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MoSpur
02-20-2008, 11:35 AM
Jason Kapono is a younger and healthier than Barry. He is the only player I'd like the Spurs to go after if they let Barry go. Barry was shooting lights out before the calf injuries. I know getting a big like Kurt Thomas would require Elson and Barry for salaries to match. I don't like that idea very much because we need someone who can hit the three consistently. Kapono would give you that. His contract is the only thing that I don't like, but his contract matches Barry's contract.

This is from Yahoo sports.

With an understanding that they’ll need to re-sign restricted free agent guard Jose Calderon and Carlos Delfino this summer, the Raptors are fielding offers for Jason Kapono. It’s unlikely they’ll get many considering the three years and nearly $19 million left on Kapono’s contract.

Holt's Cat
02-20-2008, 11:36 AM
His deal lasts past 2010, so probably not.

ancestron
02-20-2008, 11:38 AM
First imaginary trade I've read about on here that actually makes some sense.

Ryvin1
02-20-2008, 11:44 AM
this is taking the lead on my favorite trade that won't happen now :)

MoSpur
02-20-2008, 11:44 AM
He's pretty much a younger Barry. He doesn't defend well just like Barry. I think Barry handles the ball better though. Kapono flourished with Shaq. Shaq drew double teams and kicked it out to Kapono and he would nail the three. Tim can do that. He would prevent teams from double teaming Tim.

Holt's Cat
02-20-2008, 11:46 AM
If it was a 2 year commitment past this year, sure. 3 feels too long and could change some other plans.

hater
02-20-2008, 11:47 AM
He's pretty much a younger Barry.

no way. Barry could drive into the basket and is a great passer.

Barry can run an offense successfully. Kapono cannot

MoSpur
02-20-2008, 11:51 AM
no way. Barry could drive into the basket and is a great passer.

Barry can run an offense successfully. Kapono cannot

Well that's why I said he handles the ball better than Kapono.

Indazone
02-20-2008, 11:58 AM
Spurs need to upgrade their frontline for better players than Oberto and Elson. Aside from that, you got All Star calibur players in Parker, Ginobili, and Duncan. Stoudamire is servicable.

MoSpur
02-20-2008, 12:04 PM
Spurs need to upgrade their frontline for better players than Oberto and Elson. Aside from that, you got All Star calibur players in Parker, Ginobili, and Duncan. Stoudamire is servicable.

Agreed. I think the Spurs need someone in the post to help Duncan out on defense, but if Barry isn't going to comeback from the injury or if he does, but isn't as good as he was playing, then trading for a younger Barry would not be a bad idea.

smeagol
02-20-2008, 12:20 PM
First imaginary trade I've read about on here that actually makes some sense.

Really? Why?

Are we in desperate need of three point shooters?

MarCowMar
02-20-2008, 12:31 PM
There is pretty much no situation in which I'd take Kapono over Barry. Barry shoots just as well, handles the ball better, has a higher bball IQ, moves better without the ball, passes better, can play backup PG, and has a cheaper contract.

Kapono is younger and healthier, but unless the trainers expect Barry to be unavailable for the playoffs I expect we will keep him.

rascal
02-20-2008, 12:34 PM
No way. Just what the spurs need another perimeter player just standing around the 3 point line. Enough of that crap. Lets get some playmakers who can create some offense by taking it to the rim.

ancestron
02-20-2008, 12:54 PM
Really? Why?

Are we in desperate need of three point shooters?

No. Obviously the spurs are not in dire need of more 3 point shooters. But Kapono isn't just another three point shooter, he's one of the best in the league, and with Tim Duncan, 3 point shooters on the Spurs have more than their fair share of good looks.
Plus he is younger. It has to be decided if Barry's ball handling, passing, and point-guard abilities would be worth the trade off for a better, younger 3 point specialist. With the addidition of Stoudamire, it seems there are more than enough capable ball handlers on the team now, though.

This just sounds like a more realistic trade idea than "Trade Manu for Kobe!" or the "Trade Duncan for Dwight Howard!" garbage. Thats all I meant.

timvp
02-20-2008, 12:56 PM
ESPN Trade Machine has Kapono only having two more years on his contract. Everything else I've seen has him with three years left on his contract, but ESPN is usually right in these situations.

If Kapono has only two more years, he'd make sense for the Spurs. He's overpaid but he can shoot and his contract would be ending at the right time. The Raptors would likely let him go for just an expiring contract.

Barry for Kapono makes sense depending on Kapono's contract. But flipping a great shooter who's career might be over for another great shooter who is a decade younger is pretty much a no-brainer. Kapono doesn't do everything Barry can do but he's arguably an even better shooter.

Holt's Cat
02-20-2008, 12:57 PM
The Spurs have Finley and Barry as free agents this summer and I don't think one of those will be back, if not both. There will be some holes to fill going forward. Seeing as how the Spurs have been linked to interest in Korver and Childress they are clearly taking a look at what swingmen are available.

MoSpur
02-20-2008, 01:00 PM
Wasn't his deal a four-year deal worth around $24-25 million? If so, after this season he will have three left. Its kind of long and the Spurs might not want that.

Holt's Cat
02-20-2008, 01:02 PM
Wasn't his deal a four-year deal worth around $24-25 million? If so, after this season he will have three left. Its kind of long and the Spurs might not want that.


Maybe there's an option on that final year. It'd have to be a team option to see the Spurs being interested.

Ghost Writer
02-20-2008, 01:08 PM
I would not commit to Kapono's contract, because all he does is shoot 3s.

We can find our usual veteran minimum player to be a 3-point specialist.

Nawmeen?

timvp
02-20-2008, 01:10 PM
Maybe there's an option on that final year.Yeah, I think there's a possibility of that. If that is indeed the case, Kapono would be a likely trade target.

MoSpur
02-20-2008, 01:14 PM
Everything I read is that he has a four-year deal with no option.

tmtcsc
02-20-2008, 01:43 PM
I prefer players over specialists.

41times
02-20-2008, 03:42 PM
He has this year and 3 more left on his deal according to HoopsHype.com
Great outside shooter but limited ball handling skills.



Jason Kapono
$5,356,000 $5,784,480 $6,212,960 $6,641,440

Holt's Cat
02-20-2008, 03:46 PM
Specialists have their place in the game.

ChumpDumper
02-20-2008, 03:48 PM
If his deal didn't mess with the latest cap scheme, or if he could do even one more thing on the court in addition to shooting I would do it.

I also need ploto's take before doing anything.

Ghost Writer
02-20-2008, 03:48 PM
Specialists have their place in the game.
Yes, but we can get them on the cheap.

There's a long line of past Spurs "three-point specialists".

I'm not worried about that.

MoSpur
02-20-2008, 03:49 PM
See Steve Kerr

urunobili
02-20-2008, 05:36 PM
no way. Barry could drive into the basket and is a great passer.

Barry can run an offense successfully. Kapono cannot
well.. what Barry has brought to the table lately (shoot threes) makes me think that actually Kapono would fit great

wildbill2u
02-20-2008, 05:44 PM
Barry will be gone at the end of this season anyway unless he's willing to take a serious pay cut to stay in the game. I hate to see him go. He's been an asset on the court and in the locker room and in the community.

Maybe Kappono is young enough to learn something about the game besides 3pt shooting.

dg7md
02-20-2008, 06:09 PM
Kapono is money.

Holt's Cat
02-20-2008, 06:10 PM
Yes, but we can get them on the cheap.

There's a long line of past Spurs "three-point specialists".

I'm not worried about that.


Who is out there this summer?

JUUOT
02-20-2008, 06:19 PM
Kapono is the best shooter i have seen play. His hands and body are always ready for a shot. With duncan - manu - tp this guy is money!
He has an amazing mechanic so even if he has better games than other he is fairly consistent. One of the 2 main problem with him is that he can not create his own shot, but thta is not a problem in the spurs system. WHich brings us to the fundamental problem: defense
The guy looks like he tries but i have to admit he sucks on D. In toronto he is behind parker, moon, delfino. He enters the game for 15 minutes to bring instant offense off the bench.
I can see him being the 5th wing sharing minutes with another vets for second wing off the bench.
Not sure if we have the cap room, but with udoka, ian, tiago, all being fairly cheap, we might