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Louie Vega
03-09-2008, 02:09 AM
Win vs. Spurs would be 'huge' for Suns


Doug Haller
The Arizona Republic
Mar. 8, 2008 06:55 PM

Throughout their struggles, the Suns have insisted that they're better built for the postseason. Shaquille O'Neal provides a defensive presence, a half-court anchor, a championship vision.

Those theories will be tested Sunday afternoon in ways that they haven't in the past. As defending champs, the San Antonio Spurs present another obstacle, but also an opportunity.

If the Suns lose, they are following the same flight plan that has unfolded since they acquired O'Neal. They have lost six of their past nine games, sliding into sixth place in the Western Conference postseason race.


But if the Suns win, perspective changes slightly. After all, any team that beats the Spurs, who have won 15 of their past 17, has a license to believe that better days are ahead.

"Big," is how Mike D'Antoni classified the 12:30 p.m. tipoff at US Airways Center. "Because it turns the mood around a little bit. . . . It would be huge if we could win."

The Suns coach made no promises, but the frustration stemming from Friday's 126-118 home loss to Utah had evaporated by the end of Saturday's light practice.

Despite the Suns' stumbles, D'Antoni remains encouraged. Yes, the game film revealed defensive flaws, but it was nothing that D'Antoni said couldn't be fixed.

He said the Suns lack mental discipline. Knowing when to help. Remembering the game plan. Avoiding fouls during the shot clock's final seconds.

Against teams such as Utah, Dallas and San Antonio, success boils down to four or five shots, D'Antoni said. And recently, the Suns have made those opportunities much too easy for opponents.

"Sometimes we play too hard," D'Antoni said. "We get too anxious, and we overrun things and get ourselves in trouble. We're not a great defensive team. We know that, (but) sometimes you try too hard. We get ourselves into a position where you think, 'You know what? It would've been better if you just laid back there.' "

The statistics are ugly: Since O'Neal's insertion, the Suns have given up 113.2 points per game. Opponents are shooting 50.4 percent. On Friday, the Jazz made 12 of 16 shots in the fourth quarter. All four misses came in a two-minute span. Over the final 6:29, Utah did not miss a shot, sinking 6 of 6 from the field and 10 of 10 from the foul line.

Still, the Suns saw improvement. Two days after O'Neal's arrival, assistant coach Dan D'Antoni said it would take at least a month before everyone felt comfortable. He hasn't changed his mind. The Suns still are thinking instead of reacting, he said. "And anybody in sports will tell you that if you're thinking about what you're doing, you're done."

In the past, the Suns had to rush in and help stop a slasher or penetrating guard. With O'Neal in place, they have yet to fully realize that it's all right for an opponent to attempt a running floater over a 7-foot-1 center. On Friday, after guard Leandro Barbosa fouled a Utah player near the basket, D'Antoni told him: "Don't do that. You take him to the big man, and you let him go."

D'Antoni's assessment: "Our defense was horrible early because everybody was thinking, 'Where do we go? What do we do?' We were confused. Since then it has steadily improved. I think (Friday) night was definitely our best game. By far."

The statistics don't agree, nor do the results, but the Suns seem to accept that, as long as they progress. As guard Steve Nash pointed out, they are not a finished product.

"We need to play out these last 20 games and see where we stand," he said. "We know we're going to be a lot better 20 games from now. . . . We just hope we're still in the playoff picture as we go through these growing pains."



http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/0308suns.html

Princess Pimp
03-09-2008, 02:38 AM
Expect a win for the Suns today! I guarantee it! :clap

Bianconera
03-09-2008, 02:47 AM
Actually, I respect Steve Nash. He's a great player. I think all basketball fans should respect him for his spirits. (Of course, you don't have to love him.)
But maybe it's bound to be his personal tragedy that he may never get a ring, for he plays for the wrong team which is far less great as he is. :downspin:

Cry Havoc
03-09-2008, 03:00 AM
Actually, I respect Steve Nash. He's a great player. I think all basketball fans should respect him for his spirits. (Of course, you don't have to love him.)
But maybe it's bound to be his personal tragedy that he may never get a ring, for he plays for the wrong team which is far less great as he is. :downspin:

He was a little pissant last year about the suspensions. He showed a complete lack of character when he stated that his team would have won had it not been for Stern.

I don't mind Steve Nash, but he doesn't have the mentality of a winner. He focuses on what could have happened instead of leading his team over adversity.

mojorizen7
03-09-2008, 03:42 AM
He was a little pissant last year about the suspensions. He showed a complete lack of character when he stated that his team would have won had it not been for Stern.

I don't mind Steve Nash, but he doesn't have the mentality of a winner. He focuses on what could have happened instead of leading his team over adversity.
In reality i would characterize Nash's reaction to the questionable suspension's as "bitter."
Nash is willing to take the big shot and willing to take the heat when he comes up short, i believe that's the mentality of a winner.
Having said that, IMO he's not the type of player who can handle carrying the weight of title expectations on his shoulders like a Magic,Bird,Jordan,Olajuwon,Duncan etc...
The SUNS will reach a crossroads when they play the SPURS tomorrow.
It's time to sink or swim without excuses(D'Antoni) and i expect a hard fought game on both sides.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
03-09-2008, 03:49 AM
Expect a win for the Suns today! I guarantee it! :clap

Expectations inevitably lead to disappointment.

TDMVPDPOY
03-09-2008, 05:14 AM
Suns are better off putting shaq to the end of the bench and return to smallball to save there season.

But i dont see them winning this one, cause Duncan loves SNAQ OATMEAL for breakfast lunch and tea

WalterBenitez
03-09-2008, 07:17 AM
Expectations inevitably lead to disappointment.


I can see many people frustrated at this afternoon, let's see what happens.

1Parker1
03-09-2008, 07:37 AM
Big game for both teams. Suns are going to come at the Spurs with 110% effort. Spurs losing 2 in a row will not be good for their standings in the WC.

Suns know if they win this, all the previous losses with Shaq would be worth it to gain confidence in knowing they may finally be able to beat the Spurs.

Obstructed_View
03-09-2008, 08:36 AM
In reality i would characterize Nash's reaction to the questionable suspension's as "bitter."
Since the suspensions weren't in any way questionable, and the punishment was exactly as the rule states for the infraction, and since the Suns lost game 1 on their home floor with nobody suspended, I'd characterize his continued blame of the suspensions on anything as "whining".


Nash is willing to take the big shot and willing to take the heat when he comes up short, i believe that's the mentality of a winner.
Having said that, IMO he's not the type of player who can handle carrying the weight of title expectations on his shoulders like a Magic,Bird,Jordan,Olajuwon,Duncan etc...
The SUNS will reach a crossroads when they play the SPURS tomorrow.
It's time to sink or swim without excuses(D'Antoni) and i expect a hard fought game on both sides.

Nash has always been willing to take the big shot, but the fact that he blames the suspensions when he comes up short shows the mentality of a loser. The Suns aren't at a crossroads, they are in a downright freefall. If the Spurs want to consider themselves a championship contender this season they have no excuse not to blow this Suns team out early, particularly coming off a bad loss and facing a B2B tomorrow.

Harry Callahan
03-09-2008, 08:55 AM
In reality i would characterize Nash's reaction to the questionable suspension's as "bitter."
Nash is willing to take the big shot and willing to take the heat when he comes up short, i believe that's the mentality of a winner.
Having said that, IMO he's not the type of player who can handle carrying the weight of title expectations on his shoulders like a Magic,Bird,Jordan,Olajuwon,Duncan etc...
The SUNS will reach a crossroads when they play the SPURS tomorrow.
It's time to sink or swim without excuses(D'Antoni) and i expect a hard fought game on both sides.

The Suns fate will not be determined today either way. However, they give no indication that they have the ability to win three or four series in the playoffs. They are less effective now offensively and defensively.

Steve Kerr will be a convenient scapegoat for Sarver..

SequSpur
03-09-2008, 10:17 AM
wgaf

TampaDude
03-09-2008, 10:24 AM
I had originally penciled this one in as a close loss for the Spurs, but after the debacle in Denver on Friday night, I predict the Spurs will come out pissed and lay a beating on the Suns. Spurs by 14.

DarrinS
03-09-2008, 10:33 AM
We will kick some Spurs ass today .

Sincerely,

Mikey D

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2889/dantonipregnantht9.jpg

T Park
03-09-2008, 10:38 AM
You honestly can't predict wich Spurs team will show up.

Weather the storm early, then 4 down em to death and be agressive going to the hole.

Oh yeah, Stoudamire, Udoka, Finley, Bowen, Horry?

Make your damn 3s today, you guys are gonna need em....

BonnerDynasty
03-09-2008, 11:34 AM
I am going to be PISSED if the Spurs give this one up. THey should go out there with 100% playoff mentality and crush these MF'ers.

If Spurs could beat them by 20, OMG. That would cause another huge shit storm in PHX. This opportunity is too good to pass up.

itzsoweezee
03-09-2008, 12:09 PM
spurs need to win today. you can't miss the chance to completely demoralize a potential playoff opponent before you've even played a playoff game. especially against such a mentally weak team like the sons.

and as far as respecting for steve nash . . . fuck that. this guy is so freaking horrible on defense it's pathetic. and he's getting by virtually unscathed from media scrutiny while his team is falling apart around him. not to mention that he's a whiner just like the rest of his team.

Trainwreck2100
03-09-2008, 12:12 PM
Nash will be guarding Parker, no more needs to be said.

Indazone
03-09-2008, 12:25 PM
Yep must win game for the Spurs. good luck :tu

urunobili
03-09-2008, 12:29 PM
Manu will explode 4 40 today book it

davi78239
03-09-2008, 01:03 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the spurs lost this one, being that phoenix really really needs this one as some are saying that this game will probably determine their fate and season. They are fighting to stay alive in the playoffs and need to prove that they can beat the spurs. Not to mention, it's also a nationally televised game on sunday afternoon with everyone watching and they are the home team. I really hope the spurs win this one and it's just as important to them to stay up there for that first spot in the WC, but I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if the spurs don't come out on top today (if they do, it'll be a close one). We'll see.

SouthernFried
03-09-2008, 01:09 PM
You honestly can't predict wich Spurs team will show up.




Ayup...

td4mvp21
03-09-2008, 01:13 PM
Since the suspensions weren't in any way questionable, and the punishment was exactly as the rule states for the infraction, and since the Suns lost game 1 on their home floor with nobody suspended, I'd characterize his continued blame of the suspensions on anything as "whining".

:clap Thank God someone said this. I don't know how the suspensions were questionable when the RULE says that's how things are supposed to go. The rule has been carried out in every instance in the past. It was not questionable nor controversial.


Nash will be guarding Parker, no more needs to be said.
Nah, Bell will be on Parker, Hill on Ginobili, Nash on Bowen, Stoudemire on Thomas, and Shaq on Duncan.

itzsoweezee
03-09-2008, 01:23 PM
:clap Thank God someone said this. I don't know how the suspensions were questionable when the RULE says that's how things are supposed to go. The rule has been carried out in every instance in the past. It was not questionable nor controversial.


Nah, Bell will be on Parker, Hill on Ginobili, Nash on Bowen, Stoudemire on Thomas, and Shaq on Duncan.


if that's the case, shaq is going to get destroyed. he's going to foul out in the first half if dantony expects shaq to guard duncan one-on-one.

E20
03-09-2008, 01:24 PM
Tim Duncan should have good game. Kurt Thomas on Amare should be good to see, KT was on the Suns, so he should know Amare in and out. Shaq on TD is basically a no factor, but so is Amare on TD..................I can't believe Suns gave up KT.

Budkin
03-09-2008, 01:45 PM
Suns won't be winning shit today sorry.

ClingingMars
03-09-2008, 02:21 PM
Expect a win for the Suns today! I guarantee it! :clap

quoting this in my sig after the Spurs rape the Suns.

-Mars