Game Blog - Spurs @ Nets March 2

[td4mvp21]

Nets FG only 35%

Minutes looked good again

TD 35
TP 33
Manu 29

I'd like to see TD get two or three less minutes, but yeah, minutes look good.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

They're building towards the business end of the year, and I really like the way they've picked up the D during and since the RRT. Lately, the extra gear has been evident on D, and it's good to know that it's there.

:tu

[Whisky Dog]

Spurs looked damn good. It woulda been a 20 point blowup if not for bad officiating. And it was bad officiating. Not whining about it, it just was.

Nah. The officiating was very loose, but the Spurs were allowed their fair share of hacking and holding as well. The game would have been a blowout if the Spurs had shot consistently throughout the game instead of going cold at times, such as opening the 2nd half 6 for 20. Can't complain too much as they had just played a close game last night in a midwestern city before flying to Jersey for this early evening tip.

[Whisky Dog]

I actually am disappointed at the amount of whining from Duncan this game. Sure he was getting held and hacked, but the officials were allowing the Spurs to hold and hack quite a bit as well. Gotta realize the game is being called loosely and just adapt to it. Instead he let it get him off his game and picked up a T in the 4th.

[Holt's Cat]

Bad things? 3 point defense and not really ripping the Nets' heart out when they had the chance. Still, overall it was a well played Spurs game. Hard to argue with holding their opponent to 35% from the floor, outrebounding them, and holding them to 8 assists.

[Holt's Cat]

Thomas was efficient on the glass with 9 boards in 17 minutes. Hopefully his J will start to drop. He looked like he gets Spurs Basketball, which is a very good sign.

[T Park]

I actually am disappointed at the amount of whining from Duncan this game. Sure he was getting held and hacked, but the officials were allowing the Spurs to hold and hack quite a bit as well. Gotta realize the game is being called loosely and just adapt to it. Instead he let it get him off his game and picked up a T in the 4th.


Once again, you go down in the post and get the shit beat out of you and see how you handle it.

[Ice009]

They're building towards the business end of the year, and I really like the way they've picked up the D during and since the RRT. Lately, the extra gear has been evident on D, and it's good to know that it's there.

:tu


I don't know if it's a coincidence, but the other team seems to miss a lot of shots when Kurt Thomas is on the court.

[Ice009]

Once again, you go down in the post and get the shit beat out of you and see how you handle it.


LOL i'm going to add to that. YOU're talking about TONIGHT Wiskydog, now take it ONE STEP further - You GO DOWN IN THE POST and get the shit beaten out of you all season then TELL ME how you like it.

Don't worry about adjusting tonight. Tim's been getting that treatment ALL season.

[Ice009]

Sorry if I sound a little harsh, but if Dirk can get 21 free throws in a game I don't understand why Tim does not get at least 10 a game.

[SpursFanFirst]

I completely missed this game. I thought it was at 8 :depressed
I'm counting on that Timvp game recap!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

LOL i'm going to add to that. YOU're talking about TONIGHT Wiskydog, now take it ONE STEP further - You GO DOWN IN THE POST and get the shit beaten out of you all season then TELL ME how you like it.

Don't worry about adjusting tonight. Tim's been getting that treatment ALL season.

Yup, I used to play in the post, and there's nothing more frustrating than watching as all the little guys on the court get ticky tack calls while you're collecting cuts and bruises under the rim for nothing.

[Whisky Dog]

T Park, Ice... I get your points but Duncan isn't the only guy in the league getting held and hacked on the low block. It's part of basketball, and Duncan is usually very good at not letting a loose called game take him out of his game. Tonight he let the lack of calls take him out of his game, and he picked up a T in the 4th when the game was still to be decided. I know he was frustrated, but you can't pick up that T in the 4th. Luckily the Nets suck enough and Parker sparked the daggers that ended it, but it was somewhat of a loss of composure by TD in the 4th.

[T Park]

T Park, Ice... I get your points but Duncan isn't the only guy in the league getting held and hacked on the low block. It's part of basketball, and Duncan is usually very good at not letting a loose called game take him out of his game. Tonight he let the lack of calls take him out of his game, and he picked up a T in the 4th when the game was still to be decided. I know he was frustrated, but you can't pick up that T in the 4th. Luckily the Nets suck enough and Parker sparked the daggers that ended it, but it was somewhat of a loss of composure by TD in the 4th.


Its part of the game?

bs.

Im sorry I can't accept that getting beat up in the post like Dirk but shooting only 4 6 or 8 FTs a damn game..

[Whisky Dog]

Its part of the game?

bs.

Im sorry I can't accept that getting beat up in the post like Dirk but shooting only 4 6 or 8 FTs a damn game..

Dirk getting touch calls that night was bullshit.

This is a different game and a different night, and tonight the officials were calling a loose game (meaning they were letting the post play be more physical than normal). They called it on both ends for the most part, there were many times when Boone got hacked by TD, Thomas, or whoever and didn't get calls. Diop a couple of times as well.

BTW, if you don't think physicality in the paint is just part of the game in the NBA then you don't know much about the NBA. I know you're thinking that getting held and hacked aren't part of the game, but if the game is being called consistently that way on both ends there isn't anything you can do except keep your composure, tough it out, and battle your ass off. TD usually does all three well in loosely called games, but tonight he failed to a degree in the composure department. Not a very big deal, but out of character for one of the best post players of all time.

[SouthernFried]

I don't whine about officiating much...but, when it's warranted, it's warranted. There was a big difference in the way the game was called tonight. If you didn't see it, fine. I did...and so did TD, and many others. And it wasn't just about TD...he's just the one who made it known. He's our leader after all and I'll take that T in a game like this from our leader any day of the week. It was needed.

Game woulda been a blowout the way the Spurs were playing.

Anyway, I hate talking about officiating, I'm done with it. We won despite it, nothing could stop us tonight. Good game

[Whisky Dog]

I don't whine about officiating much...but, when it's warranted, it's warranted. There was a big difference in the way the game was called tonight. If you didn't see it, fine. I did...and so did TD, and many others. And it wasn't just about TD...he's just the one who made it known. He's our leader after all.

Game woulda been a blowout the way the Spurs were playing.

Anyway, I hate talking about officiating, I'm done with it. We won despite it, nothing could stop us tonight. Good game

Maybe your Spurs glasses didn't allow you to see the Nets' guys getting held and hacked as well, but it did happen. We're gonna just have to disagree, but make sure to watch both ends when looking at the officiating.

[Whisky Dog]

I don't know many teams the Spurs blow out when they shoot as poorly in stretches as they did tonight. 6-20 to open the 2nd half? Cold stretches to finish the 1st quarter and start the 2nd? Don't blow out many teams like that.

[T Park]

Maybe your Spurs glasses didn't allow you to see the Nets' guys getting held and hacked as well, but it did happen. We're gonna just have to disagree, but make sure to watch both ends when looking at the officiating.


Ya see its this bullshit i hate.

You don't need spurs glasses to see Duncan was getting hacked like a damn field of corn tonight, and wasn't
getting SQUAT.

[Whisky Dog]

Ya see its this bullshit i hate.

You don't need spurs glasses to see Duncan was getting hacked like a damn field of corn tonight, and wasn't
getting SQUAT.

No, but what kept you from seeing Boone and others on the Nets getting held and hacked as well? It was very loosely officiated, but on both sides.

No need to get all emotional with the "Ya see its this bullshit i hate" stuff. Keep it logical and make a point. I already said TD got held and hacked, but my point is that the game was being called that way and getting T'd up in the 4th with the game on the line isn't disciplined Spurs basketball.

[Ice009]

No, but what kept you from seeing Boone and others on the Nets getting held and hacked as well? It was very loosely officiated, but on both sides.

No need to get all emotional with the "Ya see its this bullshit i hate" stuff. Keep it logical and make a point. I already said TD got held and hacked, but my point is that the game was being called that way and getting T'd up in the 4th with the game on the line isn't disciplined Spurs basketball.

That's because we don't watch the Nets night in and night out, we watch the Spurs night in and night out and see Tim getting hacked quite often with no foul calls. I really think as far as superstars go Tim gets a lot less calls than most of them.

[duncan228]

Duncan rarely gets technicals.
He is the leader of this team, he can make a statement when he feels the need to, whether we agree with it or not.
It cost him what, $5000. to do it? That's a pretty serious statement even with the money he makes.

I'm the first to admit he whines. He can whine too much. But he whines on the court, not off it. And if he was pissed off enough to push and get the T so be it.

Duncan is the definition of "disciplined Spurs basketball."
He was pissed tonight, the no calls finally got to him.

[T Park]

No, but what kept you from seeing Boone and others on the Nets getting held and hacked as well? It was very loosely officiated, but on both sides.

No need to get all emotional with the "Ya see its this bullshit i hate" stuff. Keep it logical and make a point. I already said TD got held and hacked, but my point is that the game was being called that way and getting T'd up in the 4th with the game on the line isn't disciplined Spurs basketball.


Yeah it was really loose when Oberto got called for standing in front of Vince Carter...

[Ice009]

Yeah it was really loose when Oberto got called for standing in front of Vince Carter...


That's the play that really pissed me off the most. Pop should have just went off and picked up a T on that one. Pop should just go up to the refs holding his arms in the air and when the ref touches him to tell him to go back and sit down Pop calls the T on the ref ;).

I mean really some of these fouls, especially And 1's where the Spurs are standing there with their arms straight up are a joke. These should be NO CALLS most of the time, or if they do call them call it both ways.

[T Park]

I mean really some of these fouls, especially And 1's where the Spurs are standing there with their arms straight up are a joke. These should be NO CALLS most of the time, or if they do call them call it both ways.


Thats a foul.

Yet on the other end Duncan gets a hand to the side and slashed across the arms.

Nothin.

[ducks]

manu less then 30 minutes tonight
not bad pop

[Ice009]

Thats a foul.

Yet on the other end Duncan gets a hand to the side and slashed across the arms.

Nothin.


They normally let these go on the other end of the court quite often though.

Screw it. I need to shut up about the refs now. I'm going to Wisky Dog's side now. Just play the game.

[Herschel Walker]

Duncan rarely gets technicals.
He is the leader of this team, he can make a statement when he feels the need to, whether we agree with it or not.
It cost him what, $5000. to do it? That's a pretty serious statement even with the money he makes.

I'm the first to admit he whines. He can whine too much. But he whines on the court, not off it. And if he was pissed off enough to push and get the T so be it.

Duncan is the definition of "disciplined Spurs basketball."
He was pissed tonight, the no calls finally got to him.

He played undisciplined in the 4th tonight. Sometimes even the best have lapses, but you have to be accountable. What would you say if Udoka got T'd up in the 4th and lost composure in a tight game? What did you say when Udoka did that earlier in the season? I remember a lot of "he has to keep his composure and play Spurs ball" talk when that happened. That goes for everyone.

[Holt's Cat]

As much as TD complains to the refs, I'm surprised he doesn't get more.

[td4mvp21]

I don't like it when Tim bitches incessantly, but seriously, sometimes he needs to lay into the refs and get a technical to let them know what's up. Because apparently there are GUARDS in this league that average more free throw attempts than Duncan.

[dbreiden83080]

Duncan rarely gets technicals.
He is the leader of this team, he can make a statement when he feels the need to, whether we agree with it or not.
It cost him what, $5000. to do it? That's a pretty serious statement even with the money he makes.

I'm the first to admit he whines. He can whine too much. But he whines on the court, not off it. And if he was pissed off enough to push and get the T so be it.

Duncan is the definition of "disciplined Spurs basketball."
He was pissed tonight, the no calls finally got to him.

I thought he actually carried over the last game into this one. He played a pretty good 1st half but then he wasn't getting some calls and he really let his temper fly there. You could see him on the bench not really happy about the win because again he was pissed about his play. He'll bounce back though, he is coming off of stellar play for really the whole month of Jan and Feb.

[duncan228]

He played undisciplined in the 4th tonight. Sometimes even the best have lapses, but you have to be accountable. What would you say if Udoka got T'd up in the 4th and lost composure in a tight game? What did you say when Udoka did that earlier in the season? I remember a lot of "he has to keep his composure and play Spurs ball" talk when that happened. That goes for everyone.

I didn't see it as undisciplined.
He got hacked all night, he got no calls.
He got pissed and let the ref know.
I have no doubt that he knew what he was doing and the result it would bring.
He's got a right to stand up for himself. I've seen him do it countless times for his teammates.

If he'd been out of line Pop would have pulled him.
He stayed in the game, he stayed focused and played.

I don't remember the Udoka incident so I can't compare them.
But I give Duncan a hell of a lot more leeway than I give Udoka.
This is Duncan's team. He's earned the right to do anything he feels necessary to make his point.
He's been a model player in this league for over a decade. He doesn't have a reputation for flying off the handle.

Whether I agree with what he did or not I will never second guess him. He's been at the top of his game for a long time, he has the hardware to prove it. I believe he knows what he's doing out there.

Duncan is the epitomy of "keep your composure and play Spurs basketball."
The rule applies to everyone but it starts with Duncan. If he lays down and takes that shit what do his teammates think of him? The chances are they think he's a pussy who has no backbone. When he stands up for himself they can see his strength.

Most nights when he's beaten up with no calls he whines but lets it go. Tonight it got to him. I'm glad he let it out. When a player of his quality does something out of character people tend to take notice. I believe that will serve Duncan, and his team, well.

[Whisky Dog]

When you take a T with a lead in a close game in the 4th, it was undisciplined. The game had been called that way all game long, take the T in the 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd quarters. Don't take it in the 4th, if you hadn't made a point to get a T to "inspire" before then don't do it in crunch time.

[duncan228]

You see it your way, I see it mine.
Agree to disagree. :)

[Whisky Dog]

You see it your way, I see it mine.
Agree to disagree. :)

I'll agree that you're wrong

[duncan228]

I'll agree that you're wrong

You're too fucking kind.

[Herschel Walker]

I'll agree that you're wrong
2nd!

[Whisky Dog]

You're too fucking kind.

:lol

[duncan228]

You guys slay me.
It's so fucking important that your opinion, that's opinion not fact, is right.
There's no room for discussion.
It's got to be an argument until you "own" someone.

Does that do your ego good? Is that what it's about?

You see it one way, I see it another.
I agree to disagree and move on but that isn't good enough for you.
It's "own" and be right or nothing.

Think whatever the fuck you want to.
I've been here a long time.
Seen lots of your kind come and go.
What you think means nothing to me but I'll fight for your right to think it. And express it.

I guess you don't agree with that either.

[Herschel Walker]

Wow.

Sounded like he was joking around with you to me.

Somebody needs a Vicadin

[duncan228]

Wow.

Sounded like he was joking around with you to me.

Somebody needs a Vicadin

Usually if someone is joking they use an emoticon to convey that.

And I don't do drugs.

[TampaDude]

Solid game all around by the Spurs...good win...way to go, guys! :toast

[Condemned 2 HelLA]

New Jersey as a team only had 8 total assists?!?!?!?