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Fillmoe
03-03-2008, 12:42 AM
Today vs Mia 23 points 4 boards 9 dimes 3 steals 0 TO
Friday vs Dal 25 points 5 boards 5 dimes 1 block 1 TO
Wednesday vs ATL 25 points 4 boards 8 dimes 1 steal 1 TO
Tuesday vs Mia 4 points 2 boards 2 dimes 1 steal 0 TO <--- BAD GAME

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
03-03-2008, 12:46 AM
I'm guessing in Sacramento, everyone goes to clubs on Mondays?

RC's Boss
03-03-2008, 12:50 AM
Udrih is gay. His ass stays "tore up"!

TDMVPDPOY
03-03-2008, 12:52 AM
i wonder how much his going to get end of season....contract year yay

Beno Udrih
03-03-2008, 12:56 AM
:king

Beno Time (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87969)

T Park
03-03-2008, 01:01 AM
Playing big minutes on a lottery team.

Theres been lots of players like him.

TDMVPDPOY
03-03-2008, 01:06 AM
his posting up numbers that bibby was posting pre-injury

mob
03-03-2008, 01:09 AM
tpark would take beno back faster then he can finish a double-cheeseburger

timvp
03-03-2008, 01:37 AM
Beno is pretty decent as a starter but sucked at a reserve, even with the Kings. For whatever reason, he just can't play off the bench.

The only mistake the Spurs made regarding Beno was trading him when he value was at its lowest -- which has become too common of a theme for the Spurs in the Buford Era.

Pistons < Spurs
03-03-2008, 01:41 AM
Today vs Mia 23 points 4 boards 9 dimes 3 steals 0 TO ...........Loss
Friday vs Dal 25 points 5 boards 5 dimes 1 block 1 TO ............Loss
Wednesday vs ATL 25 points 4 boards 8 dimes 1 steal 1 TO ............Loss
Tuesday vs Mia 4 points 2 boards 2 dimes 1 steal 0 TO <--- BAD GAME ..........Win

His individual good games, the team loses.
His poor game, the Team wins.

Interesting.

Trainwreck2100
03-03-2008, 02:04 AM
Ummm the Kings won today. You don't make any sense.

Maybe he just saw the halftime score

Pistons < Spurs
03-03-2008, 02:13 AM
Ummm the Kings won today. You don't make any sense.
oops I just looked at the opponents, and not the dates ... saw Miami on the bottom and assumed it was tonights game.

Fillmoe
03-03-2008, 02:16 AM
Today vs Mia 23 points 4 boards 9 dimes 3 steals 0 TO ...........Loss <--- WRONG
Friday vs Dal 25 points 5 boards 5 dimes 1 block 1 TO ............Loss
Wednesday vs ATL 25 points 4 boards 8 dimes 1 steal 1 TO ............Loss
Tuesday vs Mia 4 points 2 boards 2 dimes 1 steal 0 TO <--- BAD GAME ..........Win <--- WRONG!

His individual good games, the team loses.
His poor game, the Team wins.

Interesting.



you sir are an idiot!

RuffnReadyOzStyle
03-03-2008, 04:34 AM
...and may he continue to tear shit up!!!

My best DL2 waiver wire pickup of the year, although Erik Dampier, Anthony Johnson and Kareem Rush have all been kind to me too. :D

I'm glad to see Beno making something of his talent, and not at all bitter that he's not doing it here. Pop broke his spirit, Beno wasn't strong enough, however you want to view it, he was never going to blossom here, so good luck to him elsewhere.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
03-03-2008, 04:36 AM
i wonder how much his going to get end of season....contract year yay

Someone will overpay him. I reckon the full MLE over 4 years. I hope he continues his good play and lives up to it.

Kibic
03-03-2008, 08:06 AM
Playing big minutes on a lottery team.

Theres been lots of players like him.
Yeah, I always wondered what would TP do playing big minutes on a lottery team?

SpurAddict561
03-03-2008, 08:14 AM
I always liked Beno, he just wasn't consistent enough.

WalterBenitez
03-03-2008, 09:16 AM
Beno is pretty decent as a starter but sucked at a reserve, even with the Kings. For whatever reason, he just can't play off the bench.

The only mistake the Spurs made regarding Beno was trading him when he value was at its lowest -- which has become too common of a theme for the Spurs in the Buford Era.

I agree, Beno needs to start

ata
03-03-2008, 09:27 AM
I always liked Beno, he just wasn't consistent enough.

I like how Beno plays as a starter!
I don't like how he plays off the bench, his attitude....

ancestron
03-03-2008, 10:03 AM
Trade Parker for Beno.

wildbill2u
03-03-2008, 01:45 PM
Beno is pretty decent as a starter but sucked at a reserve, even with the Kings. For whatever reason, he just can't play off the bench.

The only mistake the Spurs made regarding Beno was trading him when he value was at its lowest -- which has become too common of a theme for the Spurs in the Buford Era.
If there's one criticism I have about Pop it's that he seems to have one player in the doghouse as a sort of scapegoat every year. How many of these guys have we seen go on to productive careers elsewhere? (Hedo, Beno, etc.)

Bonner may fill that role this year. Pop essentially traded Scola to keep Bonner. And Bonner had a few nice games, but Not every role player is going to be consistent without consistent minutes. So Pop banished him to the pine forever for all practical purposes.

If one of the coach's roles is to develop younger players, they have to give them a better shot than a few minutes in a few games and then sit their asses down forever. It makes me worried about what kind of treatment Ian and Splitter will get next year.

Solid D
03-03-2008, 02:00 PM
Beno has his "+"s and "-"s.

+Beno is a good offensive player. He tore the Spurs up in the Kings' win in Sacramento this year.
+He is a very good uptempo player and can pass very well.

-He is not a good defender and this can be exploited.
-He is vulnerable to turnovers against strong on-ball defenders and traps. He coughed up the ball in a recent game, late in the game, while advancing the ball but before he reached mid-court. He succombed to double-team pressure at the worst possible time of the game.

T Park
03-03-2008, 02:02 PM
Yeah, I always wondered what would TP do playing big minutes on a lottery team?

He'd prob average a little more, but depending on the talent around him, teams could focus on him more.

Whats your point?

I hope the Beno apologists don't try and drag a "Beno is just as good as Tony parker" arguement

GSH
03-03-2008, 03:36 PM
Could this really be our little Benoh?

From the Sacramento Bee blog, March 3, 2008:

Artest seemed intent on criticizing Theus any way he could see fit afterward.
And while much of the material is in the game story, there was quite a bit more. Asked about what happened in the first half, Artest blamed it largely on his coach.
"Beno (Udrih) came out (of the game) with (one) minute to go in the first quarter, and then he sat out for like seven more minutes after that," Artest said. "So we knew when he got back in the game that we'd have a chance to win, (but) we were just wondering when was coach going to make that decision to put him back in the game?

Texas_Ranger
03-03-2008, 03:37 PM
Yeah, I always wondered what would TP do playing big minutes on a lottery team?

He would score more then Beno for sure, but not a lot more. With Artest, K-Mart and Miller on the team I say that TP would be just as good as he's now.

MajorMike
03-03-2008, 03:44 PM
Someone will overpay him. I reckon the full MLE over 4 years.

See Speedy Claxton.

oboymeetsogirl
03-03-2008, 04:00 PM
Just because a player doesn't thrive in the Spurs' system doesn't mean he won't thrive elsewhere. I don't get his games where I live, but I suspect Beno is doing great because he's a place better suited to his game. I saw a little of Devin Harris over the past few days, and it really looked to me that he's in a better place for his game in New Jersey as opposed to Dallas (never knew he can be as big a threat behind the three point line as he is slashing into the lane). Remember, guys like Bowen and Billups were kicked around for years by other teams before they got to where they are now, where they are appreciated.

I saw Beno play enough times in San Antonio -- the tentative shots, the unsteady ball handling, etc. -- to know that he really did need to be cut loose. But now I'm really glad he's found a team that can really use his talents.

Harry Callahan
03-03-2008, 04:51 PM
I saw the Dallas-Sac game last week when Beno was doing well up until the second quarter when once again he gets the ball stolen in the backcourt, the loose ball is passed to Dirk, and DN drains a long three, capping a Maverick quarter ending run that extended into the second half. Dallas went on to win the game with the momentum from that run. In other words, Beno has better stats with a bad team due to his extended playing time, but in the end, he is still not reliable when it is crunch time.

As for the Spurs trading Beno at his lowest value, it is hard to build up his value when he kept getting hurt here and letting his personal situation get him down in the mouth and at the end of the bench. The Spurs are not in the business right now of giving bench players heavy minutes to build up their confidence/value while at the same time winning 65 to 70% of their games. That is just not realistic.

Kibic
03-04-2008, 02:16 AM
I saw the Dallas-Sac game last week when Beno was doing well up until the second quarter when once again he gets the ball stolen in the backcourt, the loose ball is passed to Dirk, and DN drains a long three, capping a Maverick quarter ending run that extended into the second half. Dallas went on to win the game with the momentum from that run. In other words, Beno has better stats with a bad team due to his extended playing time, but in the end, he is still not reliable when it is crunch time.

As for the Spurs trading Beno at his lowest value, it is hard to build up his value when he kept getting hurt here and letting his personal situation get him down in the mouth and at the end of the bench. The Spurs are not in the business right now of giving bench players heavy minutes to build up their confidence/value while at the same time winning 65 to 70% of their games. That is just not realistic.

If roles were oposit so TP gets in doghouse and Beno ulimited playing time no metter how many mistakes he made...thing could look a whole lot diferent.
But Pop's job is to win championships. And from two players he decided to go with TP and Beno was just an insurance and used as a tool for building up TP's selfconfidence.

So DAL win with the momentum of Beno's TO, ok.
Are Spurs loosing games from the momentum of TP TO?

ata
03-04-2008, 05:51 AM
Exactly. Talent wise, Parker and Beno are pretty similar (each with different pros and cons), attitude makes big difference!

Bruno
03-04-2008, 06:10 AM
Udrih isn't as good as Parker talent wise and it's not even close.

hsxvvd
03-04-2008, 06:10 AM
He has definately proved to the league that he belongs in the NBA, perhaps even as a starter. As far as a big pay day, I'd say he'd have a few too many question marks, Speedy Claxton days are over... then again if Kapono gets the full MLE, Beno can shoot too and plenty of teams need a point gaurd. There isn't a lot of "young" talent in this years free agent crop last time I checked, so he has a few things going for him.

ata
03-04-2008, 07:14 AM
Udrih isn't as good as Parker talent wise and it's not even close.
Hmm, I wouldn't be so sure.
In younger years, where talent prevail hard work, Udrih was sometimes even considered as better.
And they are different type of players even though they play in the same position - either has pros and cons.

It is attitude where Beno is not even close to Parker, however if Spurs would has landed Kidd, who knows?

Bruno
03-04-2008, 08:00 AM
Hmm, I wouldn't be so sure.
In younger years, where talent prevail hard work, Udrih was sometimes even considered as better.


Evaluating the nba talent of a player by looking at what he does at 18 years old in european basketball is really hard.
Some players aren't made for the nba, some players aren't playing at their real possibility, some players are still playing at their whole potential. The result of this is that there are draft busts and draft steals.

At 18, James White was projected to be a top5 draft pick. Would you say that he is more talented than Parker ?

ata
03-04-2008, 08:04 AM
Good point.

Nevertheless, I rather have Parker in my team as Udrih - at the end of the day, talent isn't everything.

bigfan
03-04-2008, 09:32 AM
Beno is a serviceable point guard with plenty of flaws. I dont think his talent level is anywhere near Tony Parker. I think Parker is clearly one of the top five PGs in the league.

Kibic
03-04-2008, 09:32 AM
Evaluating the nba talent of a player by looking at what he does at 18 years old in european basketball is really hard.
Some players aren't made for the nba, some players aren't playing at their real possibility, some players are still playing at their whole potential. The result of this is that there are draft busts and draft steals.

At 18, James White was projected to be a top5 draft pick. Would you say that he is more talented than Parker ?
Have to agree with you. When I look at Greece:USA game on WC...plenty of NBA stars in their best years and Greece "never heard's" kicked stars asses...incomparable...
:smokin

Of coarse, NBA players, in 2 weeks, didn't adjust to shorter distance for 3's and keep on hitting into the board. It wasn't fair.

Kibic
03-04-2008, 09:37 AM
Beno is a serviceable point guard with plenty of flaws. I dont think his talent level is anywhere near Tony Parker. I think Parker is clearly one of the top five PGs in the league.
Of coarse.
:dramaquee
Being a Kings starting PG isn't "anywhere near" to being a Spurs starting PG. Each and every this season game is prove of that.

angel_luv
03-04-2008, 10:20 AM
Today vs Mia 23 points 4 boards 9 dimes 3 steals 0 TO
Friday vs Dal 25 points 5 boards 5 dimes 1 block 1 TO
Wednesday vs ATL 25 points 4 boards 8 dimes 1 steal 1 TO



Well done Beno! :)

K-State Spur
03-04-2008, 11:37 AM
Hmm, I wouldn't be so sure.
In younger years, where talent prevail hard work, Udrih was sometimes even considered as better.
And they are different type of players even though they play in the same position - either has pros and cons.

It is attitude where Beno is not even close to Parker, however if Spurs would has landed Kidd, who knows?

Udrih had games where he literally could not get the ball past halfcourt against the defender. That wasn't a confidence issue. That's also a minor requirement that most teams have for their PG.

Kibic
03-04-2008, 12:18 PM
Udrih had games where he literally could not get the ball past halfcourt against the defender. That wasn't a confidence issue. That's also a minor requirement that most teams have for their PG.
Did he? Has TP ever win a game where Beno was on other side?

ata
03-04-2008, 12:18 PM
Udrih had games where he literally could not get the ball past halfcourt against the defender. That wasn't a confidence issue. That's also a minor requirement that most teams have for their PG.
:sleep

And Parker has been assist machine I guess, also just a minor requirement for PG

I don't want to sound as Beno's homer, since I am not, however if you see in Beno only as a choker, look again

K-State Spur
03-04-2008, 01:01 PM
:sleep

And Parker has been assist machine I guess, also just a minor requirement for PG

I don't want to sound as Beno's homer, since I am not, however if you see in Beno only as a choker, look again

Actually, in our offense, the PG is never going to consistently put up Nash/Kidd assist totals. About 6/game is what should be hoped for, and that's right where Parker's at.

I'm not a Udrih hater, I just firmly believe there are 2 complete misnomers used on this board:

a) That he never got a chance with the Spurs.
b) More recently, that he's anywhere near the talent that Parker is.

K-State Spur
03-04-2008, 01:03 PM
Did he? Has TP ever win a game where Beno was on other side?

yeah, terrific sample size you're working with there.

Kibic
03-04-2008, 04:20 PM
yeah, terrific sample size you're working with there.
What do you mean? How big is your "sample" of not being able to get the ball past half court? And more important, under what circumstances?

ChumpDumper
03-04-2008, 04:24 PM
:lol @ pretending there could have ever been serious consideration given to playing Beno more than Parker.

K-State Spur
03-04-2008, 05:39 PM
What do you mean? How big is your "sample" of not being able to get the ball past half court? And more important, under what circumstances?

if you have one game (let alone 2 in the Finals) where you can't get past halfcourt vs. a one man press, that's too many.

as i said, i'm not hating on him, he's found his niche.

but saying he's equal talent to parker is one of the more laughable things to be posted on this board in a long time.

Pero
03-04-2008, 06:23 PM
Well that's funny because I seem to remember people here saying he has the same level or more talent than Parker before. I think even Timvp said it.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
03-04-2008, 08:19 PM
Comparing Beno and TP is a travesty - please stop right now. TP is a proven player who may well be the best pure penetrator in the league, who survived the baptism of fire Pop put him through, and has improved his game each year he has played up to this one. He is an All-Star and a Finals MVP. Beno is a decent PG on a lottery team.

InK
03-04-2008, 09:19 PM
Actually, in our offense, the PG is never going to consistently put up Nash/Kidd assist totals. About 6/game is what should be hoped for, and that's right where Parker's at.
Sure, we can say that. We could also admit that Nash/ Kidd, etc.. just do a better job providing for their teamates in that respect.


I'm not a Udrih hater, I just firmly believe there are 2 complete misnomers used on this board:

a) That he never got a chance with the Spurs.
b) More recently, that he's anywhere near the talent that Parker is.

I don't think anyone, including the slovenians still left posting here (after the exodus :hungry:) are living in a dreamland regarding Udrih's potential and his realization of that potential. We are all aware that he got his chance with the spurs and blew it. And it doesnt really matter why, that problem was shipped away with Udrih.

People here seem to think that comparing Parker's and Udrih's talent is almost a blasphemy. I dont get that, noone is suggesting Udrih is a better player then Parker ( or anywhere close to him). But saying Udrih is not freaking talented is almost as absurd as the "Udrih > Parker" threads 3 years ago. One of the main reasons why everyboy was so frustrated about Udrih is because he was so talented; to such an extend we all knew he could have played a lot better. But he didnt...

Mr. Body
03-04-2008, 09:45 PM
Teams wouldn't give up much for Scola or Udrih, because they didn't think them worth much. Now they're tearing it up a bit, showing the Spurs did have some talent.

Except now the Spurs have no similar assets to trade. Except Mahinmi. Should they wish to trade off Mahinmi, their success might bring up the price a bit.

itzsoweezee
03-04-2008, 11:52 PM
beno is playing like a superstar against the lakers. and he's not timid at all against the pressure.

K-State Spur
03-05-2008, 01:10 AM
Sure, we can say that. We could also admit that Nash/ Kidd, etc.. just do a better job providing for their teamates in that respect.


Of course they do. Nobody is comparing Parker as a passer to Nash, Kidd, or Paul.

But, even those 3 would see a drop-off in their assist numbers if they played in an offense where they would have to play in the system more than just 'wing-it'. Look at how Avery has had to change things up to adapt to Kidd.

Kibic
03-05-2008, 11:59 AM
if you have one game (let alone 2 in the Finals) where you can't get past halfcourt vs. a one man press, that's too many.

as i said, i'm not hating on him, he's found his niche.

but saying he's equal talent to parker is one of the more laughable things to be posted on this board in a long time.

Now this is ok and completely diferent than:



b) More recently, that he's anywhere near the talent that Parker is.

K-State Spur
03-05-2008, 12:54 PM
Now this is ok and completely diferent than:

No, I'm not backing off that. He's nowhere near Tony's talent level.

Obstructed_View
03-05-2008, 01:21 PM
Beno turned the ball over against the Rockets, though. And don't forget when he couldn't bring the ball up against Detroit. He sucks.

kace
03-05-2008, 01:40 PM
Udrih at the same level as Parker ??? :dramaquee :rolleyes

because he made three good games ?? :wtf

his stats this year, his best year in NBA : 12.5 ppg 4.3 apg 45 % FG. always a weak defender.

Parker, on an usual level for him and despite having played a lot of games injured or back in rythm:

18.5 ppg 5.8 apg 49 % FG. always a decent defender, even very good at staying in front of his man, not allowing open looks.


We all know there are some Parker haters and that they wait any occasion to bash TP. but sometimes the level of dishonesty they reach is simply stupidity.

Obstructed_View
03-05-2008, 01:56 PM
Tony Parker has started one fewer game this season than Beno has his entire career. Not even worthy of comparison, but Beno is certainly far better than many on this board ever gave him credit for.

That said, I'm really glad he's doing well - for someone other than the Spurs.

kace
03-05-2008, 02:39 PM
Tony Parker has started one fewer game this season than Beno has his entire career. Not even worthy of comparison, but Beno is certainly far better than many on this board ever gave him credit for.

That said, I'm really glad he's doing well - for someone other than the Spurs.

Beno is a good basketball player.No doubt about it.The most talented backup PG we had for a long time. Qualities very different from parker's ones. that made him very interesting as a TP backup. It simply didn't work. nothing against him.

He simply can't be compared at Parker considering their respective NBA career. not the same category of player. and the usual shit from the TP's haters is boring.

Obstructed_View
03-05-2008, 02:46 PM
He simply can't be compared at Parker considering their respective NBA career. not the same category of player. and the usual shit from the TP's haters is boring.
It has less to do with that than game experience and work ethic. Parker is better than Beno because he has more experience, and he earned the PT through hard work. Beno doesn't have the time to be able to make any kid of comparison. We'll revisit the conversation in two years. Beno could be an all star or he could be at a club back home spending his guaranteed money on drinks and fast food. Beno wasn't ever going to be what he currently is as a Spur under any circumstances other than a coaching change.

sendman
03-06-2008, 05:46 AM
It has less to do with that than game experience and work ethic. Parker is better than Beno because he has more experience, and he earned the PT through hard work. Beno doesn't have the time to be able to make any kid of comparison. We'll revisit the conversation in two years. Beno could be an all star or he could be at a club back home spending his guaranteed money on drinks and fast food. Beno wasn't ever going to be what he currently is as a Spur under any circumstances other than a coaching change.
I see your view is not obstructed anymore. I agree with you completely.
:clap

Obstructed_View
03-06-2008, 06:36 AM
I see your view is not obstructed anymore. I agree with you completely.
:clap
So my views are only valid when you agree with them? Wow, I can't tell you how much I value your approval. Or maybe I just did.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
03-06-2008, 06:47 AM
It has less to do with that than game experience and work ethic. Parker is better than Beno because he has more experience, and he earned the PT through hard work. Beno doesn't have the time to be able to make any kid of comparison. We'll revisit the conversation in two years. Beno could be an all star or he could be at a club back home spending his guaranteed money on drinks and fast food. Beno wasn't ever going to be what he currently is as a Spur under any circumstances other than a coaching change.

Exactly.

And good luck to him.

ploto
03-06-2008, 09:39 AM
I am just wondering where all the people went who said Beno did not even belong in the NBA- that no NBA team would ever even want him. I am looking forward to seeing him play in SA soon.

K-State Spur
03-06-2008, 01:04 PM
I am just wondering where all the people went who said Beno did not even belong in the NBA- that no NBA team would ever even want him. I am looking forward to seeing him play in SA soon.

those people were obviously wrong.

but in terms of back-up PG on a championship team:

vaughn >>>>> beno

(and it's not like teams were banging down the spurs door to trade for beno either)

Kibic
03-07-2008, 01:39 AM
those people were obviously wrong.

but in terms of back-up PG on a championship team:

vaughn >>>>> beno

(and it's not like teams were banging down the spurs door to trade for beno either)
Never hear from Udrih he want to be a back-up PG or back-up to TP. How could one be motivated if he is used for teaching and proving other players how they shouldn't play or do?

I claim, almost any player, newcomer in team, Spurs, with Pop as coach (do not say that is not ok) with TP in front of him would be used in same way. Good team will always need a PG who knows he will not be replaced (long term) if he make a mistake. And TP did not have nowbody in front of him. No metter how many mistakes, TO, whatever he make. Who would play if he was replaced?

Obstructed_View
03-07-2008, 02:18 AM
those people were obviously wrong.

but in terms of back-up PG on a championship team:

vaughn >>>>> beno

(and it's not like teams were banging down the spurs door to trade for beno either)
And in terms of back-up PG on the Spurs:

Nobody >>>>>>> beno.

And I don't mean that nobody is better than he is, I mean that not having anybody is better than having him. Again, I'm glad he's doing well. Almost as glad as I am that he's gone.

ata
03-07-2008, 03:02 AM
Never hear from Udrih he want to be a back-up PG or back-up to TP. How could one be motivated if he is used for teaching and proving other players how they shouldn't play or do?

I claim, almost any player, newcomer in team, Spurs, with Pop as coach (do not say that is not ok) with TP in front of him would be used in same way. Good team will always need a PG who knows he will not be replaced (long term) if he make a mistake. And TP did not have nowbody in front of him. No metter how many mistakes, TO, whatever he make. Who would play if he was replaced?
You have a point, however Pop didn't make it easy for TP.
Nevertheless, that doesn't excuse Beno to play like a scrub when coming of the bench. See King's games with Bibby starting.

PS: doghousing and NVE experiment didn't help either, still this should be no excuse.

ploto
03-07-2008, 10:33 AM
Udrih has case for long stay
The guard shines in Sacramento after Minnesota cut him quickly.

It was only 10 minutes. And as Beno Udrih saw it, it wasn't a pleasant 10 minutes.

Before the point guard became the rising star in Sacramento, signing with the Kings on Nov. 1 as an emergency fill-in for the injured Mike Bibby and beginning his career anew four years in, he was a member of the Minnesota Timberwolves.

A welcome trade from San Antonio had landed him with the T-wolves on Oct. 29, but just as Udrih prepared to stay afloat in the Land of 10,000 Lakes, he was cut. Set free, really.

"My agent told me I'd have to fly to Minnesota the next day," said Udrih, who signed a one-year contract with the Kings for the league minimum of $826,046. "He had called the general manager or somebody (in the Timberwolves' front office), and he said, 'Yeah, we want to see what Beno is going to bring to the table.'

"And then, 10 minutes later, they waived me."

Udrih sought a setting in which playing time would be plentiful and competition minimal, and Minnesota obviously was not it. At point guard, the T-wolves had the well-respected Randy Foye, the seventh overall draft pick in 2006; Sebastian Telfair, the 13th overall pick of the 2004 draft with plenty to play for; and established veteran reserve Marko Jaric.

Udrih, who spent so much of his first three seasons dreaming of big minutes with the Spurs while playing behind Tony Parker and, in the later years, Jacque Vaughn, was concerned.

"They had a bunch of guards … so I was really not sure about going (to Minnesota)," Udrih said. "I was not happy about that trade. But still, it was a young team, and I just told myself that they were going to need some players. That's what I was telling myself.

"Ten minutes later, my agent says they waived me."

The outcome, of course, has fallen largely in Udrih's favor. Minnesota enters Arco Arena tonight with the second-worst record in the NBA (12-48), unable to know how different things would have been if Udrih had stayed.

The day after the Timberwolves waived Udrih, they learned Foye had a stress reaction in his kneecap. Foye missed the season's first 43 games. Ironically, Timberwolves vice president of basketball operations Kevin McHale told Minnesota media that his questions about Udrih's durability were a factor in his decision to cut the guard.

"When you do your investigation, I guess the biggest concern I had was that (San Antonio) really felt that, injury-wise, he had been hurt quite a bit," McHale said. "You're (thinking), Well, we've got unknowns right now (on the roster). I don't think we were in a situation where we were willing to bring in two unknowns. We already had Sebastian here."

Meanwhile, Udrih has played well enough in Sacramento to earn a nickname. "The Tasmanian Slovenian," so named by Kings television personality and team director of player personnel Jerry Reynolds, has been on quite a tear in the last five games.

In that span, Udrih has averaged 22.6 points and 5.8 assists while shooting 56.5 percent from the field and continuing to prove himself. When the Kings traded Bibby to Atlanta on Feb. 16, Udrih's emergence was no small part of the equation.

His impending free agency this summer meant the Kings would most certainly lose Udrih if Bibby had remained, and Udrih's early play had intrigued the Kings' front office more than enough to warrant a closer look at the situation.

And it appears Udrih, 25, could be here for years to come. This summer, the Kings will be in a position to offer part or all of their midlevel exception (approximately $6 million) to retain Udrih. The chance the Kings gave him after his 10-minute Minnesota stay, Udrih said, will not be forgotten.

"This is the team that gave me an opportunity to show myself," he said. "I'm really happy here. I like it. We'll see what comes at the end."


http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/767573.html

I know Spurs fans do not want to hear it but many Kings fans really like Beno alot.

ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
03-07-2008, 11:29 AM
"They had a bunch of guards … so I was really not sure about going (to Minnesota)," Udrih said. "I was not happy about that trade. But still, it was a young team, and I just told myself that they were going to need some players. That's what I was telling myself.
:lol What an underachiever. Guy doesn't want to compete for his spot.

ChumpDumper
03-07-2008, 11:39 AM
I know Spurs fans do not want to hear it but many Kings fans really like Beno alot.
I LOVE hearing that.

It means Beno isn't coming back to the Spurs!

K-State Spur
03-07-2008, 11:42 AM
Never hear from Udrih he want to be a back-up PG or back-up to TP. How could one be motivated if he is used for teaching and proving other players how they shouldn't play or do?
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Who cares what he wanted? That's what he was being paid to do.

How was he used for teaching? Pop wanted him to come in and play with energy, hustle, and get the team into their offense. Now, maybe that was asking far too much, but I don't think so.

InK
03-08-2008, 08:55 AM
This summer, the Kings will be in a position to offer part or all of their midlevel exception (approximately $6 million) to retain Udrih.

I dont think anyone wants to be in a "position" of paying Beno paying 6m per. The thought alone is scary.