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Rummpd
02-07-2008, 05:38 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/marty_burns/02/07/west.rankings/index.html

The pecking order
Ranking all the West's contenders after two big deals
Posted: Thursday February 7, 2008 3:47PM; Updated: Thursday February 7, 2008 4:04PM


Shaq's return to the West doesn't change the fact that the Spurs remain the team to beat in the loaded conference.



So, Shaquille O'Neal, you're back in the West now? Bet you're just thrilled you get to face your old Lakers team and a certain You Know Who four times a year. And that doesn't count any potential playoff series against them (somewhere David Stern is drooling).

At any rate, Shaq, not much has changed out West since you left. It's still loaded with great frontcourt players -- Tim Duncan, Pau Gasol, Dirk Nowitzki, Carlos Boozer and David West, to name just a few. In other words, you had better bring your "A" game, big fella.

So what are your chances of getting that fifth ring? Well, it depends in part on you -- and whether you can stay healthy and find a way to blend into the Suns' high-octane offense. It also will come down in large part to matchups. (Think Dallas drawing Golden State in the first round last year.)

Anyway, Shaq, to help you get a read on your new old conference, we've put together a little crib sheet of how the race looks on paper to us. Keep in mind, the race is extremely close (through Wednesday, the top 10 teams were separated by 5 ½ games) and just about any team could wind up coming out of the pack. This is just how we view each team's chances to reach the NBA Finals. Feel free to pack it in your suitcase with your South Beach duds and size-22 sneakers:

1. San Antonio Spurs
Don't be fooled by their lackluster (at least for them) 31-16 record. They do this every season. The defending champs know how to pace themselves. They still own the West's best trio in Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker. They still have the game's best big man in Duncan, a proven coach in Gregg Popovich, a stout defense (albeit one that has not played up to championship standards so far this season) and the ability to play both up-tempo and in the half court. The biggest questions for them are whether Ginobili and Parker -- who have battled ailments all season -- can stay healthy, and whether aging role players Bruce Bowen, Michael Finley and Robert Horry have enough left in the tank for one more run.

2. Los Angeles Lakers
The addition of Gasol has vaulted them into this position. The 7-foot Spaniard gives L.A. an All-Star-caliber threesome (along with Kobe Bryant and Lamar Odom) to match the Spurs' and Suns'. Gasol's ability to play in the post and draw double teams will be huge, and he will take pressure off young Andrew Bynum in the middle. When the game slows down in the playoffs, the Lakers will be able to put a tall lineup on the floor with the 7-footers Bynum and Gasol, the 6-10 Odom, the 6-6 Bryant and the 6-2 Derek Fisher. But, most of all, the Lakers have Kobe. He's going to be so hyped to carry them to the Finals after the past few years. Along with coach Phil Jackson, it's enough to get the Lakers back to the top.

3. Dallas Mavericks
It's easy to dismiss these guys after last year's playoff debacle against the Warriors (and their collapse against the Heat in the 2006 Finals). It's also true that they already have lost as many games (15) as they did all last season. But, like the Spurs, they could be pacing themselves. Nowitzki, Josh Howard and Jason Terry give them a formidable trio, and Devin Harris reminds some of San Antonio's Parker with his ability to get in the lane off the dribble. The key for the Mavs will be whether they can get the post play they need in the playoffs. Nowitzki was not able to deliver against Golden State a year ago. The reigning MVP will need to provide more of that dimension, or coach Avery Johnson will have to come up with some other plan (like maybe acquiring Jason Kidd and playing a more up-tempo style) if the Mavs are going to go all the way.

4. Phoenix Suns
Regardless of what you think about the Shaq trade -- and the wisdom of breaking up a team that was already close -- the Suns still have to be considered serious contenders. In fact, one betting Web site now has them at 2-to-1 (up from 5-2) to win the NBA crown. It's just that Phoenix is now much more of a wild card. It could go up. It could go down. The Suns are going to miss Shawn Marion at both ends. But if Shaq stays in uniform and finds a way to shore up their half-court defense against the likes of Duncan, Nowitzki, Boozer and Yao Ming, they might actually be more equipped for a postseason run. However, if Shaq can't be more than just a big body, or if he is in a suit on the bench come playoff time, Phoenix is toast.

The pecking order (cont.)
Posted: Thursday February 7, 2008 3:47PM; Updated: Thursday February 7, 2008 4:04PM


5. Utah Jazz

After a so-so start, All-Star power forward Carlos Boozer and the Jazz have caught fire.
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The NBA's hottest team won its 10th consecutive game Wednesday to climb within 2½ games of West-leading Phoenix. With Deron Williams, Boozer and Mehmet Okur, they have the outside-inside combo to match up with any team. Andrei Kirilenko can be a force when his head is on right. They also have that Jerry Sloan tough-as-nails mentality. It seemed like they came up with every loose ball and made every big play in the fourth quarter of their playoffs series wins over the Rockets and Warriors last year en route to the conference finals. The addition of Kyle Korver, meanwhile, gives them an outside shooter now to spread the floor. But Utah is not a great defensive team, and it struggles mightily on the road. Without home-court advantage in the later rounds, it's hard to see the Jazz getting far.

6. Golden State Warriors
Like the Suns in past years, they don't rebound or defend well enough to go all the way. Still, they are a dangerous team that nobody will want to face in the playoffs. Baron Davis is capable of taking over a game with his ability to muscle his way into the lane or shoot from downtown. Stephen Jackson, Al Harrington, Monta Ellis, Matt Barnes, Andris Biedrins (and perhaps newcomer Chris Webber) all are capable of big nights. Don Nelson is an experienced hand who knows how to make adjustments. Throw in the confidence they gained from last year's upset of the Mavs, and it's no stretch to see them pulling off another surprise or two in the postseason.

7. New Orleans Hornets
If you're looking for a dark horse, this is your team. Coming off an injury-ravaged 39-43 season a year ago, the Hornets weren't expected to make much noise this year. But Chris Paul and Co. have been one of the league's big surprises, racking up a 33-15 record to tie Dallas for the Midwest Division lead. Paul has been sensational at point guard, while West is a near 20-10 guy at power forward who just earned his first All-Star berth. Tyson Chandler's continued emergence as a rebounder/shot-blocker in the middle and Peja Stojakovic's return to health also have been keys to the Hornets' surge. New Orleans has the overall balance to make a serious run, but its core is still young and inexperienced in the ways of the postseason.

8. Houston Rockets
Picked by many to be a serious title contender, they got off to a poor start (15-16 through December) under new coach Rick Adelman. But injuries to Tracy McGrady and a rough early schedule probably had more to do with it than anything else. McGrady is now back in the lineup, albeit with a sore knee, and Houston has won eight of nine to rekindle some of those preseason expectations. With T-Mac and Yao, the Rockets certainly can't be counted out. The schedule is about to turn favorable as well, so they should continue to make up ground in the next two months. But Houston still doesn't have a quality point guard to match up with the likes of Nash, Parker, Paul and Williams. That weakness, combined with McGrady's chronic knee and back problems, makes the Rockets an iffy proposition to make the playoffs let alone contend for the conference title.

9. Denver Nuggets
Carmelo Anthony. Allen Iverson. Kenyon Martin. Marcus Camby. The Nuggets certainly have the big-name players to rival any team in the West. They also have a veteran coach in George Karl to manage all the egos. But Denver has been up and down the past two seasons, and that's not likely to change. The Nuggets just don't care enough about defense. They also don't have a point guard to match up against all those elite QBs in the West. Furthermore, they never get to establish any continuity in the rotation because they have players in and out of the lineup all the time with injuries. Now if they could somehow get Kidd ...

10. Portland Trail Blazers
The NBA's youngest team, they have shocked the league with their poise and teamwork en route to a 28-20 record. Brandon Roy's emergence as a leader has enabled them to play with anybody, as proved by a 13-game winning streak in December. But the Blazers are 6-7 in their last 13 games and currently sit out of the playoff picture. Just making it to the postseason would represent a major accomplishment and step forward for their future, especially with injured top pick Greg Oden slated to join them next season.

remingtonbo2001
02-07-2008, 05:42 PM
When did Lamar Odom become an All-Star?

T Park
02-07-2008, 05:48 PM
4. Phoenix Suns
Regardless of what you think about the Shaq trade -- and the wisdom of breaking up a team that was already close -- the Suns still have to be considered serious contenders. In fact, one betting Web site now has them at 2-to-1 (up from 5-2) to win the NBA crown. It's just that Phoenix is now much more of a wild card. It could go up. It could go down. The Suns are going to miss Shawn Marion at both ends. But if Shaq stays in uniform and finds a way to shore up their half-court defense against the likes of Duncan, Nowitzki, Boozer and Yao Ming, they might actually be more equipped for a postseason run. However, if Shaq can't be more than just a big body, or if he is in a suit on the bench come playoff time, Phoenix is toast.


Spot on.

Cry Havoc
02-07-2008, 05:53 PM
Honestly. Suns proponents (T-park, Mardy), what the HELL are the Suns going to do on defense without Marion when Shaq sits for 20-24 minutes per game? The Spurs will put up 35-40 a quarter. Nash, Bell, Hill, Diaw, Amare. There is one good and one decent defender and three HORRIBLE defenders in that lineup. Without KT, they have no one at all to guard the lane when Shaq sits. And I seriously doubt he'll make enough of a difference when he's playing to make up for it.

T Park
02-07-2008, 05:55 PM
I hope your right.

Rummpd
02-07-2008, 05:58 PM
Right now I would put Utah above Suns and possibly the Hornets and can the Mavs shake the mental turmoils of another possible W flameout - darn W is tough!

Parker will now absolutely destroy Steve Nash. Oh next year is going to be fun when Tiago joins Spurs!

Ed Helicopter Jones
02-07-2008, 06:14 PM
The best line of that article had to do with matchups.

I'd bet that once the seeds are set we'll be able to guess fairly easily at who's got the advantage each round.

I'm interested to see what sort of impact Shaq has on Phoenix, positive or negative. IMO, the Matrix brought a lot to the Suns. His loss may outweigh what they've gained from getting Shaq. But we'll see.

duncan228
02-07-2008, 06:21 PM
So, Marty Burns writes to Shaq...


Anyway, Shaq, to help you get a read on your new old conference, we've put together a little crib sheet of how the race looks on paper to us.

And says this...


They still have the game's best big man in Duncan

:lmao I'm sure Shaq loved reading that! The truth hurts.

Cry Havoc
02-07-2008, 06:32 PM
So, Marty Burns writes to Shaq...

And says this...

:lmao I'm sure Shaq loved reading that! The truth hurts.


haahaha, or in your case, provokes extreme arousal. :p:

duncan228
02-07-2008, 07:09 PM
haahaha, or in your case, provokes extreme arousal. :p:

Second time I've said this today...Let's not go into the hot and bothered Duncan effect. :)

MajicMan
02-07-2008, 07:46 PM
Spurs don't repeat so don't be so sure of yourselves.

Amuseddaysleeper
02-07-2008, 07:48 PM
Spurs don't repeat so don't be so sure of yourselves.

and suns don't win, period.

callo1
02-07-2008, 08:40 PM
Spurs don't repeat so don't be so sure of yourselves.


The Suns repeat every season.


They repeatedly get their asses knocked out of the playoffs. :lol

I do not agree with this article. Snaq will not have to face Kobe's Lakers or the big men in the West four times per year. He will probably miss two or three of those games sitting his broken down ass on the bench injured, so in truth he will probably on play them once or twice.

milkyway21
02-07-2008, 08:59 PM
reality check. If Shaq is healthy in playoffs, Phoenix is a dangerous team and will become a serious competition to the Spurs' quest for a repeat. He doesn't have to score. But at least gave a lot of help to Amare to be out of foul trouble. We know how Amare cannot stay on court longer than he used to when they play against the Spurs because of that.

With Shaq taking some minutes guarding Tim inside Amare's primary concern is to score, lesser minutes to guard Duncan.

But this doesn't necessarily mean they are now better team than the Spurs but they just became better with a big man like Shaq in the middle.

exstatic
02-07-2008, 09:03 PM
Spurs don't repeat so don't be so sure of yourselves.
Sun fan needs to concentrate on the nearly impossible task of his team "peating" first, before he cracks on the Spurs about not repeating.

callo1
02-07-2008, 09:08 PM
reality check. If Shaq is healthy in playoffs, Phoenix is a dangerous team and will become a serious competition to the Spurs' quest for a repeat. He doesn't have to score. But at least gave a lot of help to Amare to be out of foul trouble. We know how Amare cannot stay on court longer than he used to when they play against the Spurs because of that.

With Shaq taking some minutes guarding Tim inside Amare's primary concern is to score, lesser minutes to guard Duncan.

But this doesn't necessarily mean they are now better team than the Spurs but they just became better with a big man like Shaq in the middle.

Shaq is nothing more than a pylon...allbeit big pylon on defense now days and has been for the past few years. He won't even help keep Amare out of foul trouble because Amare will have to help step up and meet Shaq's man at them rim as they go around Shaq...Amare's foul problems will persist.

Marion was often put on opposing teams pg's and that can no longer take place. Nash will be exposed nightly (see Chris Pauls 42 last night)

Jerry's kids could get around Shaq one on one.

Pick 'N roll Pick 'N roll Pick 'N roll Pick 'N roll Pick 'N roll and a bit more Pick 'N roll for good measure.


Just my 2 cents

ludda
02-07-2008, 11:10 PM
Right now its hard to tell other team's true colors IMO.
Suns: big risk, potential big rewards situation, but mostly big risk. If Shaq has enough in the tank for one more playoffs run, they could be more of a threat.

Lakers: how Kobe-Bynum-Gasol will work together. Obviously on paper, they are very dominant and I'd say they have a great chance of going far in the playoffs.

Hornets: are they for real in the playoffs? Bench and experience are questionable I guess, but if they continue to play well, they could surprise everyone.

Jazz: They have a loaded team and have been on fire with Korver, a great addition. Defense is questionable, but they also could go far.

Mavs: Hard to read. Inconsistent this season, could be pacing or just regressed. I think they need to make a trade. They look pretty mediocre right now (despite their record) and they have a huge monkey on their backs. Hard to say, the media is dismissing them but they fold under too much pressure.

Princess Pimp
02-08-2008, 02:35 AM
Keep Wishing Bitches..

Btw Where Is My Bitch?