latino.........bullshit.

[inconvertible]

Puerto Ricans+MEX+CUBAN.......DOES NOT = LATINO

fucking dumb ass honkeys

[JoeChalupa]

Si Se Puede!!!!!

[Oh, Gee!!]

I love how your threads are always context-free.

[Mr. Peabody]

I love how your threads are always context-free.

Well, the thread's lack of context allows the to reader play a role in determining what the thread is about. It's just a little post-modernism for this board. It bothers you because you are so rigid in your comprehension and you need information spoon-fed to you.

[ALVAREZ6]

wtf ???

[johnsmith]

Puerto Ricans+MEX+CUBAN.......DOES NOT = LATINO

fucking boss

Fixed.

[ChumpDumper]

I love how your threads are always context-free.Content free as well.

Message board rice cakes.

[MannyIsGod]

I dont' know whats worse, the OP or the Chalupa follow up.

[JoeChalupa]

I dont' know whats worse, the OP or the Chalupa follow up.

Porque? No habla espanol?

[mikejones99]

Latino leaders need to pull their heads out and stop alloying their people to vote for a bitch. blacks> Bitches

[smeagol]

Agries = Latinos?

[Nbadan]

Latinos in TX need to take a long siesta...like until Fiesta....


Depending on Hispanic Turnout, Clinton is Either Slightly Ahead, or Not so Slightly Ahead, in Texas Democratic Primary: In a Democratic Primary in Texas today, 02/18/08, 15 days to the vote, Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama 50% to 45%, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted exclusively for KTRK-TV Houston, KTVT-TV Dallas, and KRLD-AM radio Dallas. BUT: there is "give" in these numbers that must be mentioned in the same breath. Among Hispanic voters, Clinton leads 2:1. SurveyUSA estimates that Hispanics make-up 32% of Democratic primary voters in a Primary today. If Hispanics vote in larger numbers, Clinton's lead is larger than the 5 points shown here. If Hispanics vote in smaller numbers, Obama runs stronger than these numbers show.

SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=a727cce1-0546-4909-95cf-02f3bc9ab73c)

[mikejones99]

obama is pulling almost even in texas

[BonnerDynasty]

Dems will have illegals voting in no time.

[Wild Cobra]

Dems will have illegals voting in no time.
They already do in states like mine. In Oregon, they get registered to vote when they get their drivers license!

[xrayzebra]

They already do in states like mine. In Oregon, they get registered to vote when they get their drivers license!

Wonder if Billary wants to kick Billary's butt for getting
that law passed, now! Yes, I know used the same name
twice, but they are co-canidates.

[smeagol]

I eat plenty of empanadas con vino.

Also chorizo.

Pinche guey!

[DarkReign]

Figured this thread is as fucked as any, so I'll interject with a question...

Is Spanish like French in that the dialects spoken can almost be different languages?

For example...Smeagol resides in Argentina, most Spanish speaking peeps in America come from Mexico....any difference?

[JoeChalupa]

Figured this thread is as fucked as any, so I'll interject with a question...

Is Spanish like French in that the dialects spoken can almost be different languages?

For example...Smeagol resides in Argentina, most Spanish speaking peeps in America come from Mexico....any difference?

I don't know about different language but I agree on different dialects. The Spanish you hear in CA is not quite the same as in TX or OH or other parts of the country of the world. I've spoken spanish in OH, TX, CA, HI, MI, Mexico, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Africa and other parts of the world and it isn't always spoken the same but I wouldn't necessarily call it a different language.

[JoeChalupa]

you spoke spanish in portugal? did anyone understand you?

Yeah, they were speaking spanish but in a dialect that was foreign to me. But we could understand each other enough. Then again there were times when I got the "what the hell are you talkin' about" look.

[mrsmaalox]

Yeah, they were speaking spanish but in a dialect that was foreign to me. But we could understand each other enough. Then again there were times when I got the "what the hell are you talkin' about" look.

Maybe that dialect was Portuguese? I visited Macau a few years back and they spoke a Chinese-Portuguese dialect. My Spanish did not help at all!:lol

[inconvertible]

if you are hispanic your origin is spain. if you latino is your orgin based in italy?....ergo, are italians latino?

[Kori Ellis]

Who was this thread directed at?

[smeagol]

Figured this thread is as fucked as any, so I'll interject with a question...

Is Spanish like French in that the dialects spoken can almost be different languages?

For example...Smeagol resides in Argentina, most Spanish speaking peeps in America come from Mexico....any difference?
Spanish is Spanish, wether you speak it in CA, Mexico, Spain or Chile, Guatemala, Peru, PR or Venezuela. It is always Spanish.

It's like English spoken in England, Australia, India or America. Different accents, same language.

[smeagol]

if you are hispanic your origin is spain. if you latino is your orgin based in italy?....ergo, are italians latino?
Italian, the language, has Latin origin. So does Spanish, Portuguese and French.

[smeagol]

calling out the M$M for lumping together multiple ethnic groups under one convenient label because they like tacos, have brown skin and look like they might speak spanish (and worship the virgin mary and statues of saints)

Plenty of Argentines, Chileans, Brazilieans, etc, that have light skin, blue eyes an speak Spanish/Portuguese.

They don't worship the Virgin Mary and statues of saints, though.

[Kriz-Maxima]

if you are hispanic your origin is spain. if you latino is your orgin based in italy?....ergo, are italians latino?


latins are any group of people whose language has its origin in latin

French, spanish, portuguese, italian, ect

[DarkReign]

I don't know about different language but I agree on different dialects. The Spanish you hear in CA is not quite the same as in TX or OH or other parts of the country of the world. I've spoken spanish in OH, TX, CA, HI, MI, Mexico, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Africa and other parts of the world and it isn't always spoken the same but I wouldn't necessarily call it a different language.

So it isnt as terribly drastic, then. Thanks for the answer. :tu

[Extra Stout]

'Latino' is short for 'latinamericano.'

[Extra Stout]

Figured this thread is as fucked as any, so I'll interject with a question...

Is Spanish like French in that the dialects spoken can almost be different languages?

For example...Smeagol resides in Argentina, most Spanish speaking peeps in America come from Mexico....any difference?
In Spain, there are different dialects that are only moderately mutually intelligible, such as Catalan and Galician. In Latin America, almost everybody speaks a variant of Castilian Spanish. Argentine Spanish is the most different from the rest of Latin American because of the Italian influence. They also use a different pronoun for informal 'you.'

[Extra Stout]

'Hispanic' only means anything when contrasted with 'Anglo.' It refers to the language of the culture from which one comes. I am considered 'Anglo' even though I have virtually no English ancestry. This is because I speak English, and my ancestors going back three generations have spoken only English. A 'Hispanic,' by contrast, is somebody who comes from a Spanish-speaking culture (even if they themselves do not speak it).

[smeagol]

'Hispanic' only means anything when contrasted with 'Anglo.' It refers to the language of the culture from which one comes. I am considered 'Anglo' even though I have virtually no English ancestry. This is because I speak English, and my ancestors going back three generations have spoken only English. A 'Hispanic,' by contrast, is somebody who comes from a Spanish-speaking culture (even if they themselves do not speak it).

Manny is Hispanic (I think), even though he does not speak the language.

[smeagol]

'Latino' is short for 'latinamericano.'
So I'm a Latino . . .

[Extra Stout]

what about chicano
I believe that term specifically refers to a Mexican or Mexican-American of Mestizo or Amerindian descent. It is derived from a pejorative term that Europeanized Mexicans used for them, to mock their Aztec accents. Amerindians pronounce the name of the country "Meshico" or "Mechico," and are therefore "Mechicanos."

[Wild Cobra]

yet folks can never produce even one undocumented immigrant who has voted
No, it has been shown. Illegal immigrant groups even stated on the record they would no longer be able to vote with proposed changes! The Oregon's Secretary of State is responsible for enforcing the rules. He doesn't at all. Registering to vote only requires entries on a form, and a signature with address. It is never verified. It is not shown legally to be happening, because there is absolutely zero enforcement. I could go on and on about these things, but even if I take the time to give valid links, you still wouldn't believe me. This is an issue we are fighting here, and making some progress by shaming the officials. It looks like drivers licenses will require proof of citizenship or legal residency soon, but the Oregon legislature is fighting the idea.

[Wild Cobra]

Well, my understanding of the terms:

Hispanic; belongs to Spain. Most people in the central or south America's I understand see this term as derogatory.

Latino; Of Latin. I understand this to be the more correct term to describe people south of the border, i.e. Latin America.

Chicano; Of Mexico. This is a correct way to define Mexicans. Only those of Mexico. I'm not sure, but I think it has become to be thought of as a derogatory term.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Well, my understanding of the terms:

Hispanic; belongs to Spain. Most people in the central or south America's I understand see this term as derogatory.

Latino; Of Latin. I understand this to be the more correct term to describe people south of the border, i.e. Latin America.

Chicano; Of Mexico. This is a correct way to define Mexicans. Only those of Mexico. I'm not sure, but I think it has become to be thought of as a derogatory term.

I believe the term Chicano is actually used for those Americans with Mexican ancestry (Mexican-Americans). A Chicano can be a Latino too.

Latino is a cultural and linguistic definition. On the other hand, Chicano is a demographical and geographical one.

Hispanic...not sure, I think it's only used in the USA, not in countries where Spanish is the official language.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Figured this thread is as fucked as any, so I'll interject with a question...

Is Spanish like French in that the dialects spoken can almost be different languages?

For example...Smeagol resides in Argentina, most Spanish speaking peeps in America come from Mexico....any difference?

No. Spanish can be understood between the different populations of Spanish speaking countries, because they aren't dialects, but slangs. For people with a good level of education, that wall can be broken even more easily. There are plenty of Mexican TV shows in the Argentinian TV and viceversa.

However, there are some dialects derived from Spanish which are actually harder to understand (eg. Chavacano in the Philippines, Spanglish in the US-Mexican border).

But back to the Spanish language, most speakers with a relatively good level of education can understand each other. In this sense, it's no different than English. Take 2 uneducated persons, one from Louisiana, another one from Manchester and try to make them interact. They'll probably wouldn't understand each other at all.

[Kori Ellis]

Well, my understanding of the terms:

Hispanic; belongs to Spain. Most people in the central or south America's I understand see this term as derogatory.

Latino; Of Latin. I understand this to be the more correct term to describe people south of the border, i.e. Latin America.

Chicano; Of Mexico. This is a correct way to define Mexicans. Only those of Mexico. I'm not sure, but I think it has become to be thought of as a derogatory term.

This is my understanding:

Latino - Person who lives in U.S. who is of Latin American birth or descent.
Hispanic - Person of Spanish-speaking descent (doesn't matter where they live or where they were born as long as their heritage is from a Spanish-speaking place)
Chicano - Person who was born in the U.S. but who is of Mexican descent. (Mexicans born in Mexico aren't chicanos.)

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

if you are hispanic your origin is spain. if you latino is your orgin based in italy?....ergo, are italians latino?

Like I said in my other post, Hispanic is an Anglo word. Not sure what it meant to define.

If you are Latino, it means that you speak one of the languages descended from the Latin language, spoken during the times of the Roman Empire: Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese and Romanian. There is also controversy whether Catalan, Galician, Occitan, Sicilian and others are dialects or completely different languages.

[smeagol]

If you are Latino, it means that you speak one of the languages descended from the Latin language, spoken during the times of the Roman Empire: Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese and Romanian. There is also controversy whether Catalan, Galician, Occitan, Sicilian and others are dialects or completely different languages.

Agreed, but not everybody sees it that way.

Many people see Latino as "from Latin America and speaks Spanish"

[Kriz-Maxima]

Latin

somebody speaking a Romance language: somebody who speaks any of the languages derived from Latin, especially somebody living in Latin America or southern Europe


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[xrayzebra]

So many experts, so much BS. This thread kinda reminds me
of the global warming threads. Except no one said
"consensus of opinion" yet.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

So many experts, so much BS. This thread kinda reminds me
of the global warming threads. Except no one said
"consensus of opinion" yet.

Can you enlighten us, please? Share your mighty wisdom with us, oh poor bastards.

[JoeChalupa]

So many experts, so much BS. This thread kinda reminds me
of the global warming threads. Except no one said
"consensus of opinion" yet.

More BS. :lol