Dallas- Mcfadden or Barber?

[DBryant88]

Dallas is in a bit of a dilemma right now. Do they keep Barber and trade for a another first round pick so they can pick up McFadden or do they keep Barber and search for another back in the draft?

[peewee's lovechild]

I don't want to trade up for McFadden.

Barber is a solid back, all we need to do is find someone who will split carries with him.
We can draft Felix Jones, who's as good as McFadden and will cost less.

[samikeyp]

I would say go with Barber only because so far he is a proven commodity.

[stretch]

I'd say keep Barber, go after Moss, and draft someone lower, like Peewee said, perhaps Felix Jones.

[samikeyp]

I'd say keep Barber, go after Moss, and draft someone lower, like Peewee said, perhaps Felix Jones.

:tu

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:tu
Seriously... the thought of an offense with Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Patrick Crayton, and Jason Whitten as your recieving crew... is fucking terrifying. Completely blows away the Patriots crew.

Moss=Moss
Owens >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stallworth
Glenn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welker (most overrated WR in the NFL)
Crayton > Gaffney
Whitten >>>>>>>> Watson

[macdude06]

do not trade both 1st to move up...we need a solid corner like cromartie..and then draft a guy like mendenhall or stewert...

[Evan]

I'd say keep Barber, go after Moss, and draft someone lower, like Peewee said, perhaps Felix Jones.

Ok but what about TO?

[ATRAIN]

Seriously... the thought of an offense with Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Patrick Crayton, and Jason Whitten as your recieving crew... is fucking terrifying. Completely blows away the Patriots crew.

Moss=Moss
Owens >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stallworth
Glenn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welker (most overrated WR in the NFL)
Crayton > Gaffney
Whitten >>>>>>>> Watson


That would never happen. Moss and TO could not co-exist, plus one would have to give up the number and that in itself would create problems.

[samikeyp]

That would never happen. Moss and TO could not co-exist, plus one would have to give up the number and that in itself would create problems.

As long as the team is winning, everyone would be happy.

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That would never happen. Moss and TO could not co-exist, plus one would have to give up the number and that in itself would create problems.
I disagree.

I think winning is the key for them to stay happy. This team will still be winning. Plus, they are both coming to the end of their careers. They know that they will be judged ultimately by championships, and they need one bad. They have plenty of money, they have the stats, and they are both locks for the HOF. Now they need the ring.

And what are you talking about giving up a number? Moss was 84 in Minny. 18 in Oakland (had no problem with the fact that Jerry Porter already had 84, and just went ahead and changed to 18). 81 in New England. I don't think that he would really care that much about his number. Do your research before making groundless accusations like that.

[BacktoBasics]

Winning in the past has never kept their mouths shut sans this season but both caught a ton of balls and won. I'm not so sure I'd sacrifce balls to Witten to keep either of these guys content, it'd be too predictable.

I don't mind moving up for McFadden as long as it doesn't cost them Barber. I see no reason to move him.

[ATRAIN]

I disagree.

I think winning is the key for them to stay happy. This team will still be winning. Plus, they are both coming to the end of their careers. They know that they will be judged ultimately by championships, and they need one bad. They have plenty of money, they have the stats, and they are both locks for the HOF. Now they need the ring.

And what are you talking about giving up a number? Moss was 84 in Minny. 18 in Oakland (had no problem with the fact that Jerry Porter already had 84, and just went ahead and changed to 18). 81 in New England. I don't think that he would really care that much about his number. Do your research before making groundless accusations like that.


Accusation, it was more like an opinion so calm the fuck down. I just don't see it happening, TO wants to win yes, but at what cost? He couldn't share the light with Moss. As far as the number goes I was just throwing that out there as an extra excuse, so players the number matters, others it doesnt chill the fuck down.

[Herschel Walker]

It's not McFadden vs. Barber. It's McFadden with approx. $65 million contract as #1 overall pick vs. Barber with 2 mid to late 1st rounders. Tying up that much salary in one RB is crazy given the needs that could be met with that money and those picks. It's about scarcity of resources and law of diminishing returns. That's also why I question the resigning of Flozell.

[Fillmoe]

Seriously... the thought of an offense with Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Patrick Crayton, and Jason Whitten as your recieving crew... is fucking terrifying. Completely blows away the Patriots crew.

Moss=Moss
Owens >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stallworth
Glenn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welker (most overrated WR in the NFL)
Crayton > Gaffney
Whitten >>>>>>>> Watson


brady >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homo

[peewee's lovechild]

brady is a homo

[BacktoBasics]

Dunn would be a nice compliment to Barber.

[Spuradicator]

DMac is just not worth the price. Plus you just got to see what Marion can do if he gets 18-24 carries a game. We just need someone to pick someone up to carry the ball 8-10 times a game. I like Felix Jones.

[Harry Callahan]

McFadden runs high and has a tendency to fumble. For what it would cost in players and or drafts picks used to address other needs - not worth it.

Given the depth of the draft in running backs and receivers, I think DC should dangle a #1 pick again for a high #2 and a #1 next year. Hopefully, the team dealing will crash and burn unlike Cleveland last year.

[stretch]

Accusation, it was more like an opinion so calm the fuck down. I just don't see it happening, TO wants to win yes, but at what cost? He couldn't share the light with Moss. As far as the number goes I was just throwing that out there as an extra excuse, so players the number matters, others it doesnt chill the fuck down.
I wasn't mad. I just felt that it was stupid that of all the things for you to pick on, you say that he will get butthurt over not having the number 81, when in fact, he has only had that number for one year in his career.

I think it is you, who needs to calm down. I presented facts to you. Present me some facts, or shut it.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Fuck McFadden.

[Spuradicator]

Accusation, it was more like an opinion so calm the fuck down. I just don't see it happening, TO wants to win yes, but at what cost? He couldn't share the light with Moss. As far as the number goes I was just throwing that out there as an extra excuse, so players the number matters, others it doesnt chill the fuck down.


:rolleyes Looks like you need to calm down.

[redraiderinfiji]

mcfadden and moss are never going to happen

too less of a spotlight for too many hogs!

[ChuckD]

Dunn would be a nice compliment to Barber.
Dunn is Done. His fifteen minutes were over 5 years ago.

[ChuckD]

do not trade both 1st to move up...we need a solid corner like cromartie..and then draft a guy like mendenhall or stewert...
Cromartie is now projected to be in the top 10 picks after the combine. Try again.

[StylisticS]

While I would like to have Cromartie. He's not coming here. I want Mendenhall too and he's not coming here. However, Talib from KU is not a bad alternative to Cromartie. Pick him up at 22. We are in desperate need of a 3rd corner, folks.

[Evan]

Both

[Brutalis]

I don't want to trade up for McFadden.

Barber is a solid back, all we need to do is find someone who will split carries with him.
We can draft Felix Jones, who's as good as McFadden and will cost less.
You might have a shot at Jones but he is not Darren McFadden dude.

[monosylab1k]

We can draft Felix Jones, who's as good as McFadden and will cost less.
spoken like someone who hasn't watched a Razorbacks game in over 3 years.

[peewee's lovechild]

spoken like someone who hasn't watched a Razorbacks game in over 3 years.


Stat Overview Rushing Receiving Fumbles
YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
2005 99 626 6.3 80 3 8 100 12.5 23 0 0 0
2006 154 1168 7.6 85 6 15 107 7.1 29 3 0 0
2007 133 1162 8.7 73 11 16 176 11.0 41 0 0 0


This is what he did as a back-up as a Razorback.

I'll take that.

[samikeyp]

IMO not as good as McFadden but would be a great fit for Dallas. Maybe actually better than McFadden. D-Mac is a #1 back, Dallas has one of those, they need a good complementary back which Jones has proven he can be.

[monosylab1k]

Stat Overview Rushing Receiving Fumbles
YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
2005 99 626 6.3 80 3 8 100 12.5 23 0 0 0
2006 154 1168 7.6 85 6 15 107 7.1 29 3 0 0
2007 133 1162 8.7 73 11 16 176 11.0 41 0 0 0


This is what he did as a back-up as a Razorback.

I'll take that.
So you'll take Wes Welker over Randy Moss because he had more catches?

There's a reason Wes Welker had a great year as a slot receiver, and there's a reason Felix Jones had a great career at Arkansas as a change of pace back - they both had a gamebreaker lining up with them to take away the attention of the defense.

To say Felix Jones is as good as McFadden is about as ignorant as it gets.

[monosylab1k]

IMO not as good as McFadden but would be a great fit for Dallas. Maybe actually better than McFadden. D-Mac is a #1 back, Dallas has one of those, they need a good complementary back which Jones has proven he can be.
Felix Jones is a great fit, and he's exactly what the Cowboys need - a change of pace speed back who is most effective in his first 10 carries. He doesn't need a "warm up" period to get into the flow of the game, and I would agree that he's probably a better fit for Dallas, if you're commited to Barber being the feature back.

But he's nowhere near the complete back that McFadden is, and he can't dominate a game the way McFadden can.

[peewee's lovechild]

So you'll take Wes Welker over Randy Moss because he had more catches?

There's a reason Wes Welker had a great year as a slot receiver, and there's a reason Felix Jones had a great career at Arkansas as a change of pace back - they both had a gamebreaker lining up with them to take away the attention of the defense.

To say Felix Jones is as good as McFadden is about as ignorant as it gets.

Tom Brady was backup to Brian Griese for two years in college.

So, by your rationale, Brady should suck ass and Griese should be the star.

[monosylab1k]

Tom Brady was backup to Brian Griese for two years in college.

So, by your rationale, Brady should suck ass and Griese should be the star.
So Tom Brady as a freshman/sophomore is supposed to beat out a highly touted junior/senior who would lead his team to a NC? McFadden/Jones are both juniors.

Get back to me when you know what the fuck you're talking about. Or just go post in the Quattro cuz you've proven your football stupidity yet again.

[yavozerb]

Mcfadden is by far the better back...I think a good comparison would be in minny where you have a good back like chester taylor who can grind out yards, but then you have peterson who can take the distance everytime he touches the ball..Mcfadden is def. a guy who has the chance of breaking a long run evertime he is handed the ball.

[peewee's lovechild]

So Tom Brady as a freshman/sophomore is supposed to beat out a highly touted junior/senior who would lead his team to a NC? McFadden/Jones are both juniors.

Get back to me when you know what the fuck you're talking about. Or just go post in the Quattro cuz you've proven your football stupidity yet again.

But, he was a back up.

Back ups suck.

[samikeyp]

But he's nowhere near the complete back that McFadden is, and he can't dominate a game the way McFadden can.

Agreed, even though McFadden has yet to prove that on Sundays.

Although I have a feeling we won't have to wait too long to see that.

[johngateswhiteley]

Seriously... the thought of an offense with Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Patrick Crayton, and Jason Whitten as your recieving crew... is fucking terrifying. Completely blows away the Patriots crew.

Moss=Moss
Owens >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stallworth
Glenn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welker (most overrated WR in the NFL)
Crayton > Gaffney
Whitten >>>>>>>> Watson

Welker isn't overrated.

[johngateswhiteley]

i think it would be idiotic for the cowboys to trade up for mcfadden, especially if that involves getting rid of barber...whom, imo, is/will be a better back than mcfadden. when i first heard of the trade idea i was like, "wtf?" a bird in the hand, my friend, a bird in the hand...

...anyway, i hate the cowboys so whatever.

[katyon6th]

McFadden could be a bust in the NFL. It could happen, look at Reggie Bush. Barber has proven himself. Dallas would be stupid to let him go right now.