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Buddy Holly
02-07-2008, 07:09 PM
Three team trade.

Spurs: Finley, Barry and Ian to Miami. Elson to Memphis

Miami: Haslem to San Antonio. Jason Williams to Memphis

Memphis: Mike Miller to San Antonio. Darko to Miami

Spurs:

Miller
Haslem

Heat:

Barry
Finley
Darko
Ian

Grizz:

Williams
Elson

himat
02-07-2008, 07:14 PM
That would be a very bad move for Memphis...but they did that stupid trade with the Lakers.

If I was the Spurs heck yeah. If I was Miami I might do that trade. If I was Memphis I would not do that trade.

Joe Schmoogins
02-07-2008, 07:16 PM
i don't see why the grizz would want to do that trade. And I don't think I could part with both Finley and Barry. I feel like we'd be giving up too much.

ChumpDumper
02-07-2008, 07:18 PM
Seems to work for everyone ok except Miami would really have to like Darko to do that.

T Park
02-07-2008, 07:19 PM
Where do I sign.

Mr. Body
02-07-2008, 07:22 PM
Well, hell yes, but would the others do it?

MaNu4Tres
02-07-2008, 07:40 PM
Lol Tpark you criticized me a week ago about Miller. And were persistant in how we would keep Finley no matter what.


What about this trade..

Barry Elson Finley 1st rounder for Richard Jefferson?

I'm not saying i would do this...Just wondering y'alls opinion.

Xylus
02-07-2008, 07:43 PM
This would be a steal for the Spurs.

The Heat might make the trade.

The Grizzlies would be idiots to make the trade, but if they'd give up Pau for Kwame, who knows what else they'd do.

T Park
02-07-2008, 07:50 PM
Lol Tpark you criticized me a week ago about Miller. And were persistant in how we would keep Finley no matter what.



If I had to trade Finley though to get Haslem also I would do it.

Getting rid of Finley and barry and getting Miller and Haslem back, I could live with.

T Park
02-07-2008, 07:51 PM
Well, hell yes, but would the others do it?

Pretty much what I thought :tu

td4mvp21
02-07-2008, 08:03 PM
Mike Miller's career averages in the playoffs: 9.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 40% fg, 34% 3fg. That, compared to his career averages during the regular season: 14.4 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 46% fg, 40 % 3fg. He averages 17 ppg, 7 rpg, 51% fg, 43% 3fg this season. I don't like those playoff numbers.

Joe Schmoogins
02-07-2008, 08:10 PM
Getting rid of Finley and barry and getting Miller and Haslem back, I could live with.

I still don't think it would be wise to get rid of both of them. Not only would we be losing 2 shooters... but we'd be losing a lot of chemistry and people who understand our system. I think that equates to losing a lot of the edge we have. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE Miller and Haslem as Spurs... but I am very hesitant to drop both Finley and Barry.

mikejones99
02-07-2008, 08:27 PM
no, no trades needed you stupid fuckers

Xylus
02-07-2008, 08:28 PM
Mike Miller's career averages in the playoffs: 9.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 40% fg, 34% 3fg. That, compared to his career averages during the regular season: 14.4 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 46% fg, 40 % 3fg. He averages 17 ppg, 7 rpg, 51% fg, 43% 3fg this season. I don't like those playoff numbers.
Out of curiosity, how many playoff games has he played?

T Park
02-07-2008, 08:30 PM
Some with Orlando, some with Memphis

I'll estimate 8 or 9.

td4mvp21
02-07-2008, 08:31 PM
Out of curiosity, how many playoff games has he played?

20 games

T Park
02-07-2008, 08:32 PM
Wow 20?

Didn't know that.

td4mvp21
02-07-2008, 08:34 PM
Wow 20?

Didn't know that.

Yeah, more than I thought at first.

T Park
02-07-2008, 08:35 PM
To his defense hes never had a Tim Duncan to suck up the defenders :)

AFBlue
02-07-2008, 08:36 PM
Why do people insist on proposing complicated three-team trades?

Most of the time, a third party is only involved out of necessity to make the contracts match. Spurs do not necessarily NEED to do anything but shed salary and there are plenty of ways to do that withough involving a third team.

td4mvp21
02-07-2008, 08:37 PM
To his defense hes never had a Tim Duncan to suck up the defenders :)

True. I just don't want another Hedo :lol

SPURS vs NBA media
02-07-2008, 08:46 PM
Barry going NO WHERE

AFBlue
02-07-2008, 08:52 PM
Barry going NO WHERE

Udoka has performed pretty well in his absence and getting Stoudamire eliminates Barry's need to be the emergency third PG.

He actually might go somewhere....

Mr. Body
02-07-2008, 09:25 PM
Mike Miller's career averages in the playoffs: 9.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 40% fg, 34% 3fg. That, compared to his career averages during the regular season: 14.4 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 46% fg, 40 % 3fg. He averages 17 ppg, 7 rpg, 51% fg, 43% 3fg this season. I don't like those playoff numbers.
Fairly small sample size, a good part of it against the Spurs. All of it against far superior competition. Memphis was never a terribly cohesive team to begin with.

Meanwhile, Miller was pretty much the second option on all those teams... here he would be fourth. That means the third best perimeter defender would be on him.

Those playoff number don't tell a lot of the story.

genomefreak13
02-07-2008, 09:33 PM
Three team trade.

Spurs: Finley, Barry and Ian to Miami. Elson to Memphis

Miami: Haslem to San Antonio. Jason Williams to Memphis

Memphis: Mike Miller to San Antonio. Darko to Miami

Spurs:

Miller
Haslem

Heat:

Barry
Finley
Darko
Ian

Grizz:

Williams
Elson


I think it would be to costly for the spurs. Barry is shooting well this season and is good for two positions. Finley on the other hand has shown that he can gel well with the spurs. This blockbuster trade would somehow disrupt the team's chemistry. I'm not getting to sentimental, but I like the team - the way it is.

remingtonbo2001
02-07-2008, 09:36 PM
If that's are only option, I'd rather just stand pat.

td4mvp21
02-07-2008, 09:40 PM
Fairly small sample size, a good part of it against the Spurs. All of it against far superior competition. Memphis was never a terribly cohesive team to begin with.
Right...the same competition we now face against Phoenix, Dallas, and the Lakers.


Meanwhile, Miller was pretty much the second option on all those teams... here he would be fourth. That means the third best perimeter defender would be on him.
Good point. However, he's a scorer and if the Spurs aquired him I will bet you he will be seeing time with Ginobili on the court. Him and Gino will need to be able to create. With the way Pop manages rotations, he might see a top-notch defender. We don't know.



Those playoff number don't tell a lot of the story.
Perhaps.

some_user86
02-07-2008, 09:41 PM
Udoka has performed pretty well in his absence and getting Stoudamire eliminates Barry's need to be the emergency third PG.

He actually might go somewhere....

Really? Udoka has performed that well? From where I am sitting he has become inconsistent. He performs well for a few days and then stalls.

We need Barry's insurance policy. He's like Kerr was to the 2003 team.

genomefreak13
02-07-2008, 10:02 PM
All those in favor will be happy...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=42~234~242~2774~2184~933~2171~ 558&teams=14~29~14~14~24~29~14~24&te=&cash=

Mr. Body
02-07-2008, 10:16 PM
The sticking point is Finley. I don't think the Spurs trade him, for the good faith he had in coming here. I also don't see the team gutting their bench...

Barry you have to consider not playing for us again this year, so that's fine. But Finley by now has too much corporate knowledge to let go, even if you discount any loyalty we might have to him.

Unfortunately, if you take out Finley (and I think you have to) and put in Bonner, the trade doesn't work under the CBA. You'd have throw in Vaughn to make it work, and I simply don't see that happening.




Not that anything like this would happen in the first place.

my2sons
02-07-2008, 10:33 PM
how many contracts ould that put on the miami team?