Kobe 32 pts, 4 min. to go in the 1st half

[DazedAndConfused]

^^See what I mean? This thread has somehow degenerated into an LA sucks thread. Admit, you all just love to hate on LA and the Lakers.

[GuerillaBlack]

LA isn't that bad. I wouldn't want to live in Orange County or some bullshit place like that. I'd rather live in the City of LA.

[Obstructed_View]

^^See what I mean? This thread has somehow degenerated into an LA sucks thread. Admit, you all just love to hate on LA and the Lakers.


And FYI I just looked up shit-hole town in the dictionary and I saw a picture of Detroit.

I call bullshit on you.

Nobody, not even a Laker fan, is as stupid as you are. Starting threads and then bitching about the responses is one thing, but bad mouthing Detroit and then wondering why it turns into an LA sucks thread? You just overplayed it. It was fun while it lasted. How you had the patience to stick with over two thousand posts of such completely ignorant drivel before being found out is admirable.

[Next Superstar]

Right after fisher gets away with cheating the warriors they lose at home to charlotte and memphis. Fisher is hurt now too, i guess thats just karma.

[GuerillaBlack]

What'd Fisher do against the Warriors? I missed it.

[kuato]

Thats wy the lakers will never win another championship with kobe, no team at all.

[Cherry]

I will never get it. Why is so important to make 53 points if your team lose? :(

[ElNono]

Last I checked the Spurs had Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, and the rest of their starters for those games. No excuse for a fully healthy supposed championship team to lose 4 in a row to +.500 teams this late in the game.

We're the defending champions. There's nothing 'supposed' about our championship.


The Lakers are down two starters and some key role players. And yes that is a valid excuse. When Gasol and Bynum get back the Lakers will start winning again and won't be dropping games to the Bobcats or Grizzlies. Considering we've won all our games against both of those teams this season when we were healthy I think I just might have a point here no?

No. Your team sucks. They lost at home to the Grizzlies. Now deal with it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I will never get it. Why is so important to make 53 points if your team lose? :(

its the same BS i hear when kidd pulls a triple double in a team losing effort, i dunno whats the big deal though with stat padders in general on a losing team

[DaDakota]

What'd Fisher do against the Warriors? I missed it.


Lakers up 2, four seconds on the clock, inbounds play by Golden State, and Fisher pulls Monte Ellis down on top of him to make it look like a charge, same stuff he did at Utah against luther head, and several other times in his career.

DD

[1Parker1]

Lakers Lose and Hornets Lose! If only Pheonix had lost it would have been a great night... :)

[DazedAndConfused]

I've never been a fan of Kobe ball, but if you think Kobe not passing to his teammates was the reason the Lakers lost you are a fucking idiot. His teammates shot 28% from the field and were jacking up ill-advised 3's left, right, and center. If the whole team is going to chuck up stupid perimeter shots I'd rather Kobe shoot all of them. It wouldn't make any difference on the outcome of the game.

The Lakers without a post presence are the same kind of team they were the last 3 losing seasons. Those teams lost games like this to MEM and CHA for the exact same reasons we lost tonight. The Lakers made the jump to an elite team this year primarily because of the emergence of a post presence in Bynum and Gasol. Lakers were #1 with Bynum and climbed back to the #1 spot again with Gasol.

When most teams lose their 2nd and 3rd best players they tend to struggle. Funny how every other team in the league gets slack for this, but when it's the Lakers it's all Kobe's fault. Please take of the hater glasses for one fucking second idiots.

[peskypesky]

I've never been a fan of Kobe ball, but if you think Kobe not passing to his teammates was the reason the Lakers lost you are a fucking idiot. His teammates shot 28% from the field and were jacking up ill-advised 3's left, right, and center. If the whole team is going to chuck up stupid perimeter shots I'd rather Kobe shoot all of them.

As I said in a previous post, I agree with you. Kobe should shoot every shot for the Lakers. In every game. From now on. Since his team-mates aren't as good as him, why should they ever take a shot?

[DazedAndConfused]

Kobe is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

You're just an ignorant hater and even your own Spurs fans have called you out.

[Obstructed_View]

When a team loses their second best player and suddenly starts to suck, it just means that the superstar on the team isn't really an MVP candidate.

[JamStone]

I will never get it. Why is so important to make 53 points if your team lose? :(


I don't think Kobe plans on the Lakers to lose when he scores 50+ points.

[GuerillaBlack]

Orange county is a 10 times nicer place to live in the City of LA!!!!!!! Downtown LA is congested, and rat hole! :toast
Hell to the no. I have a lot of family in LA (tons) and I hate going to Irvine, etc., because it is so damn sterile. Give me LA anyday.

[JamStone]

When a team loses their second best player and suddenly starts to suck, it just means that the superstar on the team isn't really an MVP candidate.

Second best player and arguably third most important player, kind of like the Spurs started to suck when both Parker and Duncan went down for a couple game. Plus those two players are the main two guys in the front court for interior scoring.

[1Parker1]

I actually think Kobe needs to score 50+ points at times like last night with Gasol still out, Bynum still out, Odom playing sick, and Fischer being injured.

It's kind of like how Ginobili literally carried the Spurs entire offense during that stretch after the All Star break where Parker was out. If your teammates aren't scoring or aren't healthy and you know you gotta put points on the board, you do what you gotta do. Sure Kobe could definitely pass more, but the rest of the team was shooting pretty poorly. If Kobe hadn't scored 53, who knows how much they would have lost by to the Grizz

[DazedAndConfused]

Second best player and arguably third most important player, kind of like the Spurs started to suck when both Parker and Duncan went down for a couple game. Plus those two players are the main two guys in the front court for interior scoring.

Jamstone you're not going to convince the legions of Kobe and Laker haters on this forum that the Lakers being severely undermanned was the main reason for the loss. In their minds the Lakers lost because Kobe is a ballhog and doesn't know how to pass to his teammates. It's really sad that people can be this ignorant about basketball.

Spurs fans should know more than anyone else how hard it is to win in this league when your 2nd and 3rd best players go down and you are forced to play undermanned for an extended period of time. They are lucky their injuries happened early in the season when the stakes weren't as high.

[DaDakota]

Funny how the Lakers are caving in while the Rockets lost Yao Ming and continue to roll on.....

Does that mean Tmac is a better player than Kobe?

Nope, but it does mean that Tmac makes his teamates more effective than Kobe does.

DD

[LakeShow]

The Lakers are Burnt out and hurting right now. They need rest and players to come back from injuries. What they've been able to accomplish thus far with so many injuries to key players is commendable, but unfortunately it couldn't last forever. End of Story! Next..

You guys have been watching too much tv. As a former resident of LA I speak from experience. La is a big city, there are good areas and there are bad areas. Just like any other big city. Orange county is no different, good areas, bad areas. There are areas in LA that even I wouldn't go to but it doesn't make it a bad city because of that. If you want trouble, you can find it easy in LA. If you don't want trouble you can avoid it. It's all about respect. If you show respect to everybody no matter who they are, they will show you respect in return. San Diego (although I think Monterey is just as beautiful) which is the most beautiful city in california has its bad areas as well. Don't believe the Hype!

[DazedAndConfused]

What's happening to the Lakers right now is no different than what happened to the Spurs when Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli went out and they started playing .500 ball.

[JamStone]

Funny how the Lakers are caving in while the Rockets lost Yao Ming and continue to roll on.....

Does that mean Tmac is a better player than Kobe?

Nope, but it does mean that Tmac makes his teamates more effective than Kobe does.

DD


Not the same. Rockets lost Yao, then Carl Landry.

Lakers had already lost their inside presence in Andrew Bynum, lost Pau to injury, Odom was playing sick, and Fisher has a torn tendon in his foot. Before Odom and Fisher got hurt or sick, the Lakers stayed afloat. If four of the top five players are injured or sick, then it makes it monumentally more difficult to win games even against bad teams. The Rockets situation once Yao got hurt is not the same as the Lakers right now in their last couple losses.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

T Mac isn't even close to the same league as Kobe.


T Mac is a second tier star

[K-State Spur]

Our team is way to beat up right now....the injuries are really catching up with us. Bench players playing way too many minutes.

please tell us, what's that like? Spurs would have a record similar to Boston if not for various injuries to the Big 3.

[peskypesky]

Funny how the Lakers are caving in while the Rockets lost Yao Ming and continue to roll on.....

Does that mean Tmac is a better player than Kobe?

Nope, but it does mean that Tmac makes his teamates more effective than Kobe does.

DD

:toast

[DazedAndConfused]

Where do you think the Lakers would be right now if Bynum, Gasol, and Ariza never went down? The Lakers would be head and shoulders above everyone in the WC.

The Spurs have a fully healthy team right now outside of Brent Barry and they are still can't beat quality opponents. Blown out by 25 against NOH, lost to the Shaq-Suns, lost to DEN, blew a 22 pt lead against the Allen-less Celtics, lost to the 76ers, etc. The Spurs are not playing better basketball than anyone else in the WC.

[peskypesky]

Where do you think the Lakers would be right now if Bynum, Gasol, and Ariza never went down? The Lakers would be head and shoulders above everyone in the WC.

The Spurs have a fully healthy team right now outside of Brent Barry and they are still can't beat quality opponents. Blown out by 25 against NOH, lost to the Shaq-Suns, lost to DEN, blew a 22 pt lead against the Allen-less Celtics, lost to the 76ers, etc. The Spurs are not playing better basketball than anyone else in the WC.


:sleep

[DaDakota]

Not the same. Rockets lost Yao, then Carl Landry.

Lakers had already lost their inside presence in Andrew Bynum, lost Pau to injury, Odom was playing sick, and Fisher has a torn tendon in his foot. Before Odom and Fisher got hurt or sick, the Lakers stayed afloat. If four of the top five players are injured or sick, then it makes it monumentally more difficult to win games even against bad teams. The Rockets situation once Yao got hurt is not the same as the Lakers right now in their last couple losses.

We lost Steve Francis - signed to be our starting PG, then our starting center (Best player on our team) and then our best bench reserve in Carl Landry.

But the team kept on winning.

You are right, Tmac is not even close to as good as Kobe, but Tmac is a much better facilitator than Kobe and the Rockets have continued to win because they pass the ball and usually have 3 to 5 players in double figures.

It is easy to play the Lakers now, they only have Kobe, if you try to guard Tmac alone he passes...big difference.

DD

[GuerillaBlack]

T Mac isn't even close to the same league as Kobe.


T Mac is a second tier star
Bullshit.

T-Mac has health problems, but when healthy, he is up there with the best in the league AND makes his teammates better. He isn't as good as Kobe, but I would say no one in the league really is right now.

These past few games, he passes it around (gets assists) and rebounds the first three quarters while scoring some points along the way. He'll probably go something like 3-11 the first three quarters. In the fourth, he turns it on he starts going 4-5, or 6-7 from the field.

[Gino]

Where do you think the Lakers would be right now if Bynum, Gasol, and Ariza never went down? The Lakers would be head and shoulders above everyone in the WC.

The Spurs have a fully healthy team right now outside of Brent Barry and they are still can't beat quality opponents. Blown out by 25 against NOH, lost to the Shaq-Suns, lost to DEN, blew a 22 pt lead against the Allen-less Celtics, lost to the 76ers, etc. The Spurs are not playing better basketball than anyone else in the WC.

LMAO!

1) D&C glosses his teams ability to generate posts in a thread but when you look at this thread, half the posts are from him.

2) D&C claims the Lakers would be head and shoulders above the rest of the league even though he's never seen Bynum and Gasol together and his team (even with the supposed MVP) is losing to the crappiest teams in the league.

3) Laughs at Spurs for losing to Shaq's Suns yet the Lakers and Suns were in a one point game with a minute left in Shaq's FIRST game with the Suns. Something tells me the Suns are going to be much more in tune and will easily dispatch the Lakers if they meet in the playoffs.

4) Laughs that the Spurs lost a 25 point lead to the Celtics even though the Celtics absolutely destroyed the Lakers twice. The Lakers can only wish they could have had a big lead against the Celtics to feel good about.

[TheNextGen]

I will never get it. Why is so important to make 53 points if your team lose? :(

wow..are you fukin serious?

[manufor3]

Where do you think the Lakers would be right now if Bynum, Gasol, and Ariza never went down? The Lakers would be head and shoulders above everyone in the WC.

The Spurs have a fully healthy team right now outside of Brent Barry and they are still can't beat quality opponents. Blown out by 25 against NOH, lost to the Shaq-Suns, lost to DEN, blew a 22 pt lead against the Allen-less Celtics, lost to the 76ers, etc. The Spurs are not playing better basketball than anyone else in the WC.
yet we still become the first west team to 50 wins hmm... were done for! :dramaquee

[DazedAndConfused]

It's easy to kick a team when they are down. Funny how the haters never show up when the Lakers are winning. Where were these 11 page threads when the Lakers beat UTA on the road? That game thread barely cracked 2-3 pages.

[blink]

probably because of the hype of the lakers..... they are expected to beat utah.... it's "slightly" unexpected for them to lose to two lottery teams back to back; both were very winnable games. add kobe haters and you have a 12 page thread on a spurs forum

[Tradition]

It's easy to kick a team when they are down. Funny how the haters never show up when the Lakers are winning. Where were these 11 page threads when the Lakers beat UTA on the road? That game thread barely cracked 2-3 pages.

Dazed it is simple. The Lakers are back and this is only the first year (after 4 years of being average). Haters know they will have to worry about this team for the next several years. All I want assuming we dont get the title this year is to have something to build on for next season. We are the big bad evil empire. It's nice to be back and it is ever sweeter that we arent going anywhere for a long ass time. This team is going to be together for the long haul. :)

[DazedAndConfused]

probably because of the hype of the lakers..... they are expected to beat utah.... it's "slightly" unexpected for them to lose to two lottery teams back to back; both were very winnable games. add kobe haters and you have a 12 page thread on a spurs forum

They are expected to beat UTAH on the road without any bigs???

If you disregard MEM and CHA's road records they are teams that matchup very well with us when we don't have a center.

[Gino]

It's easy to kick a team when they are down. Funny how the haters never show up when the Lakers are winning. Where were these 11 page threads when the Lakers beat UTA on the road? That game thread barely cracked 2-3 pages.

Hey dumbass, YOU started a thread about how Kobe Bryant was going off and had 32 points with four minutes to go in the half. Then the Lakers lose, Kobe gets laughed at, you look like a dumbass and you have a temper tantrum, spewing hate towards every team in the western conference.

Its not about the Lakers, its just youre obnoxious. If YOU didn't start this thread and kept it going, no one would be talking about the Lakers.

[blink]

They are expected to beat UTAH on the road without any bigs???

If you disregard MEM and CHA's road records they are teams that matchup very well with us when we don't have a center.

i just expect a lot out of the lakers....

but seriously though.... the latter part of the comment is true.... any top western conference squad that loses to two lottery teams in a row will spark a huge thread; this holds especially true for a much loved/hated team like the lakers.

[DazedAndConfused]

Hey dumbass, YOU started a thread about how Kobe Bryant was going off and had 32 points with four minutes to go in the half. Then the Lakers lose, Kobe gets laughed at, you look like a dumbass and you have a temper tantrum, spewing hate towards every team in the western conference.

Its not about the Lakers, its just youre obnoxious. If YOU didn't start this thread and kept it going, no one would be talking about the Lakers.

O'RLY????


I was about to make a thread about that ...

looks like hes going for somethin special.

[DazedAndConfused]

i just expect a lot out of the lakers....

but seriously though.... the latter part of the comment is true.... any top western conference squad that loses to two lottery teams in a row will spark a huge thread; this holds especially true for a much loved/hated team like the lakers.

I have no problem with people make threads about the Lakers losing, everyone is fighting for a playoff spot and these games are all important. Just a little annoyed at people making the extra effort to piss and shit on the Lakers when they are down (especially when they are severely hampered by injuries).

[td4mvp21]

Hey dumbass, YOU started a thread about how Kobe Bryant was going off and had 32 points with four minutes to go in the half. Then the Lakers lose, Kobe gets laughed at, you look like a dumbass and you have a temper tantrum, spewing hate towards every team in the western conference.

Its not about the Lakers, its just youre obnoxious. If YOU didn't start this thread and kept it going, no one would be talking about the Lakers.

Amen to that. Except I'm sure one thread would have been started about the Lakers losing. But hey, when the Spurs lose to lottery teams, fans of other teams (Lakers fans included) always start at least one thread about that. When we were sucking in January (some without Parker) everyone was telling us how we are done and are going to keep falling until we fall out of the playoff race.


O'RLY????
So one Spurs fan represents the whole fanbase? :rolleyes

[anakha]

Man, D&C is making a strong case for DPOY.

Emphasis on 'Defensive'. :lol

[peskypesky]

Man, D&C is making a strong case for DPOY.

Emphasis on 'Defensive'. :lol

Defensive Pussy of the Year fer sure....

[The Franchise]

I have no problem with people make threads about the Lakers losing, everyone is fighting for a playoff spot and these games are all important. Just a little annoyed at people making the extra effort to piss and shit on the Lakers when they are down (especially when they are severely hampered by injuries).
:cry :cry :cry

[Gino]

I have no problem with people make threads about the Lakers losing, everyone is fighting for a playoff spot and these games are all important. Just a little annoyed at people making the extra effort to piss and shit on the Lakers when they are down (especially when they are severely hampered by injuries).

Because no other team in the west has had to deal with injuries?

Tell that to Yao Ming. Or Tony Parker.

You don't seem to have problems ripping on the Spurs when they were struggling or Rockets now.

btw - Losing Gasol and Bynum is no excuse for losing to the teams you've lost to. The criticism is warranted and deserves to be said. The Lakers will obvioulsy be much better when those two come back, but the Lakers still should have beaten Memphis. That team is basically a great COLLEGE team (Conley, Gay, Warrick, Lowry). There's NO EXCUSE for Kobe, Odom, Fisher, Turiaf, Walton, Farmar, Sasha and Radman to lose that game, regardless of those other two being out.

[DazedAndConfused]

Because no other team in the west has had to deal with injuries?

Tell that to Yao Ming. Or Tony Parker.

You don't seem to have problems ripping on the Spurs when they were struggling or Rockets now.

btw - Losing Gasol and Bynum is no excuse for losing to the teams you've lost to. The criticism is warranted and deserves to be said. The Lakers will obvioulsy be much better when those two come back, but the Lakers still should have beaten Memphis. That team is basically a great COLLEGE team (Conley, Gay, Warrick, Lowry). There's NO EXCUSE for Kobe, Odom, Fisher, Turiaf, Walton, Farmar, Sasha and Radman to lose that game, regardless of those other two being out.

This is why people who don't know what they are talking about should shut the fuck up.

Of course had you watched the game you would have known Odom sat for most of the game because he is battling a respiratory illness and Derek Fisher was limited due to a torn tendon in his foot. You take 3 starters off any team and they are going to struggle, no matter who they play. I'm not even mentioning the tweaked ankle and dislocated pinky that Kobe is playing on. So essentially you have Kobe, Fisher, Turiaf, Walton, Farmar, Sasha, and Radman vs. Conley, Gay, Warrick, Lowry, and Darko (who had a career high in pts). They abused our lack of a front court and that is what won them the game, we just didn't have the bigs to stop their penetration. The Lakers have played 10 games without Gasol and are 5-5, they had impressive victories on the road against DAL and UTA but clearly they are running on empty right now.

So please next time you post thinking you know something about basketball don't because you clearly don't know shit.

[Gino]

This is why people who don't know what they are talking about should shut the fuck up.

Of course had you watched the game you would have known Odom sat for most of the game because he is battling a respiratory illness and Derek Fisher was limited due to a torn tendon in his foot. You take 3 starters off any team and they are going to struggle, no matter who they play. I'm not even mentioning the tweaked ankle and dislocated pinky that Kobe is playing on. So essentially you have Kobe, Fisher, Turiaf, Walton, Farmar, Sasha, and Radman vs. Conley, Gay, Warrick, Lowry, and Darko (who had a career high in pts). They abused our lack of a front court and that is what won them the game, we just didn't have the bigs to stop their penetration. The Lakers have played 10 games without Gasol and are 5-5, they had impressive victories on the road against DAL and UTA but clearly they are running on empty right now.

So please next time you post thinking you know something about basketball don't because you clearly don't know shit.

I know how to read a boxscore:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=280328013

When Odom was sitting most the game, was he on the floor at the time? I only ask since the boxscore says he played 37 minutes! :lol

And I wouldn't mention Kobe's pinky either since that didn't stop him from jacking up 40+ shots attempts. Maybe if Kobe loses his ego the Lakers might start winning more basketball games.