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timvp
02-29-2008, 02:46 AM
When the San Antonio Spurs and the Dallas Mavericks take the court, you know you are going to be in for a great game. Tonight in the AT&T Center, that theory held true. Both teams traded body blows all night until the Spurs were able to unleash their knockout punch and win by a final score of 97-94.

At the end of the game, Tim Duncan drained two free throws and then Bruce Bowen got a game-clinching blocked shot to seal it. The Spurs came out determined and obviously really wanted the win.

As far as the Mavs are concerned, they honestly looked pretty good. Jason Kidd is going to allow their scorers to get open shots. Dirk Nowitzki looked better than I have seen him all season. While they are definitely a work in progress, Mav Fan should be happy with what he saw.

That said, I feel really good about how the Spurs matchup with the Mavs now. Kidd is a great player but that trade makes life easier for the Spurs. Devin Harris and DeSagana Diop aren’t really that good of players but they are extremely effective against the Spurs. Before the trade, I would say the Mavs had the upper hand if the two teams played each other in the playoffs. After the trade, I’d say it’s either even or the Spurs have a small advantage. I’d still rather the Spurs avoid Dallas in the postseason, but it’s no longer as vital.

Overall, it was a quality, quality victory. The Spurs have now won seven games in a row. As the team heads into March, it’s time for the peaking to begin.

-Tim Duncan had fantastic energy most of the night. He came out more focused than I’ve seen him all season. Offensively, he was really strong and fought through whatever the Mavs were throwing at him. Almost all of his field goal attempts were excellent looks at the basket. On the night, Duncan finished with 31 points, 15 rebounds, three assists and one blocked shot. However, it wasn’t all roses and bank shots for Duncan. Defensively, Duncan got lit up by Brandon Bass on a number of occasions. He got in trouble against Bass when he started going for pump fakes – something Duncan rarely does. Perhaps he was overanxious or perhaps he hadn't read his scouting report. On the whole it was a very nice game for Duncan, even though his man-to-man defense was sub par.

-Manu Ginobili had a streaky affair. He started off 1-for-6 from the field. He then bounced back to hit five of his next six attempts before halftime. In the second half, Ginobili missed all eight of his field goal attempts. For the game, Ginobili had 17 points, five rebounds and five assists, while shooting 6-of-20 from the field. While it’d be easy to dismiss this game as a poor showing for Ginobili, his spurt in the first half was vital. In the second half he did suck for the most part but you can’t be too mad at him. He’s been carrying this team for a while now. Ginobili’s biggest problem in the second half was likely fatigue as he’s played a lot of minutes in recent weeks. On the night, Ginobili added 38 more minutes to his season total.

-Tony Parker is still trying to get his game wind back but he’s getting there. Unlike recent games, Parker did a good job of repeatedly penetrating the basketball. He created a number of open shots and had the Mavs scrambling to keep up. His overall execution offensively was still lacking but defensively he was really good. He stayed up on Jason Terry all night and didn’t allow him to get any open looks. In fact, Terry went scoreless in the first half. Health-wise, Parker isn’t limping and he almost looks to be at his top speed, so for now it’s safe to believe that his ankle has improved. Against the Mavs, Parker scored 10 points, grabbed five rebounds and handed out four assists. He shot 5-for-13 from the field, including 1-for-5 on jumpers. Parker is still only a shadow of his former self but hopefully we will see continued improvement in the upcoming weeks.

-Bruce Bowen had a vintage Bruce Bowen performance. He hit big shots when it mattered, got under Terry’s skin to cause a technical foul and then blocked Terry at the end of the game to send the Mavericks packing. Not bad for a 37-year-old specialist who some say has reached the end of his rope. In 37 minutes, Bowen had 14 points, four rebounds, two assists and two blocked shots, while hitting 5-of-8 shots from the floor. In the second half, Bowen was a perfect 4-for-4 from the floor. While Bowen didn’t have a dominant game overall defensively, he came up with the big play when it mattered.

-Fabricio Oberto played 14 minutes and was only decent. While on the court, he finished with four points, one rebound and two steals. His perimeter defense out on Nowitzki was commendable but he hurt the team by not pulling down a single defensive rebound. It wasn’t a bad game but Oberto has definitely seen better outings.

-Michael Finley was huge off the bench for the Spurs. When the Spurs fell down by ten points in the second half, Finley scored nine of the Spurs' 11 points as the Spurs wiped out the ten point lead in just little over two minutes. Without that run, the Mavs could have conceivably blown the game open. Finley finished with 16 points on 5-for-9 shooting from the field, including 3-for-5 shooting from beyond the arc. While he absolutely deserves props on his offense, Finley’s defense was horrible. He was constantly getting beat off the dribble, which is surprising because he’s been a relatively good defender this season. Despite his defensive shortcomings, Finley led the team in plus/minus on the night with a +12.

-Ime Udoka competed valiantly against Dallas but he wasn’t overly effective. He committed a couple of bad fouls and didn’t play Nowitzki as well as Spurs fans were hoping. It wasn’t a bad game for Udoka but it wasn’t anything to write home to Portland about. In 20 minutes, Udoka had three points and three rebounds. His lone basket came at the third quarter buzzer when he hit a three-pointer to give the Spurs a one-point lead.

-I once again liked how Damon Stoudamire ran the team. He’s a smart player who can get the team into its sets and understands when and how to pass the ball. On the night, Stoudamire totaled two points and two assists in ten minutes of action. It appears that he’s going to be an asset for this team down the stretch run of the season.

-Robert Horry got ten minutes of playing time and had a pretty awful game. He had a team-worst plus/minus of -14 and was hopeless when matched up against Nowitzki. The Mavs appear to be a team that Horry just doesn’t matchup well against. He’s not quick enough to guard Nowitzki and he’s not strong enough to guard Erick Dampier or Bass. Even with the Kidd trade, Horry remains virtually useless against Dallas, which is reason enough to try to avoid this team in the playoffs.

-Jacque Vaughn was actually the first point guard off the bench for the Spurs. I didn’t think he played that well and apparently Pop agreed because Vaughn didn’t see the floor for the rest of the night. In five minutes, Vaughn missed one shot and did nothing else.

-Kurt Thomas played four minutes in the first half and didn’t crack the stat sheet. He had a couple of errors on the defensive side of the court, which is to be expected for a new player in the system. He’s going to be useful for the Spurs but don’t expect Thomas to be much of an answer against the Mavs. He matches up better than Horry because he can defend Dampier and Bass, however when the Mavs go small Pop will be forced to take Thomas out of the game.

-Pop did a decent enough job coaching tonight. He played a lot of small ball but he’s forced to do so against the Mavs. The good thing is Udoka allows the Spurs not to be as soft in their small ball lineup as they were in the past. But really, if the two teams face off in the playoffs, the Spurs will use much of the same strategy that was used in 2006.

The big difference is the Spurs are better able to defend this Mavs team. Pop can put Ginobili on Kidd and have Ginobili double off of Kidd and force Kidd to hit jumpers. Parker can guard Terry and Terry is the exact type of player that Parker guards very well. You put Parker on a shorter guard who likes to shoot jumpers and Parker can shut that type of player down (see: Allen Iverson, Derek Fisher, Leandro Barbosa and Daniel Gibson in the 2007 playoffs). Then Bowen is left to guard either Josh Howard or Nowitzki.

In 2006, the matchups were much tougher. Parker versus Harris was bad because Parker doesn’t defend penetrating guards too well. Terry versus Ginobili was equally as bad because Ginobili tends to gamble defensively and that allowed Terry to get some easy shots.

In this game, I’m not sure why Pop went with Vaughn over Stoudamire to backup Parker in the first quarter. At this point, I’ve seen no reason not to trust Stoudamire with running the team while Parker is out. Vaughn is a good emergency player but this team isn’t in an emergency at the moment.

Like I’ve harped on for the past month or so, Pop needs to really pay more attention to Ginobili’s minutes. Continually playing him more than 35 minutes a night in the regular season is crazy. A few wins isn’t worth having Ginobili spent come playoff time.

The bottomline is this was a good win. No matter the scenario, it’s always good to beat the Mavs. Seven in a row is an impressive feat, especially considering how poorly the team was playing not too long ago.

Next up is the Milwaukee Bucks on Saturday, which likely means the win streak ends. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

Obstructed_View
02-29-2008, 02:54 AM
Still haven't seen the Spurs play a complete game start to finish, and they only play well in very short spurts. Duncan just fell asleep on defense way too many times. Pop went with a really weird rotation. I don't know what he was trying to do, but something about having AJ in the building causes him to make questionable decisions. He also had some really strange combinations on the floor for stretches. Horry and Vaughn were really terrible, and Finley's bad team defense was made up for by some really good individual plays and a good shooting streak. I'm hoping for a commitment to defense and rebounding, as well as a healthy Brent Barry with a "fuck it-I'm gonna shoot" attitude once the playoffs roll around.

Admidave50
02-29-2008, 02:55 AM
Always nice to read your recap after a win, especially when we beat the Mavs! =p

jcrod
02-29-2008, 03:03 AM
I was impressed with Parkers defensive intensity. He fought Dirk well when switch off on him and always seemed to make him take a tough shot.

Again why does Pop continue to put Vaughn in. Stoudamire is playing way better and just let him play and make mistakes. It will pay off in the long run.

gilmor
02-29-2008, 03:04 AM
Always nice to read your recap after a win, especially when we beat the Mavs! =p

It's beyond being 'nice'.. TiMVP's game thoughts posts have been nothing short of 'awesome'..

jcrod
02-29-2008, 03:06 AM
Next months game will be interesting with a healthy Parker and Kidd being more comfortable with his teammates.

some_user86
02-29-2008, 03:08 AM
I was impressed with Parkers defensive intensity. He fought Dirk well when switch off on him and always seemed to make him take a tough shot.

Again why does Pop continue to put Vaughn in. Stoudamire is playing way better and just let him play and make mistakes. It will pay off in the long run.

What is this 'continue to put Vaughn in'? He was barely in there.

jcrod
02-29-2008, 03:22 AM
What is this 'continue to put Vaughn in'? He was barely in there.


UHH, he was in there. Why put him in the games at all, give all his minutes to Damon.

Obstructed_View
02-29-2008, 03:32 AM
Since he was the first point guard off the bench, and got all the backup minutes in the first quarter, I think it's a legitimate question. Seems odd to suddenly screw with a rotation that was starting to show signs of rounding into form.

objective
02-29-2008, 03:38 AM
In this game, I’m not sure why Pop went with Vaughn over Stoudamire to backup Parker in the first quarter.


I would guess that Pop went with Vaughn on the assumption that Vaughn would know how to better defend Kidd given the time they spent as teammates and that experience took precedent over Stoudamire playing better than Vaughn recently.

Pop realized his mistaken assumption and corrected it.

m33p0
02-29-2008, 03:39 AM
finally tore down the scola thread. :) :tu

baseline bum
02-29-2008, 03:40 AM
Man, 47 lead changes tonight!

some_user86
02-29-2008, 03:43 AM
UHH, he was in there. Why put him in the games at all, give all his minutes to Damon.

Damon had him beat in terms of minutes by a ratio of 2:1. I still don't see the complaint. It's still a trial process to see who matches up better against a team that has had a major change at their PG position. Eventually, Pop settled on whoever was better.

Slippy
02-29-2008, 03:48 AM
Again why does Pop continue to put Vaughn in. Stoudamire is playing way better and just let him play and make mistakes. It will pay off in the long run.

The only reason i could come up with was to match-up with KIDD . Bad move and even Pop realised it . I was saying in the game thread, Vaughn just sapped any fluencey the offense had . He was playing at one pace and took too long in deciding what to do with the ball.

From what i've seen with Stoudamire he definately the better at option as back-up point, even when he not scoring .


Tony became bit of liability in the 3rd and 4th. His man was sagging off him to protect the lane and when he had the ball daring him to shoot jumpers. Hopefully he gets his stroke back soon.

StoneBuddha
02-29-2008, 03:49 AM
-Bruce Bowen had a vintage Bruce Bowen performance. He hit big shots when it mattered, got under Terry’s skin to cause a technical foul and then blocked Terry at the end of the game to send the Mavericks packing.

Anyone know why Terry was upset with Bowen? I freeze-framed the whole sequence and didn't see anything. He looked like he was saying someone elbowed him but Bowen was pretty far away from him most of the play.

BTW, Terry's a little, bitty hothead.

Ice009
02-29-2008, 03:53 AM
Anyone know why Terry was upset with Bowen? I freeze-framed the whole sequence and didn't see anything. He looked like he was saying someone elbowed him but Bowen was pretty far away from him most of the play.

BTW, Terry's a little, bitty hothead.


I didn't see the play, but from the looks of it it seems that Terry thought Bowen elbowed him. Are you saying Bruce was nowhere near him? If that's the case Bruce got inside Jason's head. :).

ludda
02-29-2008, 03:53 AM
^well what else is new? Terry is still a punkheaded little bitch, nothing made me happier than seeing him get his shit stuffed by Bowen.

He's a whiny turd, similar to his owner and coach.

Not only am I convinced that the Mavs won't go far, I'm almost certain as long as Avery is the coach of that team.

Obstructed_View
02-29-2008, 03:56 AM
It would have been after the play when Terry was going back upcourt. The cameras didn't pick up what happened prior, but he suddenly wheeled back around and came right at Bruce. Terry had just walked past him, so Bruce was close enough to have done something. Terry gets a flagrant or a technical in virtually every game against the Spurs; it's amazing that he can dish it out but isn't man enough to take it, or at very least to expect it.

TDMVPDPOY
02-29-2008, 04:28 AM
This game remind of the last match against teh suns,

on paper they look like they are going to beat us, a beating was expecting,

they played shit, refs tried to steal the game from us, they choked every opportunity allowed us to hang in there for 3 quarters...4th quarter? they forget, TIM DUNCAN AND GINOBOLI MAKE A LIVIN IN THE 4TH QUARTERS

took the game away from them, executed when we need it = WIN.

flawless victory.

pku47
02-29-2008, 05:21 AM
Bass seems like a Malik Rose of Dal, he got two dunks over Duncan. If he gets a quality defence, he would be perfect spur

I do like mavs forwards, Howard, Bass, even Dirk, he would be a nice substitute of Bonner :lol

anyway, NICE WIN :elephant

roycrikside
02-29-2008, 05:25 AM
I think Manu needs to go back to the bench. That's the easiest way for Pop to discipline himself into limiting his minutes. Bring him in at the 6 minute mark, play him until the 8 minute mark of the 2nd, let him sit for a quick three minute blow, and bring him back for the final five minutes. Repeat in 2nd half.

Voila: 30 minutes for Manu.

Tony is healthy enough to take more responsibility and Tim is playing very well these days, they can handle the starting load. I want this team to have a bench again and I'm concerned about Manu being worn out for the playoffs too.

Slippy
02-29-2008, 05:29 AM
-I once again liked how Damon Stoudamire ran the team. He’s a smart player who can get the team into its sets and understands when and how to pass the ball. On the night, Stoudamire totaled two points and two assists in ten minutes of action. It appears that he’s going to be an asset for this team down the stretch run of the season.

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Yah, I like the way he pushes the ball and gets the offense going promptly. When needed he would know to slow it down and i don't mean Vaughn pace either.

From a handful of games he's picked up the spurs offense. A few games back i remember being impressed at the way he was directing the traffic, as in pointing out to his teammates where to go. It's also greast to have back-up that can help space the floor with a reliable 3.

The Spurs just seem to play better on offense when he running the point over Vaughn. Manu in particular.

K-State Spur
02-29-2008, 06:13 AM
hopefully with a few games coming up against some eastern teams with losing record, we can get some more rest for the starters. (although, for some reason, we always seem to have problems in milwaukee...)

WalterBenitez
02-29-2008, 06:24 AM
Great recap from a very emotive game, besides all usual good players, good play that were touching were Udoka's 3 + Bruce's block + manu last second shot + ...

Great to see TD playing like a SuperStar and TP going better and better.

THis game emotional prize goes to Mike Finley, this guy enjoyed the game.

polandprzem
02-29-2008, 06:29 AM
FUCK YEAH

They will rerun that game after 10pm! So I will be able to steal a tv and watch that game. :tu

Findog
02-29-2008, 08:43 AM
As far as the Mavs are concerned, they honestly looked pretty good. Jason Kidd is going to allow their scorers to get open shots. Dirk Nowitzki looked better than I have seen him all season. While they are definitely a work in progress, Mav Fan should be happy with what he saw.

That said, I feel really good about how the Spurs matchup with the Mavs now. Kidd is a great player but that trade makes life easier for the Spurs. Devin Harris and DeSagana Diop aren’t really that good of players but they are extremely effective against the Spurs. Before the trade, I would say the Mavs had the upper hand if the two teams played each other in the playoffs. After the trade, I’d say it’s either even or the Spurs have a small advantage. I’d still rather the Spurs avoid Dallas in the postseason, but it’s no longer as vital.


Are you sure? whottt says we should forfeit anytime the Spurs appear on our schedule, there's just a huge gulf between the two teams now.

to21
02-29-2008, 08:50 AM
:tu Great report.

I like that kid Bass. I think Tim got tired guarding him and his play on the offensive end tilted slightly in the second half. I'm sure (hope) he'll be ready for him next time.

SAGambler
02-29-2008, 09:22 AM
Does anyone else notice this little bit about Manu? Start of 4th, Manu starts drawing fouls. Last night he got 3 in probably under a minute. If they would have kept sending the ball back to him, Dallas would have been in the penalty way earlier than they were.

On Dirk.....He shoots 30 frigging percent and yet ends up with 28 points because they send his ass to the free throw line anytime someone breathes too heavy on him. 17 goddamn points on FTs. It's just ridiculous. He trips over Udoka's foot, falls to the floor screaming, and gets to shoot FTs. I'm beginning to think this fucker is a bigger flopper than Ginobili ever was. He just does it in a way they don't see it. Duncan shoots 60 percent from the field and yet only outscores the guy by 3.

And did anyone else notice that picture they threw up of Dirk and a couple of other guys. He looked like a flaming queen. Not the first picture I have seen where he looked like that. Is this guy...uh...strange....or what?

01Snake
02-29-2008, 09:33 AM
Next up is the Milwaukee Bucks on Saturday, which likely means the win streak ends. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

HAHA! You're probably right!

leemajors
02-29-2008, 09:40 AM
i liked dampier's body check on dirk near the end of the game. i thought they would call a foul there.

Sportcamper
02-29-2008, 09:41 AM
Why didn’t J Kidd play in crunch time? Why doesn’t Dirk get tough in the low post?

spursfan09
02-29-2008, 09:44 AM
I have a question. Y do the Spurs go small ball against Dallas? Why don't they try staying big? They couldn't get a defensive rebound there for a while and it was so annoying.

peewee's lovechild
02-29-2008, 09:44 AM
I was lucky enough to be at the game.

The AT&T Center was rocking with energy.
It was a great game, eventhough the refs gave the Mavs every opportunity to win the game.

I was a little concerned with Tony's inconsistent offensive play, but he made up for it defensively. Damn, he even covered Nowitski a couple of times.

The only bad thing about the game is that there were some annoying Mavs fans sitting a few rows in front of me. I don't know the percentage of Mavs fans in attendance, I'd have to get with Monosylabic to figure out how he gets his percentages just by looking at jerseys, but there were more than a few.

All in all, it was a great game.

Can't wait for the playoffs.

peewee's lovechild
02-29-2008, 09:45 AM
Why didn’t J Kidd play in crunch time? Why doesn’t Dirk get tough in the low post?

That was stupid move by AJ.
But, I'm not really complaining.

degenerate_gambler
02-29-2008, 10:14 AM
it's amazing that he can dish it out but isn't man enough to take it, or at very least to expect it.


small man syndrome...


there's alot of 'em with that attitude.

travis2
02-29-2008, 10:18 AM
LJ, compared to what you wrote above, every other Spurs/Mavs recap sucked!






:D

wildchild
02-29-2008, 10:23 AM
-Fabricio Oberto played 14 minutes and was only decent. While on the court, he finished with four points, one rebound and two steals. His perimeter defense out on Nowitzki was commendable but he hurt the team by not pulling down a single defensive rebound. It wasn’t a bad game but Oberto has definitely seen better outings.

-Robert Horry got ten minutes of playing time and had a pretty awful game. He had a team-worst plus/minus of -14 and was hopeless when matched up against Nowitzki. The Mavs appear to be a team that Horry just doesn’t matchup well against. He’s not quick enough to guard Nowitzki and he’s not strong enough to guard Erick Dampier or Bass. Even with the Kidd trade, Horry remains virtually useless against Dallas, which is reason enough to try to avoid this team in the playoffs.

I'm not sure. He was wide awake. I really liked Oberto on Dirk and Bass didn't scored over him.
Also, Oberto drew two Dampier's offensive fouls.
With a quiet game of Robert, I don't know why Oberto didn't see more minutes.

Ghost Writer
02-29-2008, 10:34 AM
Nice observations, timvp.

My thoughts:

Bowen is a dirty, but I'm glad he's on my team. I was really pleased with his offense last night; he made good decisions with the ball and hit a few midrange shots, taking what the defense gave him.

Manu is having one of those years, where he is perpetually in the zone, because his confidence is astounding. Even when he lost his shot in the second half, his body language still suggested that he'd make them all. His assist to a dunking Duncan late in the 4th was huge, because he had just picked up a bad foul on a needless steal attempt on Terry.

Dirk is Dirk. When you put a shooter's skill's in a center's body, it creates problems. I actually think the fact that the Spurs throw multiple players of different body types at him is a strength for San Antonio. Dirk has to discover different ways to score.

Anyone who thinks Kidd is not a boon for the Mavs is a retard. Coach Johnson should have put his ego aside and had him in at the end there.

Parker needs to find his wind... and his jumper. Both will come in due time.

Doug Collins called Mike Finley's eruption. I like the passion that Finley showed... nice to see him contribute defensively, too. He always gets up for the Mavs games.

Terry needs to grow up.

I like Manu off the bench (he and Parker don't seem to be on the same page offensively.

Duncan looks like he turned back the clock. He's quietly improving on those FTs, too. If I had to nitpick, I want to see more blocked shots, as he was dunked on. Twice.

You bet your @ss this game was important. I loved seeing Pop raise his hand up for hi-5s at the end.

41times
02-29-2008, 10:35 AM
I thought this was just another Great Game in the long series of Great games that these 2 teams always seem to play. If the NBA Finals were played by these two teams, the Fans all over the country couldn't help but love it.

Every time these two teams play it is back and forth and the great players always play great. This game brings out the Best in Duncan and Dirk and it is just a blast to watch.

Now for those Spurs fans who thought that our trading of Harris and Diop would make for an easy victory over the Mavs, I hope you have re-thought that. Kidd and Bass are as good or better than Harris + Diop.

Basically this matchup is as dead even as it has ever been. And probably if Jason Terry and Avery not gone completely crazy last night the Mavs would have won the game.

I just hope we get to play in the Playoffs because it will be 7 great games!

T Park
02-29-2008, 10:40 AM
And probably if Jason Terry and Avery not gone completely crazy last night the Mavs would have won the game.


If Parker and Ginobili show up offensively the Spurs blow out the Mavericks.

wildchild
02-29-2008, 10:41 AM
Bowen is a dirty, but I'm glad he's on my team. I was really pleased with his offense last night; he made good decisions with the ball and hit a few midrange shots, taking what the defense gave him.

You read my mind.

maxpower
02-29-2008, 10:48 AM
RE: Why Vaughn over Stoudemire...

The tnt crew mentioned Stoudemire's back was bothering him(tightened up) as the reason they went with vaughn initially.

Findog
02-29-2008, 10:51 AM
I have a question. Y do the Spurs go small ball against Dallas? Why don't they try staying big? They couldn't get a defensive rebound there for a while and it was so annoying.

The Spurs go small against Dallas because Pop doesn't believe he has anybody that can guard Dirk consistently well, and he doesn't want Duncan getting into foul trouble by doing it. Plus, Dirk can take him out to the free-throw line extended and away from the basket. Surrounding Duncan with four wings against Dallas leads to best results, offensively at least.

clambake
02-29-2008, 10:55 AM
i can't wait to see how the mavs are playing down the road. there is still much confusion on where to be on the court, and too many turnovers. they'll work it out to every other teams dismay. kidd could make bass a monster.

rAm
02-29-2008, 12:06 PM
great game, and an even better recap.

I agree with everything you said TimVP, we need to rest Manu a little bit more and let Mighty Mouse get some more minutes to build chemistry. You can see Manu getting a little tired out there.

urunobili
02-29-2008, 12:11 PM
Next up is the Milwaukee Bucks on Saturday, which likely means the win streak ends. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
wtf??? :depressed

FromWayDowntown
02-29-2008, 12:22 PM
A 10-1 February in the books.

Agloco
02-29-2008, 12:25 PM
Still haven't seen the Spurs play a complete game start to finish, and they only play well in very short spurts. Duncan just fell asleep on defense way too many times. Pop went with a really weird rotation. I don't know what he was trying to do, but something about having AJ in the building causes him to make questionable decisions. He also had some really strange combinations on the floor for stretches. Horry and Vaughn were really terrible, and Finley's bad team defense was made up for by some really good individual plays and a good shooting streak. I'm hoping for a commitment to defense and rebounding, as well as a healthy Brent Barry with a "fuck it-I'm gonna shoot" attitude once the playoffs roll around.

Part of me thinks that Pop doesn't want the Mavs to see too many plays or lineups that are effective for the Spurs at this point in the season. Pop does go with some crazy matchups against Dallas. I think it's to guard against them getting too familiar with what we like to do.

timvp
02-29-2008, 02:46 PM
I have a question. Y do the Spurs go small ball against Dallas? Why don't they try staying big? They couldn't get a defensive rebound there for a while and it was so annoying.The Spurs don't have a big who can guard Dirk. The bad thing is the Spurs don't have a small who can guard Dirk either.

You'd think the Spurs would have addressed this at some point between the 2006 series and now ... but they haven't.

K-State Spur
02-29-2008, 03:10 PM
The Spurs don't have a big who can guard Dirk. The bad thing is the Spurs don't have a small who can guard Dirk either.

You'd think the Spurs would have addressed this at some point between the 2006 series and now ... but they haven't.

i still think there was a flaw in strategy in that series.

bowen made dirk work hard, but Dirk still got his.

i think we'd have been better off letting bowen put the clamps on Howard and then just letting Dirk go Amare on the defense.

dirk can have his 35-40, just keep howard/stack from going off.

peacemaker885
02-29-2008, 05:47 PM
Did anybody notice how on one particular fastbreak Manu and Fab(?) were running towards the basket. Dirk was about to bolt forward when Tony came from behind and blocked Dirk's path preventing him from runni
ng and possibly trying to protect the basket. Amazing how these guys try to defend and watch out for each other.

SenorSpur
02-29-2008, 06:53 PM
It strikes me that Tim has an awful lot of responsibility on the defensive end. Obviously, he's the last line of defense in the paint. When a team like the Mavs goes small, it pains me to see him have to come out and guard a big forward like Bass. He needs help.

Obstructed_View
02-29-2008, 06:58 PM
The Spurs go small against Dallas because Pop doesn't believe he has anybody that can guard Dirk consistently well, and he doesn't want Duncan getting into foul trouble by doing it. Plus, Dirk can take him out to the free-throw line extended and away from the basket. Surrounding Duncan with four wings against Dallas leads to best results, offensively at least.
I'm not sure what the Spurs' record is against Dallas since beginning that strategy, but I'm quite sure it's less than .500. Duncan's going to have to learn to cover Dirk at some point, and Pop's going to have to give him a chance to do it, at least at the end of the game.

td4mvp21
02-29-2008, 07:00 PM
I'm not sure what the Spurs' record is against Dallas since beginning that strategy, but I'm quite sure it's less than .500. Duncan's going to have to learn to cover Dirk at some point, and Pop's going to have to give him a chance to do it, at least at the end of the game.

:tu

Slippy
02-29-2008, 10:30 PM
Does anyone else notice this little bit about Manu? Start of 4th, Manu starts drawing fouls. Last night he got 3 in probably under a minute. If they would have kept sending the ball back to him, Dallas would have been in the penalty way earlier than they were.

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yah i did, was thinking the same. Gotta give Josh Howard some credit for playing some top notch denial defense on Manu who had just made Devon george look slow with 2 quick fouls. Still, Spurs should of found ways to free up Manu and get him the ball. Even Howard struggled once Manu did get it. The grabbing of Manu foul running around screen was a good example of that.