Rasho's numbers in March

[lefty]

13 pts pg

7 rbds pg


Man that maple syrup must be powerful :D

[ducks]

there is a raptors thread in nba forum

[lefty]

there is a raptors thread in nba forum

No kidding....

I mentioned it here becasue he's a former Spur.

[ChumpDumper]

My stock answer: We should have traded him for Kurt Thomas when we had the chance.

[td4mvp21]

You probably gave ploto an orgasm. Maybe she won't be as much of a bitch now.

[lefty]

You probably gave Angel_luv an orgasm

[Kobayagi]

Rasho just alley-ooped. :toast

[Extra Stout]

Rasho's stats look better because of the decline of the dollar.

[Kobayagi]

Rasho with 12 and 3 in the 1st half.

On the other end, David West with 24 at halftime.

[Texas_Ranger]

Fuck, it woud be nice if he'd hit that 3 pointer.

[Kobayagi]

Fuck, it woud be nice if he'd hit that 3 pointer.


Looked like it was after the buzzer to me. I have no idea why Ford passed it to Rasho and didn't take the shot himself.

[Bruno]

Good for him.

[lefty]

Rasho's stats look better because of the decline of the dollar.

:lmao

[angel_luv]

Rasho just alley-ooped. :toast


Sweet!

[RashoFan]

You probably gave ploto an orgasm. Maybe she won't be as much of a bitch now.
Maybe Rasho is playing great TODAY just for me. :)

[Kobayagi]

I just hope that Rasho is bringing this A game that he's showing now to the national team in the summer. :fro

We could use a 15 and 10 Rasho.

[Mr. Body]

Rasho peaks after March.

[T Park]

Kurt Thomas would be averaging 26 and 10 in his position.

Because he is twice as good as Rasho.

[angel_luv]

Maybe Rasho is playing great TODAY just for me. :)


Oh my goodness!

Happy Birthday, Sis! :)

[timvp]

Kurt Thomas would be averaging 26 and 10 in his position.

Because he is twice as good as Rasho.I realize this was an exaggeration but Kurt Thomas couldn't average 26 points in the D-League these days.

Anyways, yeah Rasho put up most of his stats when Bosh was out injured. What's funny is I think people have incorrectly pegged Rasho his whole career. They see his nice guy demeanor and how he's willing to take a back seat and they think that he's a guy to put next to a dominant big who can be do the dirty work. However, that's just not his best role.

Rasho's best role is as the a main low post threat on a team. He's actually pretty good at scoring on the low block if he has room to operate. He can pass a bit, he can set screens and then once he gets going offensively, his defense and rebounding becomes a lot better.

If you put Rasho next to a dominant big, he gets timid offensively and then he's erratic in terms of rebounding and defense because he's not involved enough. He went from Garnett to Duncan to Bosh and has never really had a chance to show what he could do on his own team. But when he's been forced into the position, he has shown he can actually be a top ten center.

Basically, Rasho isn't an Otis Thorpe/Horace Grant/Fabricio Oberto/Robert Horry type off-the-ball role player. Rasho is best when he has the ball early and often. For example, if you switch him out onto the Clippers this season I think he puts up similar stats to Chris Kaman and the Clippers are a better team.

[RashoFan]

Oh my goodness!

Happy Birthday, Sis! :)
Thanks sis! Love ya!

[ducks]

timvp is right when duncan was hurt rasho went off

[velik_m]

The league going small really helped Rasho.

[ploto]

Anyways, yeah Rasho put up most of his stats when Bosh was out injured.


Rasho's best role is as the a main low post threat on a team. He's actually pretty good at scoring on the low block if he has room to operate. He can pass a bit, he can set screens and then once he gets going offensively, his defense and rebounding becomes a lot better.

Spurs fans would not recognize Rasho. The Raptors have used him in just the way you describe.

For the record, Rasho has put up good numbers even since Bosh came back.

The last 6 games--

3 off the bench with Bosh back:
65.5% FG 12.67 PPG 4.67 RPG

3 starting alongside Bosh:
57.9% FG 15.67 PPG 6.67 RPG

For the whole month of March:
57.5% FG 13.59 PPG 6.69 RPG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FmusH456RQ

[timvp]

Yeah, same thing happened around the time Duncan got back. But eventually, Rasho will be forgotten and his numbers will go back down.

But at least they stopped starting Bustnani. You still think he's a stud in the making?

:stirpot:

[ploto]

I have to say that Toronto has made more of an effort not to forget Rasho with Bosh back. Some of the things they found worked with Bosh out, they have continued to do with him back. I also think that this is a circumstance where Rasho knows how much the team really needs his contribution-- like he is more important to their success, so to speak.

As for Andrea- find a place where I said he was a stud in the making. Rasho continues to believe in what Andrea will eventually become and so I will trust his judgment over what I get to see in games. Andrea is going to spend time this summer getting knocked around in Houston with the John Lucas guys-- should do his some good.

[mystargtr34]

No way Rasho puts up 19-13 on any team in this league....which is what Chris Kaman was averging before his injury.... he couldnt put that up in the D League...

Any sort of 'decent' big can put up 12-7 type stats if they are the main 'big' option... you get fed the ball down low and u have a decent game you can put up these sorts of numbers.

So yes, Rasho is decent.

Kurt Thomas put up 14-9 for the Knicks a couple years back when he was the main big... and he averaged around 12 ppg 8 boards for about 5 seasons... which is what Rasho is putting up now.

Rasho makes Chris Kaman look like David Robinson running the floor.

[ata]

Yeah, same thing happened around the time Duncan got back. But eventually, Rasho will be forgotten and his numbers will go back down.

But at least they stopped starting Bustnani. You still think he's a stud in the making?

:stirpot:

Exactly, Rasho will be forgoten.
Playing alongside dominatig big causes that coaches forget that Rasho can score either - hence no plays for him. Mitchel saw what Rasho did w/o Bosh and suddenly Rasho may touch the ball even on the offensive end.

Let's enjoy it until it lasts.

[angel_luv]

Ata- :lol I wanted to read your post but I was so distracted by your avatar.
Very clever.

[Slohoop]

Wich Spurs fan? said once that he would stop watching basketball if Rasho scores 20pts + 10reb again? Yesterday 3 pointer:), today 23pts and 10reb!

Last 5 games: 18.0PTS, 7.2REB

[RashoFan]

Damn, I missed a Rasho for 3 opprotunity! :pctoss

[ploto]

Damn, I missed a Rasho for 3 opprotunity! :pctoss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iBtOtYUwcU

[RashoFan]

Thank you Ploto!!!! you rock!

[RashoFan]

Ohhh that was :smokin

[RashoFan]

I just noticed this...the first letter of the screen names RashoFan,Angel_Luv and Ploto are R A P. We 3 are Rasho fans and he plays for the RAPs....coincidence???? :lol

[BgT]

Yeah, same thing happened around the time Duncan got back. But eventually, Rasho will be forgotten and his numbers will go back down.
Watch a game or two and tell me if you still think the same. For instance the last game against Bobcats. Rasho and Bosh are main offensive options, even when they both play. I don't really see, why would that happen, can you explain that a bit? Obviously if you sit him down, like Pop did, his numbers are going to be 0/0. But if you play him, why would his numbers go down, I don't get that?

What people don't realize is, that Rasho has become a very important piece in offense, there are not many players who would be getting more touches, even when the plays are not made for him. As Mitchell said, they try to give him the ball as often as possible, because he can actually create offense on his own if necessary. He gets touches on almost every posession. How often that happened in SA?

Don't judge the player the way he was misused in San Antonio. Rasho has also become stronger and faster, he's in best shape of his career. I'll be the first one to admit, that I'm very surprised with the physical intensity in offense. I couldn't believe when I saw how easily he outmuscles most of the "centers" in the league at offensive end. With "center" I define this new breed of players, who play at center position, but lack size, strength or skill to be effective against real centers. Yeah, I know that a big guy like Rasho is supposed to do that, but I've never seen him doing that in San Antonio. This is one thing that I don't directly blame Pop for (only indirectly), his confidence was all-time low.

[Kobayagi]

I watched almost all of his March games. The biggest difference between Rasho's role in SA and his role in Toronto is that Pop used Rasho exclusively to make easy plays for others. It's like he wasn't allowed to make offensive plays. With the Raps you can actually see Bosh, their 1st option (!!) pass the ball to Rasho under the basket even though he could've easily finish the play himself. How many times did you see Tim pass the ball to Rasho? I'm not even counting how many times he gets the ball from TJ or Jose or Parker. Mitchell is trying to use all of his players on both ends of the floor, while Pop has his roles more strictly divided. There's the big three ... and then there's role players, which can easily be substituted by a completely different bunch of players next year and you couldn't tell the difference.

Pop and Mitchell have a completely different approach to the game and Rasho played his role well for both teams. The only reason he received so much hatred by the fans is his paycheck. But then again...is that really his fault? Rasho is one of the biggest professionals in the nba today. You never see him complain about coach's decisions.

[RashoFan]

^
:clap
Nicely put!

[angel_luv]

I just noticed this...the first letter of the screen names RashoFan,Angel_Luv and Ploto are R A P. We 3 are Rasho fans and he plays for the RAPs....coincidence???? :lol

Aww... awesome! :)

If we make Shelly a Raptors fan we could have RAPS. :)

[Kobayagi]

After 20 minutes Rasho with 16 and 8. He's going for career high tonight. I'm calling it. :toast

[BgT]

And 2 blocks. WTF.

[Kobayagi]

5 of those rebs were offensive. :fro

[Kobayagi]

Someone should rename the thread. It's not March anymore.

[ploto]

Following last night's game of 23 and 10:

At halftime tonight, Rasho is 8/9 with 16 points, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 1 torn net.

[Kobayagi]

How did he tear the net?

[Kobayagi]

Rasho with another double-double :toast


Krstic and swift in foul trouble early in the 3rd.

[ploto]

Consecutive 20 and 10 games on back to back nights. Halfway through the third quarter and Rasho already has 20 points and 11 rebounds.

[ploto]

How did he tear the net?
He got a big block on Ager and caught his hand in the net and tore it.

[lefty]

Aren't we in April?

:D

[Kobayagi]

Consecutive 20 and 10 on b2b games is no joke. Too bad the season is coming to an end, or he'd be considered for MIP.

[Kobayagi]

22 points on 10/12 shooting, 14 rebounds (7 off) and 3 blocks in 38 minutes. :toast

[remingtonbo2001]

It's nice to see Sho' doing well.

[angel_luv]

I wish I was getting to watch these games.

[ploto]

Consecutive 20 and 10 on b2b games is no joke. Too bad the season is coming to an end, or he'd be considered for MIP.
Marv Albert was saying he has been the MIP the last 2 months of the season.

The most amazing thing is that in the past 4 games, Rasho has shot 12 free throws!! 12!! And even more surprisingly he has made 11 of them. He is really just playing off Bosh and finding his spots and scoring. PJ Carlesimo always said that if you gave Rasho starter's minutes, he would produce.

I said when he left SA that his best was still to come. I just hate that I have to watch it on TV. :(

[angel_luv]

I said when he left SA that his best was still to come. I just hate that I have to watch it on TV. :(


You called it.

I knew it, too. :)

[ploto]

I want Rasho nominated for player of the week. This week he has played 4 games; shot 60.7% from the field; 91.6% from the FT line (11/12); averaged exactly 20 points and 9.75 rebounds per game; and had 3 double-doubles.

[angel_luv]

I second it. :)

I bet Sho gets picked. He should.

[Kobayagi]

I want Rasho nominated for player of the week. This week he averaged exactly 20 points and 9.75 rebounds per game


I think he has a really good chance. Are you kidding me...those are this year's Kevin Garnett numbers right there. :king

[RashoFan]

I second it. :)

I bet Sho gets picked. He should.
I would like to "third" that!
I am glad the Rasho is finally in his comfort zone.
:king
He is young and is healthy. Staying in Toronto, there will be more to come from the Rasho!!!
BOOK IT!!!!:elephant

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

i always like rasho's position D

[Obstructed_View]

You probably gave Angel_luv an orgasm
Lucky bastige.

[Bruno]

Rasho > Scola :stirpot:

[BgT]

i always like rasho's position D
Yeah, but in the meantime his overall D became equally good and he keeps surprising me at the offensive end. He'd be getting a very nice paycheck if he was a free agent. I actually believe, that there are many teams, who wouldn't mind trading for his 8M last season contract. People believe that he is going to be traded this summer.

[timvp]

I want Rasho nominated for player of the week.ROFL. You do realize that the Raptors lost three of those four games, right? Including the last three games. Somehow I don't see that little tidbit mentioned in this thread :lol


Don't judge the player the way he was misused in San Antonio. Rasho has also become stronger and faster, he's in best shape of his career.First of all, I agree that Rasho is in the best shape of his career. Well, the best shape of his career since he left Minnesota.

I've defended Rasho all season in saying he's vastly superior to Bustnani, however I lost a little bit of respect for him. I used to think that he didn't produce in San Antonio because he just was incapable of doing what the Spurs wanted. Now it's starting to look more and more like Rasho just has Beno-itis in that he just plays well when it's time for a new contract. Rasho can opt out of his contract this summer ... and suddenly he's actually in the best shape of his life and giving huge amount of effort on both ends of the court. Coincidence? :rolleyes

You can say the Spurs misused him offensively if you want. But if Rasho would have ever rebounded like he's rebounding now, he wouldn't have fallen out of favor. Rebounding is all about effort; there's no "misuse" that would make a player rebound as poorly as Rasho did at times while in San Antonio. Why didn't Rasho get into this kind of shape while in San Antonio? If he was as mobile as he is now, Pop could have used him against Dirk in the 2006 playoffs. Has he matured as a basketball player and his work ethic has grown, or was it because he wasn't going to be a free agent for a long time?

I hope I'm wrong but now I feel dirty for defending him all year. It's hard for me to rationalize that Rasho has now magically played his best basketball right before becoming a free agent both times. He's now showing that Pop was right to demand more rebounding, more heart and better conditioning. Rasho had it in him all along.

Oh and I don't really get the supposed Raptors/Rasho fans being all excited about his recent play. Has no one noticed that since Rasho has exploded onto the scene that the Raptors have gone into the tank? Rasho has been playing well for 20 games now ... in which the Raptors are 6-14. Before that they were 32-25.

But yeah, if he keeps this up he can opt out and get one last good contract. Props to him for the forthcoming money :tu

[ploto]

ROFL. You do realize that the Raptors lost three of those four games, right? Including the last three games. Somehow I don't see that little tidbit mentioned in this thread :lol
I talked about that plenty in the Raptors thread. This thread was about his numbers.


I used to think that he didn't produce in San Antonio because he just was incapable of doing what the Spurs wanted. Now it's starting to look more and more like Rasho just has Beno-itis in that he just plays well when it's time for a new contract. Rasho can opt out of his contract this summer ... and suddenly he's actually in the best shape of his life and giving huge amount of effort on both ends of the court. Coincidence?

You have no clue of what you speak. First off, it is very different for Rasho playing alongside Bosh than Tim. It is much more like when he played with KG because Bosh and KG play more alike. Tim plays more in the post and there was never enough room for Rasho to operate in the post alongside Tim.

As for his shape: When the Spurs signed Rasho, THEY asked him to bulk up- THEY wanted him to get bigger to deal with Shaq primarily. THEY created for him a program that made him get larger and bigger and hence slower. It was him doing what the SPURS wanted that made him bigger than when he played in Minnesota. The Spurs started to want to play smaller and Rasho's last year in SAn Antonio he worked to shed some of the bulk he gained AT THE SPURS REQUEST. The Raptors want to run, and Rasho worked hard over the past 2 years to lose the bulk he gained in San Antonio.

As for his contract, Rasho has NO desire to opt out to try to gain a new contract elsewhere. I told you a year ago, and we still have a bet, that Rasho would opt out and sign a new deal with less money up front to stay in Toronto- if the Raptors want to keep him.



I hope I'm wrong but now I feel dirty for defending him all year. It's hard for me to rationalize that Rasho has now magically played his best basketball right before becoming a free agent both times. He's now showing that Pop was right to demand more rebounding, more heart and better conditioning. Rasho had it in him all along.

Rasho worked his ass off in San Antonio- you can ask anyone. Maybe he has a coach again who knows how to use him. As much as I hate KG, he said numerous times that the Spurs used Rasho wrongly.


Rasho has been playing well for 20 games now ... in which the Raptors are 6-14.
You know Bosh has been hurt and all Raptor fans know that without Rasho, they would have lost even more.

I am sad to say that I have lost all respect for you. You have to bash Rasho instead of admitting the truth that the Spurs did not make use of the skills he had. And he has a PG now who even passes him the ball.

[timvp]

I talked about that plenty in the Raptors thread. This thread was about his numbers.So there are separate threads for wins and numbers? :wtf


You have no clue of what you speak. First off, it is very different for Rasho playing alongside Bosh than Tim. It is much more like when he played with KG because Bosh and KG play more alike. Tim plays more in the post and there was never enough room for Rasho to operate in the post alongside Tim.Where did I say anything about operating in the post?


As for his shape: When the Spurs signed Rasho, THEY asked him to bulk up- THEY wanted him to get bigger to deal with Shaq primarily. THEY created for him a program that made him get larger and bigger and hence slower. It was him doing what the SPURS wanted that made him bigger than when he played in Minnesota. The Spurs started to want to play smaller and Rasho's last year in SAn Antonio he worked to shed some of the bulk he gained AT THE SPURS REQUEST. The Raptors want to run, and Rasho worked hard over the past 2 years to lose the bulk he gained in San Antonio.There is a difference between bulking up and losing stamina. Rasho these days can play for 48 minutes without breaking a sweat. With the Spurs there's no way he was in condition to do that.


As for his contract, Rasho has NO desire to opt out to try to gain a new contract elsewhere. I told you a year ago, and we still have a bet, that Rasho would opt out and sign a new deal with less money up front to stay in Toronto- if the Raptors want to keep him. Good luck winning that bet. I still say he isn't going to opt out and sign for less money with the Raptors. The only way that happens is if they officially give up on Bustnani.


Rasho worked his ass off in San Antonio- you can ask anyone. Maybe he has a coach again who knows how to use him. As much as I hate KG, he said numerous times that the Spurs used Rasho wrongly.There is no such thing as using someone wrong to the point that they stop rebounding and lose stamina. Those two things point to effort ... not coaching. And I know he worked pretty hard in SA. But it's also obvious he has worked harder this season than he ever did in SA.


You know Bosh has been hurt and all Raptor fans know that without Rasho, they would have lost even more.Lose even more? Five of the six games the Raptors won were against teams in full tank mode -- Miami (twice), New York, Seattle and Charlotte. I'll give you the Detroit game but 5-15 isn't much different than 6-14.


I am sad to say that I have lost all respect for you. You have to bash Rasho instead of admitting the truth that the Spurs did not make use of the skills he had. And he has a PG now who even passes him the ball.ROFL. I'm devastated :dramaquee

I've backed Rasho all year. Even back when you thought Bustnani was the second coming, I said Rasho was the better player. I'm just pointing out that his energy level is reminiscent of his final year in Minnesota. He's rebounding and can run all day. You can believe that it's a coincidence that he's having a breakout stretch of games a couple months before he can become a free agent. And while it may very well be a coincidence, I'm not sure if I buy it.

Again, props to Rasho for the breakthrough. I'm not surprised by the offensive production because, like I said earlier in the thread, he's actually a good low post scorer when made the first option. He just hasn't had a chance to show off that part of his game a whole bunch. But I am surprised about his added toughness, rebounding and stamina. Hopefully he can continue his improvement into the playoffs to help Toronto give some of those Eastern Conference teams a tougher time.

If you are the Rasho fan you claim to be, you should hope Rasho signs with a team that will let him start all year next season and let him be a main low post threat. For example, he'd be pretty dominant on a team like the Bobcats or even *gulp* the Mavs. If Rasho stays with the Raptors, he's going to keep getting jacked around as they keep trying to force Bustnani into the lineup.

It'd be nice to have him back on the Spurs someday ... just this time with a one-year contract.

:smokin

[T Park]

It'd be nice to have him back on the Spurs someday ... just this time with a one-year contract.



no thanks too many better options in the pipe.

[T Park]

I thoroughly convinced that a basketball player with talent and promise can generally feel good about himself and after a few "hiccups" Pop can have that person thinking he should take a long walk of a Short peer.

I think P.J. was a BIG part of the success that the Spurs have enjoyed and he is sorely missed. He has more coaching pedigreed than Pop For Sure. He (P.J.) has coached on every level and had success.

I know Pop doesn't ask for it but he gets WAY to much run for the success of the team.

Tim Ducan would be a winner in many different organization and it was only by God's grace that we lucked out on that lottery ball that year. I think that David is such a Saintly person that when he had such a bad run of it from 92-96(he'd put up unbelievable numbers and then fail miserably in the play offs) topped of by him being injured in 96, GOD said

"DAVID....I WILL GIVE YOU TIM DUNCAN...AN THY SOUL WILL BE HEALED"


Come on Manu...well he is just MANUIFICANT...the guy was an unbelievable competitor with an indomitable personality BEFORE he got to the Spurs...so he was Pop Proof....


Parker is just such an phenomenally physically gifted athlete he also would have been GREAT in any other franchise...Kudos to R.C. for FINDING those players...


I think this stems from Pop's Academy training. You know where they BREAK YOU DOWN only to BUILD YOU UP...

Well that approach doesn't always work sometimes Positive re enforcement works....


:lmao

[ata]

...
You can say the Spurs misused him offensively if you want. But if Rasho would have ever rebounded like he's rebounding now, he wouldn't have fallen out of favor. Rebounding is all about effort; there's no "misuse" that would make a player rebound as poorly as Rasho did at times while in San Antonio. Why didn't Rasho get into this kind of shape while in San Antonio? If he was as mobile as he is now, Pop could have used him against Dirk in the 2006 playoffs. Has he matured as a basketball player and his work ethic has grown, or was it because he wasn't going to be a free agent for a long time?
....

Stats per 48 min, Pts&Rbd
99-00 13.0 10.5 Min
00-01 12.8 11.1
01-02 14.9 11.6
02-03 17.7 10.3
-----------------------
03-04 14.6 12.9 SA
04-05 11.1 12.4
05-06 11.4 9.9
-----------------------
06-07 14.2 10.3 Tor
07-08 10.4 11.3
-----------------------
L10 24.2 10.7 Last 10

So, I guess, he put his best numbers in SA in first year, because ha wasn't to be FA for a long time? Or has droping the number anything to do with special diet for muscle grow?

As you can see, Rasho is pretty constant with his rebouding numbers, so his effort shouldn't be questioned. It would be interesting to see, how his presence on the court influences rebouding numbers of his teammates (boxing-out etc.)

It is first time I hear, that Rasho's work ethic and/or shape should be questioned.

In last games Rasho suddenly become option in the offensive end. In SA, behind TD, TP and Manu, he didn't touch the ball. How many plays for Rasho was there in the Pop's playbook? When Timmy was injured during Rasho's 1st year in SA, Rasho was able to put nice numbers (points), after Timmy got back, Rasho was forgoten.
Same thing in Toronto, Mitchell finnaly realised, that project AB won't work this year, and since Toronto's perimeter players are strugling, Rasho get more chances - and he materialize 60% of them in Last10 games. And to comment Raptors' losses - with perimeter defence Raptors have, they are really able to win againts tanking teams only. BTW: are Bobcats tanking?

EDIT: mismatched Pts&Rbs for L10

[SlovenianGuy]

You can say the Spurs misused him offensively if you want. But if Rasho would have ever rebounded like he's rebounding now, he wouldn't have fallen out of favor. Rebounding is all about effort; there's no "misuse" that would make a player rebound as poorly as Rasho did at times while in San Antonio. Why didn't Rasho get into this kind of shape while in San Antonio? If he was as mobile as he is now, Pop could have used him against Dirk in the 2006 playoffs. Has he matured as a basketball player and his work ethic has grown, or was it because he wasn't going to be a free agent for a long time?

Timvp, I usually agree with you but this time the stats are proving you wrong.

Rebounding numbers are strongly correlated with playing time and if you look at Rasho's rebounds per 48 minutes, he's numbers are worse this season than in the first two years with the Spurs (11.32 vs. 12.91 and 12.34).

Even in the last month, when he was hihgly praised for his play, he's rebounding numbers haven't inceased at all. Actually, his rebounding rate (RBD per 48 min) is below his season average (11.17).

The only thing that makes it look like Rasho has improved his rebounding is increased playing time, he is getting in the last month.

[ChumpDumper]

sub .500 team in the east <> Spurs

[ploto]

The Atlanta Hawks’ Joe Johnson and the Los Angeles Lakers’ Kobe Bryant today were named the Eastern and Western Conference Players of the Week, respectively, for games played Monday, March 31, through Sunday, April 6.

Other nominees for the Eastern and Western Conference Players of the Week were Dallas’ Dirk Nowitzki, Detroit’s Rodney Stuckey, New Orleans’ Chris Paul, Philadelphia’s Andre Iguodala, Sacramento’s Kevin Martin, Toronto’s Rasho Nesterovic and Utah’s Deron Williams.

http://www.nba.com/news/pow_080407.html

Apologies accepted.

[ChumpDumper]

Who nominates players for that award?

[ploto]

If you are the Rasho fan you claim to be, you should hope Rasho signs with a team that will let him start all year next season and let him be a main low post threat. For example, he'd be pretty dominant on a team like the Bobcats or even *gulp* the Mavs. If Rasho stays with the Raptors, he's going to keep getting jacked around as they keep trying to force Bustnani into the lineup.

As big of a fan as I am of the basketball player Rasho and what I wish for him for his own basketball success, I am an even bigger fan of the person and he is happy in Toronto. Management loves him; the coach loves him; his teammates love him; and even some of the fans love him. His family is happy in Toronto, and I believe they would all like to stay there. I know that Rasho has no plans to opt out to go elsewhere. I can tell you that for sure. Either he picks up his option and lives with what may happen-- will they use it to trade for a wing player-- or he tries to work out a new deal to stay in Toronto.

[Kobayagi]

I hope he stays in Toronto, even if that means never having a deep playoff run again.

[Kibic]

So there are separate threads for wins and numbers? :wtf

Where did I say anything about operating in the post?

There is a difference between bulking up and losing stamina. Rasho these days can play for 48 minutes without breaking a sweat. With the Spurs there's no way he was in condition to do that.

Good luck winning that bet. I still say he isn't going to opt out and sign for less money with the Raptors. The only way that happens is if they officially give up on Bustnani.

There is no such thing as using someone wrong to the point that they stop rebounding and lose stamina. Those two things point to effort ... not coaching. And I know he worked pretty hard in SA. But it's also obvious he has worked harder this season than he ever did in SA.

Lose even more? Five of the six games the Raptors won were against teams in full tank mode -- Miami (twice), New York, Seattle and Charlotte. I'll give you the Detroit game but 5-15 isn't much different than 6-14.

ROFL. I'm devastated :dramaquee

I've backed Rasho all year. Even back when you thought Bustnani was the second coming, I said Rasho was the better player. I'm just pointing out that his energy level is reminiscent of his final year in Minnesota. He's rebounding and can run all day. You can believe that it's a coincidence that he's having a breakout stretch of games a couple months before he can become a free agent. And while it may very well be a coincidence, I'm not sure if I buy it.

Again, props to Rasho for the breakthrough. I'm not surprised by the offensive production because, like I said earlier in the thread, he's actually a good low post scorer when made the first option. He just hasn't had a chance to show off that part of his game a whole bunch. But I am surprised about his added toughness, rebounding and stamina. Hopefully he can continue his improvement into the playoffs to help Toronto give some of those Eastern Conference teams a tougher time.

If you are the Rasho fan you claim to be, you should hope Rasho signs with a team that will let him start all year next season and let him be a main low post threat. For example, he'd be pretty dominant on a team like the Bobcats or even *gulp* the Mavs. If Rasho stays with the Raptors, he's going to keep getting jacked around as they keep trying to force Bustnani into the lineup.

It'd be nice to have him back on the Spurs someday ... just this time with a one-year contract.

:smokin
Well, now you go childish way. Still believe when Suprs will be on their winning streak again, you will be more realistic. I'll wait.

Nice pose.

[ata]

sub .500 team in the east <> Spurs
So, what is new?

[Kibic]

With Rasho on board, Spurs would even have chances to win title this year.

[sabar]

Plays in the leastern conference in a contract year. Beno must be mentoring him on contract years and money. Anyways, it's funny that Rasho couldn't rebound for his life when we needed it and then Kurt Thomas comes in and learns the system in a month and posts better reb/min stats.

Anyways, good for Rasho, good for the Spurs. Everyone wins.

[Dario]

To say that rasho's work ethick was bad in SA is lame and i believe most people dont think so. He was always a team player, never complained and was never selfish. You question his rebounds now? He always boxed out, when he could grab him an easy rebound, he taped away numerous balls to teammates, when he could increase his rebounding average, all good for his team not his stats. His effort was for the good of the team not for his own good and its lame that he is criticized for that.
Beno on the other hand is another story.

[Kamnik]

I usually agree with and believe everything you write TIMVP...

But even using Beno and Rasho in the same sentence is WRONG.




Beno is lazy and really plays good ONLY when his new contract is coming up.

Rasho on the other hand stepped up several times also in SA when TD went down etc. The same happened in TOR with Bosh injured and with them giving up on Bargnani



I cant believe im saying this.. but im with PLOTO on this one. :smokin

[sendman]

1. Rasho is a miner.
2. Beno is an engineer aka viking!

All you have to do is to give them the right job and time to perform.

There you go, I didn't mentioned them in the same sentence.

[ChumpDumper]

Who nominates players for that award?

[ata]

Plays in the leastern conference in a contract year. Beno must be mentoring him on contract years and money. Anyways, it's funny that Rasho couldn't rebound for his life when we needed it and then Kurt Thomas comes in and learns the system in a month and posts better reb/min stats.

Anyways, good for Rasho, good for the Spurs. Everyone wins.

Numbers proves you wrong

[ploto]

Q: I thought that Plan A in the Raps cap management strategy was to develop Bargnani in time for the expiration of Nesterovic's contract, thereby having the shiny new centre in place upon the release of the old. Along the way this strategy has stalled somewhat as Barg's big-man development is glacial and Coach has tripped over a producer in Rasho. Therefore, if BC is to acquire the well-needed slasher/defender small forward, he might need to regroup and trade a PG and some spare parts instead of Rasho and spare parts for the 3. What think thou?

Don T, Kincardine

A: I think Rasho’s play – and Bargnani’s – is going to cause a bit of dilemma. I would have thought Rasho’s contract with one year left coupled with maybe another player and a draft pick could have brought back a substantial swingman in a trade. But maybe that’s not the way they go now, maybe they do have to rethink offering Nesterovic around. And that would mean one other guy could be on the market from Toronto and I dare not say who.

But I agree with your assessment.

http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/2008/04/more-mid-week-m.html

[ploto]

4/9/08

14 points (7/14)
6 rebounds

14 straight games in double figures.

[ploto]

"It's not that Rasho suddenly learned how to play; he's being utilized differently and taken advantage of that opportunity and he's been unbelievable for the last month to two months." ---Bryan Colangelo

State of the Franchise (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080411.WBwbbasketball20080411102842/WBStory/WBwbbasketball)

[ChumpDumper]

Who nominates players for that award?

[lefty]

Isn't March over ? :wtf

[ChumpDumper]

Isn't Rasho on a .500 team in the east? :wtf

[velik_m]

Who nominates players for that award?

"For the 7th season in a row, the league is naming a Player of the Month
for each conference."
That's as much as i was able to dig up, but it's an interesting question.

[Bruno]

I'm curious to see what Rasho will do in playoffs.
Last year player like Walter Hermann and Tarence Kinsey played very well in March/April. They have done nothing this year.
I hope that Rasho won't end up like that and be back at his usual level during the playoffs and the next year.

[Jack Sommersset]

I forgot all about Rasho. After I hit quick reply I will forget again.

[ata]

sub .500 team in the east <> Spurs


Isn't Rasho on a .500 team in the east? :wtf

You are repeating yourself.

BTW: Nobody argues your statements.