Parker Medical Update

[Kori Ellis]

TONY PARKER MEDICAL UPDATE

SAN ANTONIO – The San Antonio Spurs today announced that Tony Parker underwent an MRI on his left ankle on Wednesday in San Antonio. The results showed that Parker is suffering from chronic inflammation and confirmed there is no structural damage in his ankle.

Parker received anti-inflammatory shots today which are designed to decrease the swelling in his ankle joint.

No timeline has been set for his return. Parker will not travel with the Spurs on the team's six-game Eastern road trip which starts on Tuesday in Indiana.

[ancestron]

This is good, right? No mention of bone spurs though.

[MoSpur]

Sounds more like Timmy's plantar f_ _ _ _

[Kori Ellis]

I don't know why the MRI was all about his ankle and not about his heel. I thought those were two separate issues he's having.

[Phenomanul]

CIA Pop medical release?

[timvp]

I guess it's good news that there is no structural damage. Weird that it doesn't mention bone spurs at all.

If he returns after the All-Star break, he will have missed three weeks of action. I'd probably hold him out a little while longer to make sure that his ankle can get right.

Now the Spurs need to start winning games so that they can afford to hold Parker out. If the Spurs keep losing without him then the team might be forced to bring him back before he's ready.

[G-Nob]

Inflammation in the ankel sounds a helluva lot better than bone spurs. At least we can say theres a better shot they won't have to shut him down for the year.

[thispego]

He should be travelling with the team.

[mVp]

Well... great news, I guess!

[ancestron]

This issue is confusing. One day they say it's his heel, the next it's his ankle, then it's the heel again, then the ankle again.
wtf?

[oligarchy]

There may be confusion about the issue. Heel spurs are typically associated with plantar faciitis. When there is a serverely swollen plantar fascia, it can also radiate up to the ankle. They may have thought because of the symptoms, there may also be a problem with the ankles. The anti-inflamatory will aleviate any ankle pain associated with the plantar faciitis. (If that's truly the case). Just speculation.

[ploto]

So the bone spurs in his heel are not the reason they held him out, but in actuality it's his ankle problems.

Is the left ankle the same one from the summer, and if so, doesn't that make people even madder about his playing over the summer when he knew he had an ankle problem?

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

This is good, right? No mention of bone spurs though.



yes it's good, but if the SPurs lose most it not all these games, HELLO LOTTERY

[timvp]

This issue is confusing. One day they say it's his heel, the next it's his ankle, then it's the heel again, then the ankle again.
wtf?Both are related. The injury originated with the French National Team over the summer and it never healed properly. He re-injured the ankle at the end of November and at the time his whole ankle and heel area got inflamed.

Maybe he doesn't even have heel spurs but was diagnosed with heel spurs due to his symptoms. I don't remember the heel spurs diagnosis involving an MRI.

Basically, this is France's fault. They made him play through the injury instead of getting the proper rest and he entered the season with a weakened ankle which has led to all of this.

:pctoss

[VaSpursFan]

good news that it's only his ankle unless this is a CIA press release :lol

[THE SIXTH MAN]

yes it's good, but if the SPurs lose most it not all these games, HELLO LOTTERY
Hello Micheal Beasley! :hungry:

[ploto]

There may be confusion about the issue. Heel spurs are typically associated with plantar faciitis. When there is a serverely swollen plantar fascia, it can also radiate up to the ankle. They may have thought because of the symptoms, there may also be a problem with the ankles. The anti-inflamatory will aleviate any ankle pain associated with the plantar faciitis. (If that's truly the case). Just speculation.
BUt it says he has swelling in his ankle joint. I don't think PF causes that.

[Man In Black]

The french basketball federation has to pay a portion of my league pass since their arcane ways of treatment is limiting my ability to watch Tony Parker dominate :bang

[ploto]

Basically, this is France's fault. They made him play through the injury instead of getting the proper rest and he entered the season with a weakened ankle which has led to all of this.

Now you know somewhat how Raptors fans feel about the Spanish doctors and their insistence that Garbajosa was fine to play when the Raptors doctors said he needed another surgery.

[Bruno]

It's just wrong to blame French NT for what happens with Parker.

People to blame are Spurs' doctor and Parker. Parker said yesterday that he is in that situation because he hasn't sit enough in December after his injury.

[phxspurfan]

Now you know somewhat how Raptors fans feel about the Spanish doctors and their insistence that Garbajosa was fine to play when the Raptors doctors said he needed another surgery.


Who are the Raptors? Is that a WNBA team? :spin

[timvp]

Now you know somewhat how Raptors fans feel about the Spanish doctors and their insistence that Garbajosa was fine to play when the Raptors doctors said he needed another surgery.Yeah except George Garbage sucks with or without an ankle.

[timvp]

It's just wrong to blame French NT for what happens with Parker.I disagree. Don't you remember the French doctors calling it a very slight twist and were appalled when the Spurs made Parker come back to San Antonio to get the ankle looked at? The French NT basically said that if Parker didn't come back to play that he'd never be asked to play for France again. The responsible thing to do was to admit it wasn't a slight injury and let Parker sit out the tournament ... that France ended up losing anyways.

Since that point this summer, Parker hasn't been 100%. If he would have skipped the tournament, he wouldn't be having all these problems.

Now the Spurs just have to hope that there is enough time in the season to get Parker healthy or else this season is already over.

[porscha]

Parker received anti-inflammatory shots today which are designed to decrease the swelling in his ankle joint.

.[/B]

if just some simple shots can solve the problem why took so long to do it?

what about the flu? bone spur? anything else?

weired :wakeup

[porscha]

there is nothing wrong for TP played for the Franch, that is his country, I respect that.

[Bruno]

I disagree. Don't you remember the French doctors calling it a very slight twist and were appalled when the Spurs made Parker come back to San Antonio to get the ankle looked at?

Spurs' doctor clear Parker to play one week after his injury.




Since that point this summer, Parker hasn't been 100%.

:rolleyes
You shouldn't have watch Spurs in November.
November 2007 has arguably been Parker's best regular season month of his career.

[Kori Ellis]

if just some simple shots can solve the problem why took so long to do it?


I don't think simple shots solve it. They probably just help relieve it. Only rest and time can probably solve it.

[thispego]

So the bone spurs in his heel are not the reason they held him out, but in actuality it's his ankle problems.

Is the left ankle the same one from the summer, and if so, doesn't that make people even madder about his playing over the summer when he knew he had an ankle problem?

I'll say it again: IF PARKER EVER CHOSES TO PLAY FOR HIS NATIONAL TEAM IN THE OFFSEASON AGAIN DURING THE MIDDLE OF OUR FUCKING DYNASTY WE NEED TO CUT/TRADE HIS ASS IMMEDIATELY. NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

[N4th4n]

I expect Tony to make a very fast revocery now that Damon Stoudemire is safely in the bag.

[timvp]

Spurs' doctor clear Parker to play one week after his injury.Which injury? The one in November?



:rolleyes
You shouldn't have watch Spurs in November.
November 2007 has arguably been Parker's best regular season month of his career.There is a difference between playing well and being 100%. His November injury was a non-contact injury. You only get non-contact ankle injuries if your ankle isn't 100% to begin with.

[Spurs Brazil]

Jeff McDonald: Spurs say Parker will miss rest of rodeo trip
Injured Spurs point guard Tony Parker, already sent home from the western portion of the team's annual rodeo road trip, won't make the upcoming six-game eastern leg either, the team announced Thursday.

Parker has what doctors are calling a chronic inflammation of the left ankle. An MRI conducted Wednesday in San Antonio revealed no structural damage.

The Spurs' third-leading scorer at 19.2 points per game, Parker was sent home from the team's road trip after Monday's loss at Utah, in which he scored five points in 33 minutes. He did not play in Tuesday's loss at Seattle and will watch tonight's game at Phoenix from home as well.

Parker received an anti-inflammatory shot on Thursday, in hopes of decreasing the swelling in his ankle. The Spurs have to hope that the real cure for what ails Parker is just good old-fashioned rest.

After tonight's game at Phoenix, the Spurs will return to San Antonio for four days off, after which they hit the road for a six-game trip that will take them to Indiana, Washington, New York, Boston, Toronto and Cleveland.

Not coincidentally, Parker's absence comes as the Spurs continue to court veteran point guard Damon Stoudamire, who received a buyout from his contract in Memphis earlier this week. Stoudamire's agent, Aaron Goodwin, told the Express-News he expected his client to sign with the Spurs as early as Thursday.

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/archives/2008/01/jeff_mcdonald_p_5.html

[Shelly]

There may be confusion about the issue. Heel spurs are typically associated with plantar faciitis. When there is a serverely swollen plantar fascia, it can also radiate up to the ankle. They may have thought because of the symptoms, there may also be a problem with the ankles. The anti-inflamatory will aleviate any ankle pain associated with the plantar faciitis. (If that's truly the case). Just speculation.

Ya...hubby heel spurs usually end up being planter faciitis.

[dbreiden83080]

Great decision playing this summer Tony, real sharp. :drunk

[WalterBenitez]

OMG that ankle will hurt, I suffered that for two years ... :pctoss without the french we are done ...

I hope Eva could take care of the boy, meaning stop making Kama Sutra :rolleyes

[Bruno]

Which injury? The one in November?

The one in July.



There is a difference between playing well and being 100%. His November injury was a non-contact injury. You only get non-contact ankle injuries if your ankle isn't 100% to begin with.

I guess timvp is in whottt mode and he will never admit that he is wrong.

Anyway, continue to claim that it's French doctors fault as much as you want but you make no sense by saying that.

[Que Gee]

Weird that it doesn't mention bone spurs at all.

:smokin

[tlongII]

TONY PARKER MEDICAL UPDATE

SAN ANTONIO – The San Antonio Spurs today announced that Tony Parker underwent an MRI on his left ankle on Wednesday in San Antonio. The results showed that Parker is suffering from chronic inflammation and confirmed there is no structural damage in his ankle.

Parker received anti-inflammatory shots today which are designed to decrease the swelling in his ankle joint.

No timeline has been set for his return. Parker will not travel with the Spurs on the team's six-game Eastern road trip which starts on Tuesday in Indiana.


Oh REEEAAAALLLY? If there is no structural damage, then why is there chronic inflammation?

[timvp]

The one in July. The Spurs cleared him one week later? The same injury that had Parker sit out all of training camp and almost all of preseason.


I guess timvp is in whottt modeHarsh :depressed


Anyway, continue to claim that it's French doctors fault as much as you want but you make no sense by saying that.Is there anyone who doesn't think this current situation doesn't go all the way back to the injury the French NT wanted him to play through?

[Kori Ellis]

Oh REEEAAAALLLY? If there is no structural damage, then why is there chronic inflammation?

You better stop being so happy about Parker's injury. Your team might destruct any second.

[nkdlunch]

when france has a shot of winning Olympic gold, that's when Parker should be allowed to play for them again

[Kori Ellis]

Weird that it doesn't mention bone spurs at all.

I'm guessing Parker has just had a lot of pain in his heel because of his ankle problem. Hopefully these weeks off will help the ankle heal completely. And hopefully in the meantime, the Spurs don't go into a 10-12 game losing streak.

[ChumpDumper]

Oh REEEAAAALLLY? If there is no structural damage, then why is there chronic inflammation?You're a chronic inflammation, doctor.

[tlongII]

You better stop being so happy about Parker's injury. Your team might destruct any second.

I'm not happy about his injury. I just think that's a lame-ass press release.

[Phenomanul]

I'm not happy about his injury. I just think that's a lame-ass press release.


Or the most ingenious...

[Kori Ellis]

I'm not happy about his injury. I just think that's a lame-ass press release.

You are happy. You have been dancing about it for the last week, trying to convince the world that he needs surgery.

[Bruno]

The Spurs cleared him one month later?

No.
When Parker goes to SA in early August, one week after his injury, Spurs' doctor told Parker that he could play again. They give him no timetable for a return and no treatment to do.
How the hell you could blame French medical staff to have done a mistake while he was cleared by Spurs' medical staff ?



The same injury that had Parker sit out all of training camp and almost all of preseason.

Parker sit out half of the training camp because wanted to put him in the weight room and want to give some rest before the season.



Is there anyone who doesn't think this current situation doesn't go all the way back to the injury the French NT wanted him to play through?

It's not like spraining an ankle is the most common basketball related injury.
It's not like Parker played well with Spurs and French NT after his first injury.

Even if the second injury is a consequence of the first one, blame Spurs' doctor who have cleared him in August.

[diego]

well, the spurs doctors are at least partially responsible, for not picking up on this earlier- if there was already potential for this in july/august/september, why wasnt anyone monitoring it?

also, its obvious pro athletes always play through things, but it looks like tony needs to pay more attention to his body!

[Bruno]

Bone spurs consequence is an inflammation of the tissues.
I guess that parker bone spurs isn't big enough to create inflammation when he is healthy.
The sprain ankle has created an inflammation of these tissues. Parker's tissues were weaker after it and the bone spur was big enough to create the inflammation of tissue that were still weak.

If it's the case, Parker's bone spur shouldn't be a trouble when the inflammation will be fully gone. It could mean that Parker will be at 100% for the rest of the season after the ASG.

[Hemotivo]

http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/funny/shit-happens.jpg

[Hemotivo]

he'll be ok

he's young

[boutons_]

I really doubt Tony will miss only the RRT.

He was already off a week or more this season, and that rest didn't fix his ankle.
I figure he's gone all of Feb, meaning the Spurs could have a real problem in Mar and Apr trying to make the playoffs.

After tonight, Spurs will be only 2 games ahead of 9th seed.

[tlongII]

You are happy. You have been dancing about it for the last week, trying to convince the world that he needs surgery.


I'm just posting the posts I'm supposed to post.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I don't think simple shots solve it. They probably just help relieve it. Only rest and time can probably solve it.did someone say vaccinations?
:lol:lol:lol

[G-Nob]

Let us not worry about Tony's ankle, people. Lets worry more about the rest of the team playing some F'n perimeter defense.

[peskypesky]

is this just severe tendinitis?

[peskypesky]

Tendinitis is an inflammation of the tendon.Tendinitis of the ankle can involve the Achilles tendon, the posterior tibial tendon, or the peroneal tendon. This condition usually results from trauma, but can result from underlying inflammatory diseases or illnesses such as reactive arthritis (formerly called Reiter's syndrome), rheumatoid arthritis, and ankylosing spondylitis. All forms of tendinitis cause pain, swelling, and tenderness in the tendon area involved. The onset may be rapid, such as with an athletic injury. Immediate treatment involves immobilizing the area, elevation, and limiting weight bearing, applying ice, and using nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) to decrease inflammation. NSAIDs such as naproxen (Naprosyn) or ketoprofen (Orudis) are commonly used for this purpose. More severe inflammation can require orthopedic casting. Athletic participation should be limited when the tendon is still inflamed, as there is a significant risk of rupturing or tearing the tendon, especially in the Achilles area, with continued athletic activity.

[urunobili]

Tendinitis is an inflammation of the tendon.Tendinitis of the ankle can involve the Achilles tendon, the posterior tibial tendon, or the peroneal tendon. This condition usually results from trauma, but can result from underlying inflammatory diseases or illnesses such as reactive arthritis (formerly called Reiter's syndrome), rheumatoid arthritis, and ankylosing spondylitis. All forms of tendinitis cause pain, swelling, and tenderness in the tendon area involved. The onset may be rapid, such as with an athletic injury. Immediate treatment involves immobilizing the area, elevation, and limiting weight bearing, applying ice, and using nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) to decrease inflammation. NSAIDs such as naproxen (Naprosyn) or ketoprofen (Orudis) are commonly used for this purpose. More severe inflammation can require orthopedic casting. Athletic participation should be limited when the tendon is still inflamed, as there is a significant risk of rupturing or tearing the tendon, especially in the Achilles area, with continued athletic activity.
thanks for the explanation... i have had tendinitis myself and it is a bitch to get out of it unless you treat it the right way... i think the spurs medical staff should have shut down tony when the pain begun...

[pad300]

I hope Eva could take care of the boy, meaning stop making Kama Sutra :rolleyes

I'm thinking that your looking at this wrong. In how many of those positions is the man's ankle weight bearing? It's also good cardiovascular exercise so he keeps up his conditioning... I'm thinking go for it. Just remember to keep your dribble and shot in practice (from a chair).

[T Park]

Good to hear nothing else is worse.

[Budkin]

Good news! Rest up Tony!

[picnroll]

It's just wrong to blame French NT for what happens with Parker.

People to blame are Spurs' doctor and Parker. Parker said yesterday that he is in that situation because he hasn't sit enough in December after his injury.
BS

[Bruno]

BS

http://www.rmc.fr/edito/sport/29204/parker-j-ai-fait-une-croix-sur-le-all-star-game-/


Je m’étais blessé début décembre, ce qui m’avait obligé de louper quatre matchs. A mon avis, je suis revenu trop tôt. Il aurait fallu que je m’arrête un peu plus longtemps.


Translation :
"I was hurt in early December. I had to miss 4 games because of that. I think that I came back too fast. I should have stayed out a little more time"

[Obstructed_View]

Shutting Parker down until he's healthy is a great decision. I wouldn't rush him back if the Spurs lost the next 15. Some of the other guys need to learn how to contribute without him there anyway. If they can't do that, then the Spurs might as well be in the lottery. If they are healthy by the playoffs, they can win as the 8 seed.

[T Park]

Parker getting this ankle hurt in the summer oughtta make Pop put the goddamn foot down.

NO MORE INTERNATIONAL PLAY!!!

[picnroll]

http://www.rmc.fr/edito/sport/29204/parker-j-ai-fait-une-croix-sur-le-all-star-game-/




Translation :
"I was hurt in early December. I had to miss 4 games because of that. I think that I came back too fast. I should have stayed out a little more time"
Not BS that Parker said that. BS that he should have played this summer. Parker was going to play whether it was good for him or not, before and after he got injured. He should have been shut down earlier by the Spurs as well. Got has to realize he's screwing with and jeoparidizing a career.

[Gino20]

Hey everyone! I need some clarification regarding this issue. So, does it mean that Parker don't have any bone spurs since there is no structural damage wrong and simply chronic inflammation? Or, are the bone spurs not a big deal anymore??? I don't understand really whats wrong with him. Thanks in advance!

[ducks]

I bet spurs are telling tp to stay home and not travel with team

[boutons_]

"the bone spurs not a big deal anymore?"

I haven't seen any official word that he has a bone spur, which is not a problem until it impacts tissue and causes inflammation.

[Gino20]

"the bone spurs not a big deal anymore?"

I haven't seen any official word that he has a bone spur, which is not a problem until it impacts tissue and causes inflammation.

The Spurs' Big Three is down a man yet again.

"San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich has decided to sit Tony Parker indefinitely, against the point guard's wishes, because of a bone spur in the star's left heel."

This is from ESPN...This is what they were saying before the MRI.

[BonnerDynasty]

He's probably still clubbin' with Eva every night...

[timmy21_4rings]

i am confused..I am not an expert on these. Can't they do it before (at the initial stage)? We are talking about MRI..

[timvp]

No.
When Parker goes to SA in early August, one week after his injury, Spurs' doctor told Parker that he could play again. They give him no timetable for a return and no treatment to do.
How the hell you could blame French medical staff to have done a mistake while he was cleared by Spurs' medical staff ?The French doctors didn't even think the injury was serious enough for Parker to be checked on by the Spurs. And with their threat to never use NBA players again if Parker didn't play, it was no surprise that Parker would be going back ... with or without approval from Spurs.


Parker sit out half of the training camp because wanted to put him in the weight room and want to give some rest before the season.So you don't think he sat out for anything related to his ankle? That was the whole point. NBA players don't skip training camp and preseason to lift weights. Especially young NBA players.


It's not like spraining an ankle is the most common basketball related injury.
It's not like Parker played well with Spurs and French NT after his first injury.

Even if the second injury is a consequence of the first one, blame Spurs' doctor who have cleared him in August.So you want to blame the Spurs doctors but hold the French doctors 100% innocent even though the French doctors said the injury was so minor that Parker didn't even need to be re-examined?

:dizzy

[hater]

:madrun :madrun even injured tony keeps taking shots :madrun

[Chucho]

Hello Micheal Beasley! :hungry:

Pfft... are we forgetting how many truly bad teams are out there?? Hello Seattle, L.A, Milwaukee, Miami, Indy, Minny, Charlotte, Memphis, Philly, the ever stinky Knicks, Atlanta and the bust of the year; Chicago. Plus New Jersey will suck more once Kidd is gone and Sacto aint finishing with a better record than us, so we'd have to stink it up HUGE to jump past half the league to get good enough Lottery chances. C'mon some people here need to get there heads out of the clouds. We have ZERO chance of getting a top ten pick. ZERO. We'll be picking in the 17-27 range and that's a huge IF, if we keep playing .500 ball. Let's just bank on another useless 23-28 pick.

On topic, it's good news about Tony. Get him rested up and back on the court ASAP!!

[LaMarcus Bryant]

stupid stupid stupid national teams

[hater]

stupid stupid stupid national teams

yeah, except when the world is over and aliens come to the planet. they will be checking the olympic championships before NBA championships

[tav1]

The French doctors are mostly too blame, but Pop should have yanked him a couple weeks ago.

[polandprzem]

Who to blame?

Parker himself. Jeez doctors are doctors but you need to know your body as well.


F that I say. Now the important thoing is to give parker as much rest as possible. Good we have ASBreak. But still what is with his heal? Is it some kind of mistery once again? We will know in March if this leg still bothers him and the ankle will be fine. Then we can kiss O'Brian good night

[roycrikside]

stupid stupid stupid national teams

God you're a dope. If Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili were Americans the Spurs would've never had a chance to draft either one because they'd have been lottery picks.

Guys are from other places and they have pride in their homelands and want to represent their people. Get over yourselves you goddamn xenophobes.

American fans get pretty angry when U.S. stars don't want to play for the Olympic team for whatever reason and Americans don't even care about the Olympics too much. Imagine what kind of pressure the foreign guys are under to play for countries who do give a shit.

[Bruno]

So you don't think he sat out for anything related to his ankle? That was the whole point. NBA players don't skip training camp and preseason to lift weights. Especially young NBA players.



Tony's never been diligent in the weight room. I think with Tony I have to pay attention more to him than the other starters because he's a little bit of a laissez-faire guy. Whether that's being French or not, I'm not sure.
I don't know if it's his background basketball-wise, but he needs a little bit more attention from me than most other people do as far as preparation for games and seasons and that kind of thing.




So you want to blame the Spurs doctors but hold the French doctors 100% innocent even though the French doctors said the injury was so minor that Parker didn't even need to be re-examined?

:dizzy

I don't want to blame Spurs' doctors. But if a mistake has been made with Parker injury in August, you had to blame Spurs' doctors and/or Parker for it.

French NT Doctors can't be responsible for something because it was Spurs' doctor who were in charge of this injury.
It's just unreal to blame French NT doctors for not having treated well Parker's injury while Parker has been treated by Spurs' doctors.
Let's hope you will realize the absurdity of what you are saying.

[picnroll]

I blame Parker for being a stupid MFer, not resting his body, and now jeoporadizing the Spurs' year and considerable revenue for the team ownership who's paying him to play. I wonder if he'll continue to be a stupid MFer and continue to wear out and risk his body going forward. I don't blame the French team who I don't expect to give a rat's ass about his welfare but only have the self interest of winning at all cost, practicing him hard, playing him long minutes even if he's injured and his health is at risk

Spurs' and Pop would have put Parker on ice for a long time after the injury this summer. Unfortunately they bowed to appeasing the stupid MFer who doesn't know what's good for himself. The French team will use him up, they don't give a shit.

[MaNu4Tres]

I agree I wish Parker took care of this issue about a month ago. For some reason I think he fought through it for the sake of making the All-Star team as selfish as that may sound, but also to help the team get out of a funk. I think his health is extremely vital to our team's success, even if he comes back in March so be it. Give us the 6th seed,7th seed or 8th seed. If we are healthy we have a very good chance at repeating even without homecourt advantage for any series.

[diego]

at the end of the day, there is blame for all parties- french nt, spurs coaching staff, and parker himself.

but the people ranting on against parker and the french need to get a grip- if the spurs "are the ones who pay his salary", then why didnt they sit him down when it was their choice? shouldnt they protect their investment (and our title hopes)? you cant give them a free pass for playing parker hurt (and even if parker didnt say anything, wasnt it obvious to almost all of us that he was struggling physically?)

whats done is done, all we can do now is monitor his recovery and the teams performance while he is out.

[picnroll]

You can bet that the next time a Spurs players is playing for his national team and gets injured in preparation or competiton the Spurs aren't going to give him a chance to make a bad decision, they're going to shut him down. Many players' judgement is too cloudy by their own stupidity, feelings of pressure to not let teammates or country down to do what's good for them. Parker and Garbajosa are prime examples.

[Supergirl]

Has this been posted here:
"Parker has an chronic inflammation in his left ankle, the result of a bone rubbing against the ligaments. He received anti-inflammatory shots on Thursday and Popovich is adamant that Parker rest for at least three weeks. The coach sounded as if he were ready to change the access codes to the practice facility if that's what it takes to keep Parker off the court." http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-080201

[thispego]

I don't want to blame Spurs' doctors. But if a mistake has been made with Parker injury in August, you had to blame Spurs' doctors and/or Parker for it.

French NT Doctors can't be responsible for something because it was Spurs' doctor who were in charge of this injury.
It's just unreal to blame French NT doctors for not having treated well Parker's injury while Parker has been treated by Spurs' doctors.
Let's hope you will realize the absurdity of what you are saying.
The French NT gave parker an ultimatum. "play on your hurt ankle or don't ever play for us again". Yes, Tony should have swallowed his pride and not continued playing but he's young and stupid and it was a very Selfish move on the part of the French NT to do that to Parker.

[thispego]

God you're a dope. If Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili were Americans the Spurs would've never had a chance to draft either one because they'd have been lottery picks.

Guys are from other places and they have pride in their homelands and want to represent their people. Get over yourselves you goddamn xenophobes.

American fans get pretty angry when U.S. stars don't want to play for the Olympic team for whatever reason and Americans don't even care about the Olympics too much. Imagine what kind of pressure the foreign guys are under to play for countries who do give a shit.
Tony and Manu would have been lottery picks if they were Americans? I wonder what kind of flawless logic brought you to this conclusion. :lmao :lmao

So guys can't represent their homelands and their people while making millions playing over here? So international players play for their NT's because they feel pressured into it? something tells me you don't know shit about shit. God you're a dope :rolleyes

[waly.mg]

If Manu was American, although Argentina is also in America, have been playing every year since 2000 with the Spurs, and who know what happen

[roycrikside]

Tony and Manu would have been lottery picks if they were Americans? I wonder what kind of flawless logic brought you to this conclusion. :lmao :lmao


They'd have been known commodities, obviously. The whole reason they were picked so low was because the NBA hadn't done much legwork in international scouting yet at that point. If Manu went to UCLA and Tony went to Florida, I think some scouts would've seen them...

[spursfan09]

I think this is also about resting his mind, not just his body. I feel bad he can not play, but he kind of brought this on himself. What good is he, if he's not healthy.

[Bruno]

The French NT gave parker an ultimatum. "play on your hurt ankle or don't ever play for us again".

First, what you said is jut wrong. French NT never gave an ultimatum to Parker or Spurs. French NT coach just said that if Parker leave the team for the whole summer after a minor injury it won't be able to have NBA players with NT because they will left the team for the whole summer at the first minor injury. It wasn't an ultimatum at all, French NT coach was just stating facts.

Second, the idea of the French NT giving an ultimatum to Parker or Spurs is laughable. You obviously have no clue of what are the relationship between French NT, Spurs and Parker. French NT hasn't at all the power to give an ultimatum or to put some kind of pressure on Spurs or Parker.

[Whisky Dog]

Second, the idea of the French NT giving an ultimatum to Parker or Spurs is laughable. You obviously have no clue of what are the relationship between French NT, Spurs and Parker. French NT hasn't at all the power to give an ultimatum or to put some kind of pressure on Spurs or Parker.

That's not entirely true. The French NT has no power or influence over the Spurs, but they do control who plays for them and seem to have some degree of influence or control over Parker since Parker obviously wants to play for his country. I don't think it was as dramatic as has been stated, with the French NT giving an ultimatum, but more than likely they put some pressure on Parker to cover their best interests. IMO, you can't blame them for that since they are looking after their own personal interests first. This lies with Parker, who had to prioritize the importance to him of playing for his country with the risk of not being healthy and available for his employer. Evidently playing for his country is important enough for him to take the risk on the ankle. That's his decision.

[picnroll]

That's his decision.
This time. Not next time.

[baseline bum]

So you want to blame the Spurs doctors but hold the French doctors 100% innocent even though the French doctors said the injury was so minor that Parker didn't even need to be re-examined?

:dizzy

So the French health-care system doesn't work!?!?!? Paging Michael Moore...

[Bruno]

That's not entirely true. The French NT has no power or influence over the Spurs, but they do control who plays for them and seem to have some degree of influence or control over Parker since Parker obviously wants to play for his country.

What you said could be true for another player but not for Parker.
French NT needs more Parker than Parker needs French NT.
Without Parker, French NT will suck even more and lost a lot of media coverage. Their biggest fear is that he turns them down. They can't take the risk of losing him by making some pressure on him.

[Whisky Dog]

What you said could be true for another player but not for Parker.
French NT needs more Parker than Parker needs French NT.
Without Parker, French NT will suck even more and lost a lot of media coverage. Their biggest fear is that he turns them down. They can't take the risk of losing him by making some pressure on him.

I don't think they would put any combative or "ultimatum" type pressure on him, but I'm sure they are quick to remind him how they were there for him during his early development and all they've done for him. I also think that Parker feels an alliance towards them for this reason, which any honorable person would. Like I said, it's perfectly understandable that they would do whatever possible to have him play for them as any one of us would probably do the same in that situation. The Spurs have an agenda to have Parker as healthy as possible to play for them, the French NT have an agenda to do whatever possible to get Parker on the court for them, and it's up to Parker to make the decisions regarding his career and future. It does seem like he has been running himself a bit ragged in the last few years, and his body is letting him know about it now. It will be interesting to see what he does going forward, and if he makes a similar decision as Ginobili to put his paid professional team a bit ahead of the NT for his own personal health and longevity.

[Bruno]

the French NT have an agenda to do whatever possible to get Parker on the court for them

I quite disagree with that.
French NT had to keep a good relationship with Spurs. If they don't, they know Spurs won't allow Parker to play for them the following summers.
If French NT let an injured Parker plays, they won't never have him again in the future and they wont to avoid that.
So far, they have been very careful with Parker to avoid any trouble with Spurs.

[temujin]

Parker was going full speed well after Euro07.
Into December.
The Spurs had Parker fly to San Antonio to take a look well before Euro07 and said it was OK for him to play.
They wouldn't even trust an MRI done in France.
So maybe Parker SHOULD not trust MRI done by them.
It's Parker's ankle.
He should have know better. And the Spurs should have stopped him long ago.

From what I understand, it's minimum a full month.
Anything less, they are kidding themselves, like in December.

He might be back for the playoffs.

If the Spurs make it to the playoffs.

[Alain]

Blame Kinder

[temujin]

The French NT gave parker an ultimatum. "play on your hurt ankle or don't ever play for us again". Yes, Tony should have swallowed his pride and not continued playing but he's young and stupid and it was a very Selfish move on the part of the French NT to do that to Parker.

Evidence for that?

[temujin]

So the French health-care system doesn't work!?!?!? Paging Michael Moore...

Pietrus, Petro, Diaw are doing quite well.

It works less on sons of american basketball players.

They carry their notworkingness one generation down.

Parker' kids will be OK, though.

[nkdlunch]

howcome noone is complaining about Netherlads National Team, Elson almost gets killed and has to wear a mask that is obviously hindering his skillz!

not to mention the mask does not help him with the ladies

[ancestron]

I think Elson was playing better with a broken face.

[temujin]

Did Oberto play for Argentina this summer?

No wonder he has slowed down.

From 20'' to run the court to 20''1.

[waly.mg]

Nobody sayed anything about this

Between season Tony played with his National team ........... and get married

[thispego]

Evidence for that?

from: return of parker at san antonio (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75040&page=7&pp=26)

Claude Bergeaud, french NT's coach seems pretty mad. Here's some quotes of his own, reported on lequipe.fr (french sport newspaper website)


"TP's ankle is really fine but we said we wouldn't take any risk...I don't see why he wouldn't be allowed to come back, except Spurs say : "French NT is over for TP !". Then, we'll understand it 's over for ever. Because if he's coming back to SA for those reasons, which are insignificant, a kick on the foot wich causes a really little, minor thing, then it will mean it's over. We won't have NBA players anymore, at the slightest fart."


Worries are high but signs of irritation are staying rather sober.

"Since Spurs are the owners of the player, I understand very well that they want to make further exams, verifications, assurances."

Irritation remains mesured but does exist. On Boris Diaw and the insurance issue :

"If we are told that Boris can't play, it's a stabbing. Beyond Tony, we built this team around Boris. Should have we know that he couldn't play, some players wwouldn't be here and some others would be. without diaw, we would be dismantled. "when 250 pds guys say something, 120 ones listen" (famous french movie line)".

[thispego]

Nobody sayed anything about this

Between season Tony played with his National team ........... and get married
alls the groom has to do is show up

[greens]

Any chance TP will play in the game vs Boston? Or is that still too early?

[Avitus1]

I doubt it.

[remingtonbo2001]

No. He's out for the enitire RRT.