Where are the TP hatas?

[Holt's Cat]

26 pts
7 asts
4 rebs
3 stls

[T Park]

That CP3 thread is mysteriously missing...

[Brutalis]

I'm not a hater, but one good game out of several bad ones means nothing until you make it consistent.

[J_Paco]

He really cared the load for the team, tonight. Sadly, the team couldn't defensively rebound to save their life.

[Ice009]

Tony Parker played a great game tonight. Why make this thread? Why don't you shove it up your ass? Trying to stir up shit.


Tony Parker is a very tough player. The only things I can say bad about Tony is his crunch time decision making and his free throws. If he can get those two things worked out he'll rise up a level or two more.

[ShoogarBear]

I'm not a hater, but one good game out of several bad ones means nothing until you make it consistent.Of course, one could say the same thing about any player on the Spurs.

[whottt]

Of course, one could say the same thing about any player on the Spurs.


Hey Shoog...seen any Horry haters lately?

[ShoogarBear]

I'm not a hater, but one good game out of several bad ones means nothing until you make it consistent.

[J_Paco]

I'm not a hater, but one good game out of several bad ones means nothing until you make it consistent.

So, why not criticize Manu for playing like shit for the 2nd consecutive game. Plain and simple, people (haters) disregard Timmy and Manu's occasional struggles and attempt to magnify Tony's struggles. Well, tonight Tony held it down and deserve big-time credit.

[Holt's Cat]

TP and TD showed up tonight. Too bad Manu wasn't available.

[timaios]

Tony 12-18 66.7%
Rest of the team 23-63 36.5%

[Brutalis]

Of course, one could say the same thing about any player on the Spurs.
If you want. But I consider TP one of the big 4, that doesn't accept as many off nights he's been taking. Finley or Oberto get away with it easier.

[Holt's Cat]

Once the Spurs get back Barry perhaps Pop will be able to cut back Manu's minutes for a few games.

[ShoogarBear]

So we can be expecting you to criticize Manu, then?

[Brutalis]

So, why not criticize Manu for playing like shit for the 2nd consecutive game. Plain and simple, people (haters) disregard Timmy and Manu's occasional struggles and attempt to magnify Tony's struggles. Well, tonight Tony held it down and deserve big-time credit.
Actually I think when any one of them struggles, (Tim, Manu or Tony) it's blown up with hate.

Tony is not stepping up as much as Tim or Manu has so far this season. I choose not to hate on any of them but, TP has to build on tonight because the pressure is on him, put there by Pop.

[Brutalis]

So we can be expecting you to criticize Manu, then?
I haven't criticized any of them yet. It's obvious Parker hasn't been there mentally since being hurt and I think tonight is something to build on, as I said.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

So we can be expecting you to criticize Manu, then?Hey Shoog, for someone that hates the whole Tp vs Manu shit, you sure make a point of bringing it up every fucking single time. TP has a great game, and you immediately bring Manu into the picture. Seriously, you're about as bad as the CoM.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Great game by TP tonight by the way. The only one that played with any balls

[Holt's Cat]

TP has a bad game and it's time to trade him. Manu disappears in a significant game, like tonight, and no worries, right?

I see no problem with calling out this forum double standard.

[J_Paco]

Actually I think when any one of them struggles, (Tim, Manu or Tony) it's blown up with hate.

Tony is not stepping up as much as Tim or Manu has so far this season. I choose not to hate on any of them but, TP has to build on tonight because the pressure is on him, put there by Pop.

Uh, he's been struggling with an injury for a signficant chunk of the season. He's played well two straight games, against elite competition (C. Paul and Billups), yet you want to harp that he had a few bad games? Shit, what about Manu on Wednesday and tonight?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

TP has a bad game and it's time to trade him. Manu disappears in a significant game, like tonight, and no worries, right?

I see no problem with calling out this forum double standard.
Oh Boo fucking hoo.

[T Park]

Tony is not stepping up as much as Tim or Manu has so far this season

how far out of your colon did you have to pull that out of?

[Brutalis]

TP has a bad game and it's time to trade him. Manu disappears in a significant game, like tonight, and no worries, right?

I see no problem with calling out this forum double standard.
I think some stupid ass fans got the best of you. Why you listen to them and make a point of it in another thread like others do is tired.

[duncan228]

With all the Tony/Manu shit that goes on here I'm glad I'm a Duncan fan.
Both Churches hate on Duncan equally. :lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

i blame this loss on rasho

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'm not a hater, but one good game out of several bad ones means nothing until you make it consistent.

Out of his last 8 games, I'd say he's played fantastically in 4, well in 2 and poorly in 2.

It seems all fans have short memories.

[Holt's Cat]

Oh Boo fucking hoo.


Don't cry for me Argentina.

[T Park]

TP has a bad game and it's time to trade him. Manu disappears in a significant game, like tonight, and no worries, right?

I see no problem with calling out this forum double standard.

The church of Manu is gonna hunt you down now...

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Uh, he's been struggling with an injury for a signficant chunk of the season. He's played well two straight games, against elite competition (C. Paul and Billups), yet you want to harp that he had a few bad games? Shit, what about Manu on Wednesday and tonight?
Why the need to draw attention to any players bad nights?

Tim was sucking two weeks ago with a couple stinkers. Let our guys have a couple bad games. They're not robots. (Although Timmy comes close.)

These threads are pointless and kiddish, counting how many times a player gets praise vs. criticism. After a while it's like who cares, ti's always from the same stupid people against Manu adn Tony anyway.
The only annoying part, is it gets to the regular fans who puts it on themselves make threads like these to call out those posters. :lol

[it's me]

26 pts
7 asts
4 rebs
3 stls

What is it??? His second or third good game of the season… excellent and we even won the game…. Wait, wait.…. We lost …. Yea but TP had a good game, so what right???? sadly spurs looked better without him… :depressed

[Holt's Cat]

The church of Manu is gonna hunt you down now...

I'm not 'fraid of some fake Italians.

[J_Paco]

With all the Tony/Manu shit that goes on here I'm glad I'm a Duncan fan.
Both Churches hate on Duncan equally. :lol

They're all elite players and deserve almost equal credit (Timmy deserves a little more, IMHO). But, people seem to want to prop up one or two, while minimizing another. Well, they'd be the first to admit that their chemistry and trust in one another carries this team. I love'em all!

[Brutalis]

Uh, he's been struggling with an injury for a signficant chunk of the season. He's played well two straight games, against elite competition (C. Paul and Billups), yet you want to harp that he had a few bad games? Shit, what about Manu on Wednesday and tonight?
Are you fucking stupid? Read the thread, its replies. God Damn fools man, that's what ST is becoming. You and people like you getting a rise out of just plain opinions and facts from the season thus far. I haven't seen one person hate or as you say harp TP yet. It's just fact TP despite his injury has been slow to get back to 100%.

Fuck great he had two great games I am happy as a Spurs fan, fucking hooray. And we lost both. Get off his damn balls and lets hope he can keep it up like he did last season because we need it to repeat.

[Holt's Cat]

What is it??? His second or third good game of the season… excellent and we even won the game…. Wait, wait.…. We lost …. Yea but TP had a good game, so what right???? sadly spurs looked better without him… :depressed

Perhaps it would have been a win if Manu had contributed a little.

[duncan228]

I love'em all!

We all do, it's a team sport.

But here on ST, you'll find that the Manu/Tony war continues from season to season.

Get used to it. :)

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Don't cry for me Argentina.
I can't . I'm not an Argie Spurs fan.

I'm a Timmy bandwagoner.

[ShoogarBear]

Hey Shoog, for someone that hates the whole Tp vs Manu shit, you sure make a point of bringing it up every fucking single time. TP has a great game, and you immediately bring Manu into the picture. Seriously, you're about as bad as the CoM.Because the double standard is apparent every fucking single time.

If Tony and Manu had switched games tonight, there would be twenty separate threads talking about how great Manu was, and how he's the only player in the history of the Spurs with any guts or heart or will, and another fifteen separate threads about how shitty Tony was. But since that didn't happen, this is the only thread we get.

[jag]

I'll stick with T Park's theory on all the hate for Tony in San Antonio

[Brutalis]

Out of his last 8 games, I'd say he's played fantastically in 4, well in 2 and poorly in 2.

It seems all fans have short memories.
I'd say fantastic in 3, well in 3 and piss poor in 2. That's my opinion. Doesn't mean I have a bad memory. It means Tony can do better than that and I personally have seen it so maybe he keeps it up now. TP was more dependable than Manu at one time and now that the lines have crossed fans are flipping over some seriously stupid shit.

[J_Paco]

Are you fucking stupid? Read the thread, its replies. God Damn fools man, that's what ST is becoming. You and people like you getting a rise out of just plain opinions and facts from the season thus far. I haven't seen one person hate or as you say harp TP yet. It's just fact TP despite his injury has been slow to get back to 100%.

Fuck great he had two great games I am happy as a Spurs fan, fucking hooray. And we lost both. Get off his damn balls and lets hope he can keep it up like he did last season because we need it to repeat.

I'm sorry that I'm new here and you feel you can come at me any sort of way. But, I'm voicing my fucking opinion too. And, it's obvious that his injury had slowed him, yet he's slowly rounding back into form. I, like any Spur fan with common sense, realize that we need Tim, Manu and Tony to play at an elite championship-level to repeat. But, complaining or "harping on" the fact that Tony has struggled this season, which is completely obvious, is pointless if/when he turns it around.

Did you bitch and moan when people were happy that Tony won the Finals MVP?

[it's me]

Perhaps it would have been a win if Manu had contributed a little.

Well, now you wanna talk about manu :lol :lol the number 20 made you jump .. we need to win... that's all I'm trying to say

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Perhaps it would have been a win if Manu had contributed a little. Or if Bowen and Udoka weren't out. Or if we made more buckets them.
It was a team loss get over the Manu/Tp thing.

Also, who cares about the double-standard crap? That's just how fans are' they going to have favorites; live with it.
Unfortunately Manu sometimes get the golden boy treatment and then people try to compensate for that on the forum.
Get over yourselves. Demand for "Equal Praise" for everyone crap usually results in equal bashing here.

[Holt's Cat]

Tony doesn't speak Spanish, is black, and has a latina wife. No wonder the hate is strong.

[rezfly]

good game tonight. Spurs on par w/ Deeeetroit Baaaasketball (considering a close game at their arena). which means they have some improving to do before they'll be able to win another championship.

/can't believe the amount of trolls on this forum
//fears the wussifaction of US/UK

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii194/m1gunr/cd178bb4bc9d7c4773c32cb8fee6a913.gif

[Holt's Cat]

Or if Bowen and Udoka weren't out. Or if we made more buckets them.




All the more reason for Manu to step it up tonight.

[Brutalis]

Because the double standard is apparent every fucking single time.

If Tony and Manu had switched games tonight, there would be twenty separate threads talking about how great Manu was, and how he's the only player in the history of the Spurs with any guts or heart or will, and another fifteen separate threads about how shitty Tony was. But since that didn't happen, this is the only thread we get.
I believe you think you're claiming some truth when really you're digging a hole that's deep enough as it is.

It's like fads, what's hip and cool, the media. Why be apart of it within your own team? Who cares, really?

Manu has more support naturally because of his country and his number of fans. Tony doesn't have that. And Tony has been weened and milked since he was a baby coming over here. Now he's in his mid 20s and married to a superstar and got hurt at a crucial time. He's on a learning curb and learning how to come back and prove to everyone he can be the TP before the rings and marriage.

Not giving TP any excuses, but Manu is either on or off. And the offense has been running through mainly TD and Manu since TP was injured and they did a decent job. TP has been slower than expected to return to the status he made for himself and just because several horses hey over it doesn't mean it has to be a personal vendetta to call Manu out when he's been asked to do more this season than ever before in his career.

Frankly, I see no double standard. Other than what the fans create and depress over and crap like some statements in this thread prove that people are just drama queens.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

All the more reason for Manu to step it up tonight.
I wish he did.

Too bad he sucks right now.

[Brutalis]

I'm sorry that I'm new here and you feel you can come at me any sort of way. But, I'm voicing my fucking opinion too. And, it's obvious that his injury had slowed him, yet he's slowly rounding back into form. I, like any Spur fan with common sense, realize that we need Tim, Manu and Tony to play at an elite championship-level to repeat. But, complaining or "harping on" the fact that Tony has struggled this season, which is completely obvious, is pointless if/when he turns it around.

Did you bitch and moan when people were happy that Tony won the Finals MVP?

Well I am sorry if I'm brash. It's just I'm tired of people riding TP when he got himself here, he can perform if people on both sides back off. Call it harping, hating or whatever but TP has been the odd one out this year so far and he needs to just keep doing what he's done the past couple trips and hopefully things come together and the Ls turn to Ws.

[Kori Ellis]

Stop all the frickin lameness.

Parker was injured for several months. I don't know how anyone thinks his "inconsistency" this season is due to anything else but that. He's finally coming back into game shape and getting his legs under him and we should be thankful for that. The Spurs need the Big 3 and some role players to all be rolling if they a chance in hell of making it out of the West.

Enough with all the trash, all the time. It's almost playoff time .. Spurs fans need to start battling with the opponent's fans and stop taking on each other.

Here's hoping that Tony is getting into shape, Manu finds some time to rest, Timmy is in MVP form and Bruce is pissed off :toast

[Kori Ellis]

... TP has been the odd one out this year .

He was injured for several months. I know you get that, right?

[ShoogarBear]

Apparently not.

[Brutalis]

Stop all the frickin lameness.

Parker was injured for several months. I don't know how anyone thinks his "inconsistency" this season is due to anything else but that. He's finally coming back into game shape and getting his legs under him and we should be thankful for that. The Spurs need the Big 3 and some role players to all be rolling if they a chance in hell of making it out of the West.

Enough with all the trash, all the time. It's almost playoff time .. Spurs fans need to start battling with the opponent's fans and stop taking on each other.

Here's hoping that Tony is getting into shape, Manu finds some time to rest, Timmy is in MVP form and Bruce is pissed off :toast
I agree and am lame myself for letting all of it get the best of me. I am so ready for TP to get his wings back and it start opening more things up on offense because this season has put a lot of pressure on the players due to injuries and cohesiveness, timing.

Damon and Kurt are doing fine. I think we need to give SA some credit, played some tight defense tonight. Manu just struggled, Duncan struggled the first half, and we came back strong, showed some heart and areas to improve on. Detroit is an awesome team this season and we're not that far off, or as "off" as our own fans think we are.

[duncan228]

Spurs fans need to start battling with the opponent's fans and stop taking on each other.

Do you think that can really happen? I hope so, but I don't remember that ever happening. People here have always gotten into it as long as I've been hanging around. Shit, even when we won Titles they bitched at each other. :lol


Here's hoping that Tony is getting into shape, Manu finds some time to rest, Timmy is in MVP form and Bruce is pissed off :toast

I'm with you. :toast

[Brutalis]

He was injured for several months. I know you get that, right?
I know. I said in a different reply in more words.

I think Tony is fine, it's just injuries happen to everyone and it was his time, now he needs to keep doing what he's doing and show he can turn things on again is all. (like the last couple games)

[jag]

The TP hate on these boards is worse than the trolling. The guy was our Finals MVP and because he's French and doesnt speak Spanish he gets knocked on constantly.

[Ice009]

TP has a bad game and it's time to trade him. Manu disappears in a significant game, like tonight, and no worries, right?

I see no problem with calling out this forum double standard.

That's because we all think he is tired and injured. A thigh contusion is no joke. You don't get over them in a day or two.

TP is said to be healthy. TP needs to step up now and stay consistent. Great game from Tony tonight. Guys like Michael Finley, Damon Stoudamire, Jaque Vaughn, Robert Horry, Fabricio Oberto all need to take a long hard look at themselves and their individual games and realize they NEED TO step the fuck up.

[rob5]

26 pts
7 asts
4 rebs
3 stls
apparently not good enough

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'd say fantastic in 3, well in 3 and piss poor in 2. That's my opinion. Doesn't mean I have a bad memory. It means Tony can do better than that and I personally have seen it so maybe he keeps it up now. TP was more dependable than Manu at one time and now that the lines have crossed fans are flipping over some seriously stupid shit.

You said "one good game out of several bad ones", which is what I objected to. Now you're admitting that he has played at least "well" in 6 out of the last 8, I see that you didn't really mean what you said, or you didn't say what you meant very well which is clarified in your post quoted above.

Tony is not the problem with this team, nor is Manu or Tim. In fact, TP exemplifies the problem - he has footspeed where most of the rest of the team doesn't. The problem lies with the withered, old, inconsistent, one-dimensional role players we're trotting out. They are mostly past their prime in a league that is constantly getting younger, quicker, and more athletic.

Time to rewrite the Spurs' paradigm. The old one got us 4 rings in 9 years, but the NBA has moved on and this offseason we have to try and catch up by adding some youth, energy and athleticism.

[Holt's Cat]

That's because we all think he is tired and injured. A thigh contusion is no joke. You don't get over them in a day or two.



Neither are bone spurs.

[timvp]

It's pretty obvious that Spurs Nation either undervalues, underrates or underappreciates Tony Parker to an amazing degree. If you just went by what the average Spurs fan says about Parker, you'd think he was liability instead of a star young point guard. The one season where it's Parker the one who misses more games, suddenly being injured is somehow the fault of the injured player.

But yeah, one exciting aspect about this team is that the Big Three hasn't played well at the same time since November. And yet, they are still not far off the pace of past years. If Parker can continue getting healthier, Manu can get refuel and Duncan can turn it on, this team should be fine.

Go Los Espurs.

[Ice009]

Neither are bone spurs.

If Tony is injured they need to stop bullshitting us and telling us that his ankle is good now. I think even Tony himself said his ankle was pretty good a week or so ago. Tony has played pretty good lately apart from 2 or 3 bad games out of his last 8 or so, but he can still play better. He's not in top form yet so if he's healthy expect TP to play even better once he gets more games under his belt.

[T Park]

Tony doesn't speak Spanish, is black, and has a latina wife. No wonder the hate is strong.

Tony = Black

Manu = latino

Thats the reason SA is all gaga over Manu and hates on Tony.

Thats my theory, and JAG and others agree with it.

[carina_gino20]

I don't see the problem here except for the Tony vs Manu being perpetuated in every fucking thread.

Some idiots will always call out Tony for a bad game. You can't stop them but you can ignore them.

If you complain about the lack of threads calling out Manu about a game like this, be done with it and start that thread. Call him out.

If you complain about Tony not getting his props while Manu threads lord all over the board after a fantastic game, start an "Official Tony Parker is Awesome" thread.

Simple.

That said, Manu sucked bad tonight.

[Kori Ellis]

If Tony is injured they need to stop bullshitting us and telling us that his ankle is good now. I think even Tony himself said his ankle was pretty good a week or so ago.

I don't think he's injured now. However, he has been recovering from his injury and getting into game shape in the last few weeks - which is why people shouldn't expect instant consistency. Even as of last week, you could tell he hadn't got his wind/speed back. Hopefully, he will continue his road to full recovery and hopefully Manu can somehow get some rest. You could tell by his tone in his post game interview, he's really exhausted right now.

[duncan228]

...and Duncan can turn it on...

I vouch for this.
He not only can, he will.
I know it, I feel it.
Believe.

[T Park]

It's pretty obvious that Spurs Nation either undervalues, underrates or underappreciates Tony Parker to an amazing degree. If you just went by what the average Spurs fan says about Parker, you'd think he was liability instead of a star young point guard. The one season where it's Parker the one who misses more games, suddenly being injured is somehow the fault of the injured player.

But yeah, one exciting aspect about this team is that the Big Three hasn't played well at the same time since November. And yet, they are still not far off the pace of past years. If Parker can continue getting healthier, Manu can get refuel and Duncan can turn it on, this team should be fine.

Go Los Espurs.

Yeah thats what im holding on to.

Get Manu some sleep before the playoffs and the Spurs will be alright.

[timvp]

Probably got to through French into the equation but yeah, it's time for the petty regular season intra-Spurs Fan squabbling to be squashed. The Spurs gots some winnin' to do.

:smokin

[Kori Ellis]

But yeah, one exciting aspect about this team is that the Big Three hasn't played well at the same time since November. And yet, they are still not far off the pace of past years. If Parker can continue getting healthier, Manu can get refuel and Duncan can turn it on, this team should be fine.



:smokin

[Brutalis]

You said "one good game out of several bad ones", which is what I objected to. Now you're admitting that he has played at least "well" in 6 out of the last 8, I see that you didn't really mean what you said, or you didn't say what you meant very well which is clarified in your post quoted above.

Tony is not the problem with this team, nor is Manu or Tim. In fact, TP exemplifies the problem - he has footspeed where most of the rest of the team doesn't. The problem lies with the withered, old, inconsistent, one-dimensional role players we're trotting out. They are mostly past their prime in a league that is constantly getting younger, quicker, and more athletic.

Time to rewrite the Spurs' paradigm. The old one got us 4 rings in 9 years, but the NBA has moved on and this offseason we have to try and catch up by adding some youth, energy and athleticism.

Well my choice of words sucked, Tony is doing well lately. I guess I was wagering it more on the losses rather than the wins Spurs have had.

[J_Paco]

It's pretty obvious that Spurs Nation either undervalues, underrates or underappreciates Tony Parker to an amazing degree. If you just went by what the average Spurs fan says about Parker, you'd think he was liability instead of a star young point guard. The one season where it's Parker the one who misses more games, suddenly being injured is somehow the fault of the injured player.

But yeah, one exciting aspect about this team is that the Big Three hasn't played well at the same time since November. And yet, they are still not far off the pace of past years. If Parker can continue getting healthier, Manu can get refuel and Duncan can turn it on, this team should be fine.

Go Los Espurs.

Like I said earlier, I love and apperciate all three members of "The Big Three." Oh, I also love Bruce and believe he gets a bad rap, which is obvious when you see how the "mainstream media" (a.k.a. ESPN) crucified him yesterday.

(Side-note: Why haven't you responded to my PM, timvp?)

[Holt's Cat]

Getting Barry back in the mix for 15 minutes a night should help Manu and Finley.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Tony = Black

Manu = latino

Thats the reason SA is all gaga over Manu and hates on Tony.

Thats my theory, and JAG and others agree with it.
That's a stretch but not enough...there maybe some truth in helping Manu's favoritism, but most of it is bullshit

Tim is black.

IF Manu was an asshole, or just a shitty player and latino they wouldn't notice him.

For instance, if we had Najera on our team isntead of Manu, I'm sure no one would notice anyone more than a role player.

[ShoogarBear]

Should definitely help Manu. Finley, I dunno. His problem doesn't seem to be too many minutes or not enough open shots.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I don't see the problem here except for the Tony vs Manu being perpetuated in every fucking thread.

Some idiots will always call out Tony for a bad game. You can't stop them but you can ignore them.

If you complain about the lack of threads calling out Manu about a game like this, be done with it and start that thread. Call him out.

If you complain about Tony not getting his props while Manu threads lord all over the board after a fantastic game, start an "Official Tony Parker is Awesome" thread.

Simple.

That said, Manu sucked bad tonight.
Eh, I don't think we need to call out our players in threads.

If Tony, Tim or Manu have a bad game or stretch, I usually just don't say anything. I'm just looking forward to them playing better the following game. Why bitch about their bad games?

I don't even like saying Manu sucked tonight, he still did a good job getting some steals and making passes to Tim.

[Holt's Cat]

Should definitely help Manu. Finley, I dunno. His problem doesn't seem to be too many minutes or not enough open shots.

Manu
Bowen
Finley
Barry
Udoka

Two of the five should be able to show up every night.

[amy020]

TP kept shooting and seldom made a pass the the other teammates,especially to manu. the ball was in his hand for so many seconds,and when he made a pass, there was only very few seconds for the other player to shoot or pass,that'why only TP got the high percentage shooting. If you want to talk about his 7 assists,then you can see he only made some passes to TIM for some assists in the last 1or 2 minutes. It is just another game that TP became the leading scorer but the team score so few,and loss the game again!!!

[Holt's Cat]

Tonight TP passing the ball to himself made a lot of sense.

[Lady M]

TP kept shooting and seldom made a pass the the other teammates,especially to manu. the ball was in his hand for so many seconds,and when he made a pass, there was only very few seconds for the other player to shoot or pass,that'why only TP got the high percentage shooting. If you want to talk about his 7 assists,then you can see he only made some passes to TIM for some assists in the last 1or 2 minutes. It is just another game that TP became the leading scorer but the team score so few,and loss the game again!!!
i dont think we see the same game

[Kori Ellis]

TP kept shooting and seldom made a pass the the other teammates,especially to manu. the ball was in his hand for so many seconds,and when he made a pass, there was only very few seconds for the other player to shoot or pass,that'why only TP got the high percentage shooting. If you want to talk about his 7 assists,then you can see he only made some passes to TIM for some assists in the last 1or 2 minutes. It is just another game that TP became the leading scorer but the team score so few,and loss the game again!!!

:lol Good one.

[T Park]

Its another case of

is tony parker the best point guard in the NBA?

No.

Is he the best point guard for the San Antonio Spurs?

Hell yes.


Thats all that matters.

Keep doin yo thang Tony :)

[amy020]

I don't mean that tony is so bad,obviously he is good scorer,but if he make more passes,he will be better and the team will be better ,too. It's a team. only he kept scoring can't help to win.

[Brutalis]

It not so many words she sounds less stupid. I'll give her that.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I can see where Shoogar and the rest here come from. The Manu worshiping in this forum has gotten ridiculous. I agree more people call out Tony on his bad games than they do Manu on his. There is most definitely a double standard.

It just bothers me that all of a sudden being a Manu fan carries a negative connotation. On top of this, instead of people trying to disprove the idiotic criticisms Tony gets from truly clueless individuals with facts and insight, every f'n time, they bring Manu into the picture. It does nothing but perpetuate this ridiculous rivalry that exists solely on the minds of seriously misguided fans.

Every time someone rags on either Tony or Manu, some idiot feels they need to even the slate and criticize the other one. It truly is idiotic behavior, and it undermines what this team is all about. I've already read Manu's comments on the subject, and he was quite honestly and rightfully pissed at the suggestion that Tony somehow has a rivalry with him. He has already clarified the issue plenty of times, its quite sad really! it seems no one has been listening...

I won't even pretend to hope that this whole moronic debate is put to rest anytime soon, as it has been going on for longer than I've been in this forum and it will probably continue until one of them is fucking dead... not even then I think...

Here's to hoping stupidity has bounds :toast

[timaios]

I can see where Shoogar and the rest here come from. The Manu worshiping in this forum has gotten ridiculous. I agree more people call out Tony on his bad games than they do Manu on his. There is most definitely a double standard.

It just bothers me that all of a sudden being a Manu fan carries a negative connotation. On top of this, instead of people trying to disprove the idiotic criticisms Tony gets from truly clueless individuals with facts and insight, every f'n time, they bring Manu into the picture. It does nothing but perpetuate this ridiculous rivalry that exists solely on the minds of seriously misguided fans.

Every time someone rags on either Tony or Manu, some idiot feels they need to even the slate and criticize the other one. It truly is idiotic behavior, and it undermines what this team is all about. I've already read Manu's comments on the subject, and he was quite honestly and rightfully pissed at the suggestion that Tony somehow has a rivalry with him. He has already clarified the issue plenty of times, its quite sad really! it seems no one has been listening...

I won't even pretend to hope that this whole moronic debate is put to rest anytime soon, as it has been going on for longer than I've been in this forum and it will probably continue until one of them is fucking dead... not even then I think...

Here's to hoping stupidity has bounds :toast

+1

:clap :clap :clap

[whottt]

I can see where Shoogar and the rest here come from. The Manu worshiping in this forum has gotten ridiculous. I agree more people call out Tony on his bad games than they do Manu on his. There is most definitely a double standard.

It just bothers me that all of a sudden being a Manu fan carries a negative connotation. On top of this, instead of people trying to disprove the idiotic criticisms Tony gets from truly clueless individuals with facts and insight, every f'n time, they bring Manu into the picture. It does nothing but perpetuate this ridiculous rivalry that exists solely on the minds of seriously misguided fans.

Every time someone rags on either Tony or Manu, some idiot feels they need to even the slate and criticize the other one. It truly is idiotic behavior, and it undermines what this team is all about. I've already read Manu's comments on the subject, and he was quite honestly and rightfully pissed at the suggestion that Tony somehow has a rivalry with him. He has already clarified the issue plenty of times, its quite sad really! it seems no one has been listening...

I won't even pretend to hope that this whole moronic debate is put to rest anytime soon, as it has been going on for longer than I've been in this forum and it will probably continue until one of them is fucking dead... not even then I think...

Here's to hoping stupidity has bounds :toast



:tu

[it's me]

man... this guy Manu is awesome, he’s Latino and speaks Spanish that’s all that matters, that's why people love him, who cares about his game , we all know TP is tha man … finals MVP… so relax, not need to make a case for him..

[carina_gino20]

Eh, I don't think we need to call out our players in threads.

If Tony, Tim or Manu have a bad game or stretch, I usually just don't say anything. I'm just looking forward to them playing better the following game. Why bitch about their bad games?

I don't even like saying Manu sucked tonight, he still did a good job getting some steals and making passes to Tim.

Neither do I think we need to call them out in threads. If they sucked, there's no better judge than themselves. If we feel bad about their performance, they must be feeling hundred times worse. Each of them has their own off nights, some are just more ill-timed than others.

What I'm just saying is that if people are complaining about the previous stuff that I mentioned, they can choose to do something about it themselves.

I just wish we could all appreciate what they are and be thankful that these guys are playing for the Spurs.

[roycrikside]

Manu got 10 friggin shots. It's not like he had the ball a whole lot, and certainly not very much when Tim and Tony were in there with him. He was frozen out for long stretches of the game. Hell the first half he had 3 attempts.

[WalterBenitez]

Great to see TP playing at that level, that ankle is ready for playoffs, he was the weapon, :clap

But even that could involve more team mates in the game. :rolleyes

We should start creating a team around him, I mean TD and Manu are > 30, welll almost all the team is above 30 :oops

[romain.star]

I can see where Shoogar and the rest here come from. The Manu worshiping in this forum has gotten ridiculous. I agree more people call out Tony on his bad games than they do Manu on his. There is most definitely a double standard.

It just bothers me that all of a sudden being a Manu fan carries a negative connotation. On top of this, instead of people trying to disprove the idiotic criticisms Tony gets from truly clueless individuals with facts and insight, every f'n time, they bring Manu into the picture. It does nothing but perpetuate this ridiculous rivalry that exists solely on the minds of seriously misguided fans.

Every time someone rags on either Tony or Manu, some idiot feels they need to even the slate and criticize the other one. It truly is idiotic behavior, and it undermines what this team is all about. I've already read Manu's comments on the subject, and he was quite honestly and rightfully pissed at the suggestion that Tony somehow has a rivalry with him. He has already clarified the issue plenty of times, its quite sad really! it seems no one has been listening...

I won't even pretend to hope that this whole moronic debate is put to rest anytime soon, as it has been going on for longer than I've been in this forum and it will probably continue until one of them is fucking dead... not even then I think...

Here's to hoping stupidity has bounds :toast


great post
Cleverest Manu fan on ST

[mathbzh]

I don't mean that tony is so bad,obviously he is good scorer,but if he make more passes,he will be better and the team will be better ,too. It's a team. only he kept scoring can't help to win.

Pop first idea was to make TP a young Stockton... then he realised the best for the team was to let TP be himself, a score first PG. But I suppose you know more about BB than Pop.

[timaios]

Where are the TP hatas?

Here they are :
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/2008/03/updates_spurs_vs_pistons_1.html

That is just insane. On mysanantonio.com, 90% of the posters are Tony haters !
Even with the game he played against the pistons, it's all Tony's fault if they lose.

Pathetic.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

26 pts
7 asts
4 rebs
3 stls



and a loss



nice stat you left off

[romain.star]

Here they are :
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/2008/03/updates_spurs_vs_pistons_1.html

That is just insane. On mysanantonio.com, 90% of the posters are Tony haters !
Even with the game he played against the pistons, it's all Tony's fault if they lose.

Pathetic.


Woh... i mean... are those guys attending games in SA or are they all from Argentina??

Kori, be sure those posters never log in ST (although it looks like many of them do :( )

[T Park]

and a loss



nice stat you left off


Had Scola done that you'd have a tie around your neck wanting the climax to feel better.

[roycrikside]

The Scola haters really need to let it go. It's not a sin to admit that despite the four rings, nobody is perfect, even this FO. They screwed up badly not finding a way to keep him on the roster. He was clearly one of the best players in the world not already in the NBA these last few years and now that he is playing steady minutes, he is contributing mightily for the Rockets.

Sorry, but every time I see him playing for Houston, I can't help but think that he should be our starting PF and Duncan should be our starting C. The guy is a damn good player and we let him go for nothing.

This can never, ever, ever be rationalized or explained away to my satisfaction. Giving him away to a division rival no less! Lunacy.

[kace]

I can see where Shoogar and the rest here come from. The Manu worshiping in this forum has gotten ridiculous. I agree more people call out Tony on his bad games than they do Manu on his. There is most definitely a double standard.

It just bothers me that all of a sudden being a Manu fan carries a negative connotation. On top of this, instead of people trying to disprove the idiotic criticisms Tony gets from truly clueless individuals with facts and insight, every f'n time, they bring Manu into the picture. It does nothing but perpetuate this ridiculous rivalry that exists solely on the minds of seriously misguided fans.

Every time someone rags on either Tony or Manu, some idiot feels they need to even the slate and criticize the other one. It truly is idiotic behavior, and it undermines what this team is all about. I've already read Manu's comments on the subject, and he was quite honestly and rightfully pissed at the suggestion that Tony somehow has a rivalry with him. He has already clarified the issue plenty of times, its quite sad really! it seems no one has been listening...

I won't even pretend to hope that this whole moronic debate is put to rest anytime soon, as it has been going on for longer than I've been in this forum and it will probably continue until one of them is fucking dead... not even then I think...

Here's to hoping stupidity has bounds :toast


man, you post is awesome. it seems only a reasonnable post, nothing special, but coming from a manu's fan, i'm sorry to say it's not so usual.

you're right by saying we don't need to replace stupidity from some manu's groupies who need to bring manu's greatness after each game along with some TP bashing to make their night perfect. Of course, you never read them saying a little criticize of manu, even after horrible games.

these things are very tiring and i can understand the reactions from some people when they say that when TP is great and manu plays poorly, some manu's groupies even find a way to criticize tony.

i love manu, he's awesome. i love watching him play and i won't let anybody make me a manu's hater. but some manu's groupies overreactions on him and bashing on TP can become very annoying.

[T Park]

The Scola haters really need to let it go. It's not a sin to admit that despite the four rings, nobody is perfect, even this FO. They screwed up badly not finding a way to keep him on the roster. He was clearly one of the best players in the world not already in the NBA these last few years and now that he is playing steady minutes, he is contributing mightily for the Rockets.

Sorry, but every time I see him playing for Houston, I can't help but think that he should be our starting PF and Duncan should be our starting C. The guy is a damn good player and we let him go for nothing.

This can never, ever, ever be rationalized or explained away to my satisfaction. Giving him away to a division rival no less! Lunacy.


The Scola homers need to let it fucking go.

[Lady M]

i love manu, he's awesome. i love watching him play and i won't let anybody make me a manu's hater. but some manu's groupies overreactions on him and bashing on TP can become very annoying.
sometimes th Manu's groupies succeed i hate Manu

[stéphane]

I can see where Shoogar and the rest here come from. The Manu worshiping in this forum has gotten ridiculous. I agree more people call out Tony on his bad games than they do Manu on his. There is most definitely a double standard.

It just bothers me that all of a sudden being a Manu fan carries a negative connotation. On top of this, instead of people trying to disprove the idiotic criticisms Tony gets from truly clueless individuals with facts and insight, every f'n time, they bring Manu into the picture. It does nothing but perpetuate this ridiculous rivalry that exists solely on the minds of seriously misguided fans.

Every time someone rags on either Tony or Manu, some idiot feels they need to even the slate and criticize the other one. It truly is idiotic behavior, and it undermines what this team is all about. I've already read Manu's comments on the subject, and he was quite honestly and rightfully pissed at the suggestion that Tony somehow has a rivalry with him. He has already clarified the issue plenty of times, its quite sad really! it seems no one has been listening...

I won't even pretend to hope that this whole moronic debate is put to rest anytime soon, as it has been going on for longer than I've been in this forum and it will probably continue until one of them is fucking dead... not even then I think...

Here's to hoping stupidity has bounds :toast

I'm reading the forum every single day for a while now (3years now) but rarely post because of this whole manu/tony thing. I'm french so people go at me like i'm some kind of anti-manu incarnation lol
It's always good to read your posts Manumaniac one of the fiew posters that, just like me, like both of these great players and cheer for them no matter what...
Thank you

[BonnerDynasty]

Manu is greater than Tony. There is not one argument that can prove differently.

Take one star out of the big 3 and the Spurs fail. Period. It's that simple.