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smeagol
03-30-2008, 02:39 PM
By now, it is pretty obvious for everybody (except for whottt)

And they make the same $$$. :dizzy

Spurs fucked up.

Oh well . . . :depressed

(before anybody says it: Yes . . . Scola thread!)

BlackSwordsMan
03-30-2008, 02:39 PM
Spurs > Rockets

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 02:39 PM
So what?

ArgSpursFan.
03-30-2008, 02:41 PM
So what?

so,your buddy RC is a dick.
and So do you.

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 02:41 PM
And?

ArgSpursFan.
03-30-2008, 02:42 PM
way to go RC!!:tu

Deimosfobos
03-30-2008, 02:42 PM
Oberto is a good player, but his prime is gone already. Scola is only getting better.

I think most reasonable people belives Scola>Oberto.

Magic_Johnson
03-30-2008, 02:42 PM
scola thread

timvp
03-30-2008, 02:42 PM
:depressed Spurs just kicked the Rockets azz. What you sad about?

All Argies weren't coming away with wins after this game no matter how the game finished . . .

itzsoweezee
03-30-2008, 02:43 PM
lol at the idiots that were saying otherwise this summer.

ArgSpursFan.
03-30-2008, 02:43 PM
And?

you can go back and stick to the Dleague for ever,coze NBA scouting aint for you.

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 02:43 PM
Spurs just kicked the Rockets azz. What you sad about?They are sad the Rockets lost.

WalterBenitez
03-30-2008, 02:43 PM
Scola > whottt

ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
03-30-2008, 02:44 PM
:lol I'd understand this thread if the Spurs lost because of Scola.

Oberto was 4 of 4 today, and played good team ball. He's not chopped liver either.

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 02:44 PM
you can go stick to the Dleague for ever,coze NBA scouting and Experience aint for you.Scola is doing pretty much what I thought he would in the NBA except he's rebounding better than anyone thought he could.

Reading English is not for you.

Kobayagi
03-30-2008, 02:44 PM
Yes...and the sky is still blue.

Kori Ellis
03-30-2008, 02:46 PM
What people don't seem to understand is just because Scola is a fit for the Rockets doesn't mean he would be the same player in S.A.

I doubt that Pop would have given him Oberto/Elson's starting job this season. Therefore, he'd be on the bench fighting for minutes and not having much time to produce. With the Rockets, he gets plenty of opportunities, which he may not have had in S.A.

Just be happy for Scola that he has a chance and get over it.

The Spurs just beat down his team - in case any Spurs fans forgot.

polandprzem
03-30-2008, 02:46 PM
By now, it is pretty obvious for everybody (except for whottt)

And they make the same $$$. :dizzy

Spurs fucked up.

Oh well . . . :depressed

(before anybody says it: Yes . . . Scola thread!)


You just got excited because of the vbooks :rolleyes

Deimosfobos
03-30-2008, 02:46 PM
:lol I'd understand this thread if the Spurs lost because of Scola.

Oberto was 4 of 4 today, and played good team ball. He's not chopped liver either.

Oberto did well, i love the guy.

The only reason some people keep mentioning Scola is because losing him hurts... even after so many months. I know, i know... whats done is done... but still.

timvp
03-30-2008, 02:47 PM
I've been against the Scola trade but this wasn't the game to point at as Scola being a good player. The Spurs were going right at him and scoring almost every time. Putting up points in a blowout loss while getting scored on repeatedly and simultaneously having the worst +/- on your team isn't exactly a great accomplishment.

Scola has played a lot better. This was actually one of the worst games I've seen him play this year.

ArgSpursFan.
03-30-2008, 02:47 PM
Scola is doing pretty much what I thought he would in the NBA except he's rebounding better than anyone thought he could.

Reading English is not for you.

yeah right!
You want me to keep bringing back your comments about Scola last summer when you compared him with mediocres ex NBA player ????
you really know shit about this game.
Just stick to read boxscores to get some conclutions.

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 02:47 PM
I know, i knowI don't think you do.

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 02:49 PM
yeah right!
You want me to keep bringing back your comments about Scola last summer when you compared him with mediocres ex NBA player ????
you really know shit about this game.
Just stick to read boxscores to get some conclutions.You don't even remember who i thought he would play like in the NBA, dumbass. You were too busy threatening me and getting IP banned.

Deimosfobos
03-30-2008, 02:49 PM
I don't think you do.

I do know, just like a Kamikase seconds before crushing to a ship. :D

ArgSpursFan.
03-30-2008, 02:49 PM
I don't think you do.

I don't think,you think I don't know.
clear enough?

picnroll
03-30-2008, 02:50 PM
Oberto > Scola + Butler

ArgSpursFan.
03-30-2008, 02:51 PM
You don't even remember who i thought he would play like in the NBA, dumbass. You were too busy threatening me and getting IP banned.

and I'm still here.
the reazon i can't remember every bullshit you said, is because you said so many senseless bullshits buddy.............
long story short...............your full of shit.

THE SIXTH MAN
03-30-2008, 02:53 PM
Spurs > Rockets
/thread

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 02:54 PM
and I'm still here.
the reazon i can't remember every bullshit you said, is because you said so many senseless bullshits buddy.............
long story short...............your full of shit.Nah, I did pretty well with my prediction for Scola. It's too bad the Spurs traded him, but that's life under the luxury tax.

There's nothing more to say and hasn't been for months.

temujin
03-30-2008, 02:55 PM
I've been against the Scola trade but this wasn't the game to point at as Scola being a good player. The Spurs were going right at him and scoring almost every time. Putting up points in a blowout loss while getting scored on repeatedly and simultaneously having the worst +/- on your team isn't exactly a great accomplishment.

Scola has played a lot better. This was actually one of the worst games I've seen him play this year.

Scola scored 10 points in the only quarter that was balanced.
And it was balanced ONLY because of him.

One gets the impression that Spurs would amost unbeatable WITH Scola in (rather that Bonner, for example).

ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
03-30-2008, 02:59 PM
Scola scored 10 points in the only quarter that was balanced.
And it was balanced ONLY because of him.

One gets the impression that Spurs would amost unbeatable WITH Scola in (rather that Bonner, for example).
I hate these comments because it's all hypothetical now.

All these Scola thread bumpers need to listen to "You can't always get what you want" or something.

THE SIXTH MAN
03-30-2008, 02:59 PM
Scola scored 10 points in the only quarter that was balanced.
And it was balanced ONLY because of him.

One gets the impression that Spurs would amost unbeatable WITH Scola in (rather that Bonner, for example).
Spurs are in 1st place in the west. Your point?

Budkin
03-30-2008, 03:00 PM
Oberto is a Spur and helped us win a title. Yes it was a bad move but you can't do anything about it now. Move the fuck on and get over it. Jesus...

THE SIXTH MAN
03-30-2008, 03:01 PM
Oberto is a Spur and helped us win a title. Yes it was a bad move but you can't do anything about it now. Move the fuck on and get over it. Jesus...
+1

temujin
03-30-2008, 03:01 PM
Spurs are in 1st place in the west. Your point?

They would be first OVERALL, maybe?

THE SIXTH MAN
03-30-2008, 03:02 PM
They would be first OVERALL, maybe?
:lol My point is Spurs are playing excellent ball. No Scola needed.

temujin
03-30-2008, 03:04 PM
If there is somebody that can convince me that Elson or Bonner, or even Horry in the present status, or Oberto are better players than Luis Scola, well I will spend a few nice words about his rethoric attitudes.

temujin
03-30-2008, 03:05 PM
:lol My point is Spurs are playing excellent ball. No Scola needed.

Bonner needed?
Elson needed?
Horry needed?

Mr.Bottomtooth
03-30-2008, 03:06 PM
Scola needed?

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 03:07 PM
If there is somebody that can convince me that Elson or Bonner, or even Horry in the present status, or Oberto are better players than Luis Scola, well I will spend a few nice words about his rethoric attitudes.Why would anyone waste his time doing that?

THE SIXTH MAN
03-30-2008, 03:07 PM
Scola needed?
:lol :tu

Mr.Bottomtooth
03-30-2008, 03:08 PM
:lol

Kori Ellis
03-30-2008, 03:08 PM
They would be first OVERALL, maybe?

Or maybe Scola wouldn't play enough D for Pop to give him many minutes.
Or maybe he'd be a starter averaging a double double but the Spurs would be worse off as a team.
Or maybe be he would have gotten injured as a Spur and not be playing.
Or maybe he would be the teams leading scorer and they'd have a better record than the Celtics.
Or maybe they would have traded him midseason for Kurt Thomas.
Or maybe ...

The Scola obsession here is ridiculous. If the Spurs were missing the playoffs or something, I could understand it. But no one knows if Scola would have produced here in San Antonio. Beno produces in Sacramento and he was a lazy scrub here. Different environments bring out different results.

If Scola was here, there's no guarantee he'd be playing how he is playing with the Rockets.

And the point is that he isn't here.

And the Spurs are in first place in the West.

THE SIXTH MAN
03-30-2008, 03:09 PM
If there is somebody that can convince me that Elson or Bonner, or even Horry in the present status, or Oberto are better players than Luis Scola, well I will spend a few nice words about his rethoric attitudes.
:lol What for? Scola is a rocket. Move on.

Mr.Bottomtooth
03-30-2008, 03:09 PM
Or maybe they would have traded him midseason for Kurt Thomas.
:lol That would've been classic.

temujin
03-30-2008, 03:10 PM
Why would anyone waste his time doing that?

Finally a good statement.

I REMEMBER I already told you you are one of the few I care reading here.
Stay sharp.

jag
03-30-2008, 03:11 PM
After reading through these past two pages, i've come to only one conclusion: This is just another worthless Scola thread. We might as well be talking about V-Span at this point.

timvp
03-30-2008, 03:11 PM
All I gotta say now is ........ F Scola. F the Rockets. With the playoffs around the corner, I no longer care about whether that trade this summer was good or bad.

We got Oberto on the Spurs. Oberto is a big game player. Scola was a big game choker in Euroleague. Scola is free to help the Rockets lose once again in the first round. If you find yourself rooting for Scola, try this link (http://www.clutchfans.com) and stop bandwagoning on the Spurs.

The Spurs have gotten serious. It's time for their fans to step their game up as well.

WalterBenitez
03-30-2008, 03:12 PM
Scola scored 10 points in the only quarter that was balanced.
And it was balanced ONLY because of him.

One gets the impression that Spurs would amost unbeatable WITH Scola in (rather that Bonner, for example).

With scola and Barbosa, and Tiago coming oh ... what a future we lost :bang

THE SIXTH MAN
03-30-2008, 03:12 PM
Kill Bill Pana!!!!!!!

temujin
03-30-2008, 03:12 PM
Or maybe Scola wouldn't play enough D for Pop to give him many minutes.
Or maybe he'd be a starter averaging a double double but the Spurs would be worse off as a team.
Or maybe be he would have gotten injured as a Spur and not be playing.
Or maybe he would be the teams leading scorer and they'd have a better record than the Celtics.
Or maybe they would have traded him midseason for Kurt Thomas.
Or maybe ...

The Scola obsession here is ridiculous. If the Spurs were missing the playoffs or something, I could understand it. But no one knows if Scola would have produced here in San Antonio. Beno produces in Sacramento and he was a lazy scrub here. Different environments bring out different results.

If Scola was here, there's no guarantee he'd be playing how he is playing with the Rockets.

And the point is that he isn't here.

And the Spurs are in first place in the West.

So what was the story about benching Finley for good, two weeks back?

Popovich didn't.
He was right, apparently.

DAF86
03-30-2008, 03:12 PM
I've been against the Scola trade but this wasn't the game to point at as Scola being a good player.The Spurs were going right at him and scoring almost every time. Putting up points in a blowout loss while getting scored on repeatedly and simultaneously having the worst +/- on your team isn't exactly a great accomplishment.

Scola has played a lot better. This was actually one of the worst games I've seen him play this year.

i can't bealive you're saying that scola is a bad deffender. :lol

...just kidding

temujin
03-30-2008, 03:13 PM
All I gotta say now is ........ F Scola. F the Rockets. With the playoffs around the corner, I no longer care about whether that trade this summer was good or bad.

We got Oberto on the Spurs. Oberto is a big game player. Scola was a big game choker in Euroleague. Scola is free to help the Rockets lose once again in the first round. If you find yourself rooting for Scola, try this link (http://www.clutchfans.com) and stop bandwagoning on the Spurs.

The Spurs have gotten serious. It's time for their fans to step their game up as well.

Are you serious about winning games by writing on this board.

Resume your nice post game analysis.
I liked those.

DAINTX
03-30-2008, 03:16 PM
This thread is ridiculous!

Scola >> Oberto
Spurs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rockets.

Finiti.

temujin
03-30-2008, 03:17 PM
Or maybe Scola wouldn't play enough D for Pop to give him many minutes.
Or maybe he'd be a starter averaging a double double but the Spurs would be worse off as a team.
Or maybe be he would have gotten injured as a Spur and not be playing.
Or maybe he would be the teams leading scorer and they'd have a better record than the Celtics.
Or maybe they would have traded him midseason for Kurt Thomas.
Or maybe ...

The Scola obsession here is ridiculous. If the Spurs were missing the playoffs or something, I could understand it. But no one knows if Scola would have produced here in San Antonio. Beno produces in Sacramento and he was a lazy scrub here. Different environments bring out different results.

If Scola was here, there's no guarantee he'd be playing how he is playing with the Rockets.

And the point is that he isn't here.

And the Spurs are in first place in the West.

I appreciate your arguments but don't get too upset.
The Scola thing is just a bunch statements on how much some of us were right.

jag
03-30-2008, 03:17 PM
Are you serious about winning games by writing on this board.

Resume your nice post game analysis.
I liked those.

He's serious about you posting reasonable, rational thoughts about all things Spurs.

:pctoss

You dont get it.

temujin
03-30-2008, 03:17 PM
This thread is ridiculous!

Scola >> Oberto
Spurs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rockets.

Finiti.

Finiti, yes.

my2sons
03-30-2008, 03:19 PM
Well maybe you have to look at the long run. Maybe over the next few years with splitter and ian on board. Maybe the spurs liked ian's athleticism in the long run and splitter promise. otherwise keep having your scola wet dreams, i'd rather argue why scola isn't on the barge in june.....

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 03:20 PM
I appreciate your arguments but don't get too upset.
The Scola thing is just a bunch statements on how much some of us were right.Scola's performance today was worthy of Antonie Carr, I will give you that.

Kori Ellis
03-30-2008, 03:20 PM
I appreciate your arguments but don't get too upset.
The Scola thing is just a bunch statements on how much some of us were right.
I'm not upset - I'm laughing.

And no one knows if you were right - Scola is good for Houston, but who knows what he would have done here.

temujin
03-30-2008, 03:25 PM
I'm not upset - I'm laughing.

And no one knows if you were right - Scola is good for Houston, but who knows what he would have done here.

My argument for months was that Scola would have been a very good player and a fierce competitor a-la-Ginobili.

Some disagreed, often vehemently.

That's it.

Kori Ellis
03-30-2008, 03:29 PM
My argument for months was that Scola would have been a very good player and a fierce competitor a-la-Ginobili.

Some disagreed, often vehemently.

That's it.

"Very good" is relative.

That's it.

T Park
03-30-2008, 03:32 PM
I personally think Scola is a good player, but not worth the worry.

His rebounding is mediocre, his defense is pathetic. The defense on Duncan was Nowitzki esque.

Scola is way too damn focused on offense to be a Spur.

Spurs Dynasty 21
03-30-2008, 03:33 PM
disgusting watching Scola bust the Spurs ass like that




but the Scola haters will still say Oberto is better

jag
03-30-2008, 03:33 PM
disgusting watching Scola bust the Spurs ass like that




but the Scola haters will still say Oberto is better

:lmao right on que

..like a dog returns to his vomit.

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 03:34 PM
disgusting watching Scola bust the Spurs ass like thatYou're upset the Spurs won by 23.

You are the very acme of douchedom.

THE SIXTH MAN
03-30-2008, 03:34 PM
disgusting watching Scola bust the Spurs ass like that




but the Scola haters will still say Oberto is better
:lol So predictable.

Kori Ellis
03-30-2008, 03:35 PM
disgusting watching Scola bust the Spurs ass like that


Rockets 24 24 17 23 88
Spurs 35 31 19 24 109

You were disgusted watching this game?

The Spurs beat down the Rockets.
The Spurs are in first place in the West.
The Spurs have won 7 in a row.

Disgusted?

You aren't a Spurs fan then.

T Park
03-30-2008, 03:38 PM
Spursdynasty reaches a new notch level on the douche nozzle.

Holt's Cat
03-30-2008, 03:39 PM
:wtf

Spurs just rolled the Rockets and yet someone has to make it about Scola.

:lol

T Park
03-30-2008, 03:41 PM
BTW, someone might wanna get a police escort for Bobby Jackson.

I could see Kurt jumping in his car chasing down the Rockets bus.

Holt's Cat
03-30-2008, 03:42 PM
Sometimes I wonder if a majority of posters here aren't more about player moves than winning. Sure, I like discussing trades and what not, but the Spurs spotted the Rockets the almighty Luis and it didn't matter today. Seven wins in a row and knocking on the door of the #1 seed.

Hey, it's warming up outside. Get out, take a walk, enjoy your life, now is not the time to end it, etc...

temujin
03-30-2008, 03:43 PM
"Very good" is relative.

That's it.

It's all relative on earth.

The absolute and perfection are outside our reach.

So we don't really want to relate the stats of Scola in his rookie year with those of other players that are quite phenomenal now.

T Park
03-30-2008, 03:45 PM
Temujin.

advice.

Get a life.

Move

ON!

temujin
03-30-2008, 04:00 PM
Temujin.

advice.

Get a life.

Move

ON!

I have already agreed to move on, based on a detailed analysis with a distinguished member of this forum.
One I actually read posts of.
So, dont' try to do too much.

Agloco
03-30-2008, 04:04 PM
Spurs just kicked the Rockets azz. What you sad about?
All Argies weren't coming away with wins after this game no matter how the game finished . . .


The future perhaps. Scola's got at least 6 more quality years like this left. Shoulda, woulda, coulda........

Spurs Dynasty 21
03-30-2008, 04:07 PM
Rockets 24 24 17 23 88
Spurs 35 31 19 24 109

You were disgusted watching this game?

The Spurs beat down the Rockets.
The Spurs are in first place in the West.
The Spurs have won 7 in a row.

Disgusted?

You aren't a Spurs fan then.




I was very happy with the win, don't jump to conclusions like that

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 04:08 PM
I was very happy with the win, don't jump to conclusions like thatdisgusted = happy

Spurs Dynasty 21
03-30-2008, 04:09 PM
disgusted = happy



it was disgusting because he dropped 20pts on the team he should have been apart of




but I'm still very happy with the win

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 04:11 PM
it was disgusting because he dropped 20pts on the team he should have been apart ofYou need to get over it.





but I'm still very happy with the winLiar.

Spurs Dynasty 21
03-30-2008, 04:12 PM
Liar.



:rolleyes




if it helps you sleep at night

urunobili
03-30-2008, 04:12 PM
why do y'all care if Tim will forever own Scola anyhow

DAF86
03-30-2008, 04:14 PM
why do y'all care if Tim will forever own Scola anyhow

duncan owns pretty much everybody in this league

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 04:17 PM
:rolleyes




if it helps you sleep at nightYou don't affect anything I do outside the board. You need to get over yourself too.

Spurs Dynasty 21
03-30-2008, 04:19 PM
You don't affect anything I do outside the board. .



I seriously doubt that

Harry Callahan
03-30-2008, 04:19 PM
First of All,
Kori and Timvp are right again. Let's not assume that the person wearing #4 for Houston would be tearing it up for the Spurs.

Coach Pop has expectations for players on BOTH ends of the court. Also, SA has a HOF power forward who plays 35 minutes per game.

A bunch of these teeth knashing LS lovers are not even fans of the Spurs. They are irritating in a hundred different ways.

I'm dating myself, but I remember another undersized forward who liked and was able to put the ball in the hole, but defense was someone else's job - not his. Walter Berry filled up a stat sheet, but championships were not won with players like that. Just a thought.

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 04:21 PM
I seriously doubt that:lol

What effect do you think you have on my life?

Be specific.

Agloco
03-30-2008, 04:24 PM
Or maybe Scola wouldn't play enough D for Pop to give him many minutes.
Or maybe he'd be a starter averaging a double double but the Spurs would be worse off as a team.
Or maybe be he would have gotten injured as a Spur and not be playing.
Or maybe he would be the teams leading scorer and they'd have a better record than the Celtics.
Or maybe they would have traded him midseason for Kurt Thomas.
Or maybe ...

The Scola obsession here is ridiculous. If the Spurs were missing the playoffs or something, I could understand it. But no one knows if Scola would have produced here in San Antonio. Beno produces in Sacramento and he was a lazy scrub here. Different environments bring out different results.If Scola was here, there's no guarantee he'd be playing how he is playing with the Rockets.

And the point is that he isn't here.

And the Spurs are in first place in the West.


I think the thing thats lost on everyone is that Beno actually gets playing time out there. Hard to produce when you're riding pine.

Having said that, I'm not sure what Scola's PT would have been like here. I'd like to think it would have been comparable to what he's getting in Houston. If so, there's no reason to doubt that his production would have been good here as well.

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 04:25 PM
Beno got plenty of time. Just got beat out.

Harry Callahan
03-30-2008, 04:26 PM
No.
I don't think the minutes would be as much due to the need for other things besides just scoring. You can't have five guys wanting to be the star. Otherwise, you've got the Knicks.

Agloco
03-30-2008, 04:28 PM
Beno got plenty of time. Just got beat out.


It was inconsistent at best. It's a lot different when you're getting out there each and every night.

temujin
03-30-2008, 04:33 PM
Beno is a totally different story.

The guy wants no responsability. He can play the game, but in an environment in which there is no pressure.

We have witnessed that here (and by here I don't mean SA).

He was considered a phenomenal youngster, and they were talking of a Drazen Petrovic even, back then. There is no question he can play the game, but he has limited leadership capabilities.

Sacramento is perfect for him.
Provided that they don't get too good.

ChumpDumper
03-30-2008, 04:34 PM
It was inconsistent at best. It's a lot different when you're getting out there each and every night.Had he played better, he would have played more. There was no need for welfare since there were other better options.

Alain
03-30-2008, 04:34 PM
French bandwagon fans > Argie bandwagon fans

:p:

ducks
03-30-2008, 04:47 PM
just rewatched the game
scola still plays no d
laudry is going to be better then scola

ducks
03-30-2008, 04:48 PM
it was disgusting because he dropped 20pts on the team he should have been apart of




but I'm still very happy with the win
why mcgrady was ice cold
better try to see if scola will beat you then mcgrady
scola better try to go off on spurs
he was ticked at rc to tell him to work on rebounding

Cherry
03-30-2008, 05:39 PM
:lol I'd understand this thread if the Spurs lost because of Scola.

BIG vBookie lost because of Scola :madrun :bang

MaNuMaNiAc
03-30-2008, 05:42 PM
French bandwagon fans > Argie bandwagon fans

:p:
I'm starting to think you're right :oops

ducks
03-30-2008, 05:45 PM
all bandwagoner fans suck

smeagol
03-30-2008, 05:46 PM
Spurs just kicked the Rockets azz. What you sad about?

All Argies weren't coming away with wins after this game no matter how the game finished . . .

I'm :clap becuase of how the SPurs dispossed of the Rockets.

I'm :depressed because the Spurs made a mistake letting Scola go.

nfg3
03-30-2008, 05:48 PM
It always amazes me when this type of thread appears here. People thinking that just because a player plays well on another team in another type of system then that automatically translates to him playing the same way here. Might happen but not very often.

Look at Beno - did you see this type of performance out of him here? I saw only flashes and not for very long. He's doing very well in Sactown and I'm glad for him but him blew his opportunity here. Why do you think Detroit fans in the '05 Finals were calling for him? Could it be he sucked? Couldn't play D and got stripped of the rock frequently?

Kori is right - you can't expect a player to preform the same way here as they do on other teams. Most people know that the Spurs have the most complicated system that demands much more discipline than any other team in the league. ST has called it the 1st year learning curve or something to that effect and have given players leeway because of it. Remember the Elson discussion? Nazr? Some have mentioned that KT is one player that has learned the system faster than most.

So to even imply that Scola would have put up the same numbers here as he has done in Houston is simply not feasible.

Anyway why are we still discussing this? Timvp is right - it's over and move on. The playoffs are upon us and we need ot focus on that and not the old and worn out Scola deal. It's done - stick a fork in it!

Louie Vega
03-30-2008, 05:52 PM
By now, it is pretty obvious for everybody (except for whottt)

And they make the same $$$. :dizzy

Spurs fucked up.

Oh well . . . :depressed

(before anybody says it: Yes . . . Scola thread!)



Scoreboard Dumbshit!!!!!!

smeagol
03-30-2008, 05:52 PM
What people don't seem to understand is just because Scola is a fit for the Rockets doesn't mean he would be the same player in S.A.


Many people were saying the same thing this summer regarding how Scola playing great in Spain did not mean he was going to do so in the NBA. That did not turn out to be true.



I doubt that Pop would have given him Oberto/Elson's starting job this season.


After a coumple of months, I don't see why. And if he didn't this year, maybe we would've next.



Just be happy for Scola that he has a chance and get over it.


I am.



The Spurs just beat down his team - in case any Spurs fans forgot.


Being sad the Spurs lost the opportunity of having anopther quality player in their roster does not mean I'm a lesser Spurs fan the next poster. I happen to think Scola would've been an addition to the team. I'm sorry this upsets many posters.

mavs>spurs2
03-30-2008, 05:53 PM
I'm :clap becuase of how the SPurs dispossed of the Rockets.

I'm :depressed because the Spurs made a mistake letting Scola go.

Was it really a mistake? It is fact that he wouldn't get the same opportunities on the Spurs as he does on the Rockets. His mere 9ppg 6rpg would translate to 4 and 2 on the Spurs. Don't see how that makes much of a difference.

smeagol
03-30-2008, 05:53 PM
Scoreboard Dumbshit!!!!!!

Missed the point by a mile . . .

ducks
03-30-2008, 05:55 PM
players that play no d do not excite me that the might have been a spur

all scouts even other then the spurs were wrong that scola could rebound in the nba
but had rc not told him to work on it would he be as good as he is no

gilmor
03-30-2008, 05:55 PM
:rolleyes




if it helps you sleep at night

I think u shd change your nick to 'RoxFailure'

smeagol
03-30-2008, 06:02 PM
all scouts even other then the spurs were wrong that scola could rebound in the nba but had rc not told him to work on it would he be as good as he is no

:dizzy

I have a serious migrane after that one . . .

Spurs Brazil
03-30-2008, 06:02 PM
Fuck Scola and fuck the Rockets.

We killed them today and I'd love to see Scola and the Rockets in the playoffs.

It will be a sweep or Spurs in 5

ArgSpursFan.
03-30-2008, 07:02 PM
Or maybe Scola wouldn't play enough D for Pop to give him many minutes.Or maybe he'd be a starter averaging a double double but the Spurs would be worse off as a team.Or maybe be he would have gotten injured as a Spur and not be playing.
Or maybe he would be the teams leading scorer and they'd have a better record than the Celtics.
Or maybe they would have traded him midseason for Kurt Thomas.
Or maybe ...

The Scola obsession here is ridiculous. If the Spurs were missing the playoffs or something, I could understand it. But no one knows if Scola would have produced here in San Antonio. Beno produces in Sacramento and he was a lazy scrub here. Different environments bring out different results.

If Scola was here, there's no guarantee he'd be playing how he is playing with the Rockets.

And the point is that he isn't here.

And the Spurs are in first place in the West.

what makes you think that Scola would've not played enough D with the Spurs?
what makes you think He would've been a lazy guy in SA if He`s always been a hard worker?
what makes you think The Spurs would've not been the best team in the league with Scola ?
what make you think that a hustler,hard worker,with a terrific BBIQ and team player would've not played with POP????????? :dizzy

ShoogarBear
03-30-2008, 07:12 PM
Eh, the Scola trade was a mistake. You can rationalize it by saying he wouldn't have the same stats on the Spurs if you want but the fact is they didn't get even close to value back for him.

But now he's a Rocket so F him.

ducks
03-30-2008, 07:13 PM
what makes you think that Scola would've not played enough D with the Spurs?
what makes you think He would've been a lazy guy in SA if He`s always been a hard worker?
what makes you think The Spurs would've not been the best team in the league with Scola ?
what make you think that a hustler,hard worker,with a terrific BBIQ and team player would've not played with POP????????? :dizzy
his d sucked today
so what makes you think it would be better if he had a spurs jersey on

ClingingMars
03-30-2008, 07:15 PM
Eh, the Scola trade was a mistake. You can rationalize it by saying he wouldn't have the same stats on the Spurs if you want but the fact is they didn't get even close to value back for him.

But now he's a Rocket so F him.

YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR!

http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10446/cookie.jpg

-Mars

mavs>spurs2
03-30-2008, 07:37 PM
Was it really a mistake? It is fact that he wouldn't get the same opportunities on the Spurs as he does on the Rockets. His mere 9ppg 6rpg would translate to 4 and 2 on the Spurs. Don't see how that makes much of a difference.

T Park
03-30-2008, 08:46 PM
Being sad the Spurs lost the opportunity of having anopther quality player in their roster does not mean I'm a lesser Spurs fan the next poster. I happen to think Scola would've been an addition to the team. I'm sorry this upsets many posters


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sabar
03-30-2008, 11:23 PM
Why would we want him on the team? He plays less defense than Finley. We don't need a player who by inserting into the lineup guarantees that opposing big men score at will. Look at how Duncan blew by him. KT is a much better defender and adequate enough on offense. Same with Horry, a much better defender.

In case you didn't know, the Spurs win with defense, not one dimensional scorers. Every single player in our lineup plays defense, even Finley and Barry. Scola just looked plain lazy on defense.

The best you can say about it is that we didn't get value back in the trade. Big deal, no team does in any trade. They're all lopsided.

Holt's Cat
03-30-2008, 11:26 PM
A solid throttling of a team that was supposed to be the shit little over a week ago and not to mention the original Texas team with the most annoying fans shouldn't warrant an immediate Scola If Then thread.

K-State Spur
03-30-2008, 11:39 PM
Scola's performance today was worthy of Antonie Carr, I will give you that.

The Big Dog - Pride of Wichita!

DaDakota
03-31-2008, 12:17 AM
Scola would be starting with Duncan and you guys would be even better.....

That being said....you kicked the crap out of my team today.....well done....

Finley looked spry out there.....

Good game, well deserved win.....

DD

kuato
03-31-2008, 06:55 AM
his d sucked today
so what makes you think it would be better if he had a spurs jersey on ---> His D sucked ? Scola was defending TD, and he did it great.

smeagol
03-31-2008, 07:09 AM
D can be learned.

My point has been all along that the Spurs would be better with Scola than what they are. That does not mean they need Scola to repeat. But he is still young and could rerplace our old bigs in the coming years.

But I agree with TPark, at this point we are beating a dead horse.

I should not have started this thread . . .

wildchild
03-31-2008, 09:53 AM
French bandwagon fans > Argie bandwagon fans

:p:

Dude...You're right.

Don’t get me wrong. I love Manu and Fab. Do you see my avatar?

But yeah! I'm sick and tired of all argies fans.

They aren't Spurs fans. They're only Manu, Fab or Scola fans.

J'adore les Spurs.

wildchild
03-31-2008, 10:22 AM
disgusting watching Scola bust the Spurs ass like that




but the Scola haters will still say Oberto is better

I'm not Scola hater. I like the guy, but I think Oberto fits better in Pop systems and schemes.
In the game Oberto with 4/4 and 5 asist +/- with+16 (Tony with +22 and Scola with -22) was all Pop needs from him.
Fab did everything to win and the Spurs won. What's the matters?

I think Scola doesn't get opportunities in the spurs offensive.
At least, totally different to the ones he gets in Houston without Yao, now.
There isn't comparison. We have Tim, Tony and Manu and if the guy is only a good scorer, maybe Pop and RC are right.

Pop and RC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Scola.

Dude, I remember you. You aren't only Scola lover. YOU are Oberto hater. Fab is a Spur guy not Scola. Are you a really Spurs fans? yeah! dead certain. :rolleyes

smeagol
03-31-2008, 10:39 AM
Dude...You're right.

Don’t get me wrong. I love Manu and Fab. Do you see my avatar?

But yeah! I'm sick and tired of all argies fans.

They aren't Spurs fans. They're only Manu, Fab or Scola fans.

J'adore les Spurs.

Suck my dick!

I consider myself as much a Spurs fan as the other guy. I feel as bad as any guy in San Antonio when the Spurs lose, and also get as happy as San Antonians do, when the Spurs win.

I still follow other Argentine players and get happy when they have good showings. But I could care less if the Rockets or Toronto wins.

Actually, before every Rocket game, I'm always hoping they lose for obvious reasons. That does not mean I cannot get happy when Scola puts up good numbers.

GrandeDavid
03-31-2008, 12:56 PM
Luis who?

Let's stop talking about Luis Scola, dawgs. Its a dead topic. He ain't a Spur. Besides, we've got Splitter and Mahinmi coming in soon, not saying that they are going to be better in the NBA than Scola, but they might be better fits and their contracts are actually Spurs property.

Galileo
03-31-2008, 01:34 PM
Oberto > Kurt Rambis

ancestron
03-31-2008, 02:09 PM
Its funny when Duncan posts up Scola, and Scola is holding his breath with his cheeks puffed out, and an "oh shit" look in his eyes. lol.

DAF86
03-31-2008, 02:20 PM
Dude...You're right.

Don’t get me wrong. I love Manu and Fab. Do you see my avatar?

But yeah! I'm sick and tired of all argies fans.

They aren't Spurs fans. They're only Manu, Fab or Scola fans.

J'adore les Spurs.

i'm an argie and i'm a spurs fan since 1998 (way before manu got to the spurs) and lots of argies said that are tired of the scola thing (me included) besides many of the guys that whine 'bout the trade aren't even argentines.
generalize is a very stupid thing to do so try not to do it.

eisfeld
03-31-2008, 02:25 PM
---> His D sucked ? Scola was defending TD, and he did it great.

Too bad they put Mutombo on Duncan not Scola...

Rip-Hamilton32
03-31-2008, 02:27 PM
why are there so many threads about this average player?

ancestron
03-31-2008, 02:27 PM
Scola was on Duncan at times.

remingtonbo2001
03-31-2008, 02:28 PM
http://www.mnwxchaser.com/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

It looks more like a camel.

kuato
03-31-2008, 02:33 PM
I'm sick and tired of all argies fans.

They aren't Spurs fans. They're only Manu, Fab or Scola fans.

J'adore les Spurs. Not so true, the players you named have something in common besides their nationality, they all have something to do with Spurs. Anyway this thread is senseless, Scola is a good player, it is bad not to see him playing along with Manu and Fabri but ... Spurs will be the NBA champions and we (the argies) will be here for the championship party. :downspin:

temujin
03-31-2008, 05:23 PM
Too bad they put Mutombo on Duncan not Scola...

Shhhh.

Don't tell to the Corporate guys in here.
Let them pretend they get payed for posting.

ChumpDumper
03-31-2008, 05:32 PM
Too bad they put Mutombo on Duncan not Scola...Scola guarded Duncan enough for them to conclude they didn't want Scola guarding Duncan.

Good game for him otherwise.

timvp
03-31-2008, 09:26 PM
Truth is that the Scola trade was a horrible one. Scola is playing better than I thought he would. If he grows in the NBA at the same rate as Manu and Nocioni did, he's going to be a stud. Spurs f'ed up. If you hear Pop talk about it, he knows the Spurs f'ed up. Basically the Spurs wanted to save some money ... they just went about it the wrong way.

At this point, I have to let it go. I've been b!tching about the trade for eight months or however long it's been. The Spurs were able to acquire Kurt Thomas, who makes missing out on Scola sting less.

And really, for this team this year, I want Duncan, Manu and Parker shooting as much as possible. The Spurs don't need an offensive minded bigman at the moment. The less everyone outside the Big Three has to shoot, the better. That's like the people who complain about Bowen not being a scoring option not realizing that Bowen shooting less means more shots for the Big Three.

I might be an Oberto homer but I take offense to the title of this thread. I trust Oberto to come up big in the playoffs ... just like I trusted him to come up big last year. He's a big game player who only seems to play better when the pressure is on. When Robinson retired, Oberto was the player I wanted to replace him in 2004. In the 2008 playoffs, I'm expecting even more from Oberto.

:hungry:

smeagol
03-31-2008, 09:48 PM
Truth is that the Scola trade was a horrible one. Scola is playing better than I thought he would. If he grows in the NBA at the same rate as Manu and Nocioni did, he's going to be a stud. Spurs f'ed up. If you hear Pop talk about it, he knows the Spurs f'ed up. Basically the Spurs wanted to save some money ... they just went about it the wrong way.

At this point, I have to let it go. I've been b!tching about the trade for eight months or however long it's been. The Spurs were able to acquire Kurt Thomas, who makes missing out on Scola sting less.

And really, for this team this year, I want Duncan, Manu and Parker shooting as much as possible. The Spurs don't need an offensive minded bigman at the moment. The less everyone outside the Big Three has to shoot, the better. That's like the people who complain about Bowen not being a scoring option not realizing that Bowen shooting less means more shots for the Big Three.

I might be an Oberto homer but I take offense to the title of this thread. I trust Oberto to come up big in the playoffs ... just like I trusted him to come up big last year. He's a big game player who only seems to play better when the pressure is on. When Robinson retired, Oberto was the player I wanted to replace him in 2004. In the 2008 playoffs, I'm expecting even more from Oberto.

:hungry:

Agreed with almost everything you said. :clap

MaNuMaNiAc
03-31-2008, 10:02 PM
Dude...You're right.

Don’t get me wrong. I love Manu and Fab. Do you see my avatar?

But yeah! I'm sick and tired of all argies fans.

They aren't Spurs fans. They're only Manu, Fab or Scola fans.

J'adore les Spurs.I'd be willing to bet anything I'm more of a Spurs fan than you. Next time, take your generalizations and shove them up your ass!

T Park
03-31-2008, 10:54 PM
---> His D sucked ? Scola was defending TD, and he did it great.


Scola was burned horrible
WTF game were you watching!??!

kuato
04-01-2008, 11:50 AM
Scola was burned horrible
WTF game were you watching!??! -------> What are you talking about ? , when Scola was defending TD the spurs game was external, from 3p and outside the paint , so ... how can you say that Scola was burned if TD most of the time doesnt have the ball when Luis was defending him ?¿?