get passed over for a 7 win team from the SEC this year (absolutely ridiculous).


You mean Arkansas didn't deserve to get in last year?!?!?!?! That was total garbage.

[MajorMike]

You are assuming the 4th place team in the B12 will have 10 conf wins.

[K-State Spur]

That wouldn't be an awful assumption to make. Never before in the history of the conference have less than 4 teams failed to win 10 games. Mathematically, in a 12 team league, it's very difficult (even with parity) to come out with scenarios where less than 4 teams do so.

In addition, even if the 4th place team only wins 9 games, they'll be in with the high conference RPI (we're ahead of the SEC and the Big 10). We're likely looking at 5 bids and possibly 6 depending on how everything plays out.

[MajorMike]

Well, for one thing, the SEC may be worse than the B12 this year, so your SEC arguement shouldn't be difficult.

And you are correct that no 4th place team has even had less than 10 wins. However on that same note, every year that the 4th place team has had 10 wins and the 5th place had 9 or less (the last 5 years in a row have been like that) there has been a completely awful team at the bottom. It won't be that way this year, as the 2 teams that are already 0-2 in conf already have double digit wins overall. IMO, this means more parity, more home team wins over everyone but KU, and most teams holding home court against like or slightly better opponents. The end result will be more losses to go around. Also, KU will likely not lose, maybe once at most. This also means more losses for everyone else.

Now the B12 has never failed to get a 4th place team in and I don't think they will this year, and logic dictates that the 4th place team will most likely have 10 wins. I am just saying in this year it is far from a given, and I would expect the 5th place team to be 8-8 or worse (ala 1998).

[ReggieF]

not sure the A&M OOC schedule deserves to be called awfule, UTEP,Washington,Alabama,Ohio State,Oral ROberts (who hammered Okie Lite) and Arizona are a marked improvement over what BCG had been trotting them out there against. They did win the pre-season NIT.

[johngateswhiteley]

not sure the A&M OOC schedule deserves to be called awfule, UTEP,Washington,Alabama,Ohio State,Oral ROberts (who hammered Okie Lite) and Arizona are a marked improvement over what BCG had been trotting them out there against. They did win the pre-season NIT.

...some of the posters are just ignorant, there was nothing wrong with A&M's OOC schedule. aside from that, i think A&M will hammer k-state today...i can't wait for this game.

A&M 76
k-state 61

[K-State Spur]

aggies may win, but absolutely no way the aggies beat the cats by 15 at home. let us not forget that a much less talented KSU team took a better A&M team to the wire last year in college station.

if this game is a blowout, it goes the other way.

[johngateswhiteley]

aggies may win, but absolutely no way the aggies beat the cats by 15 at home. let us not forget that a much less talented KSU team took a better A&M team to the wire last year in college station.

if this game is a blowout, it goes the other way.


not after we lost to tekk.

[K-State Spur]

look at turgeon's track record. his teams tend to collapse after bad losses - not bounce back from them.

[Horry For 3!]

Nope. They are gettin killed.

[K-State Spur]

not after we lost to tekk.

only 36 points off on your prediction.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

...some of the posters are just ignorant, there was nothing wrong with A&M's OOC schedule. aside from that, i think A&M will hammer k-state today...i can't wait for this game.

A&M 76
k-state 61

Chigga
Rigga

RUM


At least Jones didn't foul out, right?

[K-State Spur]

A&M did become just the second team (along with Xavier) to prevent Beasley from getting a double/double (just 4 boards to go with 21 points). Although, a lot of that had to do with Martin subbing him out offense/defense for the majority of the game.

[Slinkyman]

Just think beasley and durant on the same team...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

:td

Turgeon needs to ditch his piece of shit motion offense and go to a low post offense.

A&M's talent is more suited for running an offense like the Spurs, but we have a coach who is in love with the Phoenix Suns style of play.

Going to be a long year if Turgeon doesn't pull his head out of his ass.

[Doug Collins]

:td

Turgeon needs to ditch his piece of shit motion offense and go to a low post offense.

A&M's talent is more suited for running an offense like the Spurs, but we have a coach who is in love with the Phoenix Suns style of play.

Going to be a long year if Turgeon doesn't pull his head out of his ass.

He also might want to try a zone defense when we're getting killed man to man. This team is playing fucking scared and Turgeon needs to fucking lace into them. I think he's been way too easy on them. Three double digit road losses, 2 of which were to teams they should've beaten, is garbage.

Nobody can match up with us in the post and instead of force feeding it we have Kirk, Sloan, and Carter spending the majority of their time dribbling on the perimeter running the shot clock down. And I think we've set the Big 12 record for most traveling violations in a two game span. :madrun

But whatever, Beasley and Walker kicked the shit out of us and deserved the win.

[johngateswhiteley]

...fuck k-state, and will somebody tell me what the fuck Turgeon is doing? ...we can only win at home?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

LOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLLOLOL

aggies just placed flaccid kstate shlong in their corps loving mouths

rawflflflflfllll

[Extra Stout]

Wake me up around 2030 when the Ags are ready to make another Sweet 16 run.

[RonMexico]

These past 2 games have been pretty disappointing. If we let Erin (intentional usage of female name) Bruce beat us, then just contract the team.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics11/400/UK/UKIYBGCJEAQPQRN.20071024213918.jpg


Bust.

[K-State Spur]

i'm not sure anybody can possibly play worse than he played tonight.

if he had just had a bad game (as opposed to the COMPLETE suckitude that he actually did), the Cats win rather comfortably.

[Whisky Dog]

i'm not sure anybody can possibly play worse than he played tonight.

if he had just had a bad game (as opposed to the COMPLETE suckitude that he actually did), the Cats win rather comfortably.

Who, Beasley? He still put up a pretty good line considering the damn good defense that he went against. This isn't your January Texas team, something switched with these boys and Atchley, Johnson, Wangmene, Chapman, and even Pitman are giving bigs all sorts of trouble. Just ask OU and aTm how their good front lines fared against this team recently.

Walker showed to be too immature to handle a team getting physical with him, and KState was lucky that his suckness was somewhat offset by the suckness of Damion James. Beasley can't beat an elite team by himself, and if the other guys aren't going to man up they are dead in the water. Beasley wasn't the problem, not being able to match Texas' guard or SF play is what killed them. Texas is just the better overall team.

[K-State Spur]

Bill Walker.

Beasley did what he does (even though he didn't have his A game).

[Whisky Dog]

Bill Walker.

Beasley did what he does (even though he didn't have his A game).

Ok, I get what you meant. I didn't see Walker's picture there and thought the thread was all about Beasly.

Like I said, Walker was a bit exposed tonight. Texas got physical with him and he starting whining and then throwing mini fits and shots at UT players. He got taken completely out of his game and Texas just let him keep traveling the downward spiral and ignored his little shots. Hopefully for KState it was an abberation, but if I'm a coach going against this team and I have the horses to get physical with him I am definitely doing it.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

In summary: The guy is a little whiny bitch that can't step up in front of a home crowd.

[K-State Spur]

In summary: The guy is a little whiny bitch that can't step up in front of a home crowd.

he had a damn good game against KU.

just not last night. even augustin has had his share of shitty games this year too. just not 0-14 level of shitty.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I know, im just hating for the sake of hating.

[K-State Spur]

when a guy plays as horrific as walker is, a certain level of hating is certainly called for.