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peewee's lovechild
02-07-2008, 02:01 PM
February 7, 2008 --

SCARLETT Johansson (below) has a steamy lesbian sex scene with Penelope Cruz in Woody Allen's upcoming "Vicky Cristina Barcelona." A source tells us: "It is also extremely erotic. People will be blown away and even shocked. Penelope and Scarlett go at it in a red-tinted photography dark room, and it will leave the audience gasping." The women later have a threesome with Javier Bardem (below), who plays Cruz's husband. The film also stars Patricia Clarkson, Rebecca Hall, Kevin Dunn and Chris Messina.

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http://www.nypost.com/seven/02072008/gossip/pagesix/sapphic_steam_441536.htm

spurs_fan_in_exile
02-07-2008, 02:14 PM
I'm getting mixed messages Peewee. The line about Scarlet and Penelope getting it on is bolded, showing that it is a point of emphasis (and rightfully so!). However the next line is underlined AND in italics, meaning that twice as much emphasis is put on that line. It would seem that you are saying that you are interested some hot Johannson on Cruz action, but twice as interested in the fact that Javier Bardim gets a sex scene as well.

peewee's lovechild
02-07-2008, 02:18 PM
Dude, a threesome is always good.

It's the closest we'll get to having a Scarlett porn.

First a lesbian scene, then a threesome???
How fucking sweet is that?

T Park
02-07-2008, 03:08 PM
Wow when does this movie come out....

bigzak25
02-07-2008, 03:35 PM
i don't know that penelope can be any hotter than she was in woman on top.

woody allen movies never interested me until now though.

peewee's lovechild
02-07-2008, 03:45 PM
You have to watch "Match Point".

ATRAIN
02-07-2008, 03:55 PM
question is will there be nudity or just like back and side profiles.

atxrocker
02-07-2008, 03:57 PM
cruz is sooooo fucking overrated it's not even funny. that said, a lesbo scene with scarlett may be worth the watch.

CuckingFunt
02-07-2008, 04:05 PM
God damn your decline in talent, Woody Allen, for making me unsure if I want to watch this.

E20
02-07-2008, 04:32 PM
WTF is up with Woody Allen always trying to cast Johanseen.

peewee's lovechild
02-07-2008, 05:28 PM
God damn your decline in talent, Woody Allen, for making me unsure if I want to watch this.

Match Point is actually one of the best movies he's ever made.

He's still got it.

peewee's lovechild
02-07-2008, 05:28 PM
WTF is up with Woody Allen always trying to cast Johanseen.

She's his new muse.

He's said it, she knows it, and she likes being his muse.

CuckingFunt
02-07-2008, 05:35 PM
Match Point is actually one of the best movies he's ever made.

He's still got it.I hated that film.

And it wasn't particularly innovative -- pretty much just a remake of his Crimes and Misdemeanors set in London.

T Park
02-07-2008, 05:39 PM
What was the name of the movie he made with Hugh Jackman and Scarlett Johannsen. I saw that movie on a plane last year and it was painfully bad.

CuckingFunt
02-07-2008, 05:40 PM
What was the name of the movie he made with Hugh Jackman and Scarlett Johannsen. I saw that movie on a plane last year and it was painfully bad.Scoop.

Ed Helicopter Jones
02-07-2008, 06:26 PM
WTF is up with Woody Allen always trying to cast Johanseen.

Perhaps because he has a penis?












If I knew her I'd be trying to 'cast' her all the live long day.

T Park
02-07-2008, 06:51 PM
Scoop.


Yes thats it.

That movie was like a pocketknife being dug into the back of my head.

desflood
02-07-2008, 06:57 PM
I quit watching Woody Allen when he turned out to be a bit of a pedophile.

E20
02-07-2008, 07:22 PM
Perhaps because he has a penis?






If I knew her I'd be trying to 'cast' her all the live long day.
No I read exclusively that he has a vagina.

Ronaldo McDonald
02-07-2008, 09:58 PM
scarlett mentioned in this interview i read a long time ago that she actually wanted to be naked (it may have been braless) for scene in this movie she was in even though the director didn't want that.

hopefully she does it in this movie. would be cool, and it would be the only reason to go see her in a movie because in every movie i have seen her in she sucks.

peewee's lovechild
02-08-2008, 10:33 AM
I hated that film.

And it wasn't particularly innovative -- pretty much just a remake of his Crimes and Misdemeanors set in London.

You're insane.

That movie had great acting and direction.

But, go ahead and hate on Woody if it's cool to do so.

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 10:45 AM
You're insane.

That movie had great acting and direction.
Sadly, those aren't the only things needed to make a good movie.

The Dude
02-08-2008, 10:46 AM
You mean, coitus?

peewee's lovechild
02-08-2008, 11:22 AM
Sadly, those aren't the only things needed to make a good movie.

So, there was something wrong with the plot??

If that's where you're going, then I don't think you understood the movie.

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 11:26 AM
So, there was something wrong with the plot??

If that's where you're going, then I don't think you understood the movie.
I understood it, I just didn't like it.

And is it really necessary to be a condescending prick every time someone disagrees with you?

Johnny_Blaze_47
02-08-2008, 11:30 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/JavierBardem.jpg

I get the whole Quagmire feel with this exact picture.

"Javier, a threesome with Scarlett and Penelope?"

"Hehe, all right...."

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 11:32 AM
I get the whole Quagmire feel with this exact picture.

"Javier, a threesome with Scarlett and Penelope?"

"Hehe, all right...."
I can almost hear the "Giggity."

peewee's lovechild
02-08-2008, 11:35 AM
I understood it, I just didn't like it.

And is it really necessary to be a condescending prick every time someone disagrees with you?

Yes, pretty much, when the arguement is weak.

You said that acting and directing aren't the only things that make for a good movie. What does that leave? Plot? Art direction? Costume design? Cinematography?

The only obvious thing after acting and directing is the script, or plot of the story. The plot of this story is about a guy who wants to get in good with a rich family at all costs. He's tired of living at the bottom of society. But, just when he gets what he wants, he falls for a vixen that excites his life. He would much rather be with the latter woman, but the woman he married ensures that he would have the life he's always wanted.

He tries to have a little bit of both, but then everything goes wrong when his paramour gets pregnant. The only choice he has, in order to keep his new life, is to kill his paramour.

That sounds like a good plot.

ploto
02-08-2008, 11:36 AM
I will never understand the obsession of heterosexual men in watching two women together.

I have ZERO heterosexual female friends who have any interest at all in watching two men go at it, not even if it's Brad Pitt and Orlando Bloom.

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 11:43 AM
Yes, pretty much, when the arguement is weak.
If my argument was really so weak, then couldn't you prove your point without the condescending response?


You said that acting and directing aren't the only things that make for a good movie. What does that leave? Plot? Art direction? Costume design? Cinematography?

The only obvious thing after acting and directing is the script, or plot of the story. The plot of this story is about a guy who wants to get in good with a rich family at all costs. He's tired of living at the bottom of society. But, just when he gets what he wants, he falls for a vixen that excites his life. He would much rather be with the latter woman, but the woman he married ensures that he would have the life he's always wanted.

He tries to have a little bit of both, but then everything goes wrong when his paramour gets pregnant. The only choice he has, in order to keep his new life, is to kill his paramour.

That sounds like a good plot.
Which is probably why you liked it.

To me, however, it sounds very much like the plot of a film that Woody Allen himself made twenty years ago. And I didn't much like it the first time.

When a director, for the second time, makes a film in which the male lead can fuck over and eventually kill a woman without suffering any consequences whatsoever, my inner female creep-o-meter starts to go off pretty vociferously and it doesn't make for a particularly pleasurable movie watching experience.

RashoFan
02-08-2008, 11:48 AM
Thanks Ploto, I would have never ever paired Brad and Orlando in any regards to any homosexual...anything. Now I may never be able to look upon there beautiful faces without the urge to :vomit:
Thanks a lot! :dramaquee

mrsmaalox
02-08-2008, 12:03 PM
..

Johnny_Blaze_47
02-08-2008, 02:07 PM
I will never understand the obsession of heterosexual men in watching two women together.

I have ZERO heterosexual female friends who have any interest at all in watching two men go at it, not even if it's Brad Pitt and Orlando Bloom.

http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20071212.gif

1369
02-08-2008, 02:17 PM
Giggity?

http://celebslam.buzznet.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/penelope-cruz-hayek-lesbian-7.jpg

http://kscakes.com/LolCats/Uploads/Saved/do-want-dowantdowantdowant.jpg

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 02:19 PM
It appears that picture was taken at the premiere of Bandidas.

Which was a completely horrible film, of course, unless you count the magnificent performance given by Salma Hayek's tits and ass. Truly award worthy.

1369
02-08-2008, 02:22 PM
Which was a completely horrible film, of course, unless you count the magnificent performance given by Salma Hayek's tits and ass. Truly award worthy.

Why yes....yes they are....

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1148/salmahayekdusktildawnfarm7.jpg

/Six more weeks in the bunk

atxrocker
02-08-2008, 02:22 PM
I will never understand the obsession of heterosexual men in watching two women together.



for the record, i have ZERO interest in seeing two nasty ass butch dykes going at eachother. now, two hot sexy freaky chicks getting nasty is never a bad thing.

jman3000
02-08-2008, 02:23 PM
trade in hayek for penelope and you have solid gold.

solid in more than one way.

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 02:28 PM
trade in hayek for penelope and you have solid gold.

solid in more than one way.Ditto x 1,000.

:hungry:







Well... not so much the last part.

peewee's lovechild
02-08-2008, 02:48 PM
When a director, for the second time, makes a film in which the male lead can fuck over and eventually kill a woman without suffering any consequences whatsoever, my inner female creep-o-meter starts to go off pretty vociferously and it doesn't make for a particularly pleasurable movie watching experience.


Feminism must've killed so many good movies for you.

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 02:55 PM
Feminism must've killed so many good movies for you.No. Not really. Match Point was just one of the few that really, really bothered me and made me feel uncomfortable.

Its overwhelmingly anti-feminist point of view was certainly not helping things, but in general I'm not a fan of films where I can't find a single character with whom I can sympathize. Or, if not sympathize, at least a character whose actions make sense within the framework of the film.

peewee's lovechild
02-08-2008, 03:07 PM
No. Not really. Match Point was just one of the few that really, really bothered me and made me feel uncomfortable.

Its overwhelmingly anti-feminist point of view was certainly not helping things, but in general I'm not a fan of films where I can't find a single character with whom I can sympathize. Or, if not sympathize, at least a character whose actions make sense within the framework of the film.

You couldn't sympathize with any of the women??

That doesn't make much sense.

The fact that the lead character bothered you so much should have given you a better appreciation for the women in the film. You should have been empathizing with them.

spurs_fan_in_exile
02-08-2008, 03:08 PM
Which was a completely horrible film, of course, unless you count the magnificent performance given by Salma Hayek's tits and ass. Truly award worthy.
GREATEST ACCEPTANCE SPEECH EVER.

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 03:14 PM
You couldn't sympathize with any of the women??

That doesn't make much sense.

The fact that the lead character bothered you so much should have given you a better appreciation for the women in the film. You should have been empathizing with them.The women in that film were merely plot points, and not fleshed out characters. Which was kind of the problem.

Scarlett Johansson's character in particular was written more as a problem for which we need to find a solution, rather than an actual human female with actual human feelings, motivations, and emotions. Bad girl - make trouble - need die. Character done.

ploto
02-08-2008, 04:26 PM
Thanks Ploto, I would have never ever paired Brad and Orlando in any regards to any homosexual...anything. Now I may never be able to look upon there beautiful faces without the urge to :vomit:
Thanks a lot! :dramaquee
My point exactly-- not an image you drool over.

peewee's lovechild
02-08-2008, 04:28 PM
The women in that film were merely plot points, and not fleshed out characters. Which was kind of the problem.

Scarlett Johansson's character in particular was written more as a problem for which we need to find a solution, rather than an actual human female with actual human feelings, motivations, and emotions. Bad girl - make trouble - need die. Character done.

You're missing the essence of the movie.

How far will you go to get what you want? What are you willing to do??

This wasn't about Woody degrading women.

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 04:31 PM
You're missing the essence of the movie.

How far will you go to get what you want? What are you willing to do??

This wasn't about Woody degrading women.I'm not missing the essence of anything.

I get the point Allen was trying to make, I just don't like the way he made it. At no point have I suggested that this film was about Woody Allen degrading women. It was about much more, it just so happened to degrade women along the way.

And, I didn't like it. You did. That's cool.

peewee's lovechild
02-08-2008, 04:33 PM
I'm not missing the essence of anything.

I get the point Allen was trying to make, I just don't like the way he made it. At no point have I suggested that this film was about Woody Allen degrading women. It was about much more, it just so happened to degrade women along the way.

And, I didn't like it. You did. That's cool.

So, all movies that happen to degrade women, intentionally or not, are bad movies in your opinion?

peewee's lovechild
02-08-2008, 04:33 PM
Because the Godfather movies should be shit for you.

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 04:35 PM
So, all movies that happen to degrade women, intentionally or not, are bad movies in your opinion?No. There are several films in my collection that I know for a fact are degrading to women, but they had enough else going for them that I was at least entertained. Match Point isn't one of those films.

peewee's lovechild
02-08-2008, 04:36 PM
No. There are several films in my collection that I know for a fact are degrading to women, but they had enough else going for them that I was at least entertained. Match Point isn't one of those films.

Do you like the Godfather movies?

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 04:36 PM
Do you like the Godfather movies?Very much so, yes.

peewee's lovechild
02-08-2008, 04:39 PM
But, how could you?

The Senator kills a woman and he get's away with it.

Sonny constantly treats his women like chattel.

Michael beats up on his wife and takes her children from her. He makes a servant out of his sister. Apolonia is just a background character.

For someone who has a strong feminist point of view, these are hard movies for you to defend.

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 04:51 PM
But, how could you?

The Senator kills a woman and he get's away with it.

Sonny constantly treats his women like chattel.

Michael beats up on his wife and takes her children from her. He makes a servant out of his sister. Apolonia is just a background character.

For someone who has a strong feminist point of view, these are hard movies for you to defend.You're arguing points that I never even tried to make. And doing a piss poor job of it, to boot.

Firstly, the moments you mentioned are minor plot points and not the thrust of the entire film/trilogy.

Secondly, as a woman of Sicilian descent, I can feel very secure in saying that the misogyny inherent in that culture is a pretty important part of establishing the make-up of the individual characters and their community as a whole. The Godfather is not a film in which an otherwise mild mannered tennis pro sees murder as the only way to clean up a mess he made, it's a film depicting a family/lifestyle in which violence is a very real and frequent part of their daily lives.

Lastly, this "strong feminist point of view" is something created entirely out of your imagination. I'm pretty much as far from a militant feminist as one could be. As I've already said, I can overlook certain instances of degradation and objectification for the sake of entertainment. The Godfather, and its sequel, is a film that had enough going for it outside of its treatment of women that I was still entertained and engaged by what what happening on the screen. Match Point, on the other hand, was not.

peewee's lovechild
02-08-2008, 04:54 PM
You're arguing points that I never even tried to make. And doing a piss poor job of it, to boot.

Firstly, the moments you mentioned are minor plot points and not the thrust of the entire film/trilogy.

Secondly, as a woman of Sicilian descent, I can feel very secure in saying that the misogyny inherent in that culture is a pretty important part of establishing the make-up of the individual characters and their community as a whole. The Godfather is not a film in which an otherwise mild mannered tennis pro sees murder as the only way to clean up a mess he made, it's a film depicting a family/lifestyle in which violence is a very real and frequent part of their daily lives.

Lastly, this "strong feminist point of view" is something created entirely out of your imagination. I'm pretty much as far from a militant feminist as one could be. As I've already said, I can overlook certain instances of degradation and objectification for the sake of entertainment. The Godfather, and its sequel, is a film that had enough going for it outside of its treatment of women that I was still entertained and engaged by what what happening on the screen. Match Point, on the other hand, was not.


Oh, I get it.

A little bit of misogyny is okay. And, it's okay if it's part of the culture. But, it's bad if a tennis player kills a woman.

Got it.

midgetonadonkey
02-08-2008, 04:57 PM
I think CuckingFunt wins.

CuckingFunt
02-08-2008, 04:57 PM
Got it.
Not even close.

But, I suspect you know that. And I've already been dragged further into this pointless argument than I ever wanted to go.

peewee's lovechild
02-08-2008, 04:59 PM
I think CuckingFunt wins.

I think you're right.

One can never win an argument vs. a feminist.

spurs_fan_in_exile
02-08-2008, 05:03 PM
How did a thread about some potential on screen HLA get turned into such a downer?

1369
02-09-2008, 01:07 AM
How did a thread about some potential on screen HLA get turned into such a downer?
Because peewee is an idiot.

midgetonadonkey
02-09-2008, 01:16 AM
peewee=spurstalks biggest dumbass

marini martini
02-09-2008, 01:17 AM
Because peewee is an idiot.


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