Delagate counts so far...

[Nbadan]

It's all about the delegates...

Democrats (needed to win 2025)

Today Total

Cinton 38 297
Obama 41 210
Edwards

Republicans (needed to win 1191)

McCain 97 208
Romney 5 99
Huckabee 25 54
Paul 6

will update later....

[boutons_]

don't forget the superdelegates, there nearly 600 of them, I think. it's how the party establishment disenfranchises the electorate.

[Mr. Peabody]

ABC News just reported it as

Obama 197
Hillary 190

That's just today's totals and doesn't include Connecticut which was just called.

[Holt's Cat]

Looks like Huckabee has picked up 227 tonight.

[Holt's Cat]

Obama 606-534 so far... (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Bermans_count_606534.html)

[T Park]

Keep kickin ass Barack.

[Nbadan]

nothings going to be decided tonight on the Demo side....

[T Park]

according to CNN Live, Hillary has 299 delegates..

[Nbadan]

...but Berman has a lot of cred....

[td4mvp21]

Obama 606-534 so far... (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Bermans_count_606534.html)

:smokin

[GaryJohnston]

Delegate count so far by cnn.com

Obama 225

Bitch 299

[Mr. Peabody]

MSNBC Delegate count

Obama 594

Clinton 546

[RashoFan]

Just saw this on Yahoo...Thought I would share. If it has been posted already, I apologize. I don't come in this forum at all till now.

• Grateful Dead members hold S.F. concert to support Obama

[PixelPusher]

Delagate counts so far...
a.k.a. the only Super Tuesday thread that really means anything

[Nbadan]

Just saw this on Yahoo...Thought I would share. If it has been posted already, I apologize. I don't come in this forum at all till now.

Thanks RashoFan....always looking for more politics input from the ladies of ST

[RashoFan]

I really need to keep in touch with the 2008 Race 4 Prez. As I get older, these people appointed to be in charge have more infulence in the quality of what my future holds.

My input...OH HELL NO TO HILLARY!!! BILL FUCKING UP OUR COUNTRY AGAIN VIA THE MISSUS??? :dizzy

[RashoFan]

I am actually bored enough that I am putting Obama or Bitch on the state that they have won...:lol

[Nbadan]

MSNBC: Delegate Count

Clinton: 837

Obama: 841

[T Park]

My input...OH HELL NO TO HILLARY!!! BILL FUCKING UP OUR COUNTRY AGAIN VIA THE MISSUS???

Amen.

[spurster]

AP Delegate Count:
Democratic
Hillary Clinton 845
Barack Obama 765
Republican
John McCain 613
Mitt Romney 269
Mike Huckabee 190

[Extra Stout]

Democratic race here on out probably favors Obama slightly, but not enough to clinch the nomination. The delegate count will be very close, and the superdelegates probably will decide it for Hillary.

The GOP race is over; McCain is the nominee.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I really need to keep in touch with the 2008 Race 4 Prez. As I get older, these people appointed to be in charge have more infulence in the quality of what my future holds.

My input...OH HELL NO TO HILLARY!!! BILL FUCKING UP OUR COUNTRY AGAIN VIA THE MISSUS??? :dizzy


how did bill fuck up our country?

[JoeChalupa]

I remember the Clinton years to be okay. I wasn't hurting and to be honest I'm not really hurting now. But the high price of gas and groceries is of concern. Sure I'd like to bring home more take home pay but I also know that in today's world taxes are not going to go away.

[RashoFan]

how did bill fuck up our country?
I understand that alot of people will say so and so fucked up our country, so it is not limited to Bush, Clinton, Bush,Reagan,Nixon, etc...

IMO, Clinton downsizing the Military while he was in office is something I did not support! I think it had an effect(small or great) on how well we are able to protect ourselves on our soil. Back then, He was my Command In Chief BUT he was not my president.

I understand Bill had an opprotunity to get Bin Laden(secure or terminate...whichever I am not sure). Bin Laden's actions and terrorist plans have killed many, inculding SAILORS, which I was back in Desert Storm Era. Which does piss me off. I would personally like to take out Bin Laden myself.

I normally don't venture into the polictical forum and I admit I am ruled by my emotions. I am not by all means a political watching/analyzing person, but I am trying to expand my limited knowledge.

[BonnerDynasty]

how did bill fuck up our country?

I fear not even a republican congress and .com boom will save us. :(

ALL I ask is for our health care to not decline in quality. My dad was recently hospitalized and almost died and I am very thankful the doctors/surgeons/nursers were at the top of their game.

[boutons_]

"Clinton downsizing the Military while he was in office is something I did not support'

Did you have a financial interest in an upsized military?

The US had won the extremely expensive Cold War and had every right to collect a Peace Dividend from a down-sized military.

No country even has a military and industrial/logistical base to invade the USA, so fuck that red herring. US's military budget is bigger than the rest of the world's budgets combined, and 10x bigger than number 2, China.

A huge standing Army did fuck all to stop the 9/11 because that was a total, willful failure by the Commander in Chief.

[GaryJohnston]

"Clinton downsizing the Military while he was in office is something I did not support'

Did you have a financial interest in an upsized military?

The US had won the extremely expensive Cold War and had every right to collect a Peace Dividend from a down-sized military.

No country even has a military and industrial/logistical base to invade the USA, so fuck that red herring. US's military budget is bigger than the rest of the world's budgets combined, and 10x bigger than number 2, China.

A huge standing Army did fuck all to stop the 9/11 because that was a total, willful failure by the Commander in Chief.


You mean the war congress voted for? The one Hillary voted for?

[JoeChalupa]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the downsizing of the military begin under Bush I?

[JoeChalupa]

Miliary Down Sizing Under Clinton - Facts (http://redblueamerica.com/truthornot/2008-01-25/did-bill-clinton-use-peace-dividend-gut-military-604)

Don't blame it all on Clinton.

[boutons_]

why "blame" anybody? Who was/is against The Peace Dividend?

The biggest bitchers were and are the corrupt MIC that stood to lose 100s of $Bs in business.

The bloated defense budget is nothing but transfer of wealth from taxpayers to super-wealthy MIC management. MIC creates jobs? sure, so the US conFISCates tax $$ and to subsidize the MIC. socialism

[101A]

why "blame" anybody? Who was/is against The Peace Dividend?

The biggest bitchers were and are the corrupt MIC that stood to lose 100s of $Bs in business.

The bloated defense budget is nothing but transfer of wealth from taxpayers to super-wealthy MIC management. MIC creates jobs? sure, so the US conFISCates tax $$ and to subsidize the MIC. socialismBefore the War on Poverty, defense spending was nearly 50% of the national budget; it is now just under 20%.

You should be pleased at the reduction in Socialism since the mid '60's.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Didn't Dummy Dumsfeld and Dick Cheney propose and support military cuts in the 90's? weapons? Budget?... Wasn't Dummy the one who wanted a leaner, more mobile military?.. Oh wait it's Clinton's fault never mind.. We get it you hate the Clintons.. save all of the bull shit pinning everything on Clinton schtick and just post you hate them...

[George Gervin's Afro]

I understand that alot of people will say so and so fucked up our country, so it is not limited to Bush, Clinton, Bush,Reagan,Nixon, etc...

IMO, Clinton downsizing the Military while he was in office is something I did not support! I think it had an effect(small or great) on how well we are able to protect ourselves on our soil. Back then, He was my Command In Chief BUT he was not my president.

I understand Bill had an opprotunity to get Bin Laden(secure or terminate...whichever I am not sure). Bin Laden's actions and terrorist plans have killed many, inculding SAILORS, which I was back in Desert Storm Era. Which does piss me off. I would personally like to take out Bin Laden myself.

I normally don't venture into the polictical forum and I admit I am ruled by my emotions. I am not by all means a political watching/analyzing person, but I am trying to expand my limited knowledge.

Just to let you know that Dick Cheney , Bush 41, and Rummy all supported downsizing the military and it's budget. Most Clinton haters aren't intelletually honest enough to acknowledge that one of the main reasons to downsize was the end of the cold war. We didn't need as much stuff considering the fall of the USSR. As far as Bin laden goes please keep in mind that he hadn't done anything as of yet when Slick Willy had the opportunity and he stated as such. To put this into perspective if we had some nut go on Al-Jazeera today and proclaim death to America we would want Bush to go get the guy..does that make any sense? Do you realize how many people want our country wiped off the face of the earth? What would Bush do? Get some freak who hates us? Please never make judgements when you are given information from people who won't give you the whole story..by the way I really dig hot girls that are interested in politics.. :smokin

[George Gervin's Afro]

You mean the war congress voted for? The one Hillary voted for?


yeah with the information your hero gave them.. sort of like mommy and daddy giving you information on kicking your neighbors ass because he killed your cat...to then later find out after the ass kicking that he really had nothing to do with killing your animal..

so according to little gary your soley responsible for the consequences even though your parents lied to you..

[RashoFan]

I will admit I was younger when I served(18-24) and my point of view is limited from the inside looking in and the fact I was young, able to drink and didn't have parent reins holding me back for having a good time:eyebows. Regretfully I have not had much interest in politics and it will take some time before I can make decisions for myself in regards to politics, politicians , etc. without my emotions running my decisions for me.
And Yeah I don't like the Clintons overall.
But I really don't know I want as a presidential candidate or pres just yet...got to see what my needs and wants are and see which candidate has the campaign that will meet/fulfill those needs and wants. OMG...it sounds like I am looking for a boyfriend and a presidential candidate at the same fucking time! :dizzy


:lol

[fyatuk]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the downsizing of the military begin under Bush I?

Yep, Clinton just continued the process through BRAC, etc. In all fairness, you can't really blame Clinton for that since it was established policy before he took office.

If I remember right, there were a lot of regulations put in place that limited the information the intelligence networks could share put in under Clinton, and Clinton has the honor of being the first American President to codify into law that marraige is between a Man and a Woman. He also allowed greater freedom for the Government to jack the money being put away for SS, and got the weird government magic accounting to show a surplus. Oh, and don't forget regime change in Iraq was Clinton's policy (never acted on), and he bestowed MFN status to several major human rights violaters.

Other than that, he got lucky enough to ride the wave of post-Cold War economic boom.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I will admit I was younger when I served(18-24) and my point of view is limited from the inside looking in and the fact I was young, able to drink and didn't have parent reins holding me back for having a good time:eyebows. Regretfully I have not had much interest in politics and it will take some time before I can make decisions for myself in regards to politics, politicians , etc. without my emotions running my decisions for me.
And Yeah I don't like the Clintons overall.
But I really don't know I want as a presidential candidate or pres just yet...got to see what my needs and wants are and see which candidate has the campaign that will meet/fulfill those needs and wants. OMG...it sounds like I am looking for a boyfriend and a presidential candidate at the same fucking time! :dizzy


:lol


Don't mistake my clarifications on Clinton as an endorsement of his character . He is not as bad as most haters make him out to be.

[Wild Cobra]

Miliary Down Sizing Under Clinton - Facts (http://redblueamerica.com/truthornot/2008-01-25/did-bill-clinton-use-peace-dividend-gut-military-604)

Don't blame it all on Clinton.
But I do blame president Clinton. I have addressed this before, as I was in the military under president Bush(41) when this all started.

President Bush and congress put together a five year plan to reduce the forces. I think we can accept the link numbers that show president Bush reduced the military from 2.2 million to 1.8 million. This was acceptable. A few battle units were dissolved, but most of the cuts were in units that would never be in a war zone, replaced by civilian contract. My entire job field was one of them. We were the "AT&T" of the Army and Air Force. Once security needs was reduced, jobs like these were turned over to contract employees.

Now comes president Clinton, wanting to outdo president Bush. He now cuts the 1.8 million to 1.4 million. How did he do it? He continued to cut battle units that were deemed necessary to keep under president Bush. He also replaced supply operations, food serving operations, etc. to contact employees, causing the debacle with Halliburton. We should have never had contracted civilian employees working in a war zone. That was president Clinton's doing. We go to war with the military we have, and we had a crippled military left over from president Clinton.

[Wild Cobra]

Democratic race here on out probably favors Obama slightly, but not enough to clinch the nomination. The delegate count will be very close, and the super delegates probably will decide it for Hillary.

I haven't calculated to the extent I did before, but 61% of the super delegates have voted now and only 36% of the regular delegates have voted. Senator Clinton leads in the super delegate count, but senator Obama leads in the regular delegate count... Like I said about the trend earlier... If he keeps getting more of the regular delegates, there are so many more...



The GOP race is over; McCain is the nominee.

I hope not. I was pissed by the outcome. I have heard several possible explanations for it. All I can say is that the republican party will whither away if they keep moving away from the conservative base.

Romney still has a chance, hopefully conservatives will go out in force during the next elections. Hopefully, part of it was just the biggest liberal states also were in play, the real conservative oriented states haven't voted yet.

Wake up time! Come on conservatives... Get out and vote...

[GaryJohnston]

yeah with the information your hero gave them.. sort of like mommy and daddy giving you information on kicking your neighbors ass because he killed your cat...to then later find out after the ass kicking that he really had nothing to do with killing your animal..

so according to little gary your soley responsible for the consequences even though your parents lied to you..

Oh thats right, I forgot the whole conspiracy thing right. Bush was able to coerce an entire story and fake evidence with his entire cabinet, staff and Military leaders to dupe Congress. He had controll of all those people. Because the sole reason Bush wanted to go to war was for oil(the very little we get from Iraq) and to finish what his dad started and all that liberal filibusting that you and your kind do.

Thats right. You win, now go ahead and toke up, smoke yourself silly, and sing praises to all things left through your haze of bong smoke.

http://www.powerwashnetwork.com/images/smilies/smiley_guy_smoking_lg_wht.gif

[RobinsontoDuncan]

um you guys arguing that the clintons are bad for reducing the military budget are dumb. Uh....we should be spending between 800 billion and 1 trillion dollars on the military industrial complex per annum.

[George Gervin's Afro]

But I do blame president Clinton. I have addressed this before, as I was in the military under president Bush(41) when this all started.

President Bush and congress put together a five year plan to reduce the forces. I think we can accept the link numbers that show president Bush reduced the military from 2.2 million to 1.8 million. This was acceptable. A few battle units were dissolved, but most of the cuts were in units that would never be in a war zone, replaced by civilian contract. My entire job field was one of them. We were the "AT&T" of the Army and Air Force. Once security needs was reduced, jobs like these were turned over to contract employees.

Now comes president Clinton, wanting to outdo president Bush. He now cuts the 1.8 million to 1.4 million. How did he do it? He continued to cut battle units that were deemed necessary to keep under president Bush. He also replaced supply operations, food serving operations, etc. to contact employees, causing the debacle with Halliburton. We should have never had contracted civilian employees working in a war zone. That was president Clinton's doing. We go to war with the military we have, and we had a crippled military left over from president Clinton.


Who deemed these necessary and can you provide any documentation to back that up? If Clinton did cut back 'needed' battle untis then he deserves criticism but pardon me if I don't take your word for it. Is Clinton the first President to employ private contractors to supplement logistical support for the military? All I heard from the bushbots concerning Halliburton is that they proposed the lowest bid for these services which included the Clinton administration. Are you now saying that the HAlliburton deal is a bad one?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Oh thats right, I forgot the whole conspiracy thing right. Bush was able to coerce an entire story and fake evidence with his entire cabinet, staff and Military leaders to dupe Congress. He had controll of all those people. Because the sole reason Bush wanted to go to war was for oil(the very little we get from Iraq) and to finish what his dad started and all that liberal filibusting that you and your kind do.

Thats right. You win, now go ahead and toke up, smoke yourself silly, and sing praises to all things left through your haze of bong smoke.

http://www.powerwashnetwork.com/images/smilies/smiley_guy_smoking_lg_wht.gif

Hey dummy he could have witheld infromation that contradicted what he gave congress. For example the aluminum tubes he specifically mentioned. Your chickenhawk hero told the world that they could be used for nuclear purposes.. yet his own Scientists told him that the tubes in fact were to small for nuclear centrifuges and were most likely for mortar hardware... I wonder why he didn't mention that when he brought up the tubes in the first place...... hmmm and if he only told congress that they were for nuclear purposes that would be reason for war and proof he was trying to build more wmds... of course he didn't he must have forgot.. :rolleyes
You may call that a conspiracy but I call it a fact..There are other instances when Bush made comments he knew that weren't verified but hey what the hell we needed this war. Minions like you cheered like drugged monkeys when bush made these now known outrageous and unsubstantiated claims...

I know your still waiting for ther stockpiles of wmds to turn up....


Your right it's a conspiracy... now go back and pick your ann coulter book and continue memorizing the good parts.. don't play with me little man

[Extra Stout]

Romney still has a chance, hopefully conservatives will go out in force during the next elections. Hopefully, part of it was just the biggest liberal states also were in play, the real conservative oriented states haven't voted yet.

Wake up time! Come on conservatives... Get out and vote...
Much of the Deep South voted, and it voted for Huckabee, not Romney.

I just don't think there are nearly as many movement conservatives as there used to be. There are separate economic, fiscal, social, and neo-conservatives, but there currently is no one unifying leader to keep the coalition together, which is why all three remaining candidates are moderates except for one area each in which they are conservative (Romney-economic, Huckabee-social, McCain-defense).

Romney isn't really a conservative. He's just the designated anti-McCain candidate.

[Extra Stout]

Also, since McCain already has 720 delegates of the 1,191 needed, and most of the remaining states allocate their delegates proportionally, there's really no chance to stop McCain unless Romney starts getting 75% of the vote everywhere, which simply is not realistic.

[101A]

Also, Snake:

Wake up and smell the trend; the Bible belt DOES NOT support Romney. They WON'T vote for a Mormon. The only evangelicals who are voting for him probably don't know he is a Mormon (my sister - 40 year old youth minister didn't) - I tested my theory; I asked her if she would consider voting for Romney: "Yeah, he's alright, but I really like Huckabee." Me: "Did you know Romney is a Mormon?" Sister: "A Mormon? Oh, then, no way I would vote for him, I'll vote for McCain."

I understand it was a very un-scientific sampling of ONE, but it was EXACTLY the response I expected. If you have never attended an evangelical church, you don't understand (hell, they still have a problem with Catholics!)

[DarkReign]

I cant fucking believe this country.

The Demo party is a bankrupt organization of thieves.

The Demo nominee needs ~2200 delegates to win the primary, right?

Superdelagates comprise ~768 delegates (or some odd).

I hope this fucking country wakes up at some point. Tells you how much your vote means (ie NOTHING) in the primary if youre voting Demo.

And proportional delegation? WTF? This is just stupid. And Dems wonder why people laugh at them, not with them.

We have no fucking idea yet. Lame....just fucking lame.

[boutons_]

"we should be spending between 800 billion and 1 trillion dollars on the military industrial complex per annum."

US already spends that much, and more, every year. military, nuclear, fbi/nsa/nsa/cia, 2 wars, VA, etc, so what are you bitching about? not enough MIC $$ in YOUR pocket?

[DarkReign]

(hell, they still have a problem with Catholics!)

I was baptized Catholic, but obviously do not practice.

Funny story.

This new co-op girl was hired at our sister company. Nice girl, way too indoctrinated for her age, but nice.

Anyway, she brought up religion, so here was our conversation....


Me: So, are you Catholic?

Her: No, Im Christian.

Me: No, I asked if you were Catholic.

Her: Yeah, I know. Im Christian.

Me: So, Catholics arent Christian?

Her: (confused look on her face, then a laugh) Not even close.

End conversation.

Shes apart of some fringe cult-like Protestant religion. Shes 19, married and has never been out of the state, nor dated anyone else. Doesnt drink, doesnt smoke, doesnt swear (until recently, I hear) and thinks anyone who does is straight-up, no-questions-asked going to hell to burn for eternity.

I feel sorry for her in a way. Her husband (who is also very young) has started going to college recently and might be going away to a university soon. Rude awakening just around the corner....

[Holt's Cat]

I cant fucking believe this country.

The Demo party is a bankrupt organization of thieves.

The Demo nominee needs ~2200 delegates to win the primary, right?

Superdelagates comprise ~768 delegates (or some odd).

I hope this fucking country wakes up at some point. Tells you how much your vote means (ie NOTHING) in the primary if youre voting Demo.

And proportional delegation? WTF? This is just stupid. And Dems wonder why people laugh at them, not with them.

We have no fucking idea yet. Lame....just fucking lame.


lol

We have everyone and their dog railing against the current process and yet somehow the same old candidates end up being elected and when anyone who comes along who actually presents a change from the status quo then he's a quack. In the end, we get the government we deserve.

[JoeChalupa]

I cant fucking believe this country.

The Demo party is a bankrupt organization of thieves.

The Demo nominee needs ~2200 delegates to win the primary, right?

Superdelagates comprise ~768 delegates (or some odd).

I hope this fucking country wakes up at some point. Tells you how much your vote means (ie NOTHING) in the primary if youre voting Demo.

And proportional delegation? WTF? This is just stupid. And Dems wonder why people laugh at them, not with them.

We have no fucking idea yet. Lame....just fucking lame.


Just BARACK THE VOTE and your voice will be heard!!!

[George Gervin's Afro]

I cant fucking believe this country.

The Demo party is a bankrupt organization of thieves.

The Demo nominee needs ~2200 delegates to win the primary, right?

Superdelagates comprise ~768 delegates (or some odd).

I hope this fucking country wakes up at some point. Tells you how much your vote means (ie NOTHING) in the primary if youre voting Demo.

And proportional delegation? WTF? This is just stupid. And Dems wonder why people laugh at them, not with them.

We have no fucking idea yet. Lame....just fucking lame.

laughing at them? like voting them control of Congress laughing?

[boutons_]

"the sole reason Bush wanted to go to war was for oil"

the primary reason, not the sole. the other reasons and timing were equally illegit

"(the very little we get from Iraq)"

the objective was to get A LOT MORE OIL from Iraq (and Iran) under MORE favorable terms than before the war.

but keep paying attention, you are catching on.

[DarkReign]

laughing at them? like voting them control of Congress laughing?

Seen Congress lately? Is that what youre bragging about?

You and people like you on the "other" side, deserve this country, seriously you do.

You and people like you are FAR more concerned with party victories than actual VICTORY.

The Dems in control of Congress are just as ignorant and unqualified as the last batch of human waste to sit in their seats. The whole place smells and its going to take a revolution to get the stink out.

You, my friend, are nothing more than status quo. Too scared to change, too loyal to defect and too ignorant to know the difference.

[fyatuk]

I cant fucking believe this country.

The Demo party is a bankrupt organization of thieves.

The Demo nominee needs ~2200 delegates to win the primary, right?

Superdelagates comprise ~768 delegates (or some odd).



Republican winner needs about 1200 delegates, and 463 are unpledged. Both means if the unpledged delegates all vote in a block, that candidate is 1/3rd of the way to being the nominee.

Aka, the two parties are the same.

[spurster]

AP Delegate Count:

Overall, McCain leads with 707 delegates, to 294 for Romney and 195 for Huckabee. It takes 1,191 to win the nomination at this summer's convention in St. Paul, Minn.

Overall, Clinton has 1,045 delegates, to 960 for Obama with 2,025 delegates required to claim the nomination in Denver at this summer's convention.

[boutons_]

MI and maybe FL are making noises about holding "make up" primaries so their delegates get counted. Not sure if that you help Hillary or Barack.

The entire process is a fucking embarassing, over-complicated joke to subsidize the campaign industry and media.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Looks like CORSO was wrong about huckabee CORSO

hoh corso!

[George Gervin's Afro]

Seen Congress lately? Is that what youre bragging about?

You and people like you on the "other" side, deserve this country, seriously you do.

You and people like you are FAR more concerned with party victories than actual VICTORY.

The Dems in control of Congress are just as ignorant and unqualified as the last batch of human waste to sit in their seats. The whole place smells and its going to take a revolution to get the stink out.

You, my friend, are nothing more than status quo. Too scared to change, too loyal to defect and too ignorant to know the difference.


right.. just own up to the fact that I made your point look shallow and weak.... that's ok man...

[DarkReign]

right.. just own up to the fact that I made your point look shallow and weak.... that's ok man...

:lmao

Yeah, thats what you did. Just like you declare yourself the winner in every argument youve been in on this forum. Its called self-delusion. You seem to be suffering from it habitually.

The Dems got Congress not because people like Dems. They got Congress for the sake of change. Nothing else. Nada. Zippo. Zilch.

No other reason. Its not like everyone woke up in November 06 and said "Man, feels so goooooood being a Democrat. Cant wait to vote."


Reality is, troubling as it might be for a political hack like yourself, Congress changed hands for the sake of change.

What are you going to say when Congress inevitably goes back to a Repub majority this year or 2010 (im not sure of the total number of elections this year, or if its even possible)?

That the Repubs stole the elections? Its called balance, friend. Hate it all you like, but the 90s were incredible for a number of reasons, but a small portion of the credit goes to the fact that the Congress was Repub and the WH was Demo.

Repubs having control of both Congress and the WH was a political death sentence. That sentence was carried out in Nov 06.

Same will happen to Dems if they control both as well. Balance is all important, not political infatuations.

I think nothing would please you more than Dems controlling both Congress and the WH and being able to appoint some Justices too. you'd cream yourself before you could refresh your webpage.

[George Gervin's Afro]

:lmao

Yeah, thats what you did. Just like you declare yourself the winner in every argument youve been in on this forum. Its called self-delusion. You seem to be suffering from it habitually.

The Dems got Congress not because people like Dems. They got Congress for the sake of change. Nothing else. Nada. Zippo. Zilch.

No other reason. Its not like everyone woke up in November 06 and said "Man, feels so goooooood being a Democrat. Cant wait to vote."


Reality is, troubling as it might be for a political hack like yourself, Congress changed hands for the sake of change.

What are you going to say when Congress inevitably goes back to a Repub majority this year or 2010 (im not sure of the total number of elections this year, or if its even possible)?

That the Repubs stole the elections? Its called balance, friend. Hate it all you like, but the 90s were incredible for a number of reasons, but a small portion of the credit goes to the fact that the Congress was Repub and the WH was Demo.

Repubs having control of both Congress and the WH was a political death sentence. That sentence was carried out in Nov 06.

Same will happen to Dems if they control both as well. Balance is all important, not political infatuations.

I think nothing would please you more than Dems controlling both Congress and the WH and being able to appoint some Justices too. you'd cream yourself before you could refresh your webpage.


you really have no idea who your talking to. i am not a democrat first of all I am an independent. secondly you made the ridiculous comment that people laugh at the dems..yet the same voted them control of congress... no need to 'win' an argument when the one you proposed is based soley on your opinion.. can you find anything to back up your claim that 'people' laugh at the dems? better yet define the 'people' your referring to? not trying to win but in this case because you have such a weak argument it wouldn't be to hard to beat it.. so let's get back to your original point.. show me your evidence that 'people aren't laughing with the dems but at them'? you can easily review my posting history and find that I am hardly a dem kool aid drinker.. but I guess you don't have to because you already know that.. :rolleyes

Now I guess you are going to explain to me what the motives of the each voter was during the 2006 election cycles.. you are the kind of poster who is really good at assigning motives... Why do you do that? because if you couldn't interject people's motives into your argument it wouldn't be able to stand on it's own..

I have NEVER said the Republicans stole any election.. bush won fair and square in 2000 and have never wavered..but hey why am I telling you because you already knoa that..do me favor don't pretend to know me because it painfully obvious you have zero knowledge of who you are dealing with..

And for the record I have already stated that it isn't good for the country when one party has control of all 3 branches... but hey you already know that.. :rolleyes