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Ryvin1
01-30-2008, 01:23 PM
http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?PressID=991&org_name=NTUF

For Immediate Release Jan 29, 2008
For Further Information, Contact:
Peter J. Sepp, Natasha Altamirano, Demian Brady, (703) 683-5700
Study: Presidential Frontrunners Would Boost Federal Budget by Range of $7 Billion to $287 Billion Annually



(Alexandria, VA) -- Presidential contenders have been busy portraying their political differences from others inside and outside of their parties, but when it comes to fiscal policy, ideological labels don't necessarily apply. That's just one finding of a comprehensive study from the National Taxpayers Union Foundation (NTUF), which provides cost estimates -- based on hard data -- for more than 450 of the major candidates’ proposals that would affect the federal budget.

"Our analyses hopefully will help taxpayers distinguish political posturing from concrete proposals -- many of which would significantly change the size and make-up of the federal budget," NTUF Senior Policy Analyst Demian Brady said. "As the public-policy debate on the campaign trail nears its 'Super Tuesday' peak next week, we're providing Americans with the chance to systematically examine how future budget plans may affect their own future finances."

NTUF assumed the most conservative cost estimates of federal outlays based on a variety of sources, including the candidates' own projections; summaries from the Congressional Budget Office, Congressional Research Service, and the White House Office of Management and Budget; and results from equivalent legislation from NTUF's BillTally cost accounting system. Among the general findings of the eight reports, analyzing six Republicans and two Democrats:

* The eight candidates proposed a combined total of 189 items that would increase federal spending, 24 items that would decrease it, and 238 items whose budgetary impacts are unknown -- in addition to dozens of sub-items further detailing program components. The four respective frontrunners in the two parties (John McCain, Mitt Romney, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama), proposed overall fiscal policy agendas whose net effect would raise annual federal outlays between $6.9 billion and $287.0 billion.
* The top-tier GOP candidates often portrayed as "conservative" (Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee) actually called for significantly larger spending hikes ($19.5 billion and $54.2 billion, respectively), than the so-called "moderate conservative" (John McCain, $6.9 billion).
* Among Democrats, Barack Obama, often described as ideologically more "moderate" than Hillary Clinton, actually has the larger agenda of the two ($287.0 billion vs. $218.2 billion).
* Defense-related spending items received the highest proposed spending increases among Republican candidates. Huckabee and Romney, for example, offered $67.2 billion and $40.6 billion, respectively. Among Democrats, Clinton's biggest boost goes toward health care ($113.6 billion) and Obama's for economy, transportation, and infrastructure ($105.0 billion).
* Two of the eight candidates proposed sufficient spending cuts that more than offset their new spending plans: Rudy Giuliani (-$1.4 billion) and Ron Paul (-$150.1 billion).

NTUF is the nonpartisan research arm of the 362,000-member National Taxpayers Union, a citizen group founded in 1969. Note: Due to time constraints, NTUF staff were unable to complete a report for Democratic candidate John Edwards. For the full reports, graphs of the data, and audio analysis from NTUF staff, visit www.ntu.org.

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Related Links:

* Presidential Candidate Spending Analyses
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inconvertible
01-30-2008, 01:32 PM
you know who! :danceclub

inconvertible
01-30-2008, 01:33 PM
watch "the only one"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWL7F4nK_Yw

Wild Cobra
01-30-2008, 10:09 PM
The article that cannot be wrong.

Idiots will think the author is a genius.

Think about it. Inflation and interest on the debt will increase the next budget by well over the $7 billion which means to achieve that number, real spending must decrease.

Please, don't give this thread any more time. It's worthless in my view.

Ryvin1
01-31-2008, 04:49 PM
The article that cannot be wrong.

Idiots will think the author is a genius.

Think about it. Inflation and interest on the debt will increase the next budget by well over the $7 billion which means to achieve that number, real spending must decrease.

Please, don't give this thread any more time. It's worthless in my view.

The article is a overall breakdown of each candidates proposed plans, if you goto the site they list each item someone proposes and it's costs. Most of your comments are very valid even if I don't agree with them, but I don't understand this one.

I believe spending should also be decreased, and this article shows the spending proposed by each candidate, and by how much they would have to expand the budget with their proposals. The detail breakdown of each candidate's from that site is actually pretty enlightening you should check it out before condemning the information.

Wild Cobra
01-31-2008, 09:36 PM
Maybe I jumped the gun, but I cannot believe they released somethng so obvious, and poorly phrased.

http://www.ntu.org/images/2008pres_nondefense.png

Nbadan
02-01-2008, 12:53 AM
meanwhile...back in reality...


WASHINGTON -- George W. Bush took office in 2001 with budget surpluses projected to stretch years into the future. But it's almost certain that when he returns to Texas next year, the president will leave behind a trail of deficits and debt that will sharply constrain his successor.

On Monday, the president will unveil a $3 trillion-plus budget request for his final year, which is likely to show a deficit of more than $400 billion. New details of the budget emerged yesterday, with officials saying the White House plans to keep a lid on nonsecurity discretionary spending. It wants to cut about $200 billion from the government's medical programs for seniors and the poor.

The longer-term picture is darker. Despite his efforts, Mr. Bush failed to work out a deal with Congress to tackle the spiraling costs of government health and retirement programs. The next president, if he or she serves two terms, could find the U.S. government so deeply in hock that it would face losing its Triple-A credit rating, something that has never happened since Moody's Investors Service began grading U.S. securities in 1917.

As a result, the ambitions of Mr. Bush's successor to cut taxes, institute universal health care or aid troubled homeowners might have to give way to the reality of soaring costs for Social Security, the Medicare program for the elderly and the Medicaid program for the poor.

"We kicked this can down the road about as long as it can be," Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, a North Dakota Democrat, said at a hearing this week. "It will absolutely bedevil the next administration."

Austan Goolsbee, a University of Chicago economist and adviser to Sen. Barack Obama, says that Mr. Bush has left his successor with little wiggle room. Sen. Obama has called for allowing some of the Bush tax cuts to expire as scheduled in 2010. Mr. Obama has also said he would like to remove the salary cap on the payroll taxes that fund Social Security.

Sen. Hillary Clinton, the other contender for the Democratic presidential nomination, identifies spending cuts or tax increases that she says would pay for almost every campaign initiative. For instance, she says she'd pay for a $10 billion-a-year universal preschool education plan by cutting the ranks of federal contractors by 500,000 and cracking down on no-bid government contracts. Mr. Bush "has rightly earned the legacy of being our nation's most fiscally irresponsible president," says Brian Deese, deputy economic director for the Clinton campaign. "As a result, the next president is going to have to deal with that."

Mr. McCain, the Republican front-runner, hasn't laid out a plan to deal with the looming fiscal crunch. But he has suggested that better-off seniors be required to pay more for drugs and outpatient visits, as a way of controlling Medicare costs. Distancing himself from the current administration and his party, Mr. McCain also calls for drug re-importation from Canada and negotiating prices with pharmaceutical companies.

Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120183030007834031.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news)

Wild Cobra
02-01-2008, 09:46 PM
Dan, will you stop posting propaganda please?

The recession started before president Bush took office. That already made all projected surplusses null and void.

Wild Cobra
02-06-2008, 01:56 AM
Another thing to consider. If congress decides to spend the same amount as they take in, and convienently forget to pay any interest on the debt, and the FY2007 rate stays the ssame through 2008, then FY 2008 debt will increase from $8,993,653,000 to $9,426,878,000.

FY 2007 report:

FINANCIAL AUDIT
Bureau of the Public Debt’s Fiscal Years 2007 and 2006 Schedules of Federal Debt (http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/feddebt/feddebt_ann2007.pdf)

ChumpDumper
02-06-2008, 02:23 AM
Thank God Bush vetoed those budgets.