NBA Trivia!

[Galileo]

OK, boys and girls, I've got some NBA trivia for you.

The High School class of 1988 was one of the most renowned in history (right up there with 1981 and 1979).

The five top blue-chip recruits were; Alonzo Mourning, Billy Owens, Shawn Kemp, Stanley Roberts, and Kenny Williams.

These players started their freshmen year in college in the fall of 1988 (except Williams).

OK, now here is the question.

The Sporting News college basketball preview magazine (Fall '88) rated all the freshman, in many categories. The most under-rated freshman was Byron Houston, for example.

QUESTION

Who was rated the most over-rated freshman???

The first person to answer this correctly gets FIVE Bonus points!!!!!

PS - If no one gets this after one page, I will post a hint.

Good luck, boys and girls.

:wakeup

:madrun

:bang

:pctoss

:dizzy

[Medvedenko]

Zo

[FromWayDowntown]

Just for the hell of it: Robert Horry.

[Galileo]

Zo

No

[FromWayDowntown]

NBA players born in between September 1, 1969 and August 31, 1970 who were likely in the 1988 Freshman class (there are others -- my list didn't catch Billy Owens or Christian Laettner, for example):

Sean Rooks
Matt Geiger
Doug Smith
Cedric Lewis
Carl Thomas
Charles Thomas
Bob Martin
Kevin Brooks
P.J. Brown
Joe Courtney
Anthony Avent
Jerrod Mustaf
Gary Alexander
Myron Brown
Jimmy Carruth
LaMark Baker
Demetrius Calip
Sam Cassell
Matt Fish
Byron Houston
Anthony Peeler
Shawn Kemp
Elmore Spencer
Evric Gray
Tom Gugliotta
Bobby Phills
Tony Farmer
Todd Day
Chris Jent
Don MacLean
Chris Mills
Dexter Cambridge
Eric Mobley
Malik Sealy
Sean Green
Jo Jo English
Stanley Roberts
Alonzo Mourning
Dell Demps
Elmer Bennett
Adam Keefe
Sasha Danilovic
Litterial Green
Rex Walters
Marques Bragg
Matt Steigenga
Oliver Miller
Walt Williams
Corey Williams
Dexter Boney
LaPhonso Ellis
Doug Christie
Marcus Webb
Keith Tower
Hubert Davis
Todd Mundt
Chris Smith
Terrell Brandon
Eric Anderson
Sam Mack
Eric Riley
Lee Mayberry
Zan Tabak
Popeye Jones
Brian Davis
Rastko Cvetkovic
Acie Earl
Rich Manning
Alex Blackwell
Antonio Harvey
Malcolm Mackey
Mark Strickland
Stephen Howard
Brooks Thompson
Adonis Jordan
Reggie Smith
Robert Horry
Reggie Slater
James Robinson

[whottt]

Oliver Miller

[FromWayDowntown]

If it's not Horry (or Dell Demps), I'm not sure how the question is Spurs-related.

[ricketts]

Danny Manning??

[vander]

hmm, I'm assuming this is Spurs related so... Sean Elliott!

I have no idea what year he was a freshman, to lazy to look it up

[cash459]

shawn kemp.....and he never played college ball

[Galileo]

Just for the hell of it: Robert Horry.

Are you trying to tell me that Horry is overrated??

[FromWayDowntown]

Danny Manning??

Danny Manning's collegiate team won an NCAA championship in the spring of 1988, so he wasn't in the class of freshmen that entered college in the fall of 1988.


hmm, I'm assuming this is Spurs related so... Sean Elliot!

I have no idea what year he was a freshman, to lazy to look it up

Sean Elliott entered college in the fall of 1985.

[Galileo]

hmm, I'm assuming this is Spurs related so... Sean Elliot!

I have no idea what year he was a freshman, to lazy to look it up

Sean Elliot is from the wrong year. He is not from the HS class of '88.

[FromWayDowntown]

Are you trying to tell me that Horry is overrated??

I'm trying to tell you that Robert Horry is my guess to the question, "Which Freshman did the Sporting News Rate as Most Overrated in 1988?"

That answer has no subjective analysis of the merits of the publication's prediction.

[Galileo]

shawn kemp.....and he never played college ball

not Kemp.

[vander]

Danny Manning's collegiate team won an NCAA championship in the spring of 1988, so he wasn't in the class of freshmen that entered college in the fall of 1988.



Sean Elliott entered college in the fall of 1985.

I tried to fix it before anyone saw :oops

[FromWayDowntown]

Christian Laettner?

[Galileo]

NBA players born in between September 1, 1969 and August 31, 1970 who were likely in the 1988 Freshman class (there are others -- my list didn't catch Billy Owens or Christian Laettner, for example):

Sean Rooks
Matt Geiger
Doug Smith
Cedric Lewis
Carl Thomas
Charles Thomas
Bob Martin
Kevin Brooks
P.J. Brown
Joe Courtney
Anthony Avent
Jerrod Mustaf
Gary Alexander
Myron Brown
Jimmy Carruth
LaMark Baker
Demetrius Calip
Sam Cassell
Matt Fish
Byron Houston
Anthony Peeler
Shawn Kemp
Elmore Spencer
Evric Gray
Tom Gugliotta
Bobby Phills
Tony Farmer
Todd Day
Chris Jent
Don MacLean
Chris Mills
Dexter Cambridge
Eric Mobley
Malik Sealy
Sean Green
Jo Jo English
Stanley Roberts
Alonzo Mourning
Dell Demps
Elmer Bennett
Adam Keefe
Sasha Danilovic
Litterial Green
Rex Walters
Marques Bragg
Matt Steigenga
Oliver Miller
Walt Williams
Corey Williams
Dexter Boney
LaPhonso Ellis
Doug Christie
Marcus Webb
Keith Tower
Hubert Davis
Todd Mundt
Chris Smith
Terrell Brandon
Eric Anderson
Sam Mack
Eric Riley
Lee Mayberry
Zan Tabak
Popeye Jones
Brian Davis
Rastko Cvetkovic
Acie Earl
Rich Manning
Alex Blackwell
Antonio Harvey
Malcolm Mackey
Mark Strickland
Stephen Howard
Brooks Thompson
Adonis Jordan
Reggie Smith
Robert Horry
Reggie Slater
James Robinson

This is a good list. The correct answer is no it.

[whottt]

You can't really over-rate being the common thread to 7 NBA championships and a bevy of well remembered shots to prove you weren't just coattailing.

[whottt]

Chris Webber?

[cash459]

stanley roberts

[FromWayDowntown]

Rick Fox?

[FromWayDowntown]

Jerod Mustaf?

[FromWayDowntown]

Hubert Davis?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

M. Night Shyamalan

[FromWayDowntown]

Sam Cassell?

[FromWayDowntown]

Adonis Jordan?

[cash459]

billy owens :king

[cash459]

kenny williams?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Todd Day

[Galileo]

Christian Laettner?

not Laettner. His fellow freshman teammate Crawford Palmer really sucked, and probably truned out the most overrated player from the class. Palmer was a top 30 recruit.

[Galileo]

kenny williams?

not Williams. I don't think he played his freshman year because of academic problems.

[FromWayDowntown]

You can't really over-rate being the common thread to 7 NBA championships and a bevy of well remembered shots to prove you weren't just coattailing.

Maybe I misunderstood the question, but I thought we're going back to what the Sporting News thought about these guys before they entered college, not what we all might think of them now. Robert Horry hadn't participated in any NBA titles as of the summer of 1988, so I don't see how it's somehow offensive to think that he might have been seen (humorously in retrospect) as the most overrated player in his freshman class.

That story would be more poignant 20 years later than a prediction that Sam Mack or Eric Riley would be the most-overrated freshman of 1988.

[whottt]

Just tell us who you think it is...this is entirely subjective and boils down to your opinion of who you think was the most over-rated...

[Galileo]

Todd Day

the heralded Todd Day is not the answer. he came in with Lee Mayberry and Oliver Miller at Arkansas.

[cash459]

billy owens, billy owens, billy owens, billy owens

[freemeat]

Michael Jackson?

[whottt]

Maybe I misunderstood the question, but I thought we're going back to what the Sporting News thought about these guys before they entered college, not what we all might think of them now. Robert Horry hadn't participated in any NBA titles as of the summer of 1988, so I don't see how it's somehow offensive to think that he might have been seen (humorously in retrospect) as the most overrated player in his freshman class.

That story would be more poignant 20 years later than a prediction that Sam Mack or Eric Riley would be the most-overrated freshman of 1988.


Yes...and per usual when you are arguing about his HOF status, you don't seem to get that Horry's got quite a list of achievements in the NBA.


First player in NBA history with a hundred blocks, a hundred steals and a hundred threes in a single season.


In closing...how many of those guys mentioned in that article are still in the NBA?

[FromWayDowntown]

not Laettner. His fellow freshman teammate Crawford Palmer really sucked, and probably truned out the most overrated player from the class. Palmer was a top 30 recruit.

Is your question about an after-the-fact analysis or a before-they-played guess? I'm really confused because the question seemed to ask who was predicted to be the most overrated player in the class. Your responses are entirely backward looking, though.

[vander]

Just tell us who you think it is...this is entirely subjective and boils down to your opinion of who you think was the most over-rated...

or the opposite, I figured this was about making a mockery of scouting publications and such

[freemeat]

Billy Dee Williams?

This thread is absolutely retarded.

[Galileo]

Just tell us who you think it is...this is entirely subjective and boils down to your opinion of who you think was the most over-rated...

This is not a subjective question. It is a question regarding the '88 colllege preview issue.

[freemeat]

and in the wrong forum.

[cash459]

billy owens :madrun

[Barbarian]

Harold "baby jordan" Miner

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Gugs?

[Galileo]

Billy Dee Williams?

This thread is absolutely retarded.

never heard of him. He was probably overrated, but that isn't the answer.

[FromWayDowntown]

Yes...and per usual when you are arguing about his HOF status, you don't seem to get that Horry's got quite a list of achievements in the NBA.


First player in NBA history with a hundred blocks, a hundred steals and a hundred threes in a single season.


In closing...how many of those guys mentioned in that article are still in the NBA?

Again, I'm not arguing about Horry's HOF credentials.

I guess I just don't understand the question. I'm taking myself back 20 years to think about who might have been predicted to be overrated and in the process of offering guesses, I'm being castigated for statements that I'm not even making!!

[Galileo]

Gugs?

Gugs? Good guess, but nada.

[FromWayDowntown]

This is not a subjective question. It is a question regarding the '88 colllege preview issue.

Then why does suggesting Robert Horry imply that I think he's overrated?

And what the hell ever happened to that hint?

[cash459]

wtf!? BILLY OWENS

[whottt]

This is not a subjective question. It is a question regarding the '88 colllege preview issue.



Definitively stating who was the most over-rated/under-rated is the epitome of subjective...

[Galileo]

billy owens :madrun

my favorite player at the time. But he was not overrated, he was really good from day one, averaged over 13 points/game as a freshman and is not the answer.

[Galileo]

Chris Webber?

wrong year, he was later.

[Galileo]

Rick Fox?

wrong year

[FromWayDowntown]

my favorite player at the time. But he was not overrated, he was really good from day one, averaged over 13 points/game as a freshman and is not the answer.

Again, what does his eventual production have to do with whether he might have been predicted to have been overrated?

It's an objective question in the sense that there is a definitive prediction that the Sporting News offered in 1988 -- the prediction itself was certainly subjective, but it's like asking who Marc Stein predicted would win the 2005 NBA Championship.

[Bruno]

not Laettner. His fellow freshman teammate Crawford Palmer really sucked, and probably truned out the most overrated player from the class. Palmer was a top 30 recruit.

A little trivia about Crawford Palmer.
He won an Olympic silver medal in 2000.

[batboy]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/pirateneko/other%20crap/f8a930c6.jpg

[whottt]

my favorite player at the time. But he was not overrated,


Well hell...with objectivity like that...please excuse my earlier statements.

[ricketts]

someone already said him but harold Miner, he was a much hyped failure. other than two dunk contests.

[Galileo]

Just for the hell of it: Robert Horry.

BANG!

Robert Horry is the answer.

The Sporting News college preview in the fall '88 claimed that Robert Horry of Alabama was the most overrated incoming freshman in the country.

Great Job, Waydowntown!!

Boy, was the TSN wrongola!

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Uh?

[vander]

Terrell Brandon?

that asshole is the reason I only played fantasy basketball once :madrun

[FromWayDowntown]

WTF? We needed three pages and a bunch of garbage about me suggesting that Horry is overrated today to get to the point that The Sporting News made a horrendous prediction in 1988?

[timvp]

Bro, that was the second post in the thread. Why milk it for three pages?

[whottt]

Well...some would say that Horry has failed to live up to his potential...


He has kind of a rep for coasting.

[freemeat]

Worst. Thread. Ever.

Seriously, I've only been here a few years, but this is the absolute worst I've seen thus far. Retarded. Just shameful and stupid.

This thread is like Corky after 15 years of being a meth addict.

[whottt]

Bro, that was the second post in the thread. Why milk it for three pages?


He was pissed off the question got answered so quickly?



In hindsight...I didn't even understand the question.

[FromWayDowntown]

In hindsight...I didn't even understand the question.

Thanks for acknowledging that.

[batboy]

This thread is a lock for the Fail HOF.

[whottt]

Thanks for acknowledging that.


No thanks necessary...it's merely a case of being honest.


I thought he was just talking about a list of rankings for highschoolplayers and was going to point out what a joke the top ranked player by SI turned out to be in retrospect.

[cash459]

Bro, that was the second post in the thread. Why milk it for three pages?

galileo = :donkey

[FromWayDowntown]

No thanks necessary...it's merely a case of being honest.


I thought he was just talking about a list of rankings for highschoolplayers and was going to point out what a joke the top ranked player by SI turned out to be in retrospect.

I guess I'm taking the acknowledgment on your part as understanding that I wasn't calling Robert Horry overrated.

[whottt]

I guess I'm taking the acknowledgment on your part as understanding that I wasn't calling Robert Horry overrated.


Um...your argument against his HOF worthiness stands on it's own merits. While I may have been in error in intertwining that argument with statements you made in this thread...you still have a horrible anti-Horry HOF argument on record...



That said...good answer in this thread :tu

[JamStone]

LMAO @ him saying what answers were wrong but ignoring the correct answer for three pages because it was the second guess

[whottt]

Just out of curisosity....do you have the entire list?

[Galileo]

This thread is a lock for the Fail HOF.

this thread will go down in spurstalk lore as one of the most underrated in all its history.

I would like to thank everyone for their participation.

[Spurminator]

LMAO

I'm glad this thread happened while I was driving home.

[freemeat]

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2392/wsiratemp6.jpg

[cash459]

this thread will go down in spurstalk lore as one of the most underrated in all its history.

I would like to thank everyone for their participation.

:drunk :drunk :hat :hat :drunk :drunk

[whottt]

Just for the sake of argument...

At one point Robert Horry was touted as being the second coming of Magic Johnson...if that was the case that lead to his ranking at the top of this list, one could argue it was accurate.

[Galileo]

Just out of curisosity....do you have the entire list?

don't have it anymore.

[Galileo]

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2392/wsiratemp6.jpg

the 'Vote' icon doesn't work.

:-(

[Galileo]

More Spurs Trivia!!

Who is the only Spur to score 30 points or more in his NBA debut?

The first correct answer will receive four bonus points.

:-)

[FromWayDowntown]

Did he have 30 points in his Spurs debut or in his professional debut? Do ABA debuts count?

Will we have to wait 3 pages to see if an answer is actually correct?

[whottt]

I don't know but let me just say that FWDT hates him whoever it is...

[whottt]

Did he have 30 points in his Spurs debut or in his professional debut? Do ABA debuts count?

Will we have to wait 3 pages to see if an answer is actually correct?


I don't think Dave scored that many....

I'm gonna say Willie Anderson if it's a rookie.

[freemeat]

Kenny Baker?

[freemeat]

the 'Vote' icon doesn't work.

:-(

You're retarded.

[whottt]

I just looked it up...

It was Willie Anderson.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198811050SAS.html

[FromWayDowntown]

I don't think Dave scored that many....

I'm gonna say Willie Anderson if it's a rookie.

Dave had 23 (and 17 boards) in his debut. Timmy had 15 (and 10).

Willie did have 30 in his Spurs debut.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198811050SAS.html

[whottt]

Dave had 23 (and 17 boards) in his debut. http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198811050SAS.html


Some guys were never rookies - Magic

[freemeat]

I just looked it up...

It was Willie Anderson.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198811050SAS.html

Good work!

What are you gonna do with your four bonus points?

[timvp]

Regarding Horry, I remember Rocket Fan melting down when they picked Horry ahead of Harold Minor. The Rocket Fans wanted either Minor or Byron Houston and were pizzed that the team took Horry.

The Rockets were criticized by a lot of people (not just their fans) for picking Horry, who was expected to be selected closer to the end of the first round. During the draft, I remember the commentators saying Horry was too aloof to make an impact as an NBA player.

I forgot if it was Buck Harvey or someone else in the local newspaper but I remember that the Express-News had an article about how the Rockets should have picked Minor ... if only for entertainment purposes. This was at a point in time when Olajuwon wasn't even that good, the Rockets were thinking about trading him and there was really no hope for a championship in the near future.

Then Olajuwon learned how to pass and the Rockets added clutch mf'ers like Horry and Cassell . . . :depressed

[whottt]

Good work!

What are you gonna do with your four bonus points?


Hey...I was just doing my part to end this thing before Gallileo made it confusing and drug it out for 3 pages.

[FromWayDowntown]

FWD bonus points >> whottt bonus points

[freemeat]

Hey...I was just doing my part to end this thing before Gallileo made it confusing and drug it out for 3 pages.

I know...and glad you did so, cause this guy is ridiculous.

But, FWDT does have one more point than you, so we can only pray for more trivia...

[whottt]

Now for my question:


How much crack did Gallileo smoke before logging on to ST today?

[timvp]

At one point Robert Horry was touted as being the second coming of Magic JohnsonI've seen you say this before but when exactly was he touted as being the second coming of Magic? Horry was pretty much trashed at every level. Most people mistook his patience (or whatever you want to call it) for laziness and not caring. Even when he got to the Rockets, I think it was Olajuwon who asked Horry if Horry even cared if the Rockets won or lost games. In college, everyone always complained that Horry wasn't doing enough ... especially after his stats regressed from his sophomore to junior year, IIRC. When exactly were these Magic comparisons?

[Galileo]

Final Trivia:

true or false; there was a college basketball all-american who was born in the 19th century and who died in the 21st century? If true, who?

The first correct answer breaks the tie and earns 6 bonus points.

[freemeat]

When exactly were these Magic comparisons?

In this thread, points (and bonus points) must be offered before any more questions are answered...

[freemeat]

Final Trivia:

true or false; there was a college basketball all-american who was born in the 19th century and who died in the 21st century? If true, who?

The first correct answer breaks the tie and earns 6 bonus points.

False.

(Please don't make it the final question.)

[whottt]

Link?


How about we say I am just making it up and leave it at that. Happy now?

For the record...if I am drawing my own conclusions I will be only too happy to point that out old foot...that way I can prop myself for my insight when I am right. See Tony Parker getting mad about the Kidd pursuit and Kidd not signing, for a better example of this.


They said it...who said it? I don't know. I heard some guy attribute it to scouts during a game once upon a time...


And the purpose of the comparison was to point out Horry's versatility as a passer, shooter, rebounder etc...one of those guys who could do it all.

As for my lack of sources...

Believe it or not...basketball was around before the internet grasshopper.



Believe it or not...once upon a time Spursfans went to bed without even seeing the boxscore, and every once in a while, without even knowing who won the game.

[Galileo]

False.

(Please don't make it the final question.)

false is not the answer.

[timvp]

How about we say I am just making it up and leave it at that. Happy now?

For the record...if I am drawing my own conclusions I will be only too happy to point that out old foot...that way I can prop myself for my insight when I am right. See Tony Parker getting mad about the Kidd pursuit and Kidd not signing, for a better example of this.


They said it...who said it? I don't know. I heard some guy attribute it to scouts during a game once upon a time...


And the purpose of the comparison was to point out Horry's versatility as a passer, shooter, rebounder etc...one of those guys who could do it all.

As for my lack of sources...

Believe it or not...basketball was around before the internet grasshopper.



Believe it or not...once upon a time Spursfans went to bed without even seeing the boxscore, and every once in a while, without even knowing who won the game.Damn, a little touchy, aren't we :lol

It was a sincere question.

[whottt]

Final Trivia:

true or false; there was a college basketball all-american who was born in the 19th century and who died in the 21st century? If true, who?

The first correct answer breaks the tie and earns 6 bonus points.


True


As for who it is...I don't know. But there are still a few people around that were born in the 19th century. Not really a believe it or not question...

[freemeat]

Is it Anthony Daniels?

[Galileo]

Is it Anthony Daniels?

nope, he was born in the 20th century.

[freemeat]

oh! I know!

Peter Mayhew?

[whottt]

Damn, a little touchy, aren't we :lol

It was a sincere question.


I've just bee noticing some surprised reactions from you on occasion...

Like for instance, I know for certain you went into absolute shock when I whiffed so badly on Moore's jersey retirment in that argument we had a couple of weeks ago...but back then it wouldn't have been out of the ordinary at all to miss something like that, in the early 90's...and even in the late 90's. Or to miss out on whose jerseys were retired....I didn't really even know who James Silas was really until about 2003, because he a damn scrub when I was a kid. I didn't know when Gervin's jersey was retired either, I actually thought it was after Moore's....

Even in the late 90's it was the sort of thing that gets mentioned at the end of a recap or something...if you are lucky.


Someone saying Horry was another Magic is similar in that it predates the internet where all details were waiting to be gleaned with a few keystrokes into the old search engine....it was something said on TV by an analyst after Horry hit a big shot or made a big pass or something. Why was it said? Because it gets your attention when you hear that kind of comparison.




I myself do not know if people were saying that about Horry in 88, as I hadn't heard of him then...but if they were saying it(in terms of impact he would have on the court)...well they certainly would have been over-rating him.

[Galileo]

John Wooden?

[FromWayDowntown]

John Wooden?

Born 1910. Still alive. Not Canadian.

[freemeat]

John Wooden?

Uh...isn't John Wooden still alive?

If not Peter Mayhew, I'm guessing....

David Prowse!

[whottt]

Wooden's not even a hundred yet...


How old is Mike D'antoni's dad?

[FromWayDowntown]

Uh...isn't John Wooden still alive?

If not Peter Mayhew, I'm guessing....

David Prowse!

Come on -- it's got to be Peter Cushing.

[freemeat]

Come on -- it's got to be Peter Cushing.

Someone finally caught on....

I've so far guessed C3-P0, Chewbacca, Darth Vader, R2-D2 and Lando Calrissian...

[FromWayDowntown]

Someone finally caught on....

I've so far guessed C3-P0, Chewbacca, Darth Vader, R2-D2 and Lando Calrissian...

I've been on to you for a while, I just thought we were finally getting esoteric enough to wade in with my own guess.

[freemeat]

I've been on to you for a while, I just thought we were finally getting esoteric enough to wade in with my own guess.

Nice...a Star Wars fan. I actually had to look those names up on IMDB. I could only tell you Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and the like, otherwise...

[whottt]

It's sad that Peter Cushing is now known as, "that Star Wars guy".

Ditto Christopher Lee as, "that other Star Wars guy" or "that Lord of the Rings dude".

[timvp]

I've just bee noticing some surprised reactions from you on occasion...It was just a question. But yeah, I do have surprised reactions to some of the things you "bee noticing".


Like for instance, I know for certain you went into absolute shock when I whiffed so badly on Moore's jersey retirment in that argument we had a couple of weeks agoThat was a few months ago. And yeah, I kinda led you into that ownage because I knew all along when his jersey was retired ... I went to that game. I just let you dig your own grave before letting you know.

I apologize.


I didn't really even know who James Silas was really until about 2003Shoog just shed a tear.


Someone saying Horry was another Magic is similar in that it predates the internet where all details were waiting to be gleaned with a few keystrokes into the old search engine....it was something said on TV by an analyst after Horry hit a big shot or made a big pass or something.Link to where I asked for a link about Horry being compared to Magic? I just wanted to know in what time period you were talking about. High school? Early college? Late college? Early NBA?

I've followed Horry for a while because I liked the Alabama teams of the early '90's. That 1992 team had Horry, Latrell Sprewell, James Robinson, Cedric Moore, Elliott Washington, David Benoit (i think) ... yet they still underachieved. IIRC, they got bounced in the first round of the tourney. Pretty ironic that not being able to win was one of the reasons why Horry's draft stock wasn't higher . . .

But yeah, I was just wonderin'. D@mn.

[Galileo]

More Spurs Trivia!!

Who is the only Spur to score 30 points or more in his NBA debut?

The first correct answer will receive four bonus points.

:-)

George Gervin? The Iceman?

[Galileo]

Uh...isn't John Wooden still alive?

If not Peter Mayhew, I'm guessing....

David Prowse!

Phog Allen? Adolph Rupp?

[Galileo]

Just for the sake of argument...

At one point Robert Horry was touted as being the second coming of Magic Johnson...if that was the case that lead to his ranking at the top of this list, one could argue it was accurate.

never heard this.

I've heard Sean Higgins, Lloyd Daniels, Billy Owens, Danny Manning, Anfernee Hardaway, but not Horry.

They all were not legimate 6' 9" or couldn't dribble well enough to play the point.

[FromWayDowntown]

George Gervin? The Iceman?

If Gervin did that, he wasn't the only Spur to ever do it -- your question asked for the "only" Spur to get 30 or more in his NBA debut. Willie Anderson undoubtedly did it.

[Galileo]

still one more trivia

[worth two bonus points]

Which former Seattle Supersonic and Portland Trailblazer, while a freshman in college in a major elite division one conference, scored 30 points or more in his college freshman debut?

[whottt]

It was just a question. But yeah, I do have surprised reactions to some of the things you "bee noticing".

That was a few months ago. And yeah, I kinda led you into that ownage because I knew all along when his jersey was retired ... I went to that game. I just let you dig your own grave before letting you know.

I apologize.

No problemo...if I had as much problem owning you as you do me, I'd maximize my rare chances as well. And they did make a big deal about Moore in Austin...when he came back, when he retired, and when his jersey was retired...I just superimposed the time frames...easy to do when you are talking about events without archives that happened 10-18 years ago.






Link to where I asked for a link about Horry being compared to Magic? I just wanted to know in what time period you were talking about. High school? Early college? Late college? Early NBA?

Early NBA...probably one of the analysts for TNT circa 94...I want to say Doug Collins but I'm not sure if he was broadcasting then...maybe Hubie. Pretty sure Hubie was the main guy back then.





I've followed Horry for a while because I liked the Alabama teams of the early '90's. That 1992 team had Horry, Latrell Sprewell, James Robinson, Cedric Moore, Elliott Washington, David Benoit (i think) ... yet they still underachieved. IIRC, they got bounced in the first round of the tourney. Pretty ironic that not being able to win was one of the reasons why Horry's draft stock wasn't higher . . .

But yeah, I was just wonderin'. D@mn.


Don't know...never heard of Horry before he was drafted...did not like him at all during his early Rocket years. Damn sure didn't think he was a 3 point threat. Found out the hard way that he was....no matter how disinterested and shittily he was playing...

[freemeat]

still one more trivia

[worth two bonus points]

Which former Seattle Supersonic and Portland Trailblazer, while a freshman in college in a major elite division one conference, scored 30 points or more in his college freshman debut?

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n30/shadowyinzer/aw_jeez_not_this_shit_again2.jpg

[Galileo]

Basil Hayden
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Hayden

"Basil Hayden (born May 18, 1899 in Stanford, Kentucky - died January 10, 2003 in Paris, Kentucky) was a head basketball coach at the University of Kentucky in 1927."

Kentucky Wildcats men's basketball
George Bucheit and the "Wonder Team"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_Wildcats_men%27s_basketball

"Both of these teams were composed entirely of native Kentuckians, anchored by All-American Basil Hayden."

Check it out, this dude lived to be 103 years old! I wouldn't BS my fellow Spurs fans....

[Galileo]

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n30/shadowyinzer/aw_jeez_not_this_shit_again2.jpg

stumped ya, eh? Well, this one is a stumper!!! Rhymes with Jumper!!

:ihit

[whottt]

never heard this.

I've heard Sean Higgins, Lloyd Daniels, Billy Owens, Danny Manning, Anfernee Hardaway, but not Horry.

They all were not legimate 6' 9" or couldn't dribble well enough to play the point.

You left out Steve Smith.

Horry could dribble and could pass...even though he played C in college. What no one expected him to do that well was shoot.

Horry was amazingly mobile for a bigman, he had well above average passing skills, and he could rebound...hence the Magic comparison.

IF you are a 6'9+ guy that can pass you get compared to Magic back then.



Even now the comparsons aren't that far off when you are talking about his skill set...dude once averaged 4 assists per game( I know that's nowhere near Magic level, but then neither is anyone else compared to him this side of Jason Kidd).

[JamStone]

I remember Walt "the Wizard" Williams being compared to Magic Johnson, but never Robert Horry.

[freemeat]

stumped ya, eh? Well, this one is a stumper!!! Rhymes with Jumper!!

:ihit

Galileo strikes again!


http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/lilmiss_84/retard.jpg

[whottt]

I remember Walt "the Wizard" Williams being compared to Magic Johnson, but never Robert Horry.


Yeah but my impression of you is that any day you can remember the answer to 1+1 is a banner one for you.

[Trainwreck2100]

never heard of him. He was probably overrated, but that isn't the answer.

Billy Dee's not overrated, he's Lando

[JamStone]

Yeah but my impression of you is that any day you can remember the answer to 1+1 is a banner one for you.

That's fine because your impression is generally inaccurate.



http://www.nba.com/playerfile/walt_williams/bio.html

"Although Walt Williams didn't prove to be "the next Magic Johnson," as some college basketball fans labeled him"

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE1DA1F3BF933A05752C1A9649582 60&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

"Now it does, as part of a rookie class that also includes -- if one buys the hype -- the Next Wilt (O'Neal), the Next Bird (Tom Gugliotta), the Next Ewing (Alonzo Mourning) and Maybe the Next Magic (Sacramento's Walt Williams)."

http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/Draft/050626.htm

"Williams came into the league as a lead guard with 6’8” size and remarkable court vision. Scouts drooled over the idea of Magic Johnson with a more consistent jumper."

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Yea, this thread's gay.

[Galileo]

Galileo strikes again!


http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/lilmiss_84/retard.jpg

What; is the capital of Assyria!?

Here's some more trivia for my fellow Spurs fan:

Monty Python and the Holy Grail - The Bridge of Death
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpx6XnankZ8

[tp2021]

George Mikan McDonald

[whottt]

That's fine because your impression is generally inaccurate.



http://www.nba.com/playerfile/walt_williams/bio.html

"Although Walt Williams didn't prove to be "the next Magic Johnson," as some college basketball fans labeled him"

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE1DA1F3BF933A05752C1A9649582 60&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

"Now it does, as part of a rookie class that also includes -- if one buys the hype -- the Next Wilt (O'Neal), the Next Bird (Tom Gugliotta), the Next Ewing (Alonzo Mourning) and Maybe the Next Magic (Sacramento's Walt Williams)."

http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/Draft/050626.htm

"Williams came into the league as a lead guard with 6’8” size and remarkable court vision. Scouts drooled over the idea of Magic Johnson with a more consistent jumper."



That's all very nice, but I never said Williams wasn't compared to Magic.

[freemeat]

It's awesome that there's three different things going on in this thread:

-- A serious argument about Robert Horry, Magic Johnson and Walt Williams
-- People playing Galileo's retarded game for magical points
-- People making fun of him

Galileo -- the answer is Mable Simmons!

[JamStone]

That's all very nice, but I never said Williams wasn't compared to Magic.


That's good that you can admit that much.

Now who ever called Robert Horry the next "Magic Johnson?"

[whottt]

That's good that you can admit that much.

Now who ever called Robert Horry the next "Magic Johnson?"


I already said it was an analyst during a Rockets game...probably on TNT and most likely Hubie.

Say you think I am pulling this entirely out of my ass(and I'm not)...


Do you think it's beyond the realm of possibility for Hubie to have confused Walt Williams and Robert Horry...


Do you really?

[freemeat]

During a recent Lakers game, Hubie Brown actually pronounced Pau Gasol's name "Ga-Sall" and "Ga-Soul" -- in the same sentence.

It's understandable that someone might get confused with a foreign player's name, but he used to be Gasol's coach.

The guy is certifiable.

[T Park]

I thought the thread was Ok.

I mean, maybe galileo got distracted and it took him a while to answer?

Maybe the threads moved and got posted in quick and he couldn't catch up?

I dunno.

[whottt]

I thought *snip*


All that needed to be said...
Everything else that followed is self explanatory.

[Findog]

Oliver Miller

I went to the same high school as him. To commemorate the Suns losing to the Bulls in the 93 Finals, we had Oliver Miller Day when I was a sophomore. We actually had an assembly and that douchetard Chris Arnold moderated it.

[Supreme_Being]

lol @ this thread.