F The NBA - Spurs vs. Pistons Game Blog

[BonnerDynasty]

ALL ON THE SPURS. Honestly who here can say we're getting outplayed???? The Spurs are just not focusing for a full game. SOMETHING, SOMETIME has to give, to wake these MOFO's up. WILL THIS BE IT?

The End of the regular season and the playoffs where games actually count for something.








oh wait.

[InK]

51 boards for Pistons.

Besides that im ok with how the Spurs played today. Definetly a step in the right direction

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Weren't the Spurs down by double digits just a few minutes ago??? Fuck it...it's a loss, but by a lot less than I thought...
Fuck moral victories, if you're up one, you go for the win. The Bowen excuse is weak. We had them.

Fuck this game. It was a waste.

[milkyway21]

At this time of year spurts aren't enough... they need to be dominating for whole quarters to beat good teams. That's SPAM.

I haven't given up, but this team looks too old and slow, along with the lack of ref respect for Tim and the ugly Western conference... it all adds up to an even-year to me. That's my rational take. if I was a ble to have "faith" in anything, I'd say Spurs all the way, but I struggle with the concept of faith.Tim doesn't get the respect anymore...i agree with that :cry They can hustle him they want but, he's breathing the opponent-it's a foul.

his FT trips to the line has diminished so much this season...Maybe I'm just imagining it though ..well

[td4mvp21]

well shucks the better team won

Pretty much the game summed up in one sentence :lol

[blah28]

i feel like driving to the airport when the come home and spitting in their faces.
:madrun :madrun :madrun


maybe you should..I would love to see you get your ass kicked :lol

[duncan228]

I think there's good to take from this even if the Spurs lose. They survived a drought in the late 3rd and early 4th and rallied to get back into the game in an extremely hostile environment under some very difficult circumstances.

Moral victories don't mean a damned thing, but there are at least some signs that this team can compete with the other big boys under any circumstances. And they are undoubtedly built for the playoff grind more than for the withering pace of an impossible March schedule.

Thank you.
You'll never know how much I appreciate your ability to put things in words that I just can't. :toast

[SpurAddict561]

Duncan truly doesn't get any love on the foul calls...it's pathetic.

[T Park]

Let's be sure to start another thread about how it's all Finley's fault. He was the only one missing shots and playing no D.

Yeah 3-6 is "the only one missing shots"

Timothy Duncan shooting 9 of 23 is pretty significant.

But what the hell, you guys have your whipping boy, don't get off him now.

[1Parker1]

I think there's good to take from this even if the Spurs lose. They survived a drought in the late 3rd and early 4th and rallied to get back into the game in an extremely hostile environment under some very difficult circumstances.

Moral victories don't mean a damned thing, but there are at least some signs that this team can compete with the other big boys under any circumstances. And they are undoubtedly built for the playoff grind more than for the withering pace of an impossible March schedule.


You're right. But I saw a lot of bad things that have been a trend the whole season. Offensive droughts, predictable offense, soft defense, bad turnovers at critical times, etc.

Spurs are better built for the playoff grind than another other Western Conference team, I'll give you that. But, I fear that age of the role players is finally catching up.

I'm surprised Pop decided to go with Horry for so long in the 2nd half and leave out Kurt Thomas.

[Capt Bringdown]

22 offensive rebounds

[leemajors]

Put Bonner in. He gives a damn and will get us back in it!!!!
shoulda kept him in. Finley blew it

[Vinnie_Johnson]

51 boards for Pistons.

Besides that im ok with how the Spurs played today. Definetly a step in the right direction

Damn that Stearn how was that not a fix? 51 boards?

[Pistons < Spurs]

Good game guys! Always fun.

The rebounding numbers are ugly for the Spurs tonight.

Det: 51 (22 offensive)
SA: 39 (12 offensive)

A little concerning ... especially when the Pistons aren't necessarily known as a great rebounding team. Dice got off for 17 boards, and Theo had 7 (including 5 offensive).

And while I'm sure most of you are upset with the play and the loss, remember you were w/out Bruce and Ime. And that allowed Rip and Tay to both be big factors tonight.

I was surprised to see Manu be such a non-factor in this game. He was looking for the 3ball too much tonight. Only 10 shot attempts, and 5 of them from 3. And Timmy's #'s at first glance may look good (20 & 10), he was also a poor 9-23 shooting. And had 4 TO's.

I wouldn't be too concerned though. I fully expect the Sporks to be one of the final 2 or 3 teams alive in the West.

Hopefully both our squads make it to be the big show once again!

[blah28]

Bonner is going to play a lot tomorrow night..Pop never plays horry in back to back games.

[carina_gino20]

You're not going to win giving up 22 offensive rebounds and getting outrebounded 51-39. Still, they made a game of it more than I expected, and I like the way they climbed back up from the hole. Props to Tony for showing up big tonight. And for Tim stepping up in the 4th.

Manu sucked.

[1Parker1]

Finley is the only reason the Spurs had the lead at the half.

Genius Spurstalk, pure genius.

WHOA. Did you watch the same game tonight as the rest of us?!

:wow :wow

[td4mvp21]

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. Another loss to a good team. This season has sucked all kinds of ass :tu

[T Park]

Good game guys! Always fun.

The rebounding numbers are ugly for the Spurs tonight.

Det: 51 (22 offensive)
SA: 39 (12 offensive)

A little concerning ... especially when the Pistons aren't necessarily known as a great rebounding team. Dice got off for 17 boards, and Theo had 7 (including 5 offensive).

And while I'm sure most of you are upset with the play and the loss, remember you were w/out Bruce and Ime. And that allowed Rip and Tay to both be big factors tonight.

I was surprised to see Manu be such a non-factor in this game. He was looking for the 3ball too much tonight. Only 10 shot attempts, and 5 of them from 3. And Timmy's #'s at first glance may look good (20 & 10), he was also a poorly 9-23 shooting. And had 4 TO's.

I wouldn't be too concerned though. I fully expect the Sporks to be one of the final 2 or 3 teams alive in the West.

Hopefully both our squads make it to be the big show once again!


The rebounds are explained easily.

2 best win defenders out, forced to play zone, you play zone you give up rebounds.

That simple.

[boutons_]

these single-digit, low-double-digit qtrs aren't gonna get it done. The Spurs offense has been really sucking, too many games in the 30%s and low 40%.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

ALL ON THE SPURS. Honestly who here can say we're getting outplayed???? The Spurs are just not focusing for a full game. SOMETHING, SOMETIME has to give, to wake these MOFO's up. WILL THIS BE IT?

Me. I think we're getting outplayed. I think everyone on the team is trying their guts out because they know how crucial these games are, but lack of footspeed and energy (related to old age) are letting them down.

This team is too old, a step slow, and that causes matchup problems, probs on the boards, and fewer hustle plays. It is covered up against poor teams because smarts overcome age against them, but against good teams with more energy we get exposed. Pity, I thought this was the deepest Spurs team I'd ever seen at the start of the season...

[duncan228]

Hopefully both our squads make it to be the big show once again!

I'd like nothing better. :toast

[T Park]

WHOA. Did you watch the same game tonight as the rest of us?!

:wow :wow


Yeah I did.

3-6.

missed 3 shots in the second half.


So thats the reason they lost?

Genius keep it up.

[loveforthegame]

Yeah 3-6 is "the only one missing shots"

Timothy Duncan shooting 9 of 23 is pretty significant.

But what the hell, you guys have your whipping boy, don't get off him now.

I'm not blaming him. Just getting a head start on what all the Finley haters will say and predicting we'll have new threads dedicated to him for that purpose.

[SenorSpur]

I think there's good to take from this even if the Spurs lose. They survived a drought in the late 3rd and early 4th and rallied to get back into the game in an extremely hostile environment under some very difficult circumstances.

Moral victories don't mean a damned thing, but there are at least some signs that this team can compete with the other big boys under any circumstances. And they are undoubtedly built for the playoff grind more than for the withering pace of an impossible March schedule.


Agreed. I hate losses in the worst way, but it's hard to argue the effort here tonight.

[freedom&justice]

Good game guys. Pistons-Spurs is always fun. :)

[blah28]

I want to see how the SPurs play tomorrow then I will gauge the team..I'm not going to say anything considering we were missing our best defender out there.

[T Park]

I'm not blaming him. Just getting a head start on what all the Finley haters will say and predicting we'll have new threads dedicated to him for that purpose.

Gotcha.

Welcome to Spurs talk.

Where there has to always be a whipping boy :tu

[pad300]

www.draftexpress.com

www.nbadraft.net

We're about four losses away from dropping into the lottery.

I will say that dropping to sixth in the west, picking 22, and getting the suns in the 1st round would put a BIG smile on my face. 1) We can take the Suns, I am confident, even if they have HCA 2) That would likely get us Tyler Smith. ME LIKEY. That would be the equivalent of dumping Old Finley, and getting YOUNG FINLEY in exchange. That would be NICE...

[td4mvp21]

Hopefully both our squads make it to be the big show once again!

Don't get your hopes up. Spurs won't make it past the second round this year, I'm afraid to say.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'd almost rather have just lost because i got my hopes up. At least we fought back. I'm fucking sick and tired of Tim not getting respect at all. I fucking hate David Stern and his inconsistent officiating system that favors 6 foot 4 guards who barely get touched rather than hall of fame 7 footers that constantly get hacked.

Amen to that. Unfortunately, it's all about "selling product" not the integrity of the game.

[milkyway21]

did finley made all of his shots in the 1Q? why these Finley hate? Or you want Vaughn instead who can defend but can't score?

:dizzy

[InK]

WHOA. Did you watch the same game tonight as the rest of us?!

:wow :wow

Finley and Horry did as good as anyone could have hoped today. If we looking to point a finger at someone for todays loss, it be poor rebounding, Damon, Oberto and MANU.

And im ok with everyone of the above personally, cept Damon- he really needs to get misplaced when Barry comes back.

[Ice009]

Spurs CAN AND WILL PLAY BETTER. Something will wake them up and they're going be fucking ANGRY AS HELL they let these games go. It's not over, Spurs are NOT DONE by any means. When they awaken they're going to be a fire breathing DRAGON in the playoffs.

[Kori Ellis]

Not a bad game. The Spurs having to play zone all game is a testament to what Bruce does for this team. They got destroyed on the glass but still managed to be right there at the end. I don't think anyone is hanging their heads about this loss. They showed that they can compete and grind their way back into games. This loss isn't that big of a deal.

[TMTTRIO]

I think Manu needs to sit for a while

[T Park]

Not a bad game. The Spurs having to play zone all game is a testament to what Bruce does for this team. They got destroyed on the glass but still managed to be right there at the end. I don't think anyone is hanging their heads about this loss. They showed that they can compete and grind their way back into games. This loss isn't that big of a deal.

Thank you agreed.

When you have to play zone, due to Udoka AND bowen not playing, your gonna give up boards.


Horry playing well tonight was a good sign :tu

[Ronaldo McDonald]

We NEED Barry.

[td4mvp21]

Yeah I did.

3-6.

missed 3 shots in the second half.


So thats the reason they lost?

Genius keep it up.

Dude shut the fuck up already with your arrogant comments. You apparently didn't even watch the game. The reason we were up the first half and even in the game was Tony Parker. Finley hit a couple of good shots but so did every other person on this team. Parker was the one who was there from start to finish.

[JamStone]

damn you guys slid all the way down to the 5th seed... that sucks

at least the Lakers lost tonight too

[blah28]

I don't blame Pop for playing finley today since Ime, and Bruce were out..he had no other choice and Finley did only take 6 shots. Unfortunately it's Finley's defense that is horrible, but what I can expect from a 36 year old player.

But Pop was stupid for not bringing in Bonner earlier in the game!

[duncan228]

Not a bad game. The Spurs having to play zone all game is a testament to what Bruce does for this team. They got destroyed on the glass but still managed to be right there at the end. I don't think anyone is hanging their heads about this loss. They showed that they can compete and grind their way back into games. This loss isn't that big of a deal.

:toast
Thank you.

[Kori Ellis]

Manu needs to sit for a while

He's definitely hurting. I wish he could get some days off.

[T Park]

Finley and Horry did as good as anyone could have hoped today. If we looking to point a finger at someone for todays loss, it be poor rebounding, Damon, Oberto and MANU.

Yeah those three can pretty much take the blame.

Thomas should get all of Oberto's minutes right now.

Damon is just playing how Pop wants him to, as a gunner.

He was much better when he was getting shots within the offense and dishing and creating.

Damon Stoudamire's struggles are all on Pop.

[td4mvp21]

I don't see how these games are ok to lose. We can't beat hte good teams! I can't see how that's good at all.

[1Parker1]

Yeah I did.

3-6.

missed 3 shots in the second half.


So thats the reason they lost?

Genius keep it up.

T Park, do you even read what the hell you write? You literally wrote out the words and I quote:


Finley is the only reason the Spurs had the lead at the half.

Finley was a complete non-factor in this game. Yea it was nice he finally hit some shots. His defense was still crap and he still hasn't learned to box out or grab a rebound. In no way, shape, or form can you even argue that Finley was the reason the Spurs had the lead at the half.

[mFFL03]

good lord.....and spurs fans say that only mav fans bitch about officiating.

sound like a bunch of pussies right now, get yourselves together.

[T Park]

Dude shut the fuck up already with your arrogant comments. You apparently didn't even watch the game. The reason we were up the first half and even in the game was Tony Parker. Finley hit a couple of good shots but so did every other person on this team. Parker was the one who was there from start to finish.

Uh, where did I say Parker wasn't?

Finley played good tonight.

Im sorry that he didn't drop 35 and 12 for you.

[ShoogarBear]

Anyone else shocked that Kurt Thomas didn't seem to have much impact in this game?

[T Park]

I don't blame Pop for playing finley today since Ime, and Bruce were out..he had no other choice and Finley did only take 6 shots. Unfortunately it's Finley's defense that is horrible, but what I can expect from a 36 year old player.

But Pop was stupid for not bringing in Bonner earlier in the game!


Finley is never gonna be known as a defensive stalwart.

Hes at his best when Bowen, Duncan, and Thomas are playing behind himm and hes guarding the other team's bench players.

Thats the way it is. People wanting him to start shutting guys down on defense are smoking crack.

[Pistons < Spurs]

The rebounds are explained easily.

2 best win defenders out, forced to play zone, you play zone you give up rebounds.

That simple.
Disagree to a large extent.

The Zone surely didn't help you all rebounding, but it's not like balls just fell into our laps. I saw the Spurs being out hustled in the rebounding dept. It was more about desire and energy than the Zone D IMO.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

He's definitely hurting. I wish he could get some days off.

Yeah, his jumper is way off and he hardly drove tonight. That thigh contusion is slowing him down a lot.

People forget how often these guys play injured, and of course it affects their performance.

[Bruno]

Outside of the rebounding, I'm proud of what Spurs have done tonight.
Spurs were only playing with 2 wing and Manu is tired/injured but the team put a very good fight and show some life.

[T Park]

Anyone else shocked that Kurt Thomas didn't seem to have much impact in this game?

Maybe cause he hardly played in the second half?

He went out at the 4:45 mark of the third and never came back in.

[td4mvp21]

Uh, where did I say Parker wasn't?

Finley played good tonight.

Im sorry that he didn't drop 35 and 12 for you.

You said he was the only reason the Spurs were in the game. That's not true. And when anyone tells you that you get into arrogant ass mode and act like they are stupid. You obviously did not watch the game.

[T Park]

Disagree to a large extent.

The Zone surely didn't help you all rebounding, but it's not like balls just fell into our laps. I saw the Spurs being out hustled in the rebounding dept. It was more about desire and energy than the Zone D IMO.

You can disagree all you want but its true.

Zone D = long rebounds = offensive rebounds.

[blah28]

Stop blaming Finley for his defense; Finley has never, ever been a good defender!!!! Blame Pop for playing Finley when he could have put Bonner, or Thomas; or even Vaughn!

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah, his jumper is way off and he hardly drove tonight. That thigh contusion is slowing him down a lot.

People forget how often these guys play injured, and of course it affects their performance.

It's probably more than the thigh. He's just really fatigued. If the West wasn't so tight, he could have a day off.

[Harry Callahan]

Six Free throws in an entire game with Ginobili, Parker, and Duncan on the floor. How can that happen?

Would someone please look up the FT attempts per game this year for the Spurs (or even our big three) versus last year. There is no way SIX free throws IN AN ENTIRE GAME should happen. This is the revenge of Joey Crawford.

Please do not tell me the Spurs are the beneficiaries of special treatment from the officials right now. Not this year. I've seen Duncan get hacked time and time and time again at the basket and no whistle all year long. I think Tim has almost resigned himself to the fact he is being treated like a rookie punk instead of a Hall of Fame player.

[T Park]

You said he was the only reason the Spurs were in the game. That's not true. And when anyone tells you that you get into arrogant ass mode and act like they are stupid. You obviously did not watch the game.


Ok Finley was the reason they lost

Happy ? :tu

[TampaDude]

Good game guys! Always fun.

Hopefully both our squads make it to be the big show once again!

Same to you...I hope it happens... :toast

[InK]

good lord.....and spurs fans say that only mav fans bitch about officiating.

sound like a bunch of pussies right now, get yourselves together.

The only talk there was about officiating was in the heat of the moment and in a span of 2 whole minutes....

[T Park]

Stop blaming Finley for his defense; Finley has never, ever been a good defender!!!! Blame Pop for playing Finley when he could have put Bonner, or Thomas; or even Vaughn!


Bonner or Thomas for Finley?

uhhhhh, why?

[timvp]

I'm amazed at how few whistles Duncan gets these days. Not just tonight ... but tonight was a pretty decent example. 18 field goal attempts before his first free throw? Ridiculous considering all the contact down low. This seems to be becoming more and more of an issue .....

:pctoss

[ShoogarBear]

Not a bad game. The Spurs having to play zone all game is a testament to what Bruce does for this team. They got destroyed on the glass but still managed to be right there at the end. I don't think anyone is hanging their heads about this loss. They showed that they can compete and grind their way back into games. This loss isn't that big of a deal.I hate "nice loss" posts when the Spurs are in a losing streak. :madrun

[T Park]

Six Free throws in an entire game with Ginobili, Parker, and Duncan on the floor. How can that happen?

Would someone please look up the FT attempts per game this year for the Spurs (or even our big three) versus last year. There is no way SIX free throws IN AN ENTIRE GAME should happen. This is the revenge of Joey Crawford.

Please do not tell me the Spurs are the beneficiaries of special treatment from the officials right now. Not this year. I've seen Duncan get hacked time and time and time again at the basket and no whistle all year long. I think Tim has almost resigned himself to the fact he is being treated like a rookie punk instead of a Hall of Fame player.

loooots of jumpers.

Especially from Ginobili.

[ShoogarBear]

I'm amazed at how few whistles Duncan gets these days. Not just tonight ... but tonight was a pretty decent example. 18 field goal attempts before his first free throw? Ridiculous considering all the contact down low. This seems to be becoming more and more of an issue .....

:pctoss:fro

[blah28]

Bonner or Thomas for Finley?

uhhhhh, why?


can you read..because they are taller and can rebounder better and have longer arms and can clog up the middle more!

[T Park]

I'm amazed at how few whistles Duncan gets these days. Not just tonight ... but tonight was a pretty decent example. 18 field goal attempts before his first free throw? Ridiculous considering all the contact down low. This seems to be becoming more and more of an issue .....

:pctoss


That Joey Crawford affect seems to be rearing its ugly head.

[td4mvp21]

Ok Finley was the reason they lost

Happy ? :tu

:lol Wow.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Yeah, his jumper is way off and he hardly drove tonight. That thigh contusion is slowing him down a lot.

People forget how often these guys play injured, and of course it affects their performance.
His legs are definitely affected. Before he got hurt those shots go in, easy...

He should take a game off for "injury" or whatever on the Boston game. get 4 days of rest.

Although I think we dropped to 4th seed or somethng now.

[T Park]

can you read..because they are taller and can rebounder better and have longer arms and can clog up the middle more!

So your gonna have Bonner and Thomas guard Rip hamilton and Billups and the other guards?

Great!!!!

[1Parker1]

I'm amazed at how few whistles Duncan gets these days. Not just tonight ... but tonight was a pretty decent example. 18 field goal attempts before his first free throw? Ridiculous considering all the contact down low. This seems to be becoming more and more of an issue .....

:pctoss

I've been saying it for a while now. It's getting to be downright scary just how much contact the refs are letting opposing teams get away with when defending Duncan. In fact, it's becoming more and more blatant that the refs for some reason or another are just letting the calls go.

[T Park]

:lol Wow.

Your the one dropping the F bomb and getting all asshurt kiddo.

[ShoogarBear]

Maybe cause he hardly played in the second half?

He went out at the 4:45 mark of the third and never came back in.Uh, are you saying he had much of a impact in the minutes he played?

I would have thought that Kurt Thomas would be just what the doctor ordered for a game like this. Instead, he did a little more than Elson would have.

[T Park]

His legs are definitely affected. Before he got hurt those shots go in, easy...

He should take a game off for "injury" or whatever on the Boston game. get 4 days of rest.

Although I think we dropped to 4th seed or somethng now.


If Barry was back I'd agree, but with Udoka out, you gotta suck it up.

[1Parker1]

Wow, Spurs dropped to 5th seed? The West is insane...just last week the Spurs were in first place in the West!!

[T Park]

Uh, are you saying he had much of a impact in the minutes he played?

I would have thought that Kurt Thomas would be just what the doctor ordered for a game like this. Instead, he did a little more than Elson would have.

He made 1 of his 2 attempts and had 5 boards in what, 14 minutes?

He was relegated to Elson minutes.


What I'm saying is that had he gotten more minutes, especially down the stretch, he would've contributed more.

I don't know why you guys think he was gonna get like 20 boards in the short time he was out there...

[blah28]

So your gonna have Bonner and Thomas guard Rip hamilton and Billups and the other guards?

Great!!!!

did you watch the game? The team was playing zone at the end of the game!!! You can't be that stupid can you?

[Budkin]

I'm amazed at how few whistles Duncan gets these days. Not just tonight ... but tonight was a pretty decent example. 18 field goal attempts before his first free throw? Ridiculous considering all the contact down low. This seems to be becoming more and more of an issue .....

:pctoss

It's got to be because the refs are fed up with his constant whining after every missed basket.

[td4mvp21]

Your the one dropping the F bomb and getting all asshurt kiddo.

Uh, your arrogant posts get real old. And you make statements all the time that aren't necessarily correct and then when someone disagrees you retaliate with remarks that basically call them stupid. It's annoying and when I get annoyed I say fuck a lot :lol

[timvp]

Kurt Thomas sucked.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Now u guys are starting to see how i feel about the disrespect Melo gets from refs. He gets hammered down low so much and they hardly call anything. It gets frustrating coz it can change the flow of the game (as you guys know)

[Budkin]

And hell month continues. I hope we can gain some ground in April when Bones comes back and our rotations are set. Decent game tonight... wish we could have pulled out the W though.

[InK]

Well we wont be seeing any Laker fans today at least

[1Parker1]

Well, looks like Gasol sprained his ankle and Ray Allen sprained his ankle tonight.

Lakers lost, but Jazz, Hornets, and Rockets all rolled to wins.

[T Park]

did you watch the game? The team was playing zone at the end of the game!!! You can't be that stupid can you?


Against at a team with athletic guards like Detroit, you can't run out three bigs in Bonner, Thomas and Duncan.

You'd get eaten alive.

[InK]

Well, looks like Gasol sprained his ankle and Ray Allen sprained his ankle tonight.

Does it appear to be serious?

[ShoogarBear]

Kurt Thomas sucked.He didn't get enough minutes!

[T Park]

Uh, your arrogant posts get real old. And you make statements all the time that aren't necessarily correct and then when someone disagrees you retaliate with remarks that basically call them stupid. It's annoying and when I get annoyed I say fuck a lot :lol


Your disrespect and total flippant attitude and being an overall prick gets old with me as well jerkoff.

[timvp]

It's got to be because the refs are fed up with his constant whining after every missed basket.He's been doing that for like seven years now. And last year he was a bigger whiner than he is this year. I don't know any logical explanation for why he's getting less free throws than any time since his rookie season. His minutes and field goal attempts are actually up. He's shooting from the same spots on the floor.

The whistle just isn't coming this year for whatever reason.

[Harry Callahan]

loooots of jumpers.

Especially from Ginobili.

I did not get to see the game up here in Dallas, so thanks for the explanation. If Gino is tired and/or hurt that will be a big reason for a lack of FTs. Still, six free throws blows my mind.

I am glad Tony is getting back to being Tony. I was wondering where he was for a long while.

[td4mvp21]

Now u guys are starting to see how i feel about the disrespect Melo gets from refs. He gets hammered down low so much and they hardly call anything. It gets frustrating coz it can change the flow of the game (as you guys know)

He gets pampered by the refs. He averages nearly 2 more free throws than Duncan and he plays half of the game on the perimeter. I wish Duncan shot that many free throws.

[T Park]

He shouldve had 50 rebounds in 10 minutes the slacker!!!

[milkyway21]

score pls?

[blah28]

Against at a team with athletic guards like Detroit, you can't run out three bigs in Bonner, Thomas and Duncan.

You'd get eaten alive.

so having a 36 year old forward, who doesn't play defense or keeps getting out rebound by Prince, is a better option?

[loveforthegame]

It's all on Finley. Let me count the ways and be sure to add your own in case I missed some.

He's the only one not to play defense.
He's the only one to miss rotations.
He's the only one not protecting the basket.
He's the only one not guarding the perimeter.
He's the only one to miss his shots.
He's to blame for giving up so many rebounds.
He's the reason Duncan doesn't get any respect from the refs.
He's the reason for everyone else missing shots.
He's the only reason the bench sucks.
He's the reason Bowen was suspended.
He's the one that fucked up Ime's ankle.
He's the reason Barry was traded and now having to sit out 30 days.
He's the reason Pop didn't play Bonner.
He's the reason Ginobli is bone tired.

I know I'm missing many more but I got tired of listing all the reasons.

[duncan228]

I'm amazed at how few whistles Duncan gets these days. Not just tonight ... but tonight was a pretty decent example. 18 field goal attempts before his first free throw? Ridiculous considering all the contact down low. This seems to be becoming more and more of an issue .....

:pctoss

It's scary.
Something isn't right...

Everyone was bitching at Duncan whining for the no calls but it's obvious now that it's been going on and getting worse all season.

I have no clue why he's not getting the calls he deserves...even half the time. :bang

[T Park]

I did not get to see the game up here in Dallas, so thanks for the explanation. If Gino is tired and/or hurt that will be a big reason for a lack of FTs. Still, six free throws blows my mind.

I am glad Tony is getting back to being Tony. I was wondering where he was for a long while.


Yeah no excuse for the lack of Fts from Duncan and Parker, but Ginobili was parked outside all night.

[1Parker1]

Does it appear to be serious?

Don't know. I don't think Ray Allen's was that serious looking at the game replays.

[td4mvp21]

Your disrespect and total flippant attitude and being an overall prick gets old with me as well jerkoff.

:rolleyes

All I can say is ditto.

[T Park]

so having a 36 year old forward, who doesn't play defense or keeps getting out rebound by Prince, is a better option?


Not having Bowen or Udoka does that.

Whats so hard to understand.

[duncan228]

score pls?

84-80

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

If Barry was back I'd agree, but with Udoka out, you gotta suck it up.
We'll see. Just have to get a good win tomorrow.
That's probably why I'm not too bothered by this loss...

[T Park]

:rolleyes

All I can say is ditto.


Theres the door kiddo.

[blah28]

It's all on Finley. Let me count the ways and be sure to add your own in case I missed some.

He's the only one not to play defense.
He's the only one to miss rotations.
He's the only one not protecting the basket.
He's the only one not guarding the perimeter.
He's the only one to miss his shots.
He's to blame for giving up so many rebounds.
He's the reason Duncan doesn't get any respect from the refs.
He's the reason for everyone else missing shots.
He's the only reason the bench sucks.
He's the reason Bowen was suspended.
He's the one that fucked up Ime's ankle.
He's the reason Barry was traded and now having to sit out 30 days.
He's the reason Pop didn't play Bonner.
He's the reason Ginobli is bone tired.

I know I'm missing many more but I got tired of listing all the reasons.

He is the reason why we might not repeat :lol

[T Park]

We'll see. Just have to get a good win tomorrow.
That's probably why I'm not too bothered by this loss...

Eh, I don't doubt they could win tommarow, but itll be VERY tough,

Philly is playing damn good ball.

[T Park]

He is the reason why we might not repeat :lol

Count him out like last season.

That worked :tu

[td4mvp21]

Theres the door kiddo.

:lol There you go with more arrogant insults. Nice way to prove what I'm talking about.

[ShoogarBear]

The whistle just isn't coming this year for whatever reason.http://www.playersbehavingbadly.com/sitebuilder/images/Duncan_1-456x332.png http://www.nbaloud.com/userimages/user1195_1176812957.jpg

[blah28]

Not having Bowen or Udoka does that.

Whats so hard to understand.

What is the point of even arguing with you? I said I didn't blame Finley, I blamed Pop for not playing the other players at the end of the game when Finley kept missing his rotations and not rebounding. I understand we were missing Ime and Bowen. But with one minute left if your going to play zone he could have put in Thomas, who we all know players better defense even though he is a center!

But it's a moot point because obviously having Bowen and Ime back I don't have to worry about Finley playing defense at the end of games..happy :toast

[SpurAddict561]

Now u guys are starting to see how i feel about the disrespect Melo gets from refs. He gets hammered down low so much and they hardly call anything. It gets frustrating coz it can change the flow of the game (as you guys know)


Easily agreed...but Melo is NO Duncan, by any measure.

Duncan is the best PF of all time, non-Spurs fans agree whether they like to or not.

It's sickening man.

[T Park]

:lol There you go with more arrogant insults. Nice way to prove what I'm talking about.


Not arrogant, just fact.

Don't like me? Theres the door.

[T Park]

What is the point of even arguing with you? I said I didn't blame Finley, blamed Pop for not playing the other players at the end of the game when Finley kept missing his rotations and not rebounding. I understand we were missing Ime and Bowen. But with I minute left if your going to play zone he could have put in Thomas, who we all know players better defense even though he is a center!

But it's a moot point because obviously having Bowen and Ime back I don't have to worry about Finley playing defense at the end of games..happy :toast


You thinking Matt Bonner is the solution to a defensive problem is laughable.

[1Parker1]

Bright spot of tonight was without a doubt Parker. It was really nice to see him look and play the way he did last postseason against the Cavs when he won the Finals MVP. He had complete control of the Spurs offense, he had good balance of scoring/attacking the basket, passing, and to top it off he was defending Rip Hamilton on the other end. :tu

[ShoogarBear]

I have no clue why he's not getting the calls he deserves...even half the time. :banghttp://www.playersbehavingbadly.com/sitebuilder/images/Duncan_1-456x332.png http://www.nbaloud.com/userimages/user1195_1176812957.jpg

[blah28]

You thinking Matt Bonner is the solution to a defensive problem is laughable.

shit brain.. I said Thomas..read before you write..you moron!

[td4mvp21]

Not arrogant, just fact.

Don't like me? Theres the door.

:dramaquee Don't flatter yourself. Fortunately theres a plethora of posters on this board that make up for your own lack of respect.

[ShoogarBear]

Bright spot of tonight was without a doubt Parker. It was really nice to see him look and play the way he did last postseason against the Cavs when he won the Finals MVP. He had complete control of the Spurs offense, he had good balance of scoring/attacking the basket, passing, and to top it off he was defending Rip Hamilton on the other end. :tuToo bad he and Manu didn't switch games around. It'd be a prime time for another round of Tony bashing.

[blah28]

Too bad he and Manu didn't switch games around. It'd be a prime time for another round of Tony bashing.


I was definitely waiting to bash Tony :lol

I guess I will bash T Park instead :toast

[JamStone]

Definitely got some home-cooking whistles tonight. Won't even try to front. But, the officials let both teams play a lot most of the game. Spurs only got 6 free throws, which is amazing. Pistons got 15 free throws, but four of those were the Spurs fouling on purpose in the final seconds. Duncan should have gotten a couple of calls. There were a couple for the Pistons as well, Ratliff under the rim one time and Tayshaun on a drive could have gotten a foul and a few others. But, like I said, for the most part calls were in the home team's favor. It just wasn't completely lopsided. Refs let both teams play a lot.

[T Park]

shit brain.. I said Thomas..read before you write..you moron!

And bonner....

Thomas can't guard perimiter players either.

[SpursDynasty]

All I'm going to say is: The Spurs missed their point-blank shots in the 4th, played well enough to win, and once again, like 95% of our losses this season, it's a matter of shots not going down.

We need a jump shooting coach if there is one.

[T Park]

Too bad he and Manu didn't switch games around. It'd be a prime time for another round of Tony bashing.


Yeah wheres the trade Ginobili for (insert franchise's sg here) thread?

[1Parker1]

Too bad he and Manu didn't switch games around. It'd be a prime time for another round of Tony bashing.


Nonsense. The Church of Tony has resurfaced and is back in full force. We won't let anything derail us.

:)

[blah28]

And bonner....

Thomas can't guard perimiter players either.

They were playing zone..they weren't guarding man to man at the end of the game..how many times do I have to tell you this?

[T Park]

:dramaquee Don't flatter yourself. Fortunately theres a plethora of posters on this board that make up for your own lack of respect.


Pfftt :lol

I only have lack of respect for people that speak to me like you have.

[1Parker1]

^Besides, we already had the Trade Parker for CP3 thread bumped yesterday :)

[td4mvp21]

Definitely got some home-cooking whistles tonight. Won't even try to front. But, the officials let both teams play a lot most of the game. Spurs only got 6 free throws, which is amazing. Pistons got 15 free throws, but four of those were the Spurs fouling on purpose in the final seconds. Duncan should have gotten a couple of calls. There were a couple for the Pistons as well, Ratliff under the rim one time and Tayshaun on a drive could have gotten a foul and a few others. But, like I said, for the most part calls were in the home team's favor. It just wasn't completely lopsided. Refs let both teams play a lot.

Definitely. Duncan didn't get any respect but that has nothing to do with the fact that we lost. Spurs settled for too many jumpers over the course of the game anyway. Like you said, take away the 4 ft's at the end and that's 11-6 Pistons, definitely not a hack fest and I'd rather the refs let them play than call every little ticky tack thing. The Spurs maybe could have gotten one or two more calls but you are right. Congrats on the win :tu

[blah28]

Nonsense. The Church of Tony has resurfaced and is back in full force. We won't let anything derail us.

:)

Well we need Tony to be like this through out the rest of the season!

[T Park]

They were playing zone..they weren't guarding man to man at the end of the game..how many times do I have to tell you this?


So you play zone you don't have to attempt to stay in front of a quicker player?

[Pistons < Spurs]

Against at a team with athletic guards like Detroit,
Athletic guards? Billups? Athletic? Rip may have good stamina and run around alot, but athletic?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

The refs shouldn't be so petty against Duncan. They deserve their karma's payment.

[Ice009]

good lord.....and spurs fans say that only mav fans bitch about officiating.

sound like a bunch of pussies right now, get yourselves together.


I agree 100%. Too many people are laying in the fetal position. TIME to get the fuck up and kick some ass and take names. Somethings got to get the Spurs pissed off at some point and then the fire breathing dragon will return. The focus and desire will return. My guess is this will happen near play off time.

Edit: Those first two sentences was a bit harsh and I apologize. This game has got me pissed off. Spurs are better than this. I know they can do it.

[td4mvp21]

Pfftt :lol

I only have lack of respect for people that speak to me like you have.

Well of course I'm not going to be "nice" to you when you go around and disrespect everyone that disagrees with you. You obviously didn't like how I talked to you so take your own advice about respect. You make everyone sound like they are idiots, how is that in the least bit respectful? It's not.

[1Parker1]

All I'm going to say is: The Spurs missed their point-blank shots in the 4th, played well enough to win, and once again, like 95% of our losses this season, it's a matter of shots not going down.

We need a jump shooting coach if there is one.

:lol We have one; Chip Englland (sp?)

[Flight3107]

Spurs lose, and everyone picks on the fat kid.

[blah28]

Definitely. Duncan didn't get any respect but that has nothing to do with the fact that we lost. Spurs settled for too many jumpers over the course of the game anyway. Like you said, take away the 4 ft's at the end and that's 11-6 Pistons, definitely not a hack fest and I'd rather the refs let them play than call every little ticky tack thing. The Spurs maybe could have gotten one or two more calls but you are right. Congrats on the win :tu


Why do you say the SPurs settle for too many jumpers? Other than Parker and Manu and Duncan who posts up no other SPurs players can pentetrate. Manu sucked and Duncan didn't well until the end of the game. Of course they will end shooting jumpers. This team is a jump shooting team!

[blah28]

Spurs lose, and everyone picks on the fat kid.


well he stopped talking out of his ass then we would leave him alone :lol

[Spurologist]

thought from the game:

TP looks healthy. He looks to have his explosion to the basket back. He carried us for most of the fourth even though it wasn't in the cards tonight.

R. Horry was active. Blocked some shots out there. Hit a couple threes and hustled on the offensive board.

Manu needs to attack the basket a lot more. Too many careless possessions via either bad shots or turnovers. I'm surprised pop didn't go ape shit one manu like he did to the refs during the pacers game.

D Stoudemire still doesn't look comfortable out there. 2-10 fg. He isn't shy. But he can't just shoot blindly with defenders in his face even though pop wants him to shoot more.

J Vaughn is a competitor but realistically i'm not even sure he makes the cut in the D-league right now.

Zone was effective but you could tell how much pop hates the zone he when he switched to man in at least one possesion in the fourth (led to the bad foul by TP). This game suited Udoka/Bowen. Fuck the NBA for suspending Bowen. The video doesn't lie. CP was just as involved as Bowen. CP gets the benefit of the doubt because he's on the ground. It bullshit that his streak had to end this way.

Props to RIP for making his fts. He's usually due a miss or two in the clutch. I eat crow on that one.

Philly should brace themselves for an onslaught tomorrow.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Yeah wheres the trade Ginobili for (insert franchise's sg here) thread?
Kobe! Kobe! :hungry: :hungry:

T-Mac! T-Mac! :hungry: :hungry:

[1Parker1]

Philly just beat this same Pistons team the Spurs just lost to, two nights ago at Auburn Hills. Plus, they've been playing great basketball of late. Tommorow's going to be another tough game for the Spurs.

Good thing I am going to the game though :)

[td4mvp21]

Why do you say the SPurs settle for too many jumpers? Other than Parker and Manu and Duncan who posts up no other SPurs players can pentetrate. Manu sucked and Duncan didn't well until the end of the game. Of course they will end shooting jumpers. This team is a jump shooting team!

We do have a lot of one dimensional players, but there comes a time when we have to attack the paint. We don't ever do that enough in games. The Spurs are at their best when we are attacking the paint. That's how you get open looks for three pointers. Maybe if the Spurs tried attacking the paint more they would get better three point shots instead of jacking up 15 contested ones a game.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

:lol We have one; Chip Englland (sp?)
is he really that good??

I think the Mavs one is better.

[blah28]

thought from the game:

TP looks healthy. He looks to have his explosion to the basket back. He carried us for most of the fourth even though it wasn't in the cards tonight.

R. Horry was active. Blocked some shots out there. Hit a couple threes and hustled on the offensive board.

Manu needs to attack the basket a lot more. Too many careless possessions via either bad shots or turnovers. I'm surprised pop didn't go ape shit one manu like he did to the refs during the pacers game.

D Stoudemire still doesn't look comfortable out there. 2-10 fg. He isn't shy. But he can't just shoot blindly with defenders in his face even though pop wants him to shoot more.

J Vaughn is a competitor but realistically i'm not even sure he makes the cut in the D-league right now.

Zone was effective but you could tell how much pop hates the zone he when he switched to man in at least one possesion in the fourth (led to the bad foul by TP). This game suited Udoka/Bowen. Fuck the NBA for suspending Bowen. The video doesn't lie. CP was just as involved as Bowen. CP gets the benefit of the doubt because he's on the ground. It bullshit that his streak had to end this way.

Props to RIP for making his fts. He's usually due a miss or two in the clutch. I eat crow on that one.

Philly should brace themselves for an onslaught tomorrow.

Pop can't really go ape shit on Manu because Manu plays with the worst second unit in the Nba.

The Zone was pretty well too..but the Spurs were letting Detroit get a ton of offense rebounds from it..but it's understandible considering we could guard Detroit straight up.

[ShoogarBear]

Philly just beat this same Pistons team the Spurs just lost to, two nights ago at Auburn Hills. Plus, they've been playing great basketball of late. Tommorow's going to be another tough game for the Spurs.

Good thing I am going to the game though :)Take some pictures.




Besides ones of TP.

[timvp]

http://www.playersbehavingbadly.com/sitebuilder/images/Duncan_1-456x332.png http://www.nbaloud.com/userimages/user1195_1176812957.jpg*thinks about looking for tin hat picture*

Dammit. :depressed

[blah28]

We do have a lot of one dimensional players, but there comes a time when we have to attack the paint. We don't ever do that enough in games. The Spurs are at their best when we are attacking the paint. That's how you get open looks for three pointers. Maybe if the Spurs tried attacking the paint more they would get better three point shots instead of jacking up 15 contested ones a game.


Makes sense, but remember Manu is probably tired or affect with that hit he took last game..and other than Parker no other Spurs player can attack the rim.

[Ice009]

I've been saying it for a while now. It's getting to be downright scary just how much contact the refs are letting opposing teams get away with when defending Duncan. In fact, it's becoming more and more blatant that the refs for some reason or another are just letting the calls go.

I think they'll call those fouls for TD more in the playoffs. They just might want to the Spurs to have a really low seed, but I think he'll get more calls in the playoffs. Tim's just got to STAY AGGRESSIVE and keep attacking come playoff time.

[1Parker1]

is he really that good??

I think the Mavs one is better.

:lol He's ok.......he's only helped the likes of Grant Hill, Steve Kerr, and Tony Parker completely transform their jumpshots and make them respectable.

I don't know anything about the Mavs shooting coach. I'll look out for how Jason Kidd is looking and get back to you on that. :lol

[Pistons < Spurs]

Philly just beat this same Pistons team the Spurs just lost to, two nights ago at Auburn Hills. Plus, they've been playing great basketball of late. Tommorow's going to be another tough game for the Spurs.

Good thing I am going to the game though :)
Philly has been great for the last 20 games or so. Thadeus Young is playing some fantastic ball for a rook. And the other less known youngsters like Carney and Williams are also looking real good. I didn't mind toooooo much losing to them the other night the way they've been playing.

oh and have fun at the game!

[T Park]

Athletic guards? Billups? Athletic? Rip may have good stamina and run around alot, but athletic?
compared to Bonner and Thomas they are...

[T Park]

Philly has been great for the last 20 games or so. Thadeus Young is playing some fantastic ball for a rook. And the other less known youngsters like Carney and Williams are also looking real good. I didn't mind toooooo much losing to them the other night the way they've been playing.

oh and have fun at the game!

Yeah Philly has really turned on the jets.

They present some matchup problems.

Hopefully Kurt Thomas is given more than 8 minutes to play.

[1Parker1]

Take some pictures.




Besides ones of TP.


:lol I wasn't even planning on taking my camera. It's very hard to take pics if you have average seats (I'm in section 118). Plus, I'm usually way too into the game to take pics.

[duncan228]

Good thing I am going to the game though :)

Have a blast...and grab a couple of Duncan pics for me. :)

[1Parker1]

Have a blast...and grab a couple of Duncan pics for me. :)


How about I just give him a kiss for you! :lol :)

[duncan228]

How about I just give him a kiss for you! :lol :)

Pics are good. Thanks for the offer though. :)

[td4mvp21]

How about I just give him a kiss for you! :lol :)

:lol

[td4mvp21]

Pics are good. Thanks for the offer though. :)

:lol :lol

[1Parker1]

Pics are good. Thanks for the offer though. :)

:depressed I'll try anyway...

[JamStone]

Philly still sucks. Pistons should have been embarrassed the way they played against Philly, and it ended up a 1 point loss. Philly is young and athletic and I believe they are running a lot more with their younger players. But, realistically, they shouldn't be winning a lot of the games they've been winning lately.

Ok, I'll stop because I sound like SpursDynasty21.

Philly shoots some shots.

[duncan228]

:depressed I'll try anyway...

Some things are best done in person.
Have fun.

[blah28]

I'm going fishing in early May and the way the Spurs are playing I can probably get some good pictures with Manu, Tony, and Tim..let me know if anyone wants any? :lol

[Ice009]

WOW Chris Paul 27 and 17 in win over the Lakers. Is this kid the MVP?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

WOW Chris Paul 27 and 17 in win over the Lakers. Is this kid the MVP?
Little jerk. :lol

he can do no wrong,

the League is refers to him as "son" now.

[Tike Mailer]

Spurs fan, you've got my Mavs in a week, holmes.

[Killakobe81]

Im a Laker fan and im here were banged up and cant catch a break ...but all we need is to be healthy come playoffs and i like our chances I'd still rather play anyone else but the SPurs but its getting harder to consider you guys the favorites right now the way you are losing tough game down the strecth that you guys almost never lose the hornets game i understood they are playng well at home ...but the spurs own the close games ...something is wrong with Manu ...positive of gasol's injury now we have an excuse if we lose 3 out of 4 :blah ...i think Kobe/Phil finds a way to beat one of them my guess it's houston or dallas Utah is a beast at home ...

[MarceloM!]

We need more of Manu by these days... The month will come hardly.


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[J_Paco]

The refs shouldn't be so petty against Duncan. They deserve their karma's payment.

From looking at Timmy's game log (on nba.com), it seems that the calls are inconsistent from a game-to-game period. He'll get 9 free-throw attempts in two or three straight games, then he'll only take 1 in the following game and in the next he'll get 7. Seems like their calling the games pretty damn inconsistently, probably the best method as to not raise any eyebrows? :ihit :ihit :ihit