McCain Wins Florida!

[AFBlue]

Looks like a pretty sound victory (5 points) based on all the polls that had it deadlocked and going either way.

From here, as stated in another thread, it looks like he's going to pick up the endorsement of Giuliani and will probably see a number of establishment Republicans rally around him as the candidate that can defeat the Democratic nominee in November.

I won't count out Romney because he certainly has the money to compete (ads, organization, etc.) across the country, but I think it will be an uphill battle if he chooses to take it on.

My guess is that McCain gets a sizeable bump in the polls for most, if not all, of the Feb 5th states, and will win many of those going away. At that point, it will be a matter of time before he becomes the eventual nominee and he can begin preparing to face either the lady lobbyist or the junior senator with zero experience.

For now though, I thought this was an impressive win that certainly sets him up to go much further. BIG WIN TONIGHT!

[Holt's Cat]

Who cares he's still a fraud.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

ROFL

Looks like having downed five pints of GWB's sea people per month for about 7 years is finally paying off for ole McCain.
I wonder when Romney is going to use the Keating Five card.

[JoeChalupa]

Why are do I hear so much from Rush Limpballs and other conservative pundits on how much they are against McCain? Why are they so against a National Hero who is pro Iraq War, supported the surge and a change in strategy in Iraq long before Bush ever conceded to do so. Is as strong as they come on National defense and is, as far as I'm concerned, a man who will bring honor to the White House?

[Holt's Cat]

Probably because he's more often than not supported non- and anti-conservative positions in blatant attention hogging grabs. Not that I care that much about any radio host, but McCain's as fine of an example of what's wrong with DC as any other congressman. Plus he wants the US to maintain a military presence in Iraq for decades.

There's not really much of a choice in this election at the top. Well, Obama can give one hell of a speech.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Probably because he's more often than not supported non- and anti-conservative positions in blatant attention hogging grabs. Not that I care that much about any radio host, but McCain's as fine of an example of what's wrong with DC as any other congressman. Plus he wants the US to maintain a military presence in Iraq for decades.

There's not really much of a choice in this election at the top. Well, Obama can give one hell of a speech.

Considering just about everybody in DC is also a part of the problem, it's pretty much ceased to become a negative. Really, anybody who's gargled enough balls to legitimately be considered for the presidency has some scrupulous ethics. That said, I'm voting for McCain.

[Holt's Cat]

So let's tune them out.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

I liked McCain a lot more pre-2000, when he seemed more genuine and more willing to break from the party line. After the GOP totally fucked him over, he seemed to bend over and take it. Hopefully he's just doing this to be elected.

[Holt's Cat]

The GOP has fucked its conservative base over again and again. We were told that the ballooning deficits under Reagan were due to a Democrat controlled Congress and expediting the end of the Cold War. Bush41 raised taxes and seemed ever willing to compromise at the first sign of trouble. Then we had the story of the evil socialist Bill Clinton bravely held off by congressional Republicans. And then, the GOP had control of the Executive and Legislative branches of the federal government, supposedly led by "conservatives", true believers of the Reagan revolution, a revolution based on the teachings of the apostle Barry, who told us that government should be 'off of our backs, out of our wallets, and out of our bedrooms'. And what did we get? The federal government at its largest size ever, firmly fixed in every possible orifice. McCain is yet another in this tradition.

[braeden0613]

Considering just about everybody in DC is also a part of the problem, it's pretty much ceased to become a negative. Really, anybody who's gargled enough balls to legitimately be considered for the presidency has some scrupulous ethics. That said, I'm voting for McCain.
That's probably one of the worst reasons ive ever heard to vote for someone. So, because Mccain is so corrupt, he's scrupulous?

[Wild Cobra]

The GOP has fucked its conservative base over again and again. We were told that the ballooning deficits under Reagan were due to a Democrat controlled Congress and expediting the end of the Cold War. Bush41 raised taxes and seemed ever willing to compromise at the first sign of trouble. Then we had the story of the evil socialist Bill Clinton bravely held off by congressional Republicans. And then, the GOP had control of the Executive and Legislative branches of the federal government, supposedly led by "conservatives", true believers of the Reagan revolution, a revolution based on the teachings of the apostle Barry, who told us that government should be 'off of our backs, out of our wallets, and out of our bedrooms'. And what did we get? The federal government at its largest size ever, firmly fixed in every possible orifice. McCain is yet another in this tradition.
Well, I think you know as well as I what happened. George Bush is a neocon because he is an old school democrat that is a republican. So are the likes of Giuliani and McCain. These guys have some conservative values, but they have as many liberal values.

Look at what happens to any real conservative. They are demonized by the democrats and run out by slanders and distorted truth. Just think about how they target powerful conservatives and force them out if they don't play ball with the slimbags. No wonder the few conservatives who are left take a real stand.

[boutons_]

"few conservatives who are left take a real stand."

What's the matter? Their bark is strong, but their balls shrivel up?

movement conservatism and neo-cunts have been much better organized for much longer with $Bs invested, since Nixon fell, than any "vast left wing conspiracy".

[Homeland Security]

McCain is against torture. He doesn't take Homeland Security seriously enough. We need a candidate who isn't afraid to use creative means to thwart the actions of terrorists who resist the interests of the business class.

[Holt's Cat]

Now that McCain thinks he's ahead he's going to start to gloat and when he does that he'll end up saying something stupid that will either piss off the base to no end or will open a path for Clinton to win it all.

And he hates "gooks (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/02/18/MN32194.DTL)".

[O-Factor]

Now that McCain thinks he's ahead he's going to start to gloat and when he does that he'll end up saying something stupid that will either piss off the base to no end or will open a path for Clinton to win it all.

And he hates "gooks (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/02/18/MN32194.DTL)".

:lmao

[Holt's Cat]

http://opinionjournal.com/ecc/calculator.htm

All the Democrat candidate would have to do is take Ohio this time around and they win. Maybe it's winning the duo of Missouri and Iowa instead. And of course Florida could swing it.

I think the Clinton campaign could pull off one of those scenarios.

[JoeChalupa]

I do to.

[Holt's Cat]

Here are states that Bush won in '04 that I could easily see going over to the Dems in '08, given a weak economy, Iraq fatigue, etc..

New Mexico 5 electoral votes
Rep 49.8% Dem 49.0%

Nevada 5 electoral votes
Rep 50.5% Dem 47.9%

Colorado 9 electoral votes
Rep 51.7% Dem 47.0%

Ohio 20 electoral votes
Rep 50.8% Dem 48.7%

Florida 27 electoral votes
Rep 52.1% Dem 47.1%

Iowa 7 electoral votes
Rep 49.9% Dem 49.2%

Missouri 11 electoral votes
Rep 53.3% Dem 46.1%

Not to mention states like Arkansas, Louisiana, and West Virginia. In '04 you had a sitting president up against a rather weak opponent and he only managed to squeak out a 34 electoral vote win with the narrowest of popular vote margins for a sitting president up for re-election in a long time. The Clintons know how to win presidential elections.

Whoever the GOP candidate is, they will have their work cut out for them.

[Nbadan]

Oh happy day...


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"I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live."

[Nbadan]

What's so moderate about McCain?

The “Partial-Birth Abortion” Ban: For

Upholding Roe v. Wade: Against

Ending debate on extremist judges: For

Adequate sex education for Global HIV/AIDS prevention: Against

Extending the right to choose to our servicewomen: Against

Giving a fetus rights in the event of a violent crime: For

Hate crimes legislation: Against

Voted NO on minimum wage increase every time

Voted NO on SCHIP reauthorization

NO on Habeas Corpus for Detainees

YES on the Bankruptcy "reform" law

NO to rules stopping price-gouging during emergencies, etc. etc. etc.

[Holt's Cat]

What's so moderate about McCain?

The “Partial-Birth Abortion” Ban: For




To oppose is not exactly a "moderate" position.

[Nbadan]

To oppose is not exactly a "moderate" position.

....depends on what you believe to be 'partial birth'....

[OldDirtMcGirt]

That's probably one of the worst reasons ive ever heard to vote for someone. So, because Mccain is so corrupt, he's scrupulous?

I'm voting for McCain because his policies are closest to mine. I don't think Obama, McCain, Romney, or Clinton are squeaky clean, and I don't agree with Ron Paul or Huckabee on policy.