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T Park
01-21-2008, 02:25 AM
Its 1 am, after a night of some tall boys at BWW, good football, and great friends. It got me thinking on the way home, of how great our country currently is, and one of the people that has alot to do with it, is Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. It's hard for me to put into words (due to me being dumber than a post) what he means to each and every person. What does he mean to me? Hes someone who changed not only our country, but I'd like to think alot of human kind. He changed the way kids growing up at that time, and grow up now think. He changed the way adults young and old at the time thought. He changed our country for the better so much that its unspeakable. Alot of my friends are of minority race due to where I went to school. I love my friends to death, and I'd like to think, alot of the reason we got a chance to meet and become friends from school, was due to him. Helping desegregate schools and day to day life. I couldn't think of my life without my school friends, and to think of a modern day of seperate drinking fountains and seperate bathrooms, and a person not being allowed into a resteraunt due to his skin color is unthinkable. I consider myself lucky for growing up in this era of racial tolerance as opposed to the 50s and 60s when it took such a special man like MLK to change it.

So, please, take a moment of the day, and give thanks to whoever, that MLK graced us with his fantastic life, and his fantastic teachings.


Have a great MLK day everyone.

Heat Miser
01-21-2008, 03:15 AM
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JoeChalupa
01-21-2008, 09:09 AM
Nice Post TPark. :tu I concur.

polandprzem
01-21-2008, 10:53 AM
How could anybody change your thinking?

Ed Helicopter Jones
01-21-2008, 11:20 AM
I thought this was going to be another Tom Cruise thread.

monosylab1k
01-21-2008, 11:22 AM
I thought this was going to be another Tom Cruise thread.
I was guessing Reagan.

peewee's lovechild
01-21-2008, 11:52 AM
Nice interracial love post.

I wonder what he thinks of the Jews and The Holocaust.

Oh, wait . . .

monosylab1k
01-21-2008, 12:05 PM
Wasn't Dr. King a liberal and endorsed democratic socialism? Interesting...

slayermin
01-21-2008, 12:21 PM
http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/african/2000/1968_01b.jpg

Ed Helicopter Jones
01-21-2008, 12:25 PM
Wasn't Dr. King a liberal and endorsed democratic socialism? Interesting...

Details, details. Don't weigh down T with such things.









T is just trying to be politically correct. Kudos.

T Park
01-21-2008, 02:00 PM
Not at all. Once again, the geniuses and wonderfull people of Spurstalk rear their lovely heads.

The heck with this.

Cartman
01-21-2008, 02:17 PM
Not at all. Once again, the geniuses and wonderfull people of Spurstalk rear their lovely heads.

The heck with this.

What do you expect?
your an asshat with us 364 days a year and the one day your lilly white funnel cake eating ass decides to show his tree hugging Oprah Winfrey
feed the world book club side,
Are wee supposed to all of a sudden drop what we a re doing and run to block buster and rent Roots so we can join all the rich white people who feel guilty the one day of the year?

Nigra Please!

monosylab1k
01-21-2008, 02:19 PM
Alot of my friends are of minority race
:lmao this is my favorite part!

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
01-21-2008, 02:24 PM
I'm not racist, one of my best friends is black.

monosylab1k
01-21-2008, 02:25 PM
I'm not racist, one of my best friends is black.
:lol

the minority race salutes you for your courage.

Big Worm
01-21-2008, 02:30 PM
This topic would be ok if maybe Angel_Luv or RashoFan made it.

Somehow it loses it's sincerity when you see the biggest whitest person at ST trying to get us all to have Lunch with Al Sharpton.

It's no big secret TPark's parents are rich, and their ancestors didn't get that way without owning a slave or two.

Maybe that's were the guilt comes from?

Last Comic Standing
01-21-2008, 02:43 PM
I wonder in the Bizzaro world if there is a chubby black kid in a forum trying to get his black friends to salute Christopher Columbus one a year.

ShoogarBear
01-21-2008, 06:44 PM
FWIW, I think T Park is sincere.

Although I always wonder how everyone who comes out praising MLK this time of year (not just T Park) reconciles MLK's nonviolence stance their own opinions.

Is nonviolence how just blacks should deal with being attacked, but no one else?

T Park
01-21-2008, 07:06 PM
Thank you Shoogar.

SequSpur
01-21-2008, 07:32 PM
Fuck that... He didn't change dick. I still had to go to work today.

FromWayDowntown
01-21-2008, 07:34 PM
I agree with Shoog and take TPark at his word on this one.

I also agree that there's more to believing in the things that Dr. King fought for than just praising his work.

CuckingFunt
01-21-2008, 07:53 PM
Is nonviolence how just blacks should deal with being attacked, but no one else?

I think that violence should be a last, last, LAST resort in all situations.

But, then again, I'm a weenie Californian.

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
01-21-2008, 07:58 PM
Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act.

It took a president to get it done.

ShoogarBear
01-21-2008, 07:59 PM
Fuck that... He didn't change dick. I still had to go to work today.You need to have Randy Newman's birthday made a federal holiday.

mouse
01-21-2008, 10:15 PM
Why can't we respect MLK and Blacks all year round, why make it a special one day event?

mouse
01-21-2008, 10:17 PM
And why is there black history month, did black people not do anything the other 11 months of the year?

mouse
01-21-2008, 10:18 PM
I have a few other takes and questions on the subject if only Greg More would get his black ass in here and answer them.

:wakeup

marini martini
01-21-2008, 10:37 PM
Why can't we respect MLK and Blacks all year round, why make it a special one day event?

No Shit :toast :toast :toast

SequSpur
01-21-2008, 10:41 PM
Why can't we respect MLK and Blacks all year round, why make it a special one day event?

I am glad the weather was shitty today. If I have to work and others are off then they can suffer also.

mouse
01-21-2008, 10:52 PM
All my black friends only one has a legit job so, who is MLK day really for?

mouse
01-21-2008, 11:03 PM
What gets my flipping goat is shows like Starz in Black the Starz channel?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cc/Starz_in_Black.jpg/120px-Starz_in_Black.jpg


How long would Starz whites only channel survive on Time Warner?

It's shit like this that makes this black vs white race shit never go away!

It's like black folks who don't want to be called ###### a word they say over 100 times a day in the hood on the phone or making a song.

But it's cool to use Honky,Jew,and red neck on TV and radio etc...?

Either we can 'all' can say ######,Jew,wet back,etc..... or 'No One' can say it.


that's the bottom-line brah!

SequSpur
01-21-2008, 11:10 PM
I agree. I want my WET

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-21-2008, 11:17 PM
I agree. I want my WET

You've already got your own... multiples even.

http://blog.digitalhomemag.com/resources/digitalhome/BBC-logo.jpg

ShoogarBear
01-21-2008, 11:28 PM
I agree. I want my WET24 hours of this?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7d/NationalHockeyLeague.png

ShoogarBear
01-21-2008, 11:31 PM
Oh, and have you ever WATCHED Stars in Black, mouse?

Here's tonight's lineup:

10:10 Ghosts of Mississippi, starring James Woods and Alec Baldwin
12:30 Highlander: Final Destination, starring Christopher Lambert and Mario Van Peebles

mouse
01-21-2008, 11:35 PM
RACK da Blaze! :wakeup

Another thing that is jacked up is a Black comic can talk about the Asians have small cocks the Mexicans are lazy and the white folks can't dance or play Basketball etc.......


but a white comic can't talk about how black people have big lips and pubes for facial hair etc.....?

that is called a double standard and some countries have gone to war over less.

no wonder racism is alive today. The Black people keep the flame burning.


I honestly feel Black people don't want racism to go away why take away there only crutch? What will they complain about? Now there is no excuse to get your black ass to work like whitey. Your equal now have fun!

Just think Al Sharpton would be out of a Job, (probably off himself) and Tpark will have to find another non white hero to look up to once a year. :lmao

midgetonadonkey
01-21-2008, 11:42 PM
I ate watermelon today to show support for my black bredrin.

Asa salem salam to all my nubian brothers.

mouse
01-22-2008, 12:04 AM
I ate watermelon today to show support for my black bredrin.


So what do you eat on St Patrick's day?

Tonto
01-22-2008, 12:06 AM
pale face tpark
give props to dark brother
make tonto proud

Ed Helicopter Jones
01-22-2008, 12:12 AM
RACK da Blaze! :wakeup

Another thing that is jacked up is a Black comic can talk about the Asians have small cocks the Mexicans are lazy and the white folks can't dance or play Basketball etc.......


but a white comic can't talk about how black people have big lips and pubes for facial hair etc.....?

that is called a double standard and some countries have gone to war over less.

no wonder racism is alive today. The Black people keep the flame burning.


I honestly feel Black people don't want racism to go away why take away there only crutch? What will they complain about? Now there is no excuse to get your black ass to work like whitey. Your equal now have fun!

Just think Al Sharpton would be out of a Job, (probably off himself) and Tpark will have to find another non white hero to look up to once a year. :lmao

Interesting points, and there's a lot of truth in what you've said.

I wish there were more black leaders who looked to heal the racism that still remains out there rather than perpetuate it. Guys like Al Sharpton are a joke really. I'm amazed that he gets to be any sort of spokesman for the black community. His credibility seems so flimsy that I don't see how anyone takes him seriously. He strikes me as an opportunist who jumps into situations that are receiving press in order to keep himself in the headlines.

At the same time, however, you don't see many white politicians actively working to heal racial issues. They ignore it. I think it's become a taboo subject because, heaven forbid a white politician mis-speak and end up on CNN defending himself against Al Sharpton.

The world needs another MLK Jr.

ShoogarBear
01-22-2008, 12:21 AM
So . . . the problem is the black leaders want to perpetuate racism?

Meanwhile the white leaders really want to solve racism but they're afraid of the black leaders?

Yeah, that's pretty much how things are run in this country. :lmao

It's funny how white people always anoint Al Sharpton as the all-purpose "black leader" when it's convenient for them. That's like me saying that Bill O'Reilly is the "white leader".

Ed Helicopter Jones
01-22-2008, 12:30 AM
So . . . the problem is the black leaders want to perpetuate racism?

Meanwhile the white leaders really want to solve racism but they're afraid of the black leaders?

Yeah, that's pretty much how things are run in this country. :lmao

It's funny how white people always anoint Al Sharpton as the all-purpose "black leader" when it's convenient for them. That's like me saying that Bill O'Reilly is the "white leader".

No, actually I think white leaders ignore racism because it doesn't make political sense for them to address it.

Black leaders address it by calling out stupid racist white behavior, but I don't see many doing nearly enough to call on blacks to be accountable for their own bad behavior.

What I'm saying is that everyone is to blame. There shouldn't be the chasm that still exists between races.

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-22-2008, 12:33 AM
So what do you eat on St Patrick's day?

A hot Irish woman.

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-22-2008, 12:34 AM
And Mouse...

http://celebritybabies.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/17/ralphiemay.jpg

Heat Miser
01-22-2008, 12:39 AM
The world needs another MLK Jr.

And how long would his black ass stay alive? Have you not been to the Gun clubs? Look at the kids they find with more guns in their garage than the solders had in Viet Nam. MLK today would have to be related to 50 Cent in order to visit the Cripts and the Bloods , east coast vs west coast violence that Al Sharpton and any Black actor or congressman has addressed. No one wants to "Go there"

It's a taboo topic.

well with all the Mexicans coming to this country on a hourly basis, the Black folks better get their shit together and cash out now!

they will not be the only poor minority that has a voice anymore, someone new in town needs our attention.

Black folks will be lucky to sell a Rap CD anymore!
If you have seen some of the Latino Rappers who are all over the www and cable tv those dawgs can rap, and still manage to not beat their Ho's or degrade their own sisters to look cool, wow! what a new concept in Rap music!

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-22-2008, 12:44 AM
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ShoogarBear
01-22-2008, 12:44 AM
No, actually I think white leaders ignore racism because it doesn't make political sense for them to address it. Or, maybe they're perfectly happy with the status quo. Or maybe even if things turn back, that's okay with them, too.


Black leaders address it by calling out stupid racist white behavior, but I don't see many doing nearly enough to call on blacks to be accountable for their own bad behavior. I don't know where you get your information on what "black leaders" do, but it doesn't take a lot of digging to find out what people like Louis Farrakhan, Robert Johnson, Earl Graves, and Bill Cosby are saying.

What I see is that whenever people want to ignore or deny issues, they use Al Sharpton as a strawman for doing so.

And . . . sometimes Al Shapton is right.

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-22-2008, 12:51 AM
I just want to say, I wonder how many people know who Earl Graves and Bob Johnson are.

whottt
01-22-2008, 12:52 AM
Is nonviolence how just blacks should deal with being attacked, but no one else?

Black minorities who are citizens of the country where they face discrimination? Who are clamoring for the Nation to live up to the principles of equality set forth in it's constitution, especially when a lot of the majority agree with them?


You betcha...

It was smart.


And it worked....



However...it wouldn't have worked if this country had an authoritarian monarch type ruler who despised them for religious or ethnic reasons. Then they would have been brutalized or slaughtered...




It's never a good idea for a minority(any minority) to use violence to make it's point as the first course of action...it's also not a good idea for anyone at a technological disadvantage..and generally speaking a minority cannot rule a majority without using extreme brutality. Anywhere in the world...

peewee's lovechild
01-22-2008, 01:00 AM
So what do you eat on St Patrick's day?

Cabbage and potatoes.

peewee's lovechild
01-22-2008, 01:01 AM
That's like me saying that Bill O'Reilly is the "white leader".

He is.

Kill Whitey!!!

Heat Miser
01-22-2008, 01:12 AM
So . . . the problem is the black leaders want to perpetuate racism?

Who is a black leader? we are talking about Al (pimp) Sharpton.
name a legit black leader!



Meanwhile the white leaders really want to solve racism but they're afraid of the black leaders?

forget about the white man he will always hate a ######. That shit will never die.

But if it doesn't offend the black people and if the rest of us know ###### is just a word like "Da bomb!" it will fade away as it will not be fresh or cool to say anymore.

But Black people keep "reminding" us everyday how the word ###### is so offensive and how it can do damage and cause a race war thus keeping it fresh and worthy to talk about day after day, year after year, and so on..

If Black folks would just not say anything about race for 10 years soon it will end since it takes two to tango.

plus everyone will see where the problem is and can be corrected or it may some day work it's way out to an end.

but to be honest I haven't seen the PLO and the Jews have a Thanksgiving dinner together and look how long they have been fighting.






Yeah, that's pretty much how things are run in this country. :lmao

Unless your Oprah she seems to be $ benefiting $ on being Black and smart.
how many Asians you see in LA trying to wash your windshield for money to buy a 40 Once?

Those Japs get jobs. as well as the Indian and Mexicans. It's the white trailer trash and the black crack addict that keep asking for money!


It's funny how white people always anoint Al Sharpton as the all-purpose "black leader" when it's convenient for them. That's like me saying that Bill O'Reilly is the "white leader".


Half this white country can't stand Bill O'Reilly but 99% black folks Love Al Sharpton, there is a huge difference in your comparison please use another analogy por fa vor! Remove Bill and replace him with GW Bush and you may have something.

:wakeup

whottt
01-22-2008, 01:15 AM
Don't let em get on you too much TPark...

http://www.classicalvalues.com/Poitier_Belafonte_Heston_Civil_Rights_March_1963.j pg


Not all Republicans are racists...not even the gun loving right wingers.

Spawn
01-22-2008, 01:15 AM
Its 1 am, after a night of some tall boys at BWW, good football, and great friends. It got me thinking on the way home, of how great our country currently is, and one of the people that has alot to do with it, is Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. It's hard for me to put into words (due to me being dumber than a post) what he means to each and every person. What does he mean to me? Hes someone who changed not only our country, but I'd like to think alot of human kind. He changed the way kids growing up at that time, and grow up now think. He changed the way adults young and old at the time thought. He changed our country for the better so much that its unspeakable. Alot of my friends are of minority race due to where I went to school. I love my friends to death, and I'd like to think, alot of the reason we got a chance to meet and become friends from school, was due to him. Helping desegregate schools and day to day life. I couldn't think of my life without my school friends, and to think of a modern day of seperate drinking fountains and seperate bathrooms, and a person not being allowed into a resteraunt due to his skin color is unthinkable. I consider myself lucky for growing up in this era of racial tolerance as opposed to the 50s and 60s when it took such a special man like MLK to change it.

So, please, take a moment of the day, and give thanks to whoever, that MLK graced us with his fantastic life, and his fantastic teachings.


Have a great MLK day everyone.

No offense but you have described some sort of dream world. Racism is still a major problem today it is just people are much smarter in the way they conceal it.

Plus all of the talk about how integration was this great thing just boggles my mind. Growing up we were bombarded with this notion that integration was this great thing that was long overdue but in actuality integration ruined any kind of ground Black people had to stand on. Integration caused mass unemployment in the Black community, and killed the Black economy.

slayermin
01-22-2008, 01:26 AM
Martin Luther King is one of my heroes. I could listen to him speak for hours.

Moving to Los Angeles exposed me to african-american culture, up close and personal. Though not everything has been positive, black folks here have been a huge part of my personal development, professionally and socially. And of all the ethnic groups here, it seems like they are the most racially mixed, which, imo, goes hand in hand with tolerance.

Ed Helicopter Jones
01-22-2008, 01:26 AM
Or, maybe they're perfectly happy with the status quo. Or maybe even if things turn back, that's okay with them, too.

I believe this is probably true in a lot of cases.




I don't know where you get your information on what "black leaders" do, but it doesn't take a lot of digging to find out what people like Louis Farrakhan, Robert Johnson, Earl Graves, and Bill Cosby are saying.

What I see is that whenever people want to ignore or deny issues, they use Al Sharpton as a strawman for doing so.

The point is that you still have to dig.

My original Al Sharpton comment was largely tongue-in-cheek, but since we're going there...who is it that gets the press Shoog? Honestly. I'm not saying that black political leaders with credibility aren't out there crusading, what I'm saying is that the average person gets a full dose of the Al Sharptons and very little else. He and Jesse Jackson get summoned to give their opinion on every racial matter that hits the press. The average person who is not immersed in racial issues or directly affected isn't going to 'dig' for anything.

The only time most folks are exposed to race issues in this country is when we get our occassional media circus event. When the recent Don Imus thing happened you see Al Sharpton calling him out on TV for a few days, J. Jackson throws in his two cents and then things fade out. Two months later Imus is back on the air with a few less advertising dollars.

I didn't turn on the TV of flip through the paper and see any other leader giving their opinions on the matter, black or white. I don't see discussions on the state of black/white relations. I never hear or see anything about a black leader calling out blacks to be accountable find its way into mainsteam media.

Maybe the media is responsible for keeping us uninformed folks in the dark...so to speak. Maybe it's all just a huge conspiracy.

Spawn
01-22-2008, 01:27 AM
Wasn't Dr. King a liberal and endorsed democratic socialism? Interesting...

Yes he did endorse democratic socialism and towards the end of his life became much more radical and his later views greatly contrast the image that Americans want to remember him by. "Beyond Vietnam" is a speech he did that kicked major ass in my opinion. Its as if they want to keep him in some 1963 time capsule.

Spawn
01-22-2008, 01:34 AM
I believe this is probably true in a lot of cases.



The point is that you still have to dig.

My original Al Sharpton comment was largely tongue-in-cheek, but since we're going there...who is it that gets the press Shoog? Honestly. I'm not saying that black political leaders with credibility aren't out there crusading, what I'm saying is that the average person gets a full dose of the Al Sharptons and very little else. He and Jesse Jackson get summoned to give their opinion on every racial matter that hits the press. The average person who is not immersed in racial issues or directly affected isn't going to 'dig' for anything.

The only time most folks are exposed to race issues in this country is when we get our occassional media circus event. When the recent Don Imus thing happened you see Al Sharpton calling him out on TV for a few days, J. Jackson throws in his two cents and then things fade out. Two months later Imus is back on the air with a few less advertising dollars.

I didn't turn on the TV of flip through the paper and see any other leader giving their opinions on the matter, black or white. I don't see discussions on the state of black/white relations. I never hear or see anything about a black leader calling out blacks to be accountable find its way into mainsteam media.

Maybe the media is responsible for keeping us uninformed folks in the dark...so to speak. Maybe it's all just a huge conspiracy.

Sharpton and Jackson are not the "Black leaders." They are just media created characters that the MSM needs in order to put a face on Black America. They do not speak for the millions of Black people in this country and it is time that people realize this. This gets extremely annoying.

Steve Perry
01-22-2008, 01:37 AM
^ True the wheel in the sky keeps on turning....

whottt
01-22-2008, 02:03 AM
Yes he did endorse democratic socialism and towards the end of his life became much more radical and his later views greatly contrast the image that Americans want to remember him by. "Beyond Vietnam" is a speech he did that kicked major ass in my opinion. Its as if they want to keep him in some 1963 time capsule.


I think they are just celebrating the wrong he righted and the way in which he did it...

Not his entire ideology....his major one.

Dude won his major battle, and then he got assasinated, that's why he's celebrated. If he'd lost and lived he wouldn't be.

whottt
01-22-2008, 02:08 AM
Funny thing is...if race wasn't a divisive factor...something else would be...there's always something else for people to divide over...hence human history.


Spawn, your battle is largely lost, every generation that passes, Black Americans change...so do White Americans..and Brown...geography and environment are greater than we are, if they weren't, we'd all be the same color. And eventually, barring a great disaster, and finding some place else to go, we will be........again. Whether we are separate...or not.

Holt's Cat
01-22-2008, 02:16 AM
Wasn't Dr. King a liberal and endorsed democratic socialism? Interesting...

King seemed downright conservative in comparison to those who would pick up the Civil Rights banner after him.

Anyways, King did much to avert what could have been a much more violent reaction to the end of the Jim Crow South.

peewee's lovechild
01-22-2008, 02:30 AM
We should have a Malcolm X Day.

People would get black faced and raise their fists in the air.

Extra Stout
01-22-2008, 10:04 AM
No offense but you have described some sort of dream world. Racism is still a major problem today it is just people are much smarter in the way they conceal it.

Plus all of the talk about how integration was this great thing just boggles my mind. Growing up we were bombarded with this notion that integration was this great thing that was long overdue but in actuality integration ruined any kind of ground Black people had to stand on. Integration caused mass unemployment in the Black community, and killed the Black economy.
It was all in the execution. Integration of labor without integration of capital doomed the black economy.

Ed Helicopter Jones
01-22-2008, 12:13 PM
Sharpton and Jackson are not the "Black leaders." They are just media created characters that the MSM needs in order to put a face on Black America. They do not speak for the millions of Black people in this country and it is time that people realize this.


That's basically my point. The media has spun them to be the voice for black Americans. I realize that they are not, but that's all the casual observer gets to see. I'd love to get more regular exposure to the 'true' leaders of black society but mainstream media largely ignores them.

The racial bias that still exists in this country is all the media's fault. I'm glad I figured that out. Phew!! That kept me up last night and I can't have that. Next issue, global warming............

Bigzax
01-22-2008, 01:28 PM
never mistake a politician with a leader.

ShoogarBear
01-22-2008, 08:09 PM
My original Al Sharpton comment was largely tongue-in-cheek, but since we're going there...who is it that gets the press Shoog? Honestly. I'm not saying that black political leaders with credibility aren't out there crusading, what I'm saying is that the average person gets a full dose of the Al Sharptons and very little else. He and Jesse Jackson get summoned to give their opinion on every racial matter that hits the press. The average person who is not immersed in racial issues or directly affected isn't going to 'dig' for anything.

The only time most folks are exposed to race issues in this country is when we get our occassional media circus event. When the recent Don Imus thing happened you see Al Sharpton calling him out on TV for a few days, J. Jackson throws in his two cents and then things fade out. Two months later Imus is back on the air with a few less advertising dollars.

I didn't turn on the TV of flip through the paper and see any other leader giving their opinions on the matter, black or white. I don't see discussions on the state of black/white relations. I never hear or see anything about a black leader calling out blacks to be accountable find its way into mainsteam media.

Maybe the media is responsible for keeping us uninformed folks in the dark...so to speak. Maybe it's all just a huge conspiracy.I agree with the gist of what you're saying. But for the most part there is no popular groundswell of people who want the media to go find out what Sharpton and Jackson say about everything. It's like whenever there's a street incident, the TV camera gravitates towards the biggest buffoon out there for a quote because of the entertainment value.

You'd probably feel the same way if everytime the media wanted "the white guy's" opinion on something, they went to Karl Rove.

whottt
01-23-2008, 01:03 AM
I agree with the gist of what you're saying. But for the most part there is no popular groundswell of people who want the media to go find out what Sharpton and Jackson say about everything. It's like whenever there's a street incident, the TV camera gravitates towards the biggest buffoon out there for a quote because of the entertainment value.

You'd probably feel the same way if everytime the media wanted "the white guy's" opinion on something, they went to Karl Rove.


Sharpton is the loudest....he's always got an opinion on everything...plus he presents himself as a black leader.


FWIW, I agree with a lot of your points except the one about Bill Cosby...


Bill Cosby gets more crap from prominent black leaders than the leader of the KKK does. I don't view him as a black leader for that reason...

marini martini
01-23-2008, 01:24 AM
Sharpton is the loudest....he's always got an opinion on everything...


Like you don't???????????????? :lol :toast :lol

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-23-2008, 01:25 AM
Like you don't???????????????? :lol :toast :lol

whottt is a black leader?

marini martini
01-23-2008, 01:26 AM
whottt is a black leader?


Thank you, thank you very much! I did not know that :toast

Findog
01-23-2008, 01:46 AM
I got no problem with MLK or what he stood for, but I hate the way the media spoonfeeds this shit to us, like we need to be reminded that Jim Crow and racism was a bad thing. If I'm watching the Mavs-Wizards in a noon-time game on MLK Day, I simply DO NOT CARE to hear what MLK meant to Avery Johnson. I DO CARE how he's going to adjust to the Wizards using their bigs to aggressively show on the high screen and roll.

Holt's Cat
01-23-2008, 01:53 AM
It is 2008, after all.

whottt
01-23-2008, 01:59 AM
Like you don't???????????????? :lol :toast :lol



It's a message board...if no one here had opinions it wouldn't be much of a message board.

If I had access to mass media I'd see the comparisons...but since I don't....


FWIW...I agree with you in a way, lots of similarities between my posting style and Sharpton's media persona...which should immediately indicate to you that Sharpton is full of shit.

T Park
01-23-2008, 02:02 AM
Not all Republicans are racists

I don't think JC Watts was either.

Ignignokt
01-23-2008, 02:58 AM
Tpark celebrated MLK day by ordering the 8pc special at Church's for brunch, saying hi to a "brotha", and watching "Glory" with Denzel Washington while downing a Strawberry Honey Glazed Ham Smoothie.

wrench
01-23-2008, 03:33 AM
I suggest TPark get another screen name if he really wants us all to hold hands and feed the children as we get all sentimental reading another one of his we are the world I'd like to give the world a Coke topic.

Somehow his rudeness and insults take away from anything good he tries to project.
And I personally can't picture his creamy white wonder bread ass holding hands with Barack Obama and Spike Lee while marching down the street anytime soon.

my 2 cents.

whottt
01-23-2008, 04:15 AM
Yeah...TPark obviously doesn't like black people...as evidenced by the fact that he's a basketball fan.

You guys that are saying this shit about TPark are lame.


This does not mean TPark isn't a douchebag...because he's a huge one...but the fact is that you guys are the ones being bigoted...not him. Because he's white..and conservative...he must be a racist.

Take a look in the mirror...then you'll see the racist.

wrench
01-23-2008, 04:43 AM
You guys that are saying this shit about TPark are lame.





This does not mean TPark isn't a douchebag...because he's a huge one..

Bi-Polar or just good weed?

whottt
01-23-2008, 05:10 AM
TPark can be a douchebag, in general...I just don't think he's racist and I think his original post was sincere. S'not really that hard to reconcile the two things is it?


People tend to like Martin Luther King...he had a good message and was charismatic...that's why he was successful...that's why guys like Sharpton and Jackson, who are generally considered to be his successors, and who lack those attributes, haven't really done anything except create more division and undermine a lot his efforts.

Chef
01-23-2008, 11:57 AM
TPark can be a douchebag, in general...I just don't think he's racist and I think his original post was sincere. S'not really that hard to reconcile the two things is it?


People tend to like Martin Luther King...he had a good message and was charismatic...that's why he was successful...that's why guys like Sharpton and Jackson, who are generally considered to be his successors, and who lack those attributes, haven't really done anything except create more division and undermine a lot his efforts.



This man has a point. Let the fat cracka be.

BonnerDynasty
01-23-2008, 12:31 PM
I am white and conservative.

I am not racist.

I hate everyone.

I am legend.

nacho
01-23-2008, 05:03 PM
TPark original post was sincere



Maybe you can get Kori to change under your name to read I Heart TPark

:lmao

whottt
01-23-2008, 05:35 PM
Maybe you can get Kori to change under your name to read I Heart TPark

:lmao

I've argued with TPark as much as anyone...and he's pissed me off plenty...but if he generally didn't like black people...he probably wouldn't be a basketball fan.


Does he like Spike Lee? Prolly not...I don't really either. But MLK was a uniter and Splike Lee is "kind" of a divider....look beyond the skin color and there aren't that many similarities between them.

Lance
01-23-2008, 05:42 PM
if he generally didn't like black people...he probably wouldn't be a basketball fan.



That may be the most racist post in this topic!

whottt
01-23-2008, 05:48 PM
That may be the most racist post in this topic!


The NBA is a majority black league....you want stats to back this up?

Heat Miser
01-23-2008, 05:49 PM
Who gives two shits weather TPark loves black people or not?

He is an asshole and likes to insult people on this board. And then tries to come out smelling like a rose by giving away Spurs tickets, jerseys, and buying steaks for the ST gtg's. He tries to use his wallet to look like a decent human but inside he is evil. And just picked the wrong topic to make end of story.

Now he will go into his (no one likes me so I will leave) mode and Jimc50 or Bigzax will make another "come back TPark!" we miss you topic.



Find a picture of Tpark shaking a black mans hand and I will take back what I have said. or you shaking Tpark's hand for that matter since your his #1 fan :lmao

monosylab1k
01-23-2008, 05:49 PM
The NBA is a majority black league
or as T Park would call it, a "majority minority race league"

BigZak
01-23-2008, 05:55 PM
where's the love for Abe Lincoln!

whottt
01-23-2008, 05:55 PM
Who gives two shits weather TPark love black people or not?

He is an asshole and likes to insult people on this board.

True...he does. He starts as much shit as anyone...


And then tries to come out smelling like a rose by giving away Spurs tickets, jerseys, and buying steaks for the ST gtg's.

Works for me...better than being an asshole and not doing anything nice.


He tries to use his wallet to look like a decent human

I think it's more like he tries to use his wallet to be a decent human being...


but inside he is evil.

LOL...whether he is or he isn't...he doesn't think he is, I don't think he's trying to be evil.




And picked the wrong topic to make. Find a picture of Tpark shaking a black mans hand and I will take back what I have said.

Maybe he gets rejected by black people he tries to be friends with...because they think he's a spoiled richboy who can't relate?


I still say that if he hated black people, he wouldn't be watching much NBA...

Heat Miser
01-23-2008, 05:56 PM
The NBA is a majority black league....you want stats to back this up?


I thought you just said you don't look at skin color?

whottt
01-23-2008, 06:01 PM
I thought you just said you don't look at skin color?

Um....I see skin color just like everyone else...it's probably the first thing I notice, like just about everyone else. It's an instinctive reaction, in almost everyone...however, I can and do look beyond it...because I want to be more than someone ruled by instincts alone....and because I know for a fact that there are things beyond...

Heat Miser
01-23-2008, 06:01 PM
I still say that if he hated black people, he wouldn't be watching much NBA...

He can always switch to the Golf channel.

Heat Miser
01-23-2008, 06:08 PM
I don't think it's about TPark hating black people it's more like Tpark and other whites acting like they love black people once a year. There is a difference.

When do you think Tpark will mention MLK in another topic?
Have you been to his carnival yet, how many black folks you see making funnel cakes?

I must hand it to you your the 3rd person to use up more than two pages defending Tpark and now the tripod is complete. TPark can die a happy man.

whottt
01-23-2008, 07:27 PM
I must hand it to you your the 3rd person to use up more than two pages defending Tpark and now the tripod is complete. TPark can die a happy man.


I just hope TPark remembers next time he's giving away tickets and a jersey :smokin

Heat Miser
01-23-2008, 07:35 PM
:lmao

T Park
01-23-2008, 07:55 PM
Gee Mouse, I Guess I should just be so nice to you, seeing as your being so nice to me.

Flight3107
01-23-2008, 08:09 PM
Shut it fatty

Heat Miser
01-23-2008, 09:27 PM
Gee Mouse, I Guess I should just be so nice to you, seeing as your being so nice to me.

Treat everyone the same and you won't have to think about who is behind the screen name and if you like them or not.


Besides if I was black, I wouldn't have to worry about you liking me it would be automatic.

:fro

Tree hugger
01-23-2008, 09:58 PM
I think TPark had good intentions when making this topic and I want you all to support him please! :)

whottt
01-23-2008, 10:16 PM
Tree Hugger is hot.

Lance
01-23-2008, 10:29 PM
Tree Hugger is hot.



Even if she was black?

Smackie Chan
01-23-2008, 11:22 PM
Gee Mouse, I Guess I should just be so nice to you,

And ruin good reading? People like you TPark make ST interesting to visit!





seeing as your being so nice to me.

You want nice? meet me in the TRoll forum!

:smokin






Keep in mind all the replies and so called race bait smack in this topic,

I never once said I was any better than you. :toast

whottt
01-24-2008, 12:20 AM
Even if she was black?


How do you know she's not black, racist?

Re-Animator
01-24-2008, 12:38 AM
How do you know she's not black, racist?

Is johnsmith one of your other screen names?

marini martini
01-24-2008, 12:40 AM
Is johnsmith one of your other screen names?


Ya think?????????????????????????? :toast

johnsmith
01-24-2008, 12:40 AM
Is johnsmith one of your other screen names?


You know, for someone that always claims I follow you around, you sure do bring me up a lot in random threads.

Re-Animator
01-24-2008, 12:55 AM
You know, for someone that always claims I follow you around, you sure do bring me up a lot in random threads.



You know, for someone that always claims you don't follow me
around, you sure do notice within 5 minutes each time I do bring up your name.

who's stalking who here? Let's get this shit straight if we are going to continue our online man love we seem to have for each other. I will let you stalk me first since you have ahead start.

:toast

T Park
01-24-2008, 12:59 AM
Tree Hugger is very hot... I could become an enviromentalist if that was the motivation :lol