Obama Wins!

[Nbadan]

Post em as you see em...


(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama will win Georgia's Democratic primary, CNN projects, but the Republican race there is too close to call.

Sen. Barack Obama will win Georgia's Democratic primary, CNN projects. Early results showed Obama with a 2-1 lead over rival Hillary Clinton in the first state to close its polls. CNN projections show a tight three-way race among Republicans John McCain, Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee.

As polls begin to close, candidates were awaiting results from the 24 states holding primaries or caucuses today. Republican conservative voters appear to be evenly split between Romney and Huckabee, according to preliminary exit polls of Super Tuesday voters.

- snip -

On the Democratic side, those who made up their mind in the last three days appear to be torn between Obama and Clinton.

Georgia (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/05/super.main/index.html)

[Nbadan]

Here is the running count in Georgia....

http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/election_results/2008_0205/00102.htm

[Nbadan]

Obama win Mass and Illinois


(CNN) -- As the second wave of Super Tuesday polls close, CNN projects Mitt Romney and Barack Obama will take their home states of Massachusetts and Illinois.

Sen. Barack Obama will win Georgia's Democratic primary, CNN projects. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton and John McCain will pick up their first states of the night. Clinton is projected to win in Oklahoma, and McCain is projected to take Connecticut and Illinois.

- snip -

As in South Carolina, African-American voters made up just over half the turnout in Georgia's Democratic primary -- and exit polls indicated that Obama took about 80 percent of that vote. And his nearly 40 percent showing among white voters was an improvement over South Carolina, where native son John Edwards was also in the mix.

As polls begin to close, candidates were awaiting results from the 24 states holding primaries or caucuses today.

Cnn (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/05/super.main/index.html)

[Ocotillo]

Oops, I get what you are doing now. Nevermind.

[JoeChalupa]

This was no surprise. :tu

[Nbadan]

Obama wins Delaware,,,,per joe and CNN....

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Hilary will take all the yankee states + California = obamowned

[JoeChalupa]

Hilary will take all the yankee states + California = obamowned

It's all about the delegates. Barack just needs to stay close and finish strong. He has done well in each State he has campaigned against Hillary. But yeah, Hillary will most likely come out ahead in delegates but not enough to declare victory.

[Nbadan]

Alabama like Obama per CNN on-air

[Nbadan]

Obama wins so far:

Georgia
Alabama
Delaware
Illinois

[ploto]

Obama wins so far:

Georgia
Mass
Alabama
Delaware
Illinois
Obama did not win Mass

[possessed]

I'm certainly no Democrat but I'd like to see Obama take my state of Idaho. The black population is less than 1% here, although we are finally getting more diverse. It would be a feather in the cap for the state, which is often classified as racist and for Obama who is often labeled as solely "a black candidate".

[Nbadan]

Obama did not win Mass


my bad...misinterpreted CNN report on top...but numbers show Clinton ahead

58%
39%

in MASS


Thanks...

[Mr. Peabody]

Obama takes Kansas per CBS

[Mr. Peabody]

Obama takes North Dakota

[JoeChalupa]

Barack takes North Dakota., :tu

[Mr. Peabody]

Obama takes Utah

[JoeChalupa]

Obama takes Kansas per CBS

Thank you mr. knowitall! :lol

[JoeChalupa]

Obama takes Utah

What the.. :smokin

[Holt's Cat]

North Dakota - CNN

[Holt's Cat]

Connecticut, Minnesota & Idaho per Drudge, no link yet.

[Mr. Peabody]

Connecticut, Minnesota & Idaho per Drudge, no link yet.

Wow. Connecticut is huge for Obama. That's Hillary country. I just want the delegate count to be close at the end of the night.

[Holt's Cat]

NY Times shows Obama ahead in Connecticut 50-47 with 59% of vote reporting.

[Mr. Peabody]

NY Times shows Obama ahead in Connecticut 50-47 with 59% of vote reporting.

CBS just called Connecticut for Obama.

[T Park]

Fox News calls Connecticut for Obama.

Huge win for him there.

Connecticut is Hillary country if I assume right.

[JoeChalupa]

Kansas fvor Obama! :tu

[Holt's Cat]

This is getting interesting. Obama seems to be strong in various regions. Looks like he's doing better as we move west. Arizona, Colorado, and New Mexico have yet to report. Then of course California.

[T Park]

Is there any word on the numbers in those states yet Holt's?

[Mr. Peabody]

This is getting interesting. Obama seems to be strong in various regions. Looks like he's doing better as we move west. Arizona, Colorado, and New Mexico have yet to report. Then of course California.

I don't think he wins any of those four. Clinton owns the Hispanic vote. I'm just hoping the delegate count is close.

[Mr. Peabody]

Just to show how big the Connecticut victory was for Obama -

On November 5, 2007, a poll in Connecticut showed:

Clinton - 45%
Obama - 19%

[JoeChalupa]

Just to show how big the Connecticut victory was for Obama -

On November 5, 2007, a poll in Connecticut showed:

Clinton - 45%
Obama - 19%

Yes We Can!!!

[T Park]

Clinton owns the Hispanic vote. I'm just hoping the delegate count is close.

Wich makes no sense to me.

Yeah New Mexico prob goes billary.

Arizona as well.

I have a strange feeling though California goes to Obama narrowly.

[Mr. Peabody]

Obama wins Minnesota per CNN

[Nbadan]

another proportionate win for Obama

[T Park]

anybody got a link to where you can watch the networks online?
CNN
CSNBC
Fox News and the such?

[Mr. Peabody]

I have a strange feeling though California goes to Obama narrowly.

I hope you're right. That would be a huge win for Obama.

[T Park]

Yeah I'd much rather Obama win than Hillary.

Hillary is plain fuckin scary.

[Mr. Peabody]

anybody got a link to where you can watch the networks online?
CNN
CSNBC
Fox News and the such?

CNN Live is always up. And MSNBC has streaming video at
link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22887506#22887506)

[T Park]

Peabody, any idea how to watch Fox News? :lol

I like to have all three going and tune into one when the other goes to commercial.

[td4mvp21]

:tu for Obama, I'm really hoping he can get ahead of Clinton, I don't trust that bitch. Obama is my candidate

[T Park]

td4 Agreed.

[Mr. Peabody]

Peabody, any idea how to watch Fox News? :lol

I like to have all three going and tune into one when the other goes to commercial.

:lol I don't really watch Fox News, but I did look for you. It doesn't appear that they are streaming any coverage tonight.

[T Park]

Yeah they are never online.

Thanks anyways Peabody.

[Mr. Peabody]

Obama takes Colorado per CBS

[Nbadan]

Obama speaks

[Holt's Cat]

Very slight lead for Obama in Missouri.

[RashoFan]

very close race in Missouri indeed! Go Obama!

[Tippecanoe]

i think obama's going to win missouri

the only counties left still counting votes are jackson, boone, st louis, and ray, of which only ray is pro hillary. the other three are pro-obama by a large margin

[T Park]

FOx News Calls Missouri for Obama!!!!!

[Mr. Peabody]

FOx News Calls Missouri for Obama!!!!!

Wow. The AP had already called it for Hillary. That takes some of the sting off of the California loss.

[T Park]

Yeah not enough though.

That sucks the big one that Hillary got California....

[T Park]

Fox News is projecting Obama to win Alaska.

[Mr. Peabody]

Alaska for Obama!

[Nbadan]

Missouri for Obama - per CNN

[T Park]

Is Alaska as big for the Democrats as it is for Republicans?

13 delegates up for grabs for Repugs there.

[boutons_]

Although TX, and OH are yet to come, the superdelegates loom larger than ever when the pledged delegates are so closely divided.

Here's BHO already warning the superdelegates about overriding the pledged delegates to nominate Hillary:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/06/obama-calls-out-super-del_n_85339.html

ie, the primary/caucus pledged delegate hoopla and battle could be totally meaningless, sorta like the 2000 election all over again, the power structure institutions overriding the sovereign will of The People.

[Mr. Peabody]

Although TX, and OH are yet to come, the superdelegates loom larger than ever when the pledged delegates are so closely divided.

Here's BHO already warning the superdelegates about overriding the pledged delegates to nominate Hillary:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/06/obama-calls-out-super-del_n_85339.html

ie, the primary/caucus pledged delegate hoopla and battle could be totally meaningless, sorta like the 2000 election all over again, the power structure institutions overriding the sovereign will of The People.

If the superdelegates were to go against the will of their constituencies and hand Hillary the nomination, there would be a revolt in the Democratic Party and McCain would waltz into the presidency.

[boutons_]

Plus the Repugs would love nothing better than Hillary vs McCain, which I think would go to McCain.

The insane anti-Hillary hate and slime would be magnificent, while the Clinton machine wouldn't go down without a lot of Rove-ian nastiness of its own.

[td4mvp21]

Plus the Repugs would love nothing better than Hillary vs McCain, which I think would go to McCain.

The insane anti-Hillary hate and slime would be magnificent, while the Clinton machine wouldn't go down without a lot of Rove-ian nastiness of its own.

You're probably right, if Hillary wins the nomination, it's going to be fucking John McCain, and we'll be in Iraq for 100 more years!

[J.T.]

I am to politics what Mavfan is to basketball knowledge, how's Barack doing and is the outlook good for winning the nomination?

[Nbadan]

I am to politics what Mavfan is to basketball knowledge, how's Barack doing and is the outlook good for winning the nomination?

...basically, he's doing OK, but a lot of people are hoping that the nomination decision isn't left to the Super Delegates in the Demo. Convention...the fact Obama can win in the South is the good news from Super Tuesday...but can he turn Hispanics for him in the SW will be I think the toughest road-block Obama faces now to win a nomination......Hispanics may go for Clinton.....

[Wild Cobra]

Plus the Repugs would love nothing better than Hillary vs McCain, which I think would go to McCain.

You know, my initial though was that McCain would be the sure winner against any of the democrats. However, I think I was wrong. Sure, McCain will get more democrat and moderate voters than someone more conservative, but many conservatives will turn around and not vote, not being able to live with themselves if they vote for McCain!

As I think more about it, I think the democrats will win over him!

[Nbadan]

McCain versus Hillary would be interesting....but McCain versus Obama ...would be Obama.....

[J.T.]

Thanks Nbadan. I guess I'll just keep my eyes and ears open for new info and be sure to vote on or before March 4th.

[Nbadan]

Clinton would alienate a large chunk of anti-corporate, anti-globalism, pro-populist Progressives that basically shake and move the Demo party today...so the question would become, who would alienate less of their own party.....

[Nbadan]

..as it is now, Clinton is going to win TX, Nevada could go either way..but California, Arizona, New Mexico, and even Oklahoma all went Clinton...that's the Hispanic vote, but the good news is that a lot of mid-Atlantic states haven't had their primaries yet and Obama has done well in the region, including wins in Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri...New York was a though loss, but it went 56-42 Clinton, so Obama didn't really have a chance..

[JoeChalupa]

I think it is going to be up to the super delegates. If they see the swing towards Obama they just may throw their support towards him. There are States he won't win but if he can keep the delegate count close he just may be able to convince enough super delegates to win the nomination.

YES WE CAN!!

[RobinsontoDuncan]

http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard/?d=ST

according to the polls obama is up by 30 percentage points in texas

[Extra Stout]

http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard/?d=ST

according to the polls obama is up by 30 percentage points in texas
That's not a real poll; that's just "Yahoo buzz." Internet polls do not reflect the electorate at large. Obama is going to have a tough time in Texas, what with Latinos in other states voting Clinton at a 60%-70% clip. Fortunately for him, I don't think Texas is a winner-take-all-state.

[101A]

You know, my initial though was that McCain would be the sure winner against any of the democrats. However, I think I was wrong. Sure, McCain will get more democrat and moderate voters than someone more conservative, but many conservatives will turn around and not vote, not being able to live with themselves if they vote for McCain!

As I think more about it, I think the democrats will win over him!Then these conservatives you speak of are exactly as closed-minded, knee-jerk and foolish as their critics have claimed them to be. Bravo.

[101A]

That's not a real poll; that's just "Yahoo buzz." Internet polls do not reflect the electorate at large. Obama is going to have a tough time in Texas, what with Latinos in other states voting Clinton at a 60%-70% clip. Fortunately for him, I don't think Texas is a winner-take-all-state.Are you suprised that the media doesn't discuss this trend: Latino v Black?

Blacks vote for Obama at a > 80% clip; Latino's for Hillary at a >70%; whites split nearly evenly. Who are the racists, again?

What does that portend for the future of the Democrat party?

[Extra Stout]

Are you suprised that the media doesn't discuss this trend: Latino v Black?

Blacks vote for Obama at a > 80% clip; Latino's for Hillary at a >70%; whites split nearly evenly. Who are the racists, again?

What does that portend for the future of the Democrat party?
I have read some stories about the Latino vs. black thing in the media. The conclusion: over a population, Latino enmity for blacks is more severe than what you find in the Deep South.

[101A]

I have read some stories about the Latino vs. black thing in the media. The conclusion: over a population, Latino enmity for blacks is more severe than what you find in the Deep South.If this doesn't change, and with the rapid growth of Latino political muscle, are blacks going to go the way of the Unions in the Democratic party. I think Hillary might be starting the trend.

[JoeChalupa]

The future of the Democratic Party is NOW!!
There are Latino's 4 Obama groups spreading across the Country.
But yeah, there is a bridge that must be crossed between Hispanic and African-Americans voters.
But the older Hispanics have a deep connection with the Clintons where as the younger generation is supporting Obama in higher percentages.

SI SE PUEDE!!!

[Holt's Cat]

I have read some stories about the Latino vs. black thing in the media. The conclusion: over a population, Latino enmity for blacks is more severe than what you find in the Deep South.

Thereby ensuring that race continues to dominate our politics even though it doesn't really matter that much at the personal level any more. We've come full circle. Well, actually a half-circle.

I know I'm looking forward to a couple of decades' worth of bitching about which racial or ethnic group has suffered more historically.

[101A]

Thereby ensuring that race continues to dominate our politics even though it doesn't really matter that much at the personal level any more. We've come full circle. Well, actually a half-circle.

I know I'm looking forward to a couple of decades' worth of bitching about which racial or ethnic group has suffered more historically.There's no debating it!

Alsatian French!!!!

[J.T.]

OK my mother is going to vote for Obama with me on March 4th. I gotta go to Williamson county to vote though, but she is republican and I convinced her to vote for Obama cuz she does not like Hillary. :smokin

I think it's funny though because I had to talk to her for about 15 minutes explaining just because someone is democrat they are not evil.

Reminded me of the time I had to tell her "Highway to Hell" and "Running With the Devil" weren't literally what AC/DC and Van Halen meant when they wrote those songs. Damn Biblethumpers.

[Mr. Peabody]

OK my mother is going to vote for Obama with me on March 4th. I gotta go to Williamson county to vote though, but she is republican and I convinced her to vote for Obama cuz she does not like Hillary. :smokin

I think it's funny though because I had to talk to her for about 15 minutes explaining just because someone is democrat they are not evil.

Reminded me of the time I had to tell her "Highway to Hell" and "Running With the Devil" weren't literally what AC/DC and Van Halen meant when they wrote those songs. Damn Biblethumpers.

:lol

[Holt's Cat]

Nebraska - CNN

[Holt's Cat]

Obama crushing Hillary in Washington State so far.

[Holt's Cat]

Washington - CNN

[Holt's Cat]

Louisiana - CNN

[Holt's Cat]

US Virgin Islands - CNN

[td4mvp21]

Excellent night for Obama :tu

[Mr. Peabody]

Obama wins Maine!

[pussyface]

Obama wins Maine!

...Clinton campaign staff shake-up. panic time on Tuesday when she loses everything again.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Hmm...i dont like this. Hopefully the money Obama raised can be put to good use.

[PEP]

Oh Obama

[spurster]

AP Delegate Count:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MAINE_CAUCUSES?SITE=TXSAE&SECTION=US&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-02-10-21-10-09

In the overall race for the nomination, Clinton leads with 1,135, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates. Obama has 1,106.

[jochhejaam]

AP Delegate Count:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MAINE_CAUCUSES?SITE=TXSAE&SECTION=US&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-02-10-21-10-09

In the overall race for the nomination, Clinton leads with 1,135, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates. Obama has 1,106.
In the delegate chase, Obama has pulled ahead of Clinton, even when the support of uncommitted super delegates is figured in. According to CBS News estimates, Obama holds a razor-thin lead with 1,134 delegates overall to 1,131 for Clinton.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/10/politics/main3813759.shtml

[Extra Stout]

In the delegate chase, Obama has pulled ahead of Clinton, even when the support of uncommitted super delegates is figured in. According to CBS News estimates, Obama holds a razor-thin lead with 1,134 delegates overall to 1,131 for Clinton.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/10/politics/main3813759.shtml
The Clinton sniper team is mobilizing.

[td4mvp21]

that would ensure a republican win

Not if McCain wins the GOP nomination.

[Holt's Cat]

Obama wins Grammy

[J.T.]

Obama wins Grammy

:lmao

On topic though it's good to see Barack gaining momentum. If it continues he's got a real good shot at beating Billary.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

On topic though it's good to see Barack gaining momentum. If it continues he's got a real good shot at beating Billary.He wasn't kidding though. Obama really did take home a grammy today.

[AFBlue]

I don't know why the news organizations include the superdelegates in their calculations, because those delegates can change their mind at any time. And if one candidate has a "pledge delegate" lead over the other, the supers would be fools to go against the country's choice and play God with their vote.

I've heard even ardent Democrat Donna Brazile threaten to quit the Democratic Party if the Supers trend that way.

Bottom Line: To me, it's rediculous that we're including the Superdelegates, when at this point they're just "verbal commitments", versus the pledged delegates, which have signed the letter of intent, so to speak.

Obama leads the pledged delegates, is that right?

[MannyIsGod]

No one knows who leads. If you take an ultra conservative view Hiliary has a large lead considering caucus delegates have not be assigned to anyone because of the process that caucus states go through. Anything you see with a Barak lead is an estimate just like the estimates you see with a Clinton lead when including the supers.

If you only factor in delegates that are set in stone, then Clinton has a lead of over 100 and I think maybe over 200.

[JoeChalupa]

Obama has the lead in delegates but it will come down to to super delegates. At least that is how I see it.

YES WE CAN!!

[Holt's Cat]

Virginia - CNN

[JoeChalupa]

Let's do this.

[Holt's Cat]

District of Columbia - MSNBC

[Mr. Peabody]

He currently over 60% in VA. That's huge considering HRC was leading by 20+ points just three months ago.

[td4mvp21]

District of Columbia - MSNBC

I didn't even know the results were coming in yet?!?

Maryland polls close at 9:30 ET because of bad weather/traffic.

[Holt's Cat]

Maryland - CNN

[JoeChalupa]

Barack The Vote!!!

[DarkReign]

Associated Press
WASHINGTON -- Seating delegates from Florida and Michigan at the Democratic National Convention would be a grave injustice, the Rev. Al Sharpton said Wednesday in a break with prominent civil rights leaders.

"I firmly believe that changing the rules now, and seating delegates from Florida and Michigan at this point would not only violate the Democratic Party's rules of fairness, but also would be a grave injustice," Sharpton said in a letter to Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean.

"As former presidential candidates we both know that, whether we liked them or not, we adhered to the rules set forth by the Democratic Party to select its nominee for president."

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Sharpton, a black activist and radio talk show host, sought the presidency in 2004.

NAACP chairman Julian Bond also wrote Dean recently, taking the opposite position. Bond said failure to seat the delegates would disenfranchise minority voters in Florida and Michigan.

Former U.S. Commission on Civil Rights Chairwoman Mary Frances Berry and former Justice Department official Roger Wilkins also wrote Dean urging the DNC settle the issue before the convention for the good of the party.

Berry -- who oversaw the 2001 report that studied the disputed 2000 Florida election and found thousands of voters, particularly black voters, were disenfranchised -- said she is also concerned about disenfranchisement of Michigan and Florida voters, although she didn't make a recommendation on how the DNC should resolve the dispute.

The DNC penalized Michigan and Florida for moving their primaries to earlier dates in violation of party rules. Both states were stripped of their delegates, and the party's presidential candidates signed a pledge not to campaign in either state. Florida lost all 210 delegates, including its superdelegates; Michigan, 156.

Since then, waging a hard-fought delegate battle with Sen. Barack Obama, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign has pushed hard for both states' delegations to be seated. Clinton won Florida's primary Jan. 29 and Michigan's Jan. 15, but was the only candidate to appear on the Michigan ballot after the other candidates removed their names.

Sharpton said he disagreed with those who say minority voters in Florida and Michigan will be disenfranchised.

"That claim, if true, should have been made many months ago before the decision was made to strip these states of their delegates, and, once the decision was made, it should have been vigorously objected to and contested by those who felt it disenfranchised voters," Sharpton wrote. "To raise that claim now smacks of politics in its form most raw and undercuts the moral authority behind such an argument."

The DNC has said it would allow both states to hold a different contest, probably a caucus, that would comply with party rules. Either state can also appeal the penalty to the DNC credentials committee, which will not meet again until this summer.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080213/POLITICS01/802130441/1361

OMG, did I just find myself agreeing with Sharpton?!

[Holt's Cat]

Me too.

Clinton's camp is grasping for anything now. Trying to make Michigan & Florida a civil rights matter is just one trial balloon.

[xrayzebra]

Hey Rush just nailed it. The old Sammy Davis song:
Candy Man. That is Obama. The Candy Man. Just listen to it.Candyman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yecJaqMqQLc)

[Holt's Cat]

Obama is Jewish?

[DarkReign]

Obama is Jewish?

Barrack Hussein Obama, son.

That boys as Protestant as they come, ya hear?

[Holt's Cat]

That's the one thing about the general election. Everyone's uncle, you know, the King of Email Forwards, will be filling up our inboxes warning us about the shifty Moslem interloper who would be POTUS. Or better yet, the glib little ditties about how we beat Hussein and we Obama is next with an image of the "s" in Osama scratched out and replaced with a "b".

[JoeChalupa]

Obama takes Wisconsin!!

[Holt's Cat]

Her goose is cooked.

[Mr. Peabody]

Obama takes Wisconsin!!

:clap

[boutons_]

Hillary ought to feel some tears coming on.

OH, TX, PA to come, then It's Ova

[boutons_]

Dead heat in TX

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/18/poll.texas/index.html

[gameFACE]

If Obama campaigns hard in Texas he'll win it. He should hit Houston and the Valley for the Latino vote. I'm sure he'll be back in SA before March 4 for another push at a bigger rally than today's.

I went to the rally at Plaza Guadalupe today and he was amazing. That's not why I think he'll win it - he just has all the momentum right now.

He looks like he's in his twenties up close!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Fucking wow.

Kirk Watson of Texas is about to implode on national TV.

Chris Matthews just asked him to name some legislative accomplishments of Barack Obama and he could barely respond that he couldn't respond.

Texas' District 14 should be embarrassed.

[Burn531]

CNN reports Barack wins Hawaii.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

i didn't see this on tv

was Watson bragging on Obama's legislative accomplishments at the time?

if so, pzwn3d
if not, wgf

No, Matthews let him get his thoughts in about why Obama would be good for the country and then he asked him what Obama's legislative accomplishments were.

Watson stuttered and flubbed words trying to eventually respond that he didn't know how to respond.

Matthews laid off him when I think his producers told him to rein it in, then he came back and asked him again. Once the interviews were over, Matthews laid into him some more.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/19/chris-matthews-humiliates_n_87493.html

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I couldn't even watch this humiliation, it was so bad.

[boutons_]

The incident be spun by the Repug slime machine as Obama's fault.

[DarkReign]

I couldn't even watch this humiliation, it was so bad.

Youre in the press, am I correct?

That was very awkward, and honestly, I couldnt answer the question either.

Because the answer is "None."

[johnsmith]

The incident be spun by the Repug slime machine as Obama's fault.

Good God you're a fucking idiot.

[boutons_]

dubya had no career or accomplishments in politics but was drafted as Repug/neo-cunt puppet.

Obama simply can't be worse,nor can Hillary.

Hillary and Obama supporters have polled as almost completely accepting of which ever one wins the Dem nomination. The united, excited Dem voters will simply numerically overwhelm the divided, lukewarm Repug voters.

McCain is roadkill. The majority simply don't want war-mongering, bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran McCain to continue as war-mongering dubya's 3rd term.

[AFBlue]

Fucking wow.

Kirk Watson of Texas is about to implode on national TV.

Chris Matthews just asked him to name some legislative accomplishments of Barack Obama and he could barely respond that he couldn't respond.

Texas' District 14 should be embarrassed.

Saw it too....

That shit was hilarious! Matthews was in top Hardball form.

And I think the point was well taken. Obama gave yet another rousing speech to 20K plus supporters in Houston, but where's the substance?

I know Hillary has failed miserably at playing the "all talk, no action" card and the "inexperience" card, but I actually think the same tactics might play in the general election.

It'll be interesting to see, because it looks like Obama is on his way.....

[Nbadan]

...Vermont..

According to Drudge (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

:lol

[J.T.]

I voted today. Called up my old man, he did too. A few of my friends from school/work went with me.

Sadly my conservo mom and stepdad are probably voting for Hilary as I type this. . .

[Nbadan]

It's official: 12-0...


Illinois senator continues his string of victories on the Democratic side; Arizona senator closer to cementing GOP nomination.

MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.com/)

[mikejones99]

mathews is a fucking retard, hillary naked would be better than mathews and mccain :reading

[Holt's Cat]

Odd that Vermont went for Obama, Massachusetts & New Hampshire went for Clinton, and Rhode Island is neck and neck.

[Nbadan]

...two more delegates...


Illinois U.S. Senator Barack Obama officially picked up two more delegates today in his bid for the White House. They were awarded to him after the Illinois Board of Elections recalculated the delegates assigned after the state's primary <...>

Clinton lost the delegates because she didn't receive the required 15 percent of the vote in two South Side congressional districts. The Clinton campaign did not immediately respond to our calls for comment.

[Nbadan]

Let's count the ways that Obama is winning:


1.) Pledged Delegates: (Using AP's numbers, with Obama's count in parenthesis)

Obama: 1,390 (1,411)
Clinton: 1,248 (1,250)


2.) Popular vote: I updated this post with results from Mississippi. I took out the Texas caucuses just to give this the best pro-Clinton spin possible, though I still think the caucuses are a separate contest and need to be accounted for. (Obama ended up winning Mississippi by over 100,000 votes.)

Obama: 13,614,204
Clinton: 12,801,153


3.) Primaries Won: There are 37 total primary contests. All Obama has to do is win three more and he notches the lead in these contests. He can do that easily with just three out of Montana, South Dakota, Oregon, Indiana, and North Carolina.

Obama: 16
Clinton: 12


4.) Caucuses Won

Obama: 14
Clinton: 3


5.) Overall contests Won: It's a 2-1 Obama advantage (includes territories and Democrats Abroad).

Obama: 30
Clinton: 15


6.) Red and Blue States Won (including DC, not including territories or Democrats Abroad):

Obama: 16 Red, 11 Blue
Clinton: 8 Red, 6 Blue


8.) Money Raised (through February)

Obama: $168 million
Clinton: $140 million

So that leaves the Clinton campaign with what, exactly? Big states! Big states! Big states! I addressed that one yesterday.

Team Clinton has nothing except schemes of coup by super delegate, which they apparently think they can do by insulting entire Democratic constituencies and most of our nation's states.

But really, what else do they have? Their campaign is losing by every metric possible.

Kos (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/13/134235/517/95/475879)

[boutons_]

Not only has Hillary irretrievably lost in pledged delegates, Hillary has seen Obama continue to reduce her lead in committed superdelegates.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=a0OkW8Ml8ljw

How bad will be the fury and slime from the scorned women?

[JoeChalupa]

But will the super delegates switch to Hillary now that Obama's campaign has hit a major stumbling block with the Pastor Wright controversy? You know the republicans are NOT going to let that go. I know the McCain campaign won't use it but the conservatives like Hannity and Rush and Joe Pags are not going to let it go away.
Look for Hillary to trounce Obama in PA. The tide could be turning. Obama is in Indiana right now. He may already be writing off PA and Hillary is really going to use the same argument that again and again.
That she can win the big states.

Come on Barack!!! You must fight back!!

[boutons_]

Obama needs to fight back, and he's picks up Edwards' 7 delegates in IA, tamping Hillary further down the tubes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/15/obama-expands-delegate-le_n_91719.html

[Mr. Peabody]

Look for Hillary to trounce Obama in PA. The tide could be turning.

I agree the tide is turning....


[Bobby Kennedy] said, we’ve got a choice in taking the rage and bitterness and disappointment and letting it fester and dividing us further so that we no longer see each other as Americans but we see each other as separate and apart and at odds with each other. [B]Or we can take a different path that says we have different stories, but we have common dreams and common hopes. And we can decide to walk down this road together. And remake America once again. And, you know, I think about those words often, especially in the last several weeks - because this campaign started on the basis that we are one America. As I said in my speech at the convention in 2004, there is no Black America, or White America, or Asian America, or Latino America. There is the United States of America. But I noticed over the last several weeks that the forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again. And I’m not here to cast blame or point fingers because everybody, you know, senses that there’s been this shift. You know, that you’ve been seeing in the reporting. You’ve been seeing some of the commentaries of supporters on all sides. Most recently, you heard some statements from my former pastor that were incendiary and that I completely reject, although I knew him and know him as somebody in my church who talked to me about Jesus and family and friendships, but clearly had — but if all I knew was those statements that I saw on television, I would be shocked. And it just reminds me that we’ve got a tragic history when it comes to race in this country. We’ve got a lot of pent-up anger and bitterness and misunderstanding. But what I continue to believe in is that this country wants to move beyond these kinds of divisions. That this country wants something different.

I just want to say to everybody here that as somebody who was born into a diverse family, as somebody who has little pieces of America all in me, I will not allow us to lose this moment, where we cannot forget about our past and not ignore the very real forces of racial inequality and gender inequality and the other things that divide us. I don’t want us to forget them. We have to acknowledge them and lift them up and when people say things like my former pastor said, you know, you have to speak out forcefully against them. But what you also have to do is remember what Bobby Kennedy said. That it is within our power to join together to truly make a United States of America. And that we have to do not just so that our children live in a more peaceful country and a more peaceful world, but that is the only way that we are going to deliver on the big issues that we’re facing in this country. We can’t solve health care divided. We cannot create an economy that works for everybody divided. We can’t fight terrorism divided. We can’t care for our veterans divided. We have to come together. That’s what this campaign is about. That’s why you are here. That’s why we’re going to win this election. That’s how we’re going to change the country.



U.S. Sen. Barack Obama waited 16 months to attempt the exorcism. But when he finally sat down with the Tribune editorial board Friday, Obama offered a lengthy and, to us, plausible explanation for the presence of now-indicted businessman Tony Rezko in his personal and political lives.

The most remarkable facet of Obama's 92-minute discussion was that, at the outset, he pledged to answer every question the three dozen Tribune journalists crammed into the room would put to him. And he did.


When we endorsed Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination Jan. 27, we said we had formed our opinions of him during 12 years of scrutiny. We concluded that the professional judgment and personal decency with which he has managed himself and his ambition distinguish him.

Nothing Obama said in our editorial board room Friday diminishes that verdict."



Obama is turning two of his biggest issues into positive talking points for his campaign. All of this before the general election begins.

[boutons_]

Deflecting and transforming the politics of personal destruction and race and a given middle name and all kinds of trivial side-issues inserted and inflated by Hillary and the right wingnuts is a huge challenge for the guy. So far, he looks like he's up to the challenge, but the right wingnuts Have Not Yet Begun To Slime. They'll go after him on race and on him being a Muslim, and they won't bother with the "as far as we know".

She still won't release her tax returns (she's too busy) and Bill refuses to release his Presidential papers on his end-of-term pardons.

[Warlord23]

The writing is on the wall, only HRC is oblivious. Try out delegate count scenarios using CNN's tool, and it becomes apparent that it'd be a miracle for HRC to win this.
CNN Tracker (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html)

The other interesting aspect is how well Obama would do vs. McCain compared to HRC vs McCain. Recent polls indicate that Obama is the better bet at competing against McCain:
Obama vs McCain (http://electioninspection.wordpress.com/obama-vs-mccain-state-by-state/)
Clinton vs McCain (http://electioninspection.wordpress.com/clinton-vs-mccain-state-by-state/)

HRC's "big states" argument is tough to justify given that states like CA, NY and OH are very likely to vote for the Democratic nominee in the fall, regardless of the candidate. Obama has the better chance in some of the swing states.

As I said, the writing is on the wall. I'm surprised the "on-the-fence" superdelegates haven't woken up to this yet. They could fix this mess now if they wake up and end this unnecessary intra-party struggle.

[Nbadan]

The writing is on the wall, only HRC is oblivious. Try out delegate count scenarios using CNN's tool, and it becomes apparent that it'd be a miracle for HRC to win this.
CNN Tracker (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html)

The other interesting aspect is how well Obama would do vs. McCain compared to HRC vs McCain. Recent polls indicate that Obama is the better bet at competing against McCain:
Obama vs McCain (http://electioninspection.wordpress.com/obama-vs-mccain-state-by-state/)
Clinton vs McCain (http://electioninspection.wordpress.com/clinton-vs-mccain-state-by-state/)

HRC's "big states" argument is tough to justify given that states like CA, NY and OH are very likely to vote for the Democratic nominee in the fall, regardless of the candidate. Obama has the better chance in some of the swing states.

As I said, the writing is on the wall. I'm surprised the "on-the-fence" superdelegates haven't woken up to this yet. They could fix this mess now if they wake up and end this unnecessary intra-party struggle.

Shhhh..........don't tell the board Republicans that, they're still under the dilusion that Demos are self-destructing...yeah, that's why people are voting in record numbers in primaries and caucuses for the Democratic candidates

:rolleyes

[boutons_]

NYT Survey Shows Uncommitted Superdelegates Favor Backing Popular Vote Winner

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/15/nyt-survey-shows-uncommit_n_91724.html

[xrayzebra]

Shhhh..........don't tell the board Republicans that, they're still under the dilusion that Demos are self-destructing...yeah, that's why people are voting in record numbers in primaries and caucuses for the Democratic candidates

:rolleyes

Shhhhh....don't tell dan that many of those voting in the
Demos primaries are Republicans. It will burst his
bubble.
:lol

[clambake]

his speech today clearly shows that he is the intellectual giant in this race for president.

[Yonivore]

his speech today clearly shows that he is the intellectual giant in this race for president.
Wait a minute. An ability to speak eloquently does not necessarily equate to intelligence. Public speaking is a learned skill and, when you apply that skill to words that may have been written by others, it can make you appear to be intelligent.

Ronald Reagan was as good at speaking (some might say better) as is Barack Obama and many on the left never accused him of being an intellectuall giant even though, I believe he was. Based not on his speaking but on his correspondence -- to his wife -- that were published for posterity.

Obama may, indeed, be that intelligent but his love of social programs that would bankrupt our nation don't suggest that.

[clambake]

bankrupt our nation? cry wolf, much?

[smeagol]

social programs that would bankrupt our nation don't

No need for social programs, the Irak war is doing a fine job at that . . .

[xrayzebra]

No need for social programs, the Irak war is doing a fine job at that . . .

I don't think so. We have spent much more on social programs than on National Defense.

[clambake]

giving all our money to a country thats making deals with the people we blame for killing our kids sounds like a pretty shitty program, don't ya think, old man?

[xrayzebra]

his speech today clearly shows that he is the intellectual giant in this race for president.

Yeah he can deliver a speech. He can also throw his
Grandmother under the bus and love his minister. He
is going to bring us all together. I don't think so. He
is a friggin liar in the first degree. Remember he wasn't
there for any of his most wonderful minister's sermon's
but now he was but just didn't agree with them.

He wants to raise taxes
He wants to have national health
He wants to surrender in Iraq
He supports his "hate" America minister
His wife has only liked America, it was such a mean
place, until he ran for President

Yeah he is going to bring everyone together. Get a
gripe Obama supporters, he isn't trying to bring anyone
together except the haters and liberal's. He is what he
is a smooth talking politicians and you better
recognize it.

[xrayzebra]

giving all our money to a country thats making deals with the people we blame for killing our kids sounds like a pretty shitty program, don't ya think, old man?

We are, want to expound on that statement!

[smeagol]

I don't think so. We have spent much more on social programs than on National Defense.


Social programs have a tangible benefit to American society.

Money going into the Irak war is like flushing George Washingtons down the toilette.

[Yonivore]

bankrupt our nation? cry wolf, much?
Have you seen the cost of the social programs he's proposing?

[JoeChalupa]

Governement spending has grown under Bush.

[JoeChalupa]

McCain knows.

[Yonivore]

No need for social programs, the Irak war is doing a fine job at that . . .
The cost of the Iraq war is a drop in the bucket compared to the Social programs of this country. Defense, including Iraq and Afghanistan comprise less that 10% of the U. S. budget where social programs, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc... make up almost 50% of the budget.

[Wild Cobra]

The cost of the Iraq war is a drop in the bucket compared to the Social programs of this country. Defense, including Iraq and Afghanistan comprise less that 10% of the U. S. budget where social programs, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc... make up almost 50% of the budget.
I don't know the breakdown, but much of the costs would still be there with no war since we maintain a strong standing Army. I'd say less than 5%.

[clambake]

I don't know the breakdown, but much of the costs would still be there with no war since we maintain a strong standing Army. I'd say less than 5%.
thats insane. the true cost are being hidden by the federal reserve, which pumps liquidity into the economy as if this new money was real.

now were spending 12 billion a month. we're paying factions not to kill each other (which is nothing more than a tourniquet to temporarily stem the flow of blood from an open artery) and giving money to the puppet govt. we installed to do little more than start cutting deals with a country we maintain is responsible for killing our kids.

[Wild Cobra]

thats insane. the true cost are being hidden by the federal reserve, which pumps liquidity into the economy as if this new money was real.

now were spending 12 billion a month. we're paying factions not to kill each other (which is nothing more than a tourniquet to temporarily stem the flow of blood from an open artery) and giving money to the puppet govt. we installed to do little more than start cutting deals with a country we maintain is responsible for killing our kids.
Assuming $12 B per month is correct, that is less than 5% (4.97%) of the $2.9 T budget. As I recall, congress keeps putting pork projects in the spending authorizations. How much of that $12 B is actually non war related?

[clambake]

if you keep the money in the states it benefits americans.

giving it to the nepolese or iraqi's does not stimulate the economy, it's just throwing it away.

[clambake]

oh, and pork? yeah, dump that shit.

[Wild Cobra]

if you keep the money in the states it benefits americans.
I will not disagree with it from that viewpoint. I was factually saying that 10% was a high number.


giving it to the nepolese or iraqi's does not stimulate the economy, it's just throwing it away.
I wouldn't call it throwing the money away, but it would be nice if the money did stay here.