It Really Sucks To Be A Mavs Fan

[monosylab1k]

I'm just gonna lay it out there. I'm going to be more honest than I ought to.

I HATE being a fan of the Mavericks. It absolutely fucking blows.

The biggest mistake of my life was deciding that I liked the Mavericks and wanted to be a Mavs fan for life. An MFFL before MFFL existed.

Now I've got to watch this shit for 6 months a year.

My fondest memories are of teams that could barely win 20 games a season.

I hate basketball.





And fuck the Suns.

[monosylab1k]

Mothers, don't let your babies grow up to be Mavs fans. Unless of course you're a sadistic bitch who wants your babies to suffer torment & anguish every year from March to possibly May.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

And fuck the Suns.
:lol :tu

[mavs>spurs2]

Well said now let's form an angry mob and go kill Avery

[mavsfan1000]

Yes it sucks. Avery Johnson is just a horrible coach. Kidd of course is going to run out of gas if he has to guard Iverson the whole fucking game.

[Leetonidas]

Jump on the Spurs wagon.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Jump on the Spurs wagon.

[mavs>spurs2]

Yes it sucks. Avery Johnson is just a horrible coach. Kidd of course is going to run out of gas if he has to guard Iverson the whole fucking game.

As opposed to who? Who else on the Mavs roster can even think about guarding Iverson without getting embarrassed and lit up for 50 points?

[mavsfan1000]

As opposed to who? Who else on the Mavs roster can even think about guarding Iverson without getting embarrassed and lit up for 50 points?
Lue and Wright. Avery is just too brain dead to notice there are other options but he would rather run his starters into the ground.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Jump on the Spurs wagon.

http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/darth-vader.jpg

Yes Mono, come join us


and let your hatred for the Suns grow even more

[Amuseddaysleeper]

As opposed to who? Who else on the Mavs roster can even think about guarding Iverson without getting embarrassed and lit up for 50 points?


Coulda been TRENTON HASSELL



jk

[mavs>spurs2]

Lue and Wright. Avery is just too brain dead to notice there are other options but he would rather run his starters into the ground.

I'll give you Lue because of that one series where he did a good job on AI, but no way Wright is guarding him. But putting Lue on AI is just too logical for Avery.

[monosylab1k]

I can't jump on the Spurs bandwagon cuz I hate the Spurs. And it would be incredibly lame to jump ship from the Mavericks because I've loved them for so long.

I'm just going to have to be miserable every basketball season.

My "mistress" Eastern Conference team is the Hawks. So I've got that going for me :shootme

[The Nba Is Rigged]

You are absolutely right, this team sucks. No one can drive to the rim, no inside presence, the refs absolutely hate the mavericks, stern hates cuban, Dirk will probaly enter the hall of fame ringless, its just fucking atrocious being a mavs fan.

[mavsfan1000]

I can't jump on the Spurs bandwagon cuz I hate the Spurs. And it would be incredibly lame to jump ship from the Mavericks because I've loved them for so long.

I'm just going to have to be miserable every basketball season.

My "mistress" Eastern Conference team is the Hawks. So I've got that going for me :shootme
Why not the Celtics? 16 rings bitches. Doesn't get any better than that.

[Findog]

It is what it is. Just try to be a good fan, no matter how your team is doing.

[TexSports]

The San Antonio Spur Fans will welcome you MAV fans to the team! Come and enjoy the playoffs with us! You wont have to watch or tolerate Mark Cuban and Avery Johnson any longer!

[The Nba Is Rigged]

The San Antonio Spur Fans will welcome you MAV fans to the team! Come and enjoy the playoffs with us! You wont have to watch or tolerate Mark Cuban and Avery Johnson any longer!

I'd watch the Orlando Magic if anything...

[monosylab1k]

The San Antonio Spur Fans will welcome you MAV fans to the team! Come and enjoy the playoffs with us! You wont have to watch or tolerate Mark Cuban and Avery Johnson any longer!
Do you Spurs fans REALLY want that?

I promise you, if I jump ship to the Spurs, they WILL get swept in the first round. I have THAT MUCH bad mojo built up right now.

I have the anti-Midas touch right now. Any team I root for WILL suffer embarrassing defeat and epic failure.

[Findog]

You don't want to be a bandwagoner. It's just too bad that rooting for the Mavericks is excruciating, whether they're good (blowing a 2-0 Finals lead, losing in the 1st round after winning 67) or bad (11 straight years w/o playoffs).

[mavsfan1000]

You don't want to be a bandwagoner. It's just too bad that rooting for the Mavericks is excruciating, whether they're good (blowing a 2-0 Finals lead, losing in the 1st round after winning 67) or bad (11 straight years w/o playoffs).
Well it would suck big time to wait 7 months before you can root for Dallas again. I'm going for the Celtics since I can't live without some team to root for that long.

[Findog]

Well it would suck big time to wait 7 months before you can root for Dallas again. I'm going for the Celtics since I can't live without some team to root for that long.

Eh, I feel better when this team has no shot at winning a title, when there are no expectations and any success is just gravy. Maybe they never did have a chance to win a championship, but getting to the Finals and having one of the all-time great regular seasons would make you think otherwise.

[Findog]

Only question is, do I eat the failure pile now or when they are *officially* eliminated?

[Findog]

I'm not even mad or sad about what happened this season, I just want the Mavs taken out behind the house and put out of their misery with a shotgun. This team needs a mercy killing.

[Jack Sommersset]

I feel sorry for those bastards. Also to have a former Spur running the team into the ground, m m m m that would sting. I still don't know what Mark Cuban was thinking when he hired a unproven coach to take over a top 5 NBA team with a huge upside when he could have hired an expierence coach.. I do know one thing, Avery is fired and Mavs fans can only dream of what could have been.I didn't think the Kidd trade as smart just beccause you gave away a big part of ur future. I had no clue it would make them worse this year. I mean those guys are going to miss the playoffs.

[monosylab1k]

Only question is, do I eat the failure pile now or when they are *officially* eliminated?
I'll at least give them until they're officially out of it, but that's only a couple of weeks away.

[Findog]

I feel sorry for those bastards. Also to have a former Spur running the team into the ground, m m m m that would sting. I still don't know what Mark Cuban was thinking when he hired a unproven coach to take over a top 5 NBA team with a huge upside when he could have hired an expierence coach.. I do know one thing, Avery is fired and Mavs fans can only dream of what could have been.I didn't think the Kidd trade as smart just beccause you gave away a big part of ur future. I had no clue it would make them worse this year. I mean those guys are going to miss the playoffs.

Mav fans have a bad reputation on this board, but not all of us bandwagoning troll douchebags. I've bled blue and green since Mark Aguirre and Rolando Blackman. The last 21 months have been one nutkick after another. Even winning the 67 games wasn't that enjoyable, it was like "Okay, this is nice, but I can't wait until April." And then we know what happened after that.

[Findog]

I'll at least give them until they're officially out of it, but that's only a couple of weeks away.

Yeah, the guys at work were planning on going to Angelo's Italian Grill tomorrow for the lunch buffet, I didn't want to miss out on that for Colonel Sanders pile of shit.

[mavs>spurs2]

Only question is, do I eat the failure pile now or when they are *officially* eliminated?

I'm going to eat mine with the satisfaction of knowing that i'll never have to watch a meltdown of such epic proportions ever again after they blow up the team this summer.

[lurker]

I think I'm going to start wearing a paper bag mask over my head during games. I don't want anyone to see me watching the Mavericks.

[monosylab1k]

I'll get tickets to the final home game of the year, if only to annoy everybody with a big "Fire Avery" sign.

[Findog]

What music will you listen to on your IPOD while eating your failure pile? I'm currently considering "Nevertheless" by the Brian Jonestown Massacre, as well as "Willie" by Cat Power.

[mavs>spurs2]

What music will you listen to on your IPOD while eating your failure pile? I'm currently considering "Nevertheless" by the Brian Jonestown Massacre, as well as "Willie" by Cat Power.

I don't have an IPOD I wasted all my money on fucking season tickets.

[monosylab1k]

I'm thinking "Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime" by Beck. or maybe "Lost Cause" by Beck. Basically anything off of Sea Change will do.

[JohnnySixString]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/reaper_chevelle/kiddcuban.jpg

[Findog]

Blow it up, Flush it out:

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[ludda]

Is this a surprise? Mavs couldn't get it done when they practically had the championship right in front of their grasp having a 2-0 lead. What makes anyone think the Mavs had a good shot in a much tougher Western conf? A small bright side for Mav fans is maybe the reality will set in with the FO, nothing was addressed really after all their failures.

[Kobe62Mavs61]

Look at the bright side. At least no one will be able to say Dirk choked in the playoffs. :lol

[mavs>spurs2]

Look at this cool new troll. You registered to say that shit?

[Hemotivo]

I'd watch the Orlando Magic if anything...
disney lover :p:

[GuerillaBlack]

They blew the game in the second half. In the fourth quarter, Denver ran off almost two whole minutes by just getting the rebounds and running out the clock. The Mavs couldn't even touch the ball. But seriously, did anyone really think the Mavs were going to beat Denver without Dirk?

[monosylab1k]

There's too many people you used to know
They see you coming, they see you go
They know your secrets, and you know theirs
This town is crazy, nobody cares

I'm tired of fighting
Tired of fiiiiighting
Fighting for a lost cause

[sribb43]

Well atleast we can watch the NBA draft this summer and actually have some interest in it

[Amuseddaysleeper]

^^

Sea Change was the best album of Beck's career, I don't care what anyone says.



And Mav fans, while things look shitty now, I have no doubt that one AJ is fired and some tweaking is done this offseason, you guys will return as title contenders.

You still have Dirk, and a decent future with an up and coming Bass

[The Nba Is Rigged]

How much can a person take from this team? This team really knows how to punish its fans

[ElNono]

After all the trash talking and BS throughout that last 3 or so years, I am definitely enjoying watching your team implode. Especially seeing Cuban FAIL over and over again.

[Findog]

After all the trash talking and BS throughout that last 3 or so years, I am definitely enjoying watching your team implode. Especially seeing Cuban FAIL over and over again.

Yeah, but those fair-weather fans are long gone.

[Findog]

Here's another bright side to missing the playoffs: More time for internet porn, less time for Spurstalk.

[Phil Hellmuth]

spurs fans, don't give in too sympathy for dallas, we will always hate them, just remember the ginobili foul every 20 seconds to regain your mavericks hate.

[monosylab1k]

How much can a person take from this team? This team really knows how to punish its fans
Being a Mavs fan is nothing but nonstop punches to the groin.

If I ever have children in this cruel world, I just might encourage them to be Spurs fans. For their own good. So that they can enjoy all the things I never got to enjoy. I'm too far gone, but I can always save my kids from a life of suffering through shitty basketball.

[mavs>spurs2]

Being a Mavs fan is nothing but nonstop punches to the groin.

If I ever have children in this cruel world, I just might encourage them to be Spurs fans. For their own good. So that they can enjoy all the things I never got to enjoy.

All those punches to the groin might prevent you from even having kids. Just think, you might have to watch some dude fuck your bitch just to have kids and it's all Avery's fault.

[mavsfan1000]

All those punches to the groin might prevent you from even having kids. Just think, you might have to watch some dude fuck your bitch just to have kids and it's all Avery's fault.
:lmao

[ElNono]

All those punches to the groin might prevent you from even having kids. Just think, you might have to watch some dude fuck your bitch just to have kids and it's all Avery's fault.

Wow, you Dallas dudes ARE weird.

[Shank]

I'm thinking of cutting a hole in the front of my adult diaper, tossing on a blanket for a cape, pretending I'm Superman and sucking my thumb while masturbating into my KFC bowl.

[spurms]

blame cuban, it was not avery who force cuban to trade for jason kidd! Cuban forced the issue, avery didnt like it, but cuban was a dictator so he had to play along, now the mavs paid the priced of having an aging point guard who will sacrifice defensive duty just to grab the extra boards.

[mavs>spurs2]

blame cuban, it was not avery who force cuban to trade for jason kidd! Cuban forced the issue, avery didnt like it, but cuban was a dictator so he had to play along, now the mavs paid the priced of having an aging point guard who will sacrifice defensive duty just to grab the extra boards.

We sacrificed a lot more than just defense with that trade. Shooting, slashing, scoring, speed, youth, upside, etc.

[mystargtr34]

:lol this is amazing...

but seriously...even with Dirk... you probably lose this game... its not lke you should have expected to win this game...

Denver is one of the best home teams in the league .. any team would likely lose this game.

[mavsfan1000]

We sacrificed a lot more than just defense with that trade. Shooting, slashing, scoring, speed, youth, upside, etc.
Don't forget shotblocking. Diop was a beast as a backup and was underutilized thanks Avery. Diop was always a solid backup that never got the minutes he deserved. I don't care about the fouls and his offense. He was a live body that caused problems to other teams looking for easy points.

[Findog]

:lol this is amazing...

but seriously...even with Dirk... you probably lose this game... its not lke you should have expected to win this game...

Denver is one of the best home teams in the league .. any team would likely lose this game.

It's not necessarily that. Just being in this position to begin with.

[Shank]

blame cuban, it was not avery who force cuban to trade for jason kidd! Cuban forced the issue, avery didnt like it, but cuban was a dictator so he had to play along, now the mavs paid the priced of having an aging point guard who will sacrifice defensive duty just to grab the extra boards.

You couldn't be any more wrong. You think it was Kidd's fault they lost tonight? The loss wasn't on any of the players. It was on Avery and his bullshit, predictable offense, his questionable lineup changes and his ever-falling IQ as an NBA head coach. Real nice of Avery to rack up that T when his team is down 1. Real smart coach. Next thing you know, Nuggets are up 8 and continue to roll from there.

The turmoil has nothing to do with Kidd or any of the players. They're just doing what they're told. This is all on the coach.

[mystargtr34]

We sacrificed a lot more than just defense with that trade. Shooting, slashing, scoring, speed, youth, upside, etc.

Perimeter defense, interior defense, size, Tim Duncan defender

[Findog]

You couldn't be any more wrong. You think it was Kidd's fault they lost tonight? The loss wasn't on any of the players. It was on Avery and his bullshit, predictable offense, his questionable lineup changes and his ever-falling IQ as an NBA head coach. Real nice of Avery to rack up that T when his team is down 1. Real smart coach. Next thing you know, Nuggets are up 8 and continue to roll from there.

The turmoil has nothing to do with Kidd or any of the players. They're just doing what they're told. This is all on the coach.

Please tell me that you have the inside scoop on Avery's final days.

[spurms]

We sacrificed a lot more than just defense with that trade. Shooting, slashing, scoring, speed, youth, upside, etc.

yes and mark cuban always have a hardon for brokeback kidds. yeehaa. This trade was more about emotional attachment than common sense.

[mavsfan1000]

All this team needed was a quality shooting guard. Cuban fucked it all up though and changed the position that was one of our strengths already. Fucking stupid.

[Shank]

Please tell me that you have the inside scoop on Avery's final days.

I've heard things. Nothing definitive, though. If it does happen, it's going to be some weak-ass, mutual stepdown, not the harsh "YOU'RE A FUCKING CUNT! YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY FUCKING OFFICE!!!" firing we all hope to see.

[JohnnySixString]

blame cuban, it was not avery who force cuban to trade for jason kidd! Cuban forced the issue, avery didnt like it, but cuban was a dictator so he had to play along, now the mavs paid the priced of having an aging point guard who will sacrifice defensive duty just to grab the extra boards.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/reaper_chevelle/kiddcuban.jpg

[Findog]

I've heard things. Nothing definitive, though. If it does happen, it's going to be some weak-ass, mutual stepdown, not the harsh "YOU'RE A FUCKING CUNT! YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY FUCKING OFFICE!!!" firing we all hope to see.

The weird thing is that from the moment he took over to up until 5 minutes left in G3 against Miami, he could do no wrong, or so it seems. Making them focus on defense, getting the most out of mismatches with Dirk, Devin and Josh against the Spurs in that series, neutralizing Boris Diaw with Diop in the conference finals, and since then, it just seems like he can't do anything right. Even having them go all out last year in the regular season was bad, because they peaked and played their best basketball in Feb/March.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

I hope Avery is fired and this team gets blown up at this point. Every team that considers themselves contenders has a reliable second person they can count on. Examples are Houston T-mac and Yao, Denver- Melo and A.I, New Orleans- Chris Paul and David West, LA- Kobe and Bynum or Kobe and Gasol. Here in Dallas its Dirk Nowitzki and the low b-ball iq, dumbass Josh Howard. The sad part is that when the mavs lose people say "Look at all the talent around Dirk!!". "Dirk is such a choker he can't even lead that talented team to a championship!" This team needs to be blown up and I don't mind if Dirk is traded to cleveland or somewhere I just want Dirk to succeed. Fuck Mark Cuban and Avery Johnson.

[BonnerDynasty]

Just enjoy when the Suns get booted.

That will be good times.

[Shank]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/reaper_chevelle/kiddcuban.jpg

I don't understand, man. Is this supposed to mean something? Or are you just fucking retarded in thinking posting the same picture is supposed to have some profound effect?

[JohnnySixString]

I don't understand, man. Is this supposed to mean something? Or are you just fucking retarded in thinking posting the same picture is supposed to have some profound effect?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/reaper_chevelle/kiddcuban.jpg

Best decision. Ever.

[Findog]

I don't understand, man. Is this supposed to mean something? Or are you just fucking retarded in thinking posting the same picture is supposed to have some profound effect?

Cuban looks sad! Did it not sink in the 18th time you saw it?

[Phil Hellmuth]

that photo is a great picture showing the basis of their season:

1. Cuban
2. Kidd
3. Terry looking like a crybaby
4. Dirk is not in the equation

[Shank]

Best decision. Ever.

Dipshit. I'd start to argue with you, but I know you don't have a fucking clue what you'd be talking about. So I'll just stick to the childish namecalling, call you a queer and be done with it.

[Findog]

Just enjoy when the Suns get booted.

That will be good times.

That and hearing "With the 14th pick in the 2008 NBA Draft, the Dallas Mavericks select Kevin Love...." is pretty much the only thing to look forward to.

Fuck the Suns!

[ludda]

:lol

it will be a busy offseason for the Mavs, something that was needed after GS IMO for that team.

[Findog]

that photo is a great picture showing the basis of their season:

1. Cuban
2. Kidd
3. Terry looking like a crybaby
4. Dirk is not in the equation

This season isn't on Dirk.

[Phil Hellmuth]

This season isn't on Dirk.

technically, no, but in the equation that the west is tight, then yes it is by unfortunate circumstances. mavs wouldve made playoffs if dirk is healthy.

[JohnnySixString]

Dipshit. I'd start to argue with you, but I know you don't have a fucking clue what you'd be talking about. So I'll just stick to the childish namecalling, call you a queer and be done with it.

What's to argue about? Mark Cuban is a moron. But I'm guessing you'd sooner suck on his balls than call him an idiot.

[Shank]

that photo is a great picture showing the basis of their season:

1. Cuban
2. Kidd
3. Terry looking like a crybaby
4. Dirk is not in the equation

No Avery? Fail.

[Findog]

technically, no, but in the equation that the west is tight, then yes it is by unfortunate circumstances. mavs wouldve made playoffs if dirk is healthy.

Oh, I agree with that. 9 good teams, 8 spots, it's musical chairs and the Mavs lost out by an injury to their best player at the worst possible time. Thing is, they pretty much would've clinched a playoff spot with a win tonight. Due to the tiebreaker at stake, it was a 3-game swing for both teams.

[Findog]

No Avery? Fail.

It's amazing how a lot of Spurs fans want to let Avery off the hook for the Mavs failures. It's not all on Avery, and him leaving doesn't come close to completely fixing what's wrong with this team, but head coach is a weakness for us at this point.

[monosylab1k]

I just ordered a t-shirt from FireAvery.com

I'm going to get tickets to the last home game, wear my shirt, use the free posterboard & markers to make myself a nice "Fire Avery" sign, and just be as obnoxious as possible.

It's gonna be great.

[Shank]

What's to argue about? Mark Cuban is a moron. But I'm guessing you'd sooner suck on his balls than call him an idiot.

I'd argue that Kidd and the trade aren't the issue. It's Avery, his tactics, his coaching style, his bullshit offense, his over-coaching, his micromanagement, his refusal to let the younger players make a mark (Wright this evening), his supposed "system", his teat-suckling on all things Spur that he thought he'd bring to Dallas and his Arnold haircut.

[Kobe62Mavs61]

You can always go :fishing

[Findog]

You can always go :fishing

We don't do that. We go to KFC and eat a bowl and listen to sad music.

[spurms]

It's amazing how a lot of Spurs fans want to let Avery off the hook for the Mavs failures. It's not all on Avery, and him leaving doesn't come close to completely fixing what's wrong with this team, but head coach is a weakness for us at this point.

IT's not avery to bring down the house, and mavs future for the next 5 seasons, by trading away a star pg, for an aging one who have no trade value, takes up way too much cap space for what he's worth, and now the mavs are totally screwed, it's all on cuban!

[JohnnySixString]

I'd argue that Kidd and the trade aren't the issue. It's Avery, his tactics, his coaching style, his bullshit offense, his over-coaching, his micromanagement, his refusal to let the younger players make a mark (Wright this evening), his supposed "system", his teat-suckling on all things Spur that he thought he'd bring to Dallas and his Arnold haircut.


I agree with you on Avery. However, Kidd and the trade, is definitely an issue as well.

[Findog]

IT's not avery to bring down the house, and mavs future for the next 5 seasons, by trading away a star pg, for an aging one who have no trade value, takes up way too much cap space for what he's worth, and now the mavs are totally screwed, it's all on cuban!

kidd's contract is off the books next summer, avery hasnt adjusted the offense to play to his strengths. if avery didnt want kidd, he shouldve said so. i dont think cuban wouldve initiated the move if avery put his foot down. you dont change your starting pg if the coach isnt on board. the way the mavs work, everything is done by consensus. avery and donnie were on board.

[spurms]

kidd's contract is off the books next summer, avery hasnt adjusted the offense to play to his strengths. if avery didnt want kidd, he shouldve said so. i dont think cuban wouldve initiated the move if avery put his foot down. you dont change your starting pg if the coach isnt on board. the way the mavs work, everything is done by consensus. avery and donnie were on board.

Haha as a mavs fan you should know what happen if avery dared speak out against the stalinist cuban.

[Indazone]

http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/darth-vader.jpg

Yes Mono, come join us


and let your hatred for the Suns grow even more

LMAO :toast

[ludda]

IT's not avery to bring down the house, and mavs future for the next 5 seasons, by trading away a star pg, for an aging one who have no trade value, takes up way too much cap space for what he's worth, and now the mavs are totally screwed, it's all on cuban!

Did I miss when Harris became an allstar?

It's easy to say "Dirk is a choker" etc, but I always thought Avery was overrated when everyone was licking his nuts. When things are tough, you can see his true colors (whiny, breakdowns, etc).

[mavs>spurs2]

Since when does Cuban call the shots on trades and roster moves. What basketball background did he come from again? Is he like a retired hall of fame coach and no one decided to tell me?

[spurms]

i saw avery's face in that press conference for the kidd trade, he looks really sad, i havent seen him so sad, and cuban was beaming like jesus christ!

[JohnnySixString]

Since when does Cuban call the shots on trades and roster moves. What basketball background did he come from again? Is he like a retired hall of fame coach and no one decided to tell me?

In his own mind I'm sure he thinks he is.

[Findog]

i saw avery's face in that press conference for the kidd trade, he looks really sad, i havent seen him so sad, and cuban was beaming like jesus christ!

compelling evidence. i am convinced.

[spurms]

Since when does Cuban call the shots on trades and roster moves. What basketball background did he come from again? Is he like a retired hall of fame coach and no one decided to tell me?

cuban missed kidd ever since he left dallas, you can tell he's willing to sell away the mavs future for a great comeback kidd story leading the mavs to the championship, and cuban and kidd sharing a kiss at the podium, alas it's not to happen.

[Findog]

Did I miss when Harris became an allstar?

It's easy to say "Dirk is a choker" etc, but I always thought Avery was overrated when everyone was licking his nuts. When things are tough, you can see his true colors (whiny, breakdowns, etc).

i think its becoming clear dirks supporting cast has been overrated.

[Findog]

cuban missed kidd ever since he left dallas, you can tell he's willing to sell away the mavs future for a great comeback kidd story leading the mavs to the championship, and cuban and kidd sharing a kiss at the podium, alas it's not to happen.


:blah :blah :blah :blah

[mavs>spurs2]

cuban missed kidd ever since he left dallas, you can tell he's willing to sell away the mavs future for a great comeback kidd story leading the mavs to the championship, and cuban and kidd sharing a kiss at the podium, alas it's not to happen.

Um..how could Cuban miss Kidd when he was gone long before Cuban even bought the team?

[Findog]

The only issue I have with the trade is that it should've been done last summer or the coming offseason, instead of at the trading deadline.

[SpursFanFirst]

Jump on the Spurs wagon.

He will soon enough. :dramaquee

[Indazone]

He will soon enough. :dramaquee


You cannot hide forever.

Give yourself to the Dark Side. It is the only way you can save your friends. Yes, your thoughts betray you. Your feelings for them are strong.

:cooldevil

[The Nba Is Rigged]

I just ordered a t-shirt from FireAvery.com

I'm going to get tickets to the last home game, wear my shirt, use the free posterboard & markers to make myself a nice "Fire Avery" sign, and just be as obnoxious as possible.

It's gonna be great.

I really appreciate your effort, we need more fans like you.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

:madrun :madrun :madrun WOW! Guy we were without Dirk and we play our hearts out. Im fucking proud of this team. They will beat Golden State on Sunday for sure now and Dirk will be back after that game. Then kick back and enjoy the run to championship #1 for the Mavs. :clap :clap :clap

[monosylab1k]

:madrun :madrun :madrun WOW! Guy we were without Dirk and we play our hearts out. Im fucking proud of this team. They will beat Golden State on Sunday for sure now and Dirk will be back after that game. Then kick back and enjoy the run to championship #1 for the Mavs. :clap :clap :clap
just stop

[monosylab1k]

He will soon enough. :dramaquee
i guess people know a thing or two about jumping on bandwagons when they root for the Spurs, Colts, Cowboys, and Notre Dame.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

just stop

Im sorry but I cant. My heart believes in this team. They have as good of a chance as anyone to win it all as long as they make the playoffs healthy which they will. They are coming together as they played a hard fought game tonight. They just didnt have enough on offense (no Dirk) to match the Nuggets scorers and also missed our superstars rebounding as well. The Mavs will turn this around. In fact im already seeing positive signs. BELIEVE! :clap :clap :clap :elephant :elephant :elephant

[SpursFanFirst]

i guess people know a thing or two about jumping on bandwagons when they root for the Spurs, Colts, Cowboys, and Notre Dame.

Well, let's see...
I grew up a Spurs/Cowboys fan living in San Antonio. I'm now 33 years old. Hardly a bandwagon fan.

Became a Notre Dame fan once I moved to South Bend. That's been 16 years now. Oh, and they've sucked for a while now, but I'm hardly ready to jump off a bridge. I still watch every game.

And I now live in Indianapolis. I've never claimed to be a Colts fan since their inception. I became one once I moved to town. It's hard not to get caught up in the local team. I've now lived here almost 6 years.

Nice try though, Mono.

[monosylab1k]

Well, let's see...
I grew up a Spurs/Cowboys fan living in San Antonio. I'm now 33 years old. Hardly a bandwagon fan.

Became a Notre Dame fan once I moved to South Bend. That's been 16 years now. Oh, and they've sucked for a while now, but I'm hardly ready to jump off a bridge.

And I now live in Indianapolis. I've never claimed to be a Colts fan since their inception. I became one once I moved to town. It's hard not to get caught up in the local team. I've now lived here almost 6 years.

Nice try though, Mono.
:jack

[SpursFanFirst]

Yeah...just as I suspected. No real comeback.

[SpursFanFirst]

Oh, and since when is it a crime to have favorite teams in different sports? I'm willing to bet most people on here support more than one team.

[monosylab1k]

Yeah...just as I suspected. No real comeback.
I didn't ask for a biography of your personal life. There's no real comeback when I don't give a shit about anything you just posted.

[monosylab1k]

Oh, and since when is it a crime to have favorite teams in different sports? I'm willing to bet most people on here support more than one team.
which explains you taking a shot at me, right?

hypocrite.

[SpursFanFirst]

And yet you felt the need to respond. Hm.

[monosylab1k]

And yet you felt the need to respond. Hm.
it was worth 4 seconds of my time.

[SpursFanFirst]

which explains you taking a shot at me, right?

hypocrite.

No, I "took a shot at you" because every time one of "your teams" has a down period, you're ready to jump off their bandwagon.
Try being loyal for once.

[monosylab1k]

No, I "took a shot at you" because every time one of "your teams" has a down period, you're ready to jump off their bandwagon. Try being loyal for once.
Last time I checked I still root for the same teams I did 15 years ago. You have no clue what you're talking about. Fuck off.

[SpursFanFirst]

Last time I checked I still root for the same teams I did 15 years ago. You have no clue what you're talking about. Fuck off.


Right back at ya.
Remember that next time you want to respond to one of my posts.

[monosylab1k]

Right back at ya.
Remember that next time you want to respond to one of my posts.
Don't you have a Tivo'd Peyton Manning commercial to masturbate to?

You're the one that started this shit. I didn't feel the need to talk crap at you until you took an unnecessary shot at me. Thanks for being a bitch.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Don't you have a Tivo'd Peyton Manning commercial to masturbate to?

You're the one that started this shit. I didn't feel the need to talk crap at you until you took an unnecessary shot at me. Thanks for being a bitch.

Hey take it easy bro, save your anger for Avery Johnson

[SpursFanFirst]

Don't you have a Tivo'd Peyton Manning commercial to masturbate to?

You're the one that started this shit. I didn't feel the need to talk crap at you until you took an unnecessary shot at me. Thanks for being a bitch.

Please, Mono...
You did this exact same thing during the NFL season. Kind of annoying, huh?
Payback is a bitch.

Oh, and if you don't want people calling you a :dramaquee , try not starting useless threads every time "your team" loses. You get less "unwanted" attention that way.

[Cry Havoc]

I'm just gonna lay it out there. I'm going to be more honest than I ought to.

I HATE being a fan of the Mavericks. It absolutely fucking blows.

The biggest mistake of my life was deciding that I liked the Mavericks and wanted to be a Mavs fan for life. An MFFL before MFFL existed.

Now I've got to watch this shit for 6 months a year.

My fondest memories are of teams that could barely win 20 games a season.

I hate basketball.





And fuck the Suns.


Try being a Cubs fan sometime. It's worse, trust me. You have no comprehension of the level of sucktitude it is to love the losers from Wrigley.

[Tike Mailer]

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Sports/NYOL59910082106_ms.jpeg

You Spurs fans are mean-spirited and pathetic. This is why the rest of the NBA hates you. You will never win back-to-back championships.

[Trainwreck2100]

Try being a Cubs fan sometime. It's worse, trust me. You have no comprehension of the level of sucktitude it is to love the losers from Wrigley.
won't be able to say that much longer, if the owner get's his way

[Ignignokt]

dont worry mav fans. keep dirk.

we kept robinson.

and maybe dirk will get his duncan near the end of his retirement to win on for dallas and dirk.

ALways believe.

in 96 we were at a tailspin, about to lose the franchise to new orleans, drob was about to go into the books as a choker and failure, but we then got duncan and the rest is history.

Avery is not the awnser,

harris was not the awnser,

diop was not the awnser.

No one is the awnser right now.

just let the marbles fall where they may, and start a new love with your team. Hope for Cuban to rebuild around dirk, and prepare them for an arrival of the next superstar who might be picked up in the draft.


dallas has alot to be excited about.

you still have a rich owner, new barriers to reach, etc.

Spurfans have been down this road before.

[Ignignokt]

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Sports/NYOL59910082106_ms.jpeg

You Spurs fans are mean-spirited and pathetic. This is why the rest of the NBA hates you. You will never win back-to-back championships.


I hope you truly believe your fanbase is full of angels. because reality is that we all have a few bad apples in our fanbase and not everything is honkey dorey.

dont be bitter.

Mavfans are getting more knowledgeable under these circumstances.

atleast you all don't crave nellie ball.

that's a step in the right direction.

[TexSports]

O.K. I admit it.. We won't accept you with open arms.. It's too much fun watching you suffer as Maverick fans....

Honestly though, as a Texas sports fans I root for the Spurs first and if they are gone then Houston or Dallas gets my attention, when all three are gone, I'll go with an Eastern team (cause I will never, ever will I root for the Lakers or the Suns!!!)

[LazinessThievery]

It was pretty hilarious watching Kidd clank around after Iverson with all the agility of the scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz. Pretty clear Kidd prefers his targets stationary, like his wife...

[whottt]

Don't give up guys, you still have a chance!

[spursfan09]

Do you Spurs fans REALLY want that?

I promise you, if I jump ship to the Spurs, they WILL get swept in the first round. I have THAT MUCH bad mojo built up right now.

I have the anti-Midas touch right now. Any team I root for WILL suffer embarrassing defeat and epic failure.

:lol Hell no! Stay away!

I used to think Mav fans on his board were so arrogant and cocky. Now after what ya'll have been through, I see who the true fans are, so props for that. And I kind of feel bad for ya'll.

[stretch]

:lol Hell no! Stay away!

I used to think Mav fans on his board were so arrogant and cocky. Now after what ya'll have been through, I see who the true fans are, so props for that. And I kind of feel bad for ya'll.
All teams have their good and bad fans. Everyone has their groups of bizzare fans. Although I must say... SpursDynasty is one of a kind though. Never seen someone like him. The Spurs have a very unique fan.

On, and don't forget Ducks. He's just like ol' Jeff.

[Reggie Miller]

Try being a Cubs fan sometime. It's worse, trust me. You have no comprehension of the level of sucktitude it is to love the losers from Wrigley.

Yep. Decades of mismanagment. A "loser's mentality" from top to bottom of the organization for most of the Tribune/WGN years. Not to mention my personal favorite...

Overspending on mediocre free agents purely because of their performance against the Cubs. This one particularly burns me, because it's not hard to have a good game against the Cubs most years. Of course, once on the Cubs (and hence unable to face Cubs' pitching), these free agents tend to revert to their (shitty) career norms. Sigh...

Being a Pacers' fan is pretty damn annoying as well.

[RonMexico]

mono - become a Spurs fan, immediately

[DarrinS]

And fuck the Suns.


:toast

[RonMexico]

I wonder if a Suns title would make Jeff's head explode

[oligarchy]

:jack

BkgMbU-we1o

[O-Factor]

Jump on the Spurs wagon.

:lol , he'll do it too.

[Killakobe81]

give up it's over ... but at least now you have a legit excuse ...NEVER should of lost to the HEAT ...you guys havent been the same since ...

[peskypesky]

eat sh-t, Mavfans!!! rotflmao!!!!

[hater]

Mavfans, it's not too late to jump in the Spurs bandwagon.

[Killakobe81]

Hey i sais it's over ...but that's just THIS season Dirk is an MVP caliber player though he hast mad THE LEAP JHO was a former ACC player of teh year and borderline NBA all-star (like an Odom) and a declining but still effective HOF point gaurd all is not lost but you need to go back to being more uptempo

[hater]

maybe Mavs can get Nellie back :lol

nellie ball!

[ratm1221]

Mavs are done for the season. I'm just going to watch the rest of the games and enjoy without worrying about winning or losing. What a relief.... :pctoss

[Islymore]

... Man, I have never been so disappointed in this team. I was behind the Kidd trade (*still am, the guy is a true PG, which Harris never was and hadn't shown any spurts of being in the 5 yrs he was here - so I'm still behind it. Kidd was not brought here to be a scorer, he's here to distrubute the ball.... sorry for the rant!)

But... I have watched this team, as much as I can possibly bear to watch, and I have been more disappointed in AJ than I have the team. True - the team does tend to fall apart, but I firmly believe it has SO MUCH to do with AJ's lack of letting the reins go. He has to control every play and every bit of the game. It makes me sick to HEAR him ranting thru my TV!!!!! It pisses me off when I see him treading up and down the side of the court, sometimes even ON the court.

But - enuf of my ranting.... I'm here, still a MAVS fan. Not putting too much stock in this season, patiently waiting on the next....

Hey maybe they will do something amazin and SHOW UP in the playoffs... :p....?

[Indazone]

Don't give up guys, you still have a chance!

http://haacked.com/images/haacked_com/WindowsLiveWriter/ShareInMyStupidity_9F1F/dumb-and-dumber-001-1%5B2%5D.jpg


Lloyd: What are the chances of a Dallas making the playoffs?
Mary: Well, that's pretty difficult to say.
Lloyd: Hit me with it! I've come a long way to get here. The least you can do is level with me. What are my chances?
Mary: Not good.
Lloyd: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?
Mary: I'd say more like one out of a million.
[pause]
Lloyd: So you're telling me there's a chance.

:blah :lol :lol

[Don Quixote]

I wonder if a Suns title would make Jeff's head explode

A Suns' title would certainly alter my perception of the universe. A Sons title is impossible -- it will never happen. If the impossible happened, either it's a miracle, or the the fabric of the universe would no longer hold together. 2+2 would = 5, etc.

[mavsfan1000]

http://haacked.com/images/haacked_com/WindowsLiveWriter/ShareInMyStupidity_9F1F/dumb-and-dumber-001-1%5B2%5D.jpg


Lloyd: What are the chances of a Dallas making the playoffs?
Mary: Well, that's pretty difficult to say.
Lloyd: Hit me with it! I've come a long way to get here. The least you can do is level with me. What are my chances?
Mary: Not good.
Lloyd: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?
Mary: I'd say more like one out of a million.
[pause]
Lloyd: So you're telling me there's a chance.

:blah :lol :lol
Here is the scene. Starts at 2:19 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mff6uPddUbw

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Here is the scene. Starts at 2:19 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mff6uPddUbw

Yo that shit was funny :lol

[jman3000]

All those punches to the groin might prevent you from even having kids. Just think, you might have to watch some dude fuck your bitch just to have kids and it's all Avery's fault.
lmfao

:lol

[Findog]

I was thinking about this the other day. Does another team torture its fanbase with such torturous ends to its seasons? It's one thing to lose and for your season to end when you don't have a realistic shot at winning a title, but I think the team itself and its fans have had those expectations for the past three years.

- Losing in the Finals is bad enough. Then it melted away through a combination of referees and their own inepititude. A team like Cleveland can call their season a success because they made it far enough to get drilled by the Spurs. On the other hand, the Mavericks went further that year than they ever have, they beat their nemesis along the way, and yet somehow that season is regarded as a mark of shame and something for which they have to apologize.

- Then you come back and have one of the greatest regular seasons of all time. I know, I know, "it's the playoffs that matter" and that's a lesson that we learned emphatically. It's just that dominating like that for 6 months raises reasonable expectations of a championship. So not only do you suffer the humiliation of losing to an 8 seed*, but you were arguably the best team in basketball over a two-year period, and you have nothing but a lone Finals appearance to show for it.

* It doesn't matter that the Warriors pulled off a major trade that made them much better, their starting backcourt missed a combined 50 games that year, their success this season has validated what they've done since they acquired Stephen Jackson, nor does it matter that there wasn't a talent gap between the two teams worth 25 games in the standings. It will always be a humiliation, and it will long be remembered as the greatest upset in NBA history.

- They come back after THAT and decide not to play with enough urgency to start the season, and get off to a slow start and lose to a bunch of shit teams that they normally beat. Only problem is that the West becomes as tough and competitive as its ever been, and it's possible to be BOTH 2 games out of the top seed and 3 games out of the playoffs. Those early-season losses to the weaker teams loom larger than they should have. They finally start rounding back into the team that we expect them to be, but then their starting PG goes down, they start losing games again, and they decide to pull the trigger on a risky trade in response to moves made by other West rivals. They struggle to adapt to their new floor general, the players appear to tune out their coach, and their franchise player goes down with an injury during the final stretch run to the playoffs. They barely miss out on the postseason as a result.

Those are three very distinct nutpunches. This team makes me sad.

It gets worse. The Hornets, Lakers and Jazz have emerged as young teams on the rise. There's no reason to think they won't continue to contend. The Spurs won't be going anywhere with their Big Three and their well-managed cap. Oden will be strengthening the Blazers next year. Yao returns to the Rockets and the Suns probably have one more year after this one with their nucleus. The Celtics and Pistons should be around for a while, while it wouldn't take much help for LeBron to vault the Cavaliers from being merely a good team to elite status. And given that even with Kidd's contract coming off the books, we'll still be tight against the cap with Dirk/Josh/Jet/Damp/Stack, I don't see what can reasonably be done to retool this thing into an elite title contender again soon.

[Obstructed_View]

It's too bad that overreactionary management decides to break up every team before it can develop some playoff experience as a unit. The fetish for marquee names doesn't help either.

The season ain't over yet. They need to nut the fuck up and go to work, but that team can run and play defense well enough to compete with anyone if they make smart decisions and get some confidence.

[Indazone]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...ck.html?ref=rss

The Nets are still a half-game behind the Hawks in the race for the final playoff spot in the East. But they've won five of their last eight games and are starting to resemble the kind of team everyone thought they'd be this season, even if it may be too late.

So how over the first 3-1/2 months of the season did the Nets end up in a hole they may not be able to dig themselves out of?

As far as Richard Jefferson is concerned, the team was distracted by the situation surrounding a certain former teammate.

"I'm not going to lie," Jefferson said Thursday, "we were dead men walking with the Jason Kidd situation."

Jefferson was referring to Kidd's desire to be traded from the team, which the future Hall of Fame point guard made public in late January, the day after the Nets had lost a ninth straight game.

However, Jefferson confirmed yesterday what many had already known, that Kidd's unhappiness with the team was a not-so-well-kept secret inside the locker room. Jefferson said that made it difficult for the Nets to concentrate on priority No.1 - advancing to the playoffs for the seventh straight year.

Now the team's postseason streak is in jeopardy, as they have just 10 games left to leap over Atlanta, starting with tonight's game in Indianapolis. Considering the margin between the Nets and Hawks, that may not seem like such a tough task, but Atlanta has a more favorable schedule than the Nets, who play the Suns at home on Saturday and still have five road games left after tonight.

"Everybody knew it was time and that he needed a change and that he wanted a change," Jefferson said of Kidd, who was granted his wish when he was traded to the Mavericks on Feb. 19. "People made it seem like it was only like that when he went public. No, that situation had been going on all season, but it was behind closed doors."

The Nets have gone 8-11 since the Kidd trade, which also sent Antoine Wright and Malik Allen to New Jersey in exchange for Devin Harris, DeSagana Diop, Trenton Hassell, Maurice Ager and Keith Van Horn (who is inactive after coming out of semi-retirement to make the deal work financially). But after a six-game losing streak that threatened to sink the Nets, they've gone 5-3 to stay in the thick of the race.

With Harris playing point guard, they've scored more than 100 points six times in the last eight games - including 117 against Utah, 125 against Cleveland and 124 on Wednesday against Indiana, all home victories. Jefferson's only regret is that he, Harris and Vince Carter couldn't have been hooked up sooner so that the transition period didn't conflict so much with the final playoff push.

Jefferson explained that the early-season struggles also had to do with the fact that the Nets just weren't "clicking" like the team that had made it to a pair of NBA Finals and was consistently in contention for a division title.

"That didn't happen this year just because we didn't have that resolve," Jefferson said. "And now that we're starting to get it I just hope that we have enough time."



Now ask yourself. What did Cuban really buy??

[The Nba Is Rigged]

I was thinking about this the other day. Does another team torture its fanbase with such torturous ends to its seasons? It's one thing to lose and for your season to end when you don't have a realistic shot at winning a title, but I think the team itself and its fans have had those expectations for the past three years.

- Losing in the Finals is bad enough. Then it melted away through a combination of referees and their own inepititude. A team like Cleveland can call their season a success because they made it far enough to get drilled by the Spurs. On the other hand, the Mavericks went further that year than they ever have, they beat their nemesis along the way, and yet somehow that season is regarded as a mark of shame and something for which they have to apologize.

- Then you come back and have one of the greatest regular seasons of all time. I know, I know, "it's the playoffs that matter" and that's a lesson that we learned emphatically. It's just that dominating like that for 6 months raises reasonable expectations of a championship. So not only do you suffer the humiliation of losing to an 8 seed*, but you were arguably the best team in basketball over a two-year period, and you have nothing but a lone Finals appearance to show for it.

* It doesn't matter that the Warriors pulled off a major trade that made them much better, their starting backcourt missed a combined 50 games that year, their success this season has validated what they've done since they acquired Stephen Jackson, nor does it matter that there wasn't a talent gap between the two teams worth 25 games in the standings. It will always be a humiliation, and it will long be remembered as the greatest upset in NBA history.

- They come back after THAT and decide not to play with enough urgency to start the season, and get off to a slow start and lose to a bunch of shit teams that they normally beat. Only problem is that the West becomes as tough and competitive as its ever been, and it's possible to be BOTH 2 games out of the top seed and 3 games out of the playoffs. Those early-season losses to the weaker teams loom larger than they should have. They finally start rounding back into the team that we expect them to be, but then their starting PG goes down, they start losing games again, and they decide to pull the trigger on a risky trade in response to moves made by other West rivals. They struggle to adapt to their new floor general, the players appear to tune out their coach, and their franchise player goes down with an injury during the final stretch run to the playoffs. They barely miss out on the postseason as a result.

Those are three very distinct nutpunches. This team makes me sad.

It gets worse. The Hornets, Lakers and Jazz have emerged as young teams on the rise. There's no reason to think they won't continue to contend. The Spurs won't be going anywhere with their Big Three and their well-managed cap. Oden will be strengthening the Blazers next year. Yao returns to the Rockets and the Suns probably have one more year after this one with their nucleus. The Celtics and Pistons should be around for a while, while it wouldn't take much help for LeBron to vault the Cavaliers from being merely a good team to elite status. And given that even with Kidd's contract coming off the books, we'll still be tight against the cap with Dirk/Josh/Jet/Damp/Stack, I don't see what can reasonably be done to retool this thing into an elite title contender again soon.

I'm not even going to lie to you but I somehow hope Dirk ends up with Lebron on the cavs or Kobe with the lakers. This guy needs a big time player that can help him and Jason Kidd is not the answer

[Roxsfan]

some highlights-lowlights of the mavs in the last few years:

Going down 0-2 to the rox, then beating the first yr tmac-yao duo with a monster 7th game

Making it to the finals winning the first 2 games by an avg. of 12 pts, only to lose 4 str8 painful games and lose the series.

winning 67 games last yr, only to lose in the 1st round to the 8th seed.


This year--kidd trade was horrible, coaching is in question, injuries to Dirk, tough western conference--may miss the playoffs altogether.

Where do you go from here?

[mavsfan1000]

Where do you go from here?
We jump off the bridge.

[Findog]

some highlights-lowlights of the mavs in the last few years:

Going down 0-2 to the rox, then beating the first yr tmac-yao duo with a monster 7th game

Making it to the finals winning the first 2 games by an avg. of 12 pts, only to lose 4 str8 painful games and lose the series.

winning 67 games last yr, only to lose in the 1st round to the 8th seed.


This year--kidd trade was horrible, coaching is in question, injuries to Dirk, tough western conference--may miss the playoffs altogether.

Where do you go from here?

I hope we miss the playoffs and end up with Kevin Love. He was available at the 14th pick in most mock drafts, but with his play in the tourney, he's gotten himself into the 9-11 range. If we could get him, and package Howard for a legit 2-guard, a Michael Redd or Joe Johnson, get Eduardo Najera with the MLE, and then resign Antoine Wright to take over for Josh at SF, I'd be ecstatic.

Firing Avery and getting another coach is probably an imperative as well.

[GuerillaBlack]

No way you get Joe Johnson from Atlanta. I think Atlanta keeps Joe Johnson>Josh Howard.

[Findog]

No way you get Joe Johnson from Atlanta. I think Atlanta keeps Joe Johnson>Josh Howard.

Maybe not for Howard alone, but there are rumors he wants out.

[mavs>spurs2]

Too bad Howard can only be traded once. I like any trade involving Howard for Brand or Howard for JJohnson :lol

[Findog]

Of course the Hawks have a glut of swingmen assuming they resign their own Joshes, so one of them would have to be out of the picture for them to take Howard.

[monosylab1k]

No way you get Joe Johnson from Atlanta. I think Atlanta keeps Joe Johnson>Josh Howard.
The front office is in turmoil. Josh Smith is due a big payday. Josh Childress will make some nice money too. Marvin Williams rookie contract will be up after next year. Mike Bibby is on the books now for another year.

And as good as Joe Johnson is, he's way overpaid. I think they'd move him in a heartbeat if the right deal came along. The question is if Dallas has the right pieces to make that deal.

[td4mvp21]

We'll take Howard off your hands. The Big Three are off limits though! :lol

[Findog]

I think there's a good chance JJ will be available this summer. What it takes to get him is another story, as mono stated.

[monosylab1k]

One thing in Dallas' favor is that Joe Johnson is more a natural 2-guard, Childress is better suited at 2-guard, and Josh Smith/Marvin Williams both seem out of place at the 3. They really don't have a true natural small forward. Josh Howard would fit nicely.

[Findog]

One thing in Dallas' favor is that Joe Johnson is more a natural 2-guard, Childress is better suited at 2-guard, and Josh Smith/Marvin Williams both seem out of place at the 3. They really don't have a true natural small forward. Josh Howard would fit nicely.

How does the CBA work when trying to sign a Restricted FA, since both Josh Smith and Childress are RFA? Dallas can't just sign somebody to an offer sheet, they have to do a s-n-t for any FA.

[monosylab1k]

How does the CBA work when trying to sign a Restricted FA, since both Josh Smith and Childress are RFA? Dallas can't just sign somebody to an offer sheet, they have to do a s-n-t for any FA.
I'm not sure really, but I'd love to have any one of those 3 guys. Joe Johnson fits the big SG who is a fearless shooter and drives the ball, Josh Childress is a great defender and slashes & moves w/o the ball very well (great fit with Kidd), and Josh Smith is a straight up bad ass but his maturity level is an issue.

[Findog]

I'm not sure really, but I'd love to have any one of those 3 guys. Joe Johnson fits the big SG who is a fearless shooter and drives the ball, Josh Childress is a great defender and slashes & moves w/o the ball very well (great fit with Kidd), and Josh Smith is a straight up bad ass but his maturity level is an issue.

That would be nothing new for us, since we've been dealing with Josh Howard.

[mavsfan1000]

Bump. Yes it does really suck to be a Mavs fan. RIP the years the Mavs were championship contenders 2002-2007. :(

[endrity]

Bump. Yes it does really suck to be a Mavs fan. RIP the years the Mavs were championship contenders 2002-2007. :(


I don't think those early teams were really contenders, no defense at all. But they were going to be a top 5 team in the league, year in year out. I still don't know why we pushed the panick button. We were 1 in the west before Devin went down. We were not bad at all. For all the stalling and mediocrity, we were on a 57 win pace!!! Goooooddd

[monosylab1k]

The Mavs were just as much of contenders this season with Devin Harris as they are right now.

[monosylab1k]

Let's not forget that Dirk mentally checked out halfway into the year, and didn't come back to life until the Kidd trade happened.

[remingtonbo2001]

The Mavericks should've tanked this year and taken their chances in the lottery.

[endrity]

Let's not forget that Dirk mentally checked out halfway into the year, and didn't come back to life until the Kidd trade happened.

True, but as silly as this might sound some of it was by design, I actually even remember that he said at some point that he didn't want Dirk in attack mode just yet. Avery wanted to firmly estabilish Josh as a scoring threat in the first half, he was even taking more shots than Dirk. Looking back that was probably the most idiotic thing Avery ever did, it made Josh think he was something he was not and completely f'ed up our offense even more.

However the way the team was playing in January, combined with the way Dirk was playing down the stretch you have a top 2-3 team in the west and a legit contender, which with Bass has no problems against smallball teams like Golden State.

[Red Hawk #21]

Don't worry Mavs fans when Mark Cuban sells the team you will win your rings, I'm convinced that the Mavs should have won their rings in 06. Stern gave that series to Dwyane Wade imo

[endrity]

Don't worry Mavs fans when Mark Cuban sells the team you will win your rings, I'm convinced that the Mavs should have won their rings in 06. Stern gave that series to Dwyane Wade imo

:depressed

[confined]

A mavs team with devin harris and diop would have beaten NO

[Harry Callahan]

Don't worry Mavs fans when Mark Cuban sells the team you will win your rings, I'm convinced that the Mavs should have won their rings in 06. Stern gave that series to Dwyane Wade imo


Congrats:
The Atlanta Hawks are officially a more relevant team than the Dallas Mavericks. You've come a long way baby.

[monosylab1k]

A mavs team with devin harris and diop would have beaten NO

you're an idiot if you really believe that.

[GuerillaBlack]

you're an idiot if you really believe that.

I don't know. They might have.

[Red Hawk #21]

you're an idiot if you really believe that.

I think your in denial

[mavsfan1000]

A mavs team with devin harris and diop would have beaten NO
Agreed. Diop would be a big help in the defensive department in this series. Especially since Dampier's lack of speed is getting exploited on the pick and roll. Harris would be able to stay in front of Paul as well as make Paul work more on the defense. Also Howard wouldn't have checked out mentally with Harris still here. :bang to the Front Office.

[ehz33satx]

Jump on the Spurs wagon.

Fuck off Mavs fans!