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xtremesteven33
02-23-2008, 09:00 AM
Who do you think deserves it?

and

Who do you think wins it?

my opinion:

Deserves it: Chris Paul
Will Win it: Kobe Bryant

Mark in Austin
02-23-2008, 09:40 AM
LeBron has done more with less than anybody else this year. I think he'll get serious consideration. I wouldn't mind if Paul or Bryant won though.

ThomasGranger
02-23-2008, 09:44 AM
Deserves it: Chris Paul
Will Win it: Kobe Bryant

+1

Kobe will get bonus points for playing with a bad finger.

Rummpd
02-23-2008, 09:47 AM
Ginobili!

Deserves if Spurs win West but won't get. If Garnett or Kobe get it it will be undeserved. Can live with Paul but James has to get it.

1Parker1
02-23-2008, 09:49 AM
LeBron has done more with less than anybody else this year. I think he'll get serious consideration. I wouldn't mind if Paul or Bryant won though.


it's the EAST, nuff said.

CP3 has managed to give his team the best record in th WEST. Not only that, he's made his teamates significantly better. U think West would have been an all star player if he played on a team w/o Paul? And Peja had flew off the face of the earth until this season.

Lebron and Kobe are amazing individual talents, but Cp3 is more valuable to his team because he makes them all a lot better...not just himself.

It's funny because everyone keeps saying the MVP race is so close this year, where I think Chris Paul is the runaway choice.

Unfortunately, Kobe will probably get it.

TDMVPDPOY
02-23-2008, 10:42 AM
cp3
lebron
kobe

BonnerDynasty
02-23-2008, 10:53 AM
Cp3
Lebron
Bonner

WalterBenitez
02-23-2008, 10:56 AM
Lbj

BlackSwordsMan
02-23-2008, 11:21 AM
Manu Ginobili

MavDynasty
02-23-2008, 11:30 AM
Dirk Nowitzki or Kidd

adidas11
02-23-2008, 11:42 AM
LBJ
Chris Paul
Kobe

In that order.

polandprzem
02-23-2008, 11:42 AM
:wrongf

Spurs Dynasty 21
02-23-2008, 11:45 AM
Cp3

baseline bum
02-23-2008, 11:50 AM
LeBron easily
KG probably

Jimcs50
02-23-2008, 11:58 AM
way too early to think about this....are you that bored????

Come on....really.

Warlord23
02-23-2008, 12:29 PM
LeBron.

30/8/7.5 hasn't been seen since MJ and the Big O. He leads PER by a wide margin. Leads in 4th quarter points. Much improved defense. He convincingly outplayed Kobe at both ends of the floor in their head-to-head games.

The Cavs haven't won a single game without LBJ in the lineup. With Lebron the Cavs' winning % is an impressive 63%. They have a winning record vs the West. They've played most of their games without Varejao and Pavlovic. Now Gibson is down.

Tough to argue those facts. Specially when KG plays with Pierce/Allen, and the Celts did pretty well when KG went down. Paul is a more serious MVP candidate than Kobe because his team is #1 in the West, and he is #2 in PER (Kobe is #7).

porscha
02-23-2008, 12:30 PM
Manu Ginobili

resistanze
02-23-2008, 12:36 PM
1) LeBron
2) CP3
3) The rest

JamStone
02-23-2008, 12:36 PM
The Cavs probably won't win 50 games and most likely won't have one of the top 2 records in the East. That will greatly hurt his chances. His numbers are ridiculous though.

In terms of deserving:

1. Chris Paul
2. LeBron James
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Dwight Howard

In that order. But, I can foresee whichever player's team ends up with a better record between Paul and Kobe actually ending up being the one winning it.

djohn14
02-23-2008, 12:43 PM
It's LeBron 4 sure. He's has the most PPG with 31 and 8 rebounds and 7 assists. The MVP stood for most valuable player last time I checked and the Cavs are 0-6 without him. I would not be mad at all if Chris Paul won it though. He is remarkable in his own right. Kobe has a chance, but I think them getting Gasol might hurt his chance...at least I hope so. KG is playing great...no doubt...but he also has Peirce and Allen...and that cant hurt.

JMarkJohns
02-23-2008, 01:14 PM
Who do you think deserves it?

and

Who do you think wins it?

my opinion:

Deserves it: Chris Paul
Will Win it: Kobe Bryant

I agree. Especially if the Celtics keep up their recent .500 ball. I think Paul or Kobe are deserving, but feel Paul, at such a young age, has really done an incredible job of leading a team to the best record in the brutal west after not even making the playoffs last year. Kobe's done phenominal, but I've been a bit more impressed with Paul.

Dex
02-23-2008, 01:21 PM
Me.

The Truth #6
02-23-2008, 01:51 PM
CP3 isn't getting anywhere near that award. Lebron, KG, and Kobe will be in the mix based on the media's tendencies.

whottt
02-23-2008, 02:15 PM
Chris Paul...

ShoogarBear
02-23-2008, 02:34 PM
Unfortunately, Kobe will probably get it.*faints*

ShoogarBear
02-23-2008, 02:36 PM
CP3 will have accomplished the most if the Hornets finish with a top-3 record in the West.

LeBron will have stats that speak for themselves.

I'd have no problem with either one of them.

mathbzh
02-25-2008, 03:32 AM
I know I am a blind homer but... GINOBILI

dg7md
02-25-2008, 03:35 AM
LBJ
Chris Paul
Kobe

In that order.

Yeah, precisely.

Howard after that, then Garnett.

Taijihu
02-25-2008, 03:40 AM
Paul deserves that, however kobe will win it.
kg? I'd prefer to timmy.

Taijihu
02-25-2008, 03:40 AM
Paul deserves that, however kobe will win it.
kg? I'd prefer to timmy.

whottt
02-25-2008, 03:44 AM
Paul is putting up 20 points and 10 assists per game...that doesn't happen very often. I think KJ might have done it once...Magic...maybe Nate Archibald before that...it hasn't been done very often.


And he runs his team. Runs it...completely.

He's definitely the MVP.


It won't be a travesty if LeBron wins it, but I think Paul truly deserves the award. He's an awesome player.

mikejones99
02-25-2008, 03:46 AM
Manu is leading but kobe, lebron, duncan, kg, paul, boozer n yao are still close

dg7md
02-25-2008, 03:46 AM
Paul deserves that, however kobe will win it.
kg? I'd prefer to timmy.

We'd all prefer Duncan over Garnett for MVP awards but between the two there is not a contest for Garnett taking it over Duncan.

... but Finals MVP? :smokin

ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
02-25-2008, 03:57 AM
Kobe will get it. He's due.
Even though Pau Gasol and Bynum's emergence are more responsible for the Lakers success.

I wouldn't mind Garnett getting one though.

Tradition
02-25-2008, 04:15 AM
Kobe with the way he has grown this year as a leader. His trust in his teamates and finally having the right pieces around him to do it has really made his teamates believe in themselves. It is a thing of beauty.

genomefreak13
02-25-2008, 04:15 AM
Manu Ginobili - He's averaging more than 31 pts off the bench and now increased it while playing as a starter with the Spurs. If the spurs end up somewhere between no. 2 and 3 in the western conference , I think it's fair that our Manu be given a chance to be on that short list.

Considering however the bureacrazy in the NBA, I probably think that either Paul of Bryant will wind up the winner.

alamo50
02-25-2008, 05:11 AM
The Big Ticket.

Allanon
02-25-2008, 05:11 AM
Kobe is a lock to win it because:

1) 55-60 win season and possible #1 seed in the crazy hard West
2) Every player was having a career season even before Pau showed up
3) Willing to have permanent hand/broken finger damage just to lead his team into the Playoffs
4) At the same time Lebron sat out a bunch of games because of a sprained hand
5) He's long overdue

Rummpd
02-25-2008, 05:18 AM
LeBron no discussion needed. Manu has to be in hunt for 2nd place if system was not based on soley popularity.

hsxvvd
02-25-2008, 05:25 AM
I guess this means the trade deadline has passed.

bobbyjoe
02-25-2008, 05:44 AM
1)Kobe
2)Lebron
3)CP3
4)KG

WalterBenitez
02-25-2008, 05:44 AM
Manu Ginobili - He's averaging more than 31 pts off the bench and now increased it while playing as a starter with the Spurs. If the spurs end up somewhere between no. 2 and 3 in the western conference , I think it's fair that our Manu be given a chance to be on that short list.

Considering however the bureacrazy in the NBA, I probably think that either Paul of Bryant will wind up the winner.

It is about marketing, certainly Manu's nose is less markeatable than Steve Nash' look and Dirk's tongue ... I still going with LBJ ... tennis shoes are importante, Yao is another ption chinese people are billions ... the real one ...

LBJ, KB ...

mathbzh
02-25-2008, 05:45 AM
LeBron no discussion needed. Manu has to be in hunt for 2nd place if system was not based on soley popularity.

Lebron is having a great individual season. But his teal is #4 in the east and they have the 13th record in the league. If the MVP is still the best player in the best team or at least in a top 3 team. There is no way he receives it... or someone will have to explain Kobe why he didn't received the MVP in his 81 pts year.

As the standings are, the MVP should play in Boston, Detroit, LA, San Antonio or NO.
The true candidate are KG (or Pierce), Billups (or Hamilton), Kobe, Ginobili, Duncan, Paul.
The debate should be between Kobe and Paul, I vote for Paul but to be honnest Kobe really deserves it.


One more thing, GINOBILI is my MVP

kace
02-25-2008, 07:46 AM
if all the contenders continue to play at their present level :


It will be Lebron James unless :

- the lakers are the n°1 in the west at the end of the season (in this case, it will be Kobe)

- the cavs fall deep in the east (it also will be Kobe)

Cherry
02-25-2008, 10:59 AM
Kobe or LeBron will win the MVP this year





Manu is my MVP because:


1) He don't want/need popularity. He know who he is.

2) Unselfish, intelligent and competitive as hell.

3) He knows what the team need from him (coming of the bench or starting)

4) He's an ANTI-statistics player: he hates that and don't care about how many points - rebounds - steals - 3pts or career highs he made.

5) Mmm... Manu looks happy without a MVP :lol

gmartin02
02-25-2008, 11:36 AM
Paul is putting up 20 points and 10 assists per game...that doesn't happen very often. I think KJ might have done it once...Magic...maybe Nate Archibald before that...it hasn't been done very often.

And he runs his team. Runs it...completely.

He's definitely the MVP.

It won't be a travesty if LeBron wins it, but I think Paul truly deserves the award. He's an awesome player.

CP has played really great, but the the Hornets have played the 2nd easiest schedule in the Western Conference up to this point (only Phoenix has had an easier schedule in the west). The Lakers have played the toughest schedule up to this point of any of the top 9 Western Conference teams. And LBJ plays in the East (numbers get inflated in the Least).

I think 1) Kobe or 2) Lebron deserve (but give all the teams 20 more games and then we will see - maybe CP will be "the man" and mow over the rest of the West)

NRHector
02-25-2008, 11:45 AM
Ginobili!

Deserves if Spurs win West but won't get. If Garnett or Kobe get it it will be undeserved. Can live with Paul but James has to get it.
I agree with you if koby and garnett get it is because of the hype of the media like always

Medvedenko
02-25-2008, 12:17 PM
I agree with you if koby and garnett get it is because of the hype of the media like always

Yeah, because Kobe's game is all about hype.....please. If Lebron's team plays better, he'll get it because of the crazy stats. However if the Lakers win close to 60 games, than Kobe's a lock.

We all know it's not all about Stats....Kobe averaged 36, 6 and 5 2 years ago and finished 3rd in voting. His team actually won 45 games and made it to the playoffs. Still wasn't enough.

Rummpd
02-25-2008, 12:36 PM
Lets get this straight Duncan out-rebounding Garnett by a ton, and scoring about the same on a team that was missing key pieces longer.

Garnett gets this award it is a shame. He could not even get a team to sniff the playoffs then gets with two stars and is carried again - just like his MVP year when Cassell won more games with clutch shots.

Garnett is not and should not ever be a MVP!

debo
02-25-2008, 01:23 PM
deserves it- LeBron, if you switched him with kobe, CP3, Nash, Dirk, KG, etc. the cavs wouldn't even come close to the current level of succes

will win it- Kobe, because he's good, really good. pisses me off.........

debo
02-25-2008, 01:29 PM
4) At the same time Lebron sat out a bunch of games because of a sprained hand
Which is smart. the team is nothing without him (0-8, i think) if he ended up making the injury worse by playing through it the cavs would probably miss the playoffs.

MoSpur
02-25-2008, 01:45 PM
it's the EAST, nuff said.

CP3 has managed to give his team the best record in th WEST. Not only that, he's made his teamates significantly better. U think West would have been an all star player if he played on a team w/o Paul? And Peja had flew off the face of the earth until this season.

Lebron and Kobe are amazing individual talents, but Cp3 is more valuable to his team because he makes them all a lot better...not just himself.

It's funny because everyone keeps saying the MVP race is so close this year, where I think Chris Paul is the runaway choice.

Unfortunately, Kobe will probably get it.

Couldn't agree more. Kobe is a good pick too though. I don't know if he makes everyone him better, but he does make it easy for others on that team because of all the attention he demands. His defense has been awesome this year as well. It always gets overlooked because of his offensive talent. However, CP3 should get it, but I doubt he will

rAm
02-25-2008, 01:47 PM
I don't think KG even deserves a mention. With PP and Ray Allen on the team, how do you make a case for MVP?

MoSpur
02-25-2008, 02:13 PM
KG is not going to win it again.

Galileo
02-25-2008, 03:09 PM
Tim Duncan will win the MVP, if the following items occur:

1) Duncan leads Spurs to # 1 seed in West.

2) Duncan averages over 20 points per game.

3) Duncan leads Spurs in scoring.

4) Duncan averages over 10 rebounds per game.

Right now, the Spurs are tied for best in the West in the loss column. They are 5 games behind Boston in the loss column and 3 games behind Detroit in the loss column.

Duncan is 11 points short of averaging 20 per game, and his production has been up. One game of 31 points gets him there.

Duncan is a lock to average 10 rebounds, he has 579 rebounds in 50 games, 79 over.

Ginobili recently passed Tim up in scoring. If Tim averaged 21 points in the remaining 28 games, and Ginobili averages 19 points, Tim will catch him. With Parker back, that is likely.

If Duncan is only 2nd in scoring for the Spurs, then he will still win the MVP, if he breaks 20 ppg and the Spurs have the best record in the NBA.

Spurs rock
02-25-2008, 04:32 PM
D-Wade

Medvedenko
02-25-2008, 04:34 PM
D-Wade

05/06 hype forum

Spurs rock
02-25-2008, 07:25 PM
05/06 hype forum

If it wasn't for D-Wade the Heat would prolly be 5-48 right now.

Allanon
02-25-2008, 07:45 PM
Which is smart. the team is nothing without him (0-8, i think) if he ended up making the injury worse by playing through it the cavs would probably miss the playoffs.

I'm not saying he should have not sat out. But this is the difference between Kobe and LeBron. Kobe is not willing to let his team lose those 8 games while Lebron is. Even the guys on TNT were laughing at Lebron for sitting out and letting his team get beaten up with a mild sprain....something along the lines of "Man up, your team needs you"

This alone makes LeBron lose in the MVP race to Kobe.

CP3 could win if his team ends up ahead of the Lakers but I see Hornets sliding down to 7-8 seed and that won't get him an MVP.

Timmy is pacing himself through the season this year, he's not close in the MVP race.

m33p0
02-25-2008, 08:07 PM
Chris Paul.

pre-trade lineups, lakers has a better lineup than the hornets and yet paul led his team to the top spot. he also made an all-star out of his teammates who otherwise wouldn't even be considered without him.

hopefully, the media voters wouldn't forget timmy or manu this time. :makemyday

Galileo
02-25-2008, 08:21 PM
I'm not saying he should have not sat out. But this is the difference between Kobe and LeBron. Kobe is not willing to let his team lose those 8 games while Lebron is. Even the guys on TNT were laughing at Lebron for sitting out and letting his team get beaten up with a mild sprain....something along the lines of "Man up, your team needs you"

This alone makes LeBron lose in the MVP race to Kobe.

CP3 could win if his team ends up ahead of the Lakers but I see Hornets sliding down to 7-8 seed and that won't get him an MVP.

Timmy is pacing himself through the season this year, he's not close in the MVP race.

Tim is near the league lead in efficiency per 48 minutes, He's basically to co-leading scorer on his team, and he more than doubles, if not triples his nearest teammate in rebounding and blocks.

Plus his team is the # 2 seed in the West as i write this.

How could anyone be more valuable than that?

He's also on a rebounding tear since he got back from his injury.

duncan228
02-25-2008, 08:35 PM
Duncan's League MVP days are behind him.

I'm hoping to see him raise another Finals MVP.

Spurminator
02-26-2008, 12:48 PM
CUBES’ MVPs: We asked Mavs owner Mark Cuban for his so-far NBA MVP. With no hesitation, he fired back: “Manu, Chris Paul. … and then Kobe.’’

http://www.dallasbasketball.com/home_display.php

spursfan09
02-26-2008, 12:51 PM
If Manu won the MVP it would show the NBA how screwed up all the fans are when voting for the All-Star game.

naico
02-26-2008, 01:49 PM
Right now:

1. Paul
2. Kobe
3. LeBron (yeah i know, but i think if he gives it his all EVERY game, he could be even better)
4. Duncan
5. R.Wallace (Yep nd he deserves it)
6. Howard
7. Garnett
8. Pierce
9. Nash
10. Manu

naico
02-26-2008, 01:59 PM
Lets get this straight Duncan out-rebounding Garnett by a ton, and scoring about the same on a team that was missing key pieces longer.

Garnett gets this award it is a shame. He could not even get a team to sniff the playoffs then gets with two stars and is carried again - just like his MVP year when Cassell won more games with clutch shots.

Garnett is not and should not ever be a MVP!

I'm getting sick of the KG hype around the press..He's definitly deserving of him helping the Celtics to an incredible record. He brings tough Defense nd offensively a huge presence. But Pierce is right up there and everybody's contributing on that team. Perkins, Powe, Big Baby...Sorry but they're all better than our bigs (except Kurt).
If people are not taking his Stats into consideration than Duncan should 've deserved 5 MVP's by now.

urunobili
02-26-2008, 02:05 PM
Tim Duncan or LBJ

Texas_Ranger
02-26-2008, 02:12 PM
Kobe
Paul
Duncan

Obstructed_View
02-26-2008, 02:58 PM
They need to just rename it the Lebron James award, so they can give it to Kobe or Paul with a clear conscience.