Most heart-filled playoff performance you have seen

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For me, it would have to be Jake Delhomme in the SB against the Patriots. I watched a replay of this game last night on NFL Network. Still the best SB of all time, IMO.

No one gave the Panthers any chance, but the dude played his freakin butt off and nearly upset the Pats, and wasn't intimidated by them one bit. Even that dirty POS cheapshot artist Rodney Harrison tried to intimidate him by shoving him after he threw a TD, and Delhomme told him to fuck off. Only if John Kasay hadn't kicked it out of bounds... :dizzy

[NorCal510]

i appreciate your concern

[monosylab1k]

not even close

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not even close
STFU homer.

[monosylab1k]

If you want the most heart in a SB loss, look no further than Steve McNair. Dude played his guts out and got 1 yard away.

Thurman Thomas in the loss to the Giants was great too.

[J.T.]

Peyton Manning beating the Patriots with a bleeding, bum thumb on his throwing hand.

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Uhh... McNair had a nice final drive, that ended up a yard short. Delhomme actually scored a TD on his final drive, only to have the game taken away from him with a stupid kicker's mistake. Delhomme also made plays throughout the game, and every time the Patriots made a play or a drive, he would come right back with another. McNair was very average until the end of the game.

Let's not forget that Delhomme was pretty much a no-name in the league until that game. No one expected much of anything from him, and he delivered time and time again in that SB. The guy played his heart out.

[monosylab1k]

Uhh... McNair had a nice final drive, that ended up a yard short. Delhomme actually scored a TD on his final drive, only to have the game taken away from him with a stupid kicker's mistake. Delhomme also made plays throughout the game, and every time the Patriots made a play or a drive, he would come right back with another. McNair was very average until the end of the game.

Let's not forget that Delhomme was pretty much a no-name in the league until that game. No one expected much of anything from him, and he delivered time and time again in that SB. The guy played his heart out.
uhh two of delhomme's TD's were due to totally blown coverages, as admitted by Belichick himself. So "playing with heart" = "hitting Mushin Muhammad when no defenders are within 15 yards of him"????

as SpursDynasty would say, Delhomme was just making throws he was suppose to make against a New England defense that played absolutely atrocious all night. Seriously, Quincy Carter could have dropped 4 TD's on the Pats that day.

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uhh two of delhomme's TD's were due to totally blown coverages, as admitted by Belichick himself. So "playing with heart" = "hitting Mushin Muhammad when no defenders are within 15 yards of him"????

as SpursDynasty would say, Delhomme was just making throws he was suppose to make against a New England defense that played absolutely atrocious all night. Seriously, Quincy Carter could have dropped 4 TD's on the Pats that day.
He also led some very methodical and sustained drives at crucial times as well. And of all people to talk about throwing it up to someone and letting them do all the work... thats all Brady did with Deion Branch in the SB against the Eagles. Brady threw a lot of AWFUL throws that Branch somehow came up with a number of times, when they should have really been picked off. Brady got a ring that year BECAUSE of Branch bailing his ass out.

[monosylab1k]

He also led some very methodical and sustained drives at crucial times as well. And of all people to talk about throwing it up to someone and letting them do all the work... thats all Brady did with Deion Branch in the SB against the Eagles. Brady threw a lot of AWFUL throws that Branch somehow came up with a number of times, when they should have really been picked off. Brady got a ring that year BECAUSE of Branch bailing his ass out.
how do you "just throw it up and let the receiver do it all" when nearly everything branch caught was timing routes over the middle? last i checked Deion Branch was a 5'-9" slot receiver. That's about as smart as saying Brady just throws it up and lets Wes Welker do all the work.

[samikeyp]

Kellen Winslow against Miami in a 1982 Divisional game. It lasted 4 hours and 3min. in the heat and humidity. Dude had to keep getting IV's just to stay in.

13 catches, 166 yards and blocked the game winning FG attempt by Miami.

You seem him being helped off the field at the end and you wonder how he is even standing.

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how do you "just throw it up and let the receiver do it all" when nearly everything branch caught was timing routes over the middle? last i checked Deion Branch was a 5'-9" slot receiver. That's about as smart as saying Brady just throws it up and lets Wes Welker do all the work.
Mushin Muhammad is 6-2 and slow as crap, while Steve Smith is also only like 5-9.

Deion Branch was having to go out WAY of his way to save Brady's god-awful throws.

In more current times, Randy Moss has to go out of his way to catch Brady's bombs because 80% of the time they are underthrown by 5 yards.

[J.T.]

In more current times, Randy Moss has to go out of his way to catch Brady's bombs because 80% of the time they are underthrown by 5 yards.

It really makes me sick how much credit Brady got this year when Moss did that.

[midgetonadonkey]

It really makes me sick how much credit Brady got this year when Moss did that.

The same way Peyton gets so much credit when Harrison and Wayne do most of it.

[J.T.]

The same way Peyton gets so much credit when Harrison and Wayne do most of it.

But Peyton has been known to throw the ball to where only his guy can get it. Brady has consistently been bailed out by his receivers. About the only thing Brady has over Manning as far as quarterbacking skill is he throws a prettier spiral.

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But Peyton has been known to throw the ball to where only his guy can get it. Brady has consistently been bailed out by his receivers. About the only thing Brady has over Manning as far as quarterbacking skill is he throws a prettier spiral.
IMO, he handles blitz pressure better than Manning too. He doesn't seem quite as jittery and knows how to move in the pocket as well as anyone we've ever seen to buy time. Well... at least when the rush is coming from the outside. If teams get pressure up the middle, then he just curls in a ball and drops to the ground like a puss.

[slayermin]

Kellen Winslow against Miami in a 1982 Divisional game. It lasted 4 hours and 3min. in the heat and humidity. Dude had to keep getting IV's just to stay in.

13 catches, 166 yards and blocked the game winning FG attempt by Miami.

You seem him being helped off the field at the end and you wonder how he is even standing.

I would have to agree with this one. He wouldn't let the Chargers lose that game.

Also, Jack Youngblood deserves props for playing with a stress fracture in his left leg during the 79-80 playoffs.

[bostonguy]

Brady's first playoff win in the 2002 Divisional Round vs the Raiders. The game that showed the Patriots were destined to prove doubters wrong. Coming back from 10 down to tie it and then driving in overtime especially with that 4th down conversion to David Patten and winning it in dramatic fashion was a thing of beauty.

[J.T.]

Patriots - Adam Vinatieri = The Buffalo Bills

[bostonguy]

Patriots - Adam Vinatieri = The Buffalo Bills

Vinateri's kick in the snow and his kick in the superbowl were things of beauty. He was our x-factor. During that time you could be right about the Pats success without Adam. However this Pats team is so fucking good they score touchdowns but they have a trustworthy kicker in Grad.

[midgetonadonkey]

Patriots - Adam Vinatieri = The Buffalo Bills

Indianapolis Colts = 2002 Bucs, 2000 Ravens, Right Said Fred, Vanilla Ice, EMF, Tag Team, Tommy TuTone, etc.

[J.T.]

Indianapolis Colts = 2002 Bucs, 2000 Ravens, Right Said Fred, Vanilla Ice, EMF, Tag Team, Tommy TuTone, etc.

I bet you wish you could include the Texans in that list.

[midgetonadonkey]

I bet you wish you could include the Texans in that list.

After only 6 years in the league I'm happy with their progress and know that one day they will be included in the one hit wonder list.

[resistanze]

Whoomp! There It Is!

[monosylab1k]

Patriots - Adam Vinatieri = The Buffalo Bills
Indianapolis Colts - Rex Grossman = Dallas Mavericks

[J.T.]

Indianapolis Colts - Rex Grossman = Dallas Mavericks

Pre-2005 I would have agreed with you. The loss against the Steelers is wholly on the offensive line, they were horrible at protecting Peyton in that game, and the loss against the Chargers is on the defense. 402 yards and 3 TDs, the two picks aren't on Peyton at all. But 402 yards and 3 TDs and you're comparing Peyton to Dirk? Seriously? Dirk has yet to do dick in the playoffs other than beat the Spurs.

[greenroom]

Brady's first playoff win in the 2002 Divisional Round vs the Raiders. The game that showed the Patriots were destined to prove doubters wrong. Coming back from 10 down to tie it and then driving in overtime especially with that 4th down conversion to David Patten and winning it in dramatic fashion was a thing of beauty.

Please you mean the game that the officials gave to the Patriots. No matter what you say.. The tuck rule call changed the NFL. Had the Raiders won that game I wonder if we would look at the Pats the same.

[J.T.]

Please you mean the game that the officials gave to the Patriots. No matter what you say.. The tuck rule call changed the NFL. Had the Raiders won that game I wonder if we would look at the Pats the same.

They'd have zero rings if the tuck rule never happened.

[bostonguy]

Please you mean the game that the officials gave to the Patriots. No matter what you say.. The tuck rule call changed the NFL. Had the Raiders won that game I wonder if we would look at the Pats the same.

Sorry the tuck rule card doesnt cut the Raiders any slack. A broncos fan defending the Raiders?? :lmao :lmao :lmao During that time you guys were thanking us left and right for ending their season. Raiders had their chance in OT to stop the Patriots but they couldnt do it. 4th down in OT and the Raiders couldnt get that big stop. They had a 10 point lead in the 4th and couldnt hold it. They had a 3rd and short winning by 3 and could have iced the game with a first down but couldnt convert. They didnt go for it on 4th down either. Blaming the tuck rule is flat out comedy when they could have won that game in other ways. Did the Pats have luck in that game? Sure they did. Then again ALL great teams will have luck. Raiders gave up after that reverse tuck rule call. Not to mention that rule was legit as they stated that specific rule from the NFL rule book. You can call the rule stupid and dumb all you want but the fact remains it was a legit call.

[bostonguy]

They'd have zero rings if the tuck rule never happened.

:lmao :lmao :lmao I know that Pats/Colts game in Indy pissed you off that year. Remember when Troy Brown ran,threw, and caught a touchdown pass in that blowout at the RCA Dome?

[J.T.]

:lmao :lmao :lmao I know that Pats/Colts game in Indy pissed you off that year. Remember when Troy Brown ran,threw, and caught a touchdown pass in that blowout at the RCA Dome?

I thought ESPN and Friends keeping online records of box scores was cool until this troll came along and is trying to pass as a lifelong Pats fan when all he does is read wiki and old box scores.

[greenroom]

Sorry the tuck rule card doesnt cut the Raiders any slack. A broncos fan defending the Raiders?? :lmao :lmao :lmao During that time you guys were thanking us left and right for ending their season. Raiders had their chance in OT to stop the Patriots but they couldnt do it. 4th down in OT and the Raiders couldnt get that big stop. They had a 10 point lead in the 4th and couldnt hold it. They had a 3rd and short winning by 3 and could have iced the game with a first down but couldnt convert. They didnt go for it on 4th down either. Blaming the tuck rule is flat out comedy when they could have won that game in other ways. Did the Pats have luck in that game? Sure they did. Then again ALL great teams will have luck. Raiders gave up after that reverse tuck rule call. Not to mention that rule was legit as they stated that specific rule from the NFL rule book. You can call the rule stupid and dumb all you want but the fact remains it was a legit call.

Well I am a football fan first. Yes I love when the Raiders lose, but I hate when a team loses a game because of the Zebra's. It may have been in the rule book, but to my knowledge I do not ever remember the rule being enforced before. I would not call that luck to be honest.

But it is history the Pats won and the Raiders have gone to crap.

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Brady's first playoff win in the 2002 Divisional Round vs the Raiders. The game that showed the Patriots were destined to prove doubters wrong. Coming back from 10 down to tie it and then driving in overtime especially with that 4th down conversion to David Patten and winning it in dramatic fashion was a thing of beauty.
The only things truly impressive about that game was the fact that the refs would overturn an obvious fumble, and Adam Vinateri's kick (greatest kick of all time, HANDS DOWN)

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Indianapolis Colts - Rex Grossman = Dallas Mavericks
Patriots - Refs giving bullshit calls = 0 championships.

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You can call the rule stupid and dumb all you want but the fact remains it was a legit call.
It would have been legit if it was the correct call. But it wasn't.

[monosylab1k]

It would have been legit if it was the correct call. But it wasn't.
So one supposedly bad call excuses the fact that the Raiders played godawful the entire second half?

[monosylab1k]

Patriots - Refs giving bullshit calls = 0 championships.
Raiders - Jon Gruden = most pathetic franchise of the past 15 years.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Was it Harbaugh who almost led the underdog Colts over the Steelers in Pitt a few years back?

I remember blood all over his helmet from a cut on his hand.

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So one supposedly bad call excuses the fact that the Raiders played godawful the entire second half?
When they needed to make a play, they made one, and had it taken away from them. It's not easy to gain momentum when refs take what you earn away from you.

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Raiders - Jon Gruden = most pathetic franchise of the past 15 years.
Patriots - BS ref calls = 3 less rings than the Raiders have.

[monosylab1k]

When they needed to make a play, they made one, and had it taken away from them. It's not easy to gain momentum when refs take what you earn away from you.
Hmm the Pats and Chargers both did a pretty good job of bouncing back despite being repeatedly screwed over by the refs at the RCA Dome this year.

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Hmm the Pats and Chargers both did a pretty good job of bouncing back despite being repeatedly screwed over by the refs at the RCA Dome this year.
Kindly shut the fuck up. The Pats did not get screwed over by the refs in any way, shape, or form. They were just acting like bitches because the Colts actually gave them a good game.

[J.T.]

I'm taking the winner of this mono vs stretch match out for a few rounds of beers. Cost of beers not included

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Cost of beers not included
Cheapass.

[monosylab1k]

The Pats did not get screwed over by the refs in any way, shape, or form.
Yeah the pass interference on Hobbs when he didn't even touch Wayne and the ball was uncatchable....that was the right call. They had the exact same play happen against the Chargers too, I think Jammer was the guy who got screwed on that one.

I wouldn't put it past that asshole Polian to pay off the refs. He is everything that is wrong with the NFL. He can't win so he bitches until the rules get changed. He still can't win so he pipes in crowd noise. He finally wins one and now wants all those rules he had changed all changed back because now his team is suffering for it. What a bitch.

[FromWayDowntown]

Was it Harbaugh who almost led the underdog Colts over the Steelers in Pitt a few years back?

I remember blood all over his helmet from a cut on his hand.

It was. Those Colts won at San Diego in the wild card weekend and then beat the AFC's #1 seed, Kansas City, at Arrowhead in the Divisional Round. They had a 16-13 lead with under 2:00 to go, but Neil O'Donnell hit Ernie Mills on a deep ball to the goalline and Bam Morris punched it home with about 90 seconds left. Harbaugh drove the Colts to inside the Steelers' 30, and his last-second pass was sitting on Aaron Bailey's stomach, but instead of rolling over to his right, he rolled to his left and the ball rolled out and hit the ground.

I still think it's difficult to find a guttier individual performance than Winslow's game in Miami.

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Yeah the pass interference on Hobbs when he didn't even touch Wayne and the ball was uncatchable....that was the right call. They had the exact same play happen against the Chargers too, I think Jammer was the guy who got screwed on that one.

There was also a PI called against the Colts when it was actually Moss who pushed off and ended up getting a TD. I'd say that a TD as opposed to yards is a much bigger influence for a game.


I wouldn't put it past that asshole Polian to pay off the refs. He is everything that is wrong with the NFL. He can't win so he bitches until the rules get changed.

If Ty Law didn't get away with straight up grabbing, holding, and pushing on Harrison, then the rules wouldn't have needed to have been fixed. Besides, all this shit that you defend... if they happened to the Patriots, you would be pissed as hell too. If Bob Sanders did to Randy Moss what Ty Law did to Harrison, you too would start an unsuccesful petition to have Bob Sanders to be banned from the NFL.


He still can't win so he pipes in crowd noise.

Proof?