View Full Version : Trade Dwight Howard for Tim Duncan?
Hypothetical...based on talent and where they are in their careers right now (ie, ignore money)...
Would you be mad if the Spurs traded Duncan for Howard???
Ghost Writer
02-18-2008, 12:55 PM
Hi, Evan.
Someone posted this exact same thing about 3 weeks ago.
You like dunks, huh?
clubalien
02-18-2008, 12:55 PM
Only player right now i would trade tim for is David Robinson
Spurminator
02-18-2008, 12:56 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85835
Considering how the West is changing I am still curious.
MaNuMaNiAc
02-18-2008, 01:01 PM
I'd be pissed, but mainly because I think Tim has earned the right to retire as a Spur. Nothing against Howard, I think the kid is a beast, but Tim has done far too much for this team for him to be traded. As far as I'm concerned Tim and trade are mutually exclusive.
LEONARD
02-18-2008, 01:03 PM
I can't see how they could turn down Superman...I mean, really...it's Superman...
Man of Steel
02-18-2008, 01:24 PM
I would picket the AT&T Center.
spursfan09
02-18-2008, 01:37 PM
No because Tim will turn it on during the playoffs like he always does. Sorry if he disappointed you by not turning it on at the All Star game.
Spuradicator
02-18-2008, 01:38 PM
Are you fucking kidding me?
clubalien
02-18-2008, 01:40 PM
Tim did win a allstar competition though :D
but he did need David too ;/
ancestron
02-18-2008, 01:40 PM
no way. It's freakin Tim Duncan man. I dont care if its for Michael Jordan reincarnated in the body of Wilt Chamberlain. no no no no no.
Are you fucking kidding me?
No.
I am really curious
Slo spurs fan
02-18-2008, 01:42 PM
I'd be pissed, but mainly because I think Tim has earned the right to retire as a Spur. Nothing against Howard, I think the kid is a beast, but Tim has done far too much for this team for him to be traded. As far as I'm concerned Tim and trade are mutually exclusive.
:clap
lurker
02-18-2008, 01:44 PM
Tim Duncan > Dwight Howard
Spurminator
02-18-2008, 01:47 PM
People act like intangibles grow on trees.
People act like intangibles grow on trees.
But you're extending the Spurs future with such a trade.
Trainwreck2100
02-18-2008, 01:50 PM
People act like intangibles grow on trees.
They do, I have an intagible tree in my backyard
Spurminator
02-18-2008, 01:53 PM
What is the future we're extending? Are we sacrificing one or two more Titles in order to be a long-term Playoff contender? Why do that?
I love watching Howard play and I think he has all of the talent in the world, but he hasn't done anything yet that shows me he's a WINNER like Duncan. His Basketball IQ still has a lot of room to grow.
ChumpDumper
02-18-2008, 01:54 PM
I would be mad.
/thread
What is the future we're extending? Are we sacrificing one or two more Titles in order to be a long-term Playoff contender? Why do that?
You make it seem like more titles are a lock.
You just never know.
clubalien
02-18-2008, 01:56 PM
What is the future we're extending? Are we sacrificing one or two more Titles in order to be a long-term Playoff contender? Why do that?
I love watching Howard play and I think he has all of the talent in the world, but he hasn't done anything yet that shows me he's a WINNER like Duncan. His Basketball IQ still has a lot of room to grow.
Maybe if he was mentored by a current Spurs organization member that had a game like him that has won rings.
David thought Tim how to be a champion, he can do the same for superman.
Spurminator
02-18-2008, 01:56 PM
No you don't, but I'd prefer to take my chances with someone who has a proven track record.
Holt's Cat
02-18-2008, 02:00 PM
What is the future we're extending? Are we sacrificing one or two more Titles in order to be a long-term Playoff contender? Why do that?
I love watching Howard play and I think he has all of the talent in the world, but he hasn't done anything yet that shows me he's a WINNER like Duncan. His Basketball IQ still has a lot of room to grow.
The Spurs have Tim Duncan for 5 more postseasons. I'd rather stick with a proven championship formula than throw it away on promise.
O-Factor
02-18-2008, 02:01 PM
This topic shouldn't even be in the realm of conventional conversation for Spurs fans.
BonnerDynasty
02-18-2008, 02:01 PM
I wouldn't even trade him for the second coming of Jordan.
If his foot started acting up again and he had to take a little rest however :hat
I wouldn't even trade him for the second coming of Jordan.
:rolleyes :drunk
spursfan09
02-18-2008, 02:14 PM
:rolleyes :drunk
What? Tim has brought us 4 so far. He just needs 2 more to catch up. He ain't retiring anytime soon, so he could even pass him up. Is it really that homer for a fan to say we wouldn't give up Tim for the second coming of MJ?
Spuradicator
02-18-2008, 02:20 PM
No.
I am really curious
Why, because he can dunk REALLY REALLY well??? Thats why everyone is talking about him now is it now. That puts him in Tim Duncan's league?
Because Howard can dunk really well, that:
Equates the mastery of defense in the paint that Tim displays.
Equates how cerebral he is on the offensive end of the floor.
Equates how Tim makes his teammates better.
Equates every other nuraunce, intagibles and technical aspects of the game that Tim
possesses, and that has enabled him to be a 4 time champion?
Make no mistake, I think Howard is great young player, but he is in no way in Tim Duncan's class.
clubalien
02-18-2008, 02:21 PM
What? Tim has brought us 4 so far. He just needs 2 more to catch up. He ain't retiring anytime soon, so he could even pass him up. Is it really that homer for a fan to say we wouldn't give up Tim for the second coming of MJ?
I guess it depends how you define secound coming of MJ
is that lebron, Kobe, or grant hill
of the above I wouldn't trade tim for anyone of them.
Is it really that homer for a fan to say we wouldn't give up Tim for the second coming of MJ?
Homer? Where did I say that? :rolleyes :drunk
but he is in no way in Tim Duncan's class.
...yet?
BonnerDynasty
02-18-2008, 07:06 PM
:rolleyes :drunk
Pathetic how Mavs fans and everyone else outside of S.A. Spurs can't comprehend this isnt' it?
David, and now Tim, are the Spurs. I'd rather see Tim end his career in S.A. (without anymore rings) than for us to use him and trade him away just to become like every other shitbag team in the NBA.
smeagol
02-18-2008, 07:17 PM
People act like intangibles grow on trees.
No shit.
Just like in the Iggy/Dalembert for Manu/Elson.
GrandeDavid
02-18-2008, 07:22 PM
I think Orlando would scoff at that trade. No way they'd make that. Howard isn't even in his prime while Duncan is approaching the end of his in a couple, perhaps few years. I know Tim is one of the greatest players ever and I'd take Duncan anyday over Howard for an entire career, obviously.
dg7md
02-18-2008, 07:54 PM
Magic would be stupid to make this trade, and wouldn't trade him for anybody (even LeBron).
anakha
02-18-2008, 07:55 PM
Well, there is one benefit from doing this trade...
SpursDynasty would have a coronary. :lol
Mister Sinister
02-18-2008, 09:49 PM
I can't see how they could turn down Superman...I mean, really...it's Superman...
Are you dense? Are you retarded or something? Who the hell do you think we have? We got the Goddamn Batman!
The Franchise
02-18-2008, 10:05 PM
As a fan it's easy to say no I wouldn't trade him, but think of it from a GMs perspective. In two or three more years hell yea!!!! Ask yourself this question dominant post presence for ten more years or two more years? Tim is well into his prime and his best basketball is probably behind him. Dwight is in the infant stages of his career and is already showing signs of being something special. By keeping Tim in that scenario you are probably destroying your long term sucess. From a loyalty standpoint it hurts to even think it, but from an objective view you are only looking out for the long term fortunes of the Spurs.
spursfan09
02-18-2008, 11:05 PM
Homer? Where did I say that? :rolleyes :drunk
I didn't say you said "homer". You were rolling your eyes at the notion of a fan saying they wouldn't trade him for the second coming of Jordan. Now I'm asking you, if you think that's a homer thing to say.
As a fan it's easy to say no I wouldn't trade him, but think of it from a GMs perspective. In two or three more years hell yea!!!! Ask yourself this question dominant post presence for ten more years or two more years? Tim is well into his prime and his best basketball is probably behind him. Dwight is in the infant stages of his career and is already showing signs of being something special. By keeping Tim in that scenario you are probably destroying your long term sucess. From a loyalty standpoint it hurts to even think it, but from an objective view you are only looking out for the long term fortunes of the Spurs.
Kind of like how the rockets treated Hakeem at the end of his career after he alleviated choke city status from houston
m33p0
02-19-2008, 07:29 AM
Kind of like how the rockets treated Hakeem at the end of his career after he alleviated choke city status from houston
or ewing being traded by knicks. trading away the team's franchise player, especially of duncan's stature, can be damaging on the fans' psyche. you have to take the moral highground on this even though its a business. allowing duncan to play out the rest of his career as a spur is one way to say "thank you, timmy." and as a spurs fan, i have alot to be thankful to tim duncan.
besides, duncan has a great chance of retiring a champion. he already laid the groundwork for that when he signed his extension with lesser money. why would you trade him then with that possibility?
Now I'm asking you, if you think that's a homer thing to say.
Do you?
LEONARD
02-20-2008, 11:11 AM
LOLOLOLOL both of the Dallas Fan MMA butt buddies created the exact same thread. I'm sure they grapple each other's bodies together in more places than just the octagon.
It's called a bit...
and look how many BIT on the bit even though it was busted from reply #1... :lol
txstr1986
02-20-2008, 11:16 AM
Do you?
Damn you're an idiot.
41times
02-20-2008, 12:11 PM
People tend to over value their home team players. Duncan is great. One of the greatest. But if you are talking about a trade you have to consider the statistical facts:
Duncan (31.8 years old)
19.6 ppg
11.5 rpg
3.2 apg
0.0 spg
1.9 bpg
.507 fg
.701 ft
34.7 mpg
Howard (22.2 years old)
21.4 ppg
14.5 rpg
1.4 apg
1.0 spg
2.5 bpg
.596 fg
.595 ft
38.6 mpg
I know the thought of trading the greatest player in Spurs history seems Sacraligious but if you made this trade after this season, you could potentially win 3 or 4 more titles over the next 8 years with Parker and Ginobli being in their prime.
Spurminator
02-20-2008, 12:14 PM
Oh, we're just talking about Fantasy Basketball? I completely misunderstood, I thought you guys were actually advocating this trade in real life.
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