Denver (45-28) at Phoenix (49-24)

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Game info: 10:00 pm EDT Mon Mar 31, 2008 TV: NBA, FSAZ Add to Calendar | Buy Tickets By BRETT HUSTON, STATS Writer
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Return to Original Buzz Up PrintDespite being 17 games over .500, the Denver Nuggets find themselves in danger of missing the playoffs in the loaded Western Conference. If they continue to play the way they have lately, however, they may be able to join what should be a formidable postseason field.

The Nuggets look to tie a season high with their sixth straight win as they hit the road to open a home-and-home series with the Phoenix Suns on Monday.

Denver (45-28) had been sitting in ninth place in the West behind Golden State since the end of February, but finally jumped past the Warriors on Saturday night. The Nuggets defeated Golden State 119-112 for their eighth straight home victory, moving them into the conference’s final playoff spot - for now.

“Every game is important from here on out,” said guard Allen Iverson, who had 14 points on just 4-of-20 shooting. “We understand even if we got this one, we’ve got to concentrate on getting the next one. We’re not satisfied.”


The Nuggets were a half-game up on Golden State and a half-game back of Dallas entering play Sunday. With all three teams boasting at least 44 wins, it seems likely the NBA will have a 50-win team left out of the playoffs for the first time.

Denver is the NBA’s third-highest scoring team at 109.7 points per game, but it’s been even more impressive offensively in its last 14 games. The Nuggets are averaging 120.0 points in that span, more than enough to overcome the 110.2 per game they’ve been allowing.

Perhaps the most impressive aspect of Denver’s offensive outburst is its balance. Beyond the team’s top scorers, Iverson and Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin is averaging 17.5 points over his last eight games, while reserve J.R. Smith has given the Nuggets 15.5 per game in that stretch.

Iverson is averaging 33.3 points in his last four contests against Phoenix (49-24), while Anthony is averaging 30.3 in his last eight versus the Suns.

Denver is 30-7 at home and has won 18 of its last 20 there. The Nuggets are 15-21 on the road, but have won their last three away from the Pepsi Center, all during their current five-game winning streak.

The Suns are one of five West teams within two games of the conference’s top spot. They’re returning home after a four-game trip that saw them drop the first two - losses that followed a seven-game winning streak - then rebound with wins in Philadelphia and New Jersey.

Amare Stoudemire had 33 points and 15 rebounds - his fourth 30-plus point effort in his last five games - in a 110-104 victory over the Nets on Saturday.

“This was very important,” said Stoudemire, averaging 30.4 points in his last 10 games. “We are playing well, we are all jelling and showing great improvement.”

Stoudemire has been outstanding since Shaquille O’Neal joined the Suns last month, but O’Neal’s recent progress is perhaps the most encouraging sign for Phoenix as it battles the Los Angeles Lakers for the Pacific Division lead.

O’Neal, who initially struggled in the Suns’ up-tempo system, is averaging 16.6 points and 10.0 rebounds in his last five games.

“I’m just doing what’s asked of me,” O’Neal said. “Amare is the first option. This is a team were guys don’t worry about shots.”

O’Neal had 12 points and 18 rebounds in a 126-113 loss at Denver on March 5.

The teams have split two meetings this season, each winning at home. The Nuggets haven’t won in Phoenix in their last six visits.

[monosylab1k]

go suns?

[Findog]

go suns?

Go Nuggets if you'd rather have the 14th pick.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

suns will dominate this time. Totally different team to last time they met.

[mavsfan1000]

Go Thuggets.

[O-Factor]

Fuck that bitch Melo, but Go Nuggets

[Matchman]

Two Stat padders going at each other? must be fun dunking the shit out of the ball

[TampaDude]

Suns are only 1.5 games back...Nuggets are 5.5 games back and less of a threat to the Spurs in the standings...GO NUGGETS!!! :toast

[TampaDude]

Nuggets up 39-25 at the end of the 1st...they are really taking it to the Suns...

[ducks]

suns did not score the last 3 and half minutes in first
but denver can not play d LOL

[spursrocksocks]

lol did you see amare flop for a T

[TampaDude]

Crawford handing out the Ts as usual... :lol

[TampaDude]

Nuggets ran the score to 43-25 before PHX scored again...crazy...

[ShoogarBear]

Hokey smokes. Nuggies are playing the best D I've ever seen them play. They're flying all over the court. Freakin' Najera just blocked Shaq.

How long can this last?

[DazedAndConfused]

Goddamn there is no reason the Nuggets should be battling for the #8 seed. They have so much fucking talent!

[TampaDude]

Nuggets have 50 already with 8:14 still left in the first half...holy shit...

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

man i hate Amare. Biggest bitch in the NBA (yes, even bigger than melo)

Nene looks awesome considering

[ElNono]

It's getting chippy out there...
Good game so far

[Amuseddaysleeper]

props to the Nuggs


I hope they blow Phoenix out of the water

[DazedAndConfused]

So what do you guys think........Nuggets the sleeper team in the WC this year? I think they more than the Warriors or Mavs have the ability to upset any of the top #3 teams in the WC.

[ShoogarBear]

Shaq blows the bunny against Christian Slater.

[ElNono]

So what do you guys think........Nuggets the sleeper team in the WC this year? I think they more than the Warriors or Mavs have the ability to upset any of the top #3 teams in the WC.

Nuggets are still first round fodder...

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

yeh dont confuse a run in regular season play with a playoff run

they will win a game again and get out, assuming they do get in lol

[ShoogarBear]

So what do you guys think........Nuggets the sleeper team in the WC this year? I think they more than the Warriors or Mavs have the ability to upset any of the top #3 teams in the WC.Depends on the matchup. The Nuggets and George Karl over a 7-game series are not likely to keep their composure. The Spurs and Lakers should handle them relatively easily, but it will be really physical.

Nuggets against another emotional team like the Warriors or Suns would be high entertainment, but unlikely to happen.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

While the Nuggets won't be a pushover, I just don't think this team has the playoff push to get past round 1.


They don't have a high B-ball IQ, and I'm not really all that sold on George Karl.


Having said that, I wouldn't wanna see them in round 1

[Amuseddaysleeper]

damnit Shoogar, you're stealing my thoughts!

[ElNono]

When a team scores 70 points in a half, like what the Nuggets are on pace for right now, it's not about how potent they are offensively, but how poor is the other team's defense.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

dang! talk about sharing the load. we have 4 guys in double figures in the 1st half!

[spursrocksocks]

man this is fucking great, I feel all warm and fuzzy win suns are getting blown out and starting to cry

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Damn, I didn't know that Hill was out. How long is he out for?

[Warlord23]

Wow .. this has the makings of a beatdown. Too bad the Nuggets are very likely to piss it away in the 2nd half

[ThomasGranger]

I'm hoping for a Nuggets / Hornets series in the first round--that would be a barn burner.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

i am loving melo's play lately - 12/9/3 already

[ShoogarBear]

Suns are back to pre-Shaq rebounding. Nuggies shooting 63% AND have 6 offensive rebounds.

[SAtown]

:lmao Amare

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

its a long game and nuggets are known to let teams back into games, just ask the warriors lol

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

see, already a run by the suns lol

[ShoogarBear]

Nice pass, Camby.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

i love seeing Kmart dunk on Amare......... :smokin

[ElNono]

Kaman down with sprained ankle in the Dallas game...

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

wow he didnt last long

[CubanMustGo]

Damn, I didn't know that Hill was out. How long is he out for?


Suns' Hill out tonight

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Mar. 31, 2008 05:44 PM

Suns forward Grant Hill will not play in tonight's home game against Denver and probably will not play Tuesday at Denver either.

Hill also missed Saturday's game because of a right groin strain that has been bothering him since he first sustained the injury in a March 19 game at Seattle.

Suns coach Mike D'Antoni initially believed that Hill was going to be able to play after this morning's shootaround but he did not realize that the shootaround workout had Hill reconsidering how ready he felt for action.

Leandro Barbosa is expected to start in Hill's place again.

This is where Duh'Antoni pays for his asinine refusal to develop a bench rotation (>2 players).

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

comen clipps!

[Cry Havoc]

Goddamn there is no reason the Nuggets should be battling for the #8 seed. They have so much fucking talent!

Talent has never won a single NBA game by itself.

[Allanon]

Nugz putting a beating on the Suns. It's this kind of offensive brilliance that makes the Nugz a bad team to meet in the first round of the Playoffs.

I think Nugz vs Hornets in first round would be a Nugz win because they have starpower. CP3 is now a star but he's a newly minted star.

[TampaDude]

Nuggets up 70-51 at the half...70 fucking points in the first half on 60% shooting...holy fucking shit what an ass kicking so far...we'll see what happens in the second half...

[boutons_]

Nuggs FG% 60% - 32%.

Bell, Barbosa, Diaw not scoring.

[CubanMustGo]

Uh-oh, someone woke up the Suns. 77-66 7:32 left in the 3rd.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

The nuggets should be ashamed of themselves, they are batter than this

[boutons_]

Suns 17-7 in the 3rd in 5 minutes, oops!

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Good shit A.I!

[san antonio spurs]

shaq with 4

[san antonio spurs]

shot clock violation. The nuggs playin D

[ShoogarBear]

Nuggs just jacking up shots on offense now and have gotten the Suns back in it.

[DazedAndConfused]

Denver :(. I can see why this team is never going to win anything in the playoffs. They simply lack the focus to execute a consistent gameplan for a full 48 minutes. Shaq goes out and instead of attacking the rim they launch jumpshots. George Karl makes zero substitutions and watches an 18pt lead evaporate to a 6pt lead.

[td4mvp21]

Nuggets are fucking chokers :lol Dumb motherfuckers.

[ShoogarBear]

WTF is Carmelo doing?

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Wow the nuggets defense is similar to ours....

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

told you the nuggs would choke.

This one is over. The nuggets let a big one slip away. Back to 9th :lol

[MrChug]

I love how Nugz fans are squirmin and realizing what a piece of shit their team is!!

(okay, that was just mean...but it's kinda true :D)

This choke has DEFINITELY 100% been less about what the Denver Nutless haven't been able to do than what PHX has done. They just kept their heads...the Nugs lost theirs. Even with a Nugz win, this is embarassing.

[ShoogarBear]

Smart move, D'Antoni. :lol

[san antonio spurs]

WTF an assistant getting a tech

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Nice way to start of the 4th for the suns...

[Warlord23]

I don't understand how George Karl is still taken seriously as a head coach in this league. He's had some very talented teams and has done zilch with them. This Nugget team has the best talent in their division and is a top 5 collection of talent in the league.

Of course, this isn't the first time for GK. Seattle, Milwaukee all had super talented teams which didn't amount to much at the end of the day

[san antonio spurs]

camby :lol

[ShoogarBear]

Nash is the all-time league record-holder at bitching when he wasn't even close to being set on defense.

[N4th4n]

Jr smith owns the suns!!

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Nash is the all-time league record-holder at bitching when he wasn't even close to being set on defense.

:toast

[Amuseddaysleeper]

nash is whining about that shit?


I have lost almost any respect I had for him this season

[boutons_]

Nash 7-10 on 3Gs, Sun 10-22 3Gs

Nuggs only +4 with 7 mins left

Are they tough enough to hang on?

Nuggs only 15-21 on the road.

[Kriz-Maxima]

And the Suns take the lead...hell of a job Denver.


And the Suns back to bitching.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

WTF I just turned the game back on Suns were getting killed now they have the lead.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

rofl, nash should've won the MVP last year as well? (according to the announcer)

gimme a break

[san antonio spurs]

suns players never commit a foul.
Or am I mistaken?

[boutons_]

Nuggs vs hostile crowd, gotta be tough, are they?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Nash's three to take the lead was ballsy.

[CubanMustGo]

Nash 7-10 on 3Gs, Sun 10-22 3Gs

Nuggs only +4 with 7 mins left

Are they tough enough to hang on?

Nuggs only 15-21 on the road.

Magic 8-ball say Nuggs goin' down.

[N4th4n]

suns players never commit a foul.
Or am I mistaken?
Nope, your not mistaken. We never foul!

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

rofl, nash should've won the MVP last year as well? (according to the announcer)

gimme a break
:lol

Well, given how Dirk won it, I 'd say it was up for grabs by any of those guys.

[crc21209]

I dont get it how come the ref let Shaq get mugged and mugged and it looked like it shouldve been a call before his dunk but then he waited until he was "about" to dunk it then called the foul thus allowing the 3 point play. lol either way Denver fucking sucks talk about choke job, No D.

[Banzai]

suns alive

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Suns look like a different team, from the ones I watched when they first started with Shaq.

They're going to make for some good playoff basketball.

[Kriz-Maxima]

Denver sucks.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Denver doesn't even pretend to play any defense. :dramaquee

[ShoogarBear]

K-Mart got pwned on both ends back-to-back.

[DazedAndConfused]

This is perhaps the worst coached team in the NBA. You give any quality coach that roster and this team is a top 4 seed in the WC.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

lol props to the Suns!

Thanks for helping the Nuggets get closer to firing GK

[Scumbag]

It's alllliiiive!

[boutons_]

Suns 34 -19 in 4th. Nuggs folded in face of Suns assault.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

This is a layup drill just sad Denver plays zero D. :spin

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I dont get it how come the ref let Shaq get mugged and mugged and it looked like it shouldve been a call before his dunk but then he waited until he was "about" to dunk it then called the foul thus allowing the 3 point play. lol either way Denver fucking sucks talk about choke job, No D.
Suns got a good homecourt advantage. I wish our guys got the benefit of those calls. (Tim and Manu would be racking up and-1's all the time)

[Kriz-Maxima]

You were up 20, now losing by 9 and you give your opponent both wide open jump shots and wide open dunks.

[Amarelooms]

Suns 34 -19 in 4th. Nuggs folded in face of Suns assault.

Suns are nashty :elephant

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

This is a layup drill just sad Denver plays zero D. :spin
I know, they laid down and died it looks like. Lame.

[Scumbag]

I wish our guys got the benefit of those calls.

You are fucking kidding right?

[DazedAndConfused]

DEN should be banned from the NBA after this performance tonight. Dissolve the team and have a draft pool for the lotto teams to pick up the scraps. My God this is one of the worst breakdowns I've seen all year.

[crc21209]

lol this game was hilarious how the Suns allow themselves to get down 20 to Denver is hilarious, and then how Denver allows the Suns to get back in and take the lead and beat your ass is equally hilarious. I think Denver wins tomorrow at home, they seem to play better in front of their home crowd.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Lol @ The Motherfuckin Denver Nuggets!!

[MajorMike]

Nash should have; if you argue that he WAS the MVP the 2 years before (which I don't think he was) his numbers were better last year. Therefore he should have been the MVP if his numbers were better than his MVP years.

Unfortunately, just as there is great stigma in giving a freshman the Heisman, there is great stigma in giving 3-straight MVPs. Can you imagine Nash's name in the same breath with Chamberlain, Russell and Bird? Jordan, Moses, Kareem - never won 3 in a row. The only reason Barkley got the 93 MVP was so MJ wouldn't get 3 in a row, and Jordan got his 1st before he deserved it to break up Magic's run.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Denver is stupid. there is still plenty of time.

[Scumbag]

Mvp Mvp Mvp

[MajorMike]

need 10 more pts, plz

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

:lol Suns announcers

Amare is level-headed, stays within the game.

[Kriz-Maxima]

After being up by 20 they just might lose by 20.

[Scumbag]

Speaking of getting all the calls... Clean block yet again called a foul.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

You are fucking kidding right?
:lol

a little bit.

[Banzai]

I know, they laid down and died it looks like. Lame.
:lol :dizzy

[SpursFanFirst]

Thanks for nothing, Denver. :bang

[DazedAndConfused]

One of those homer Suns announcers seems to think Amare is a better PF than Duncan. Newsflash, Duncan also plays defense. Fucking idiot.

[crc21209]

How come Grant Hill isnt playing?

[Scumbag]

Nuggets will bitch slap the Sons just like I bitch slap Jay Mariotti every day.


:wakeup

[The Nba Is Rigged]

I seriously can't fuckin believe the nuggets. If the mavs ever pulled this shit I would be so fuckin pissed

[Scumbag]

One of those homer Suns announcers seems to think Amare is a better PF than Duncan. Newsflash, Duncan also plays defense. Fucking idiot.


Duncan is a center. :bang

[word]

Time for three's. Well okay, that time has passed but, what the hell. Jack one up mello..for old times sake.

[Scumbag]

I seriously can't fuckin believe the nuggets. If the mavs ever pulled this shit I would be so fuckin pissed


Did you miss the playoffs last year?

[san antonio spurs]

:lol Suns announcers

Amare is level-headed, stays within the game.
:lmao
But lately he's been keeping his cool. Even in that game against KG in PHX, he seemed like the mature one.
But overall, we know who he is. :lol

[Banzai]

Speaking of getting all the calls... Clean block yet again called a foul.
suns are winning..let the bad calls go.. :blah

[crc21209]

lol Denver sucks, but I think they win tomorrow on their home court.

[ShoogarBear]

:lol Suns announcers

Amare is level-headed, stays within the game.You heard that too? :lol

Stays within the game, just can't stay on the bench.

[T Park]

Duncan is a center. :bang


According to who?

[monosylab1k]

Duncan is a center. :bang
no he's not.

[Scumbag]

a T for THAT?

[T Park]

Another notch on the "Why Denver doesn't scare me in the playoffs"

Their mental toughness and execution down the stretch in tight games is pathetic.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Did you miss the playoffs last year?

We got our asses kicked but we barely blew 20 point leads, the only game we had a big lead vs the warriors was game 5 and we won that game

[T Park]

We got our asses kicked but we barely blew 20 point leads, the only game we had a big lead vs the warriors was game 5 and we won that game


Wich you blew, the Warriors took a significant lead, then blew that.

I remember that game like it was yesterday.

jason Richardson was making everything in sight in the second half.

[Scumbag]

We got our asses kicked but we barely blew 20 point leads, the only game we had a big lead vs the warriors was game 5 and we won that game


If you die from choking on chicken or steak does it really matter? :wtf

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Amare getting MVP chants is lame

if you need a washed up center to cover for your big man deficiencies, you don't deserve to be in MVP talks.

[ShoogarBear]

Really, :lol

Amare is MVP as long as he has somebody to get the ball to him, and somebody else to play defense and rebound for him.

[Scumbag]

Amare getting MVP chants is lame


You're right, his numbers the past 2 months mean nothing.

[crc21209]

Amare getting MVP chants is lame

if you need a washed up center to cover for your big man deficiencies, you don't deserve to be in MVP talks.


lol thats some funny shit.

[crc21209]

You're right, his numbers the past 2 months mean nothing.


2 months is not a whole season.

[Scumbag]

He is really playing like a washed up center isn't he?


It's ok to be worried about the Suns in the playoffs...

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

You're right, his numbers the past 2 months mean nothing.
he's a statwhore,

you can get a lot of stats and rack up losses,

without Nash feeding him half the time, and Shaq keeping double teams off him, he'd just be fouling out on offensive fouls and playing half the minutes he does every game because his path towards an easy dunk won't be so convenient anymore without those two.
He'd average 6.5 fouls a game as 'the man' .

[Kriz-Maxima]

2 months? Godamn, if you are gonna make an argument for him at least try to make it right.

[Allanon]

I toldja all Amare was a stats padder, he was in the game until the last second with the game already decided awhile ago.

He's a very good player but his numbers are padded.

[TampaDude]

Wow...the Suns put up 81 points in the second half...unfuckingreal...can you say "the Nuggets have no defense?" I knew you could... :lol

[lurker]

Amare deserves to be in the MVP conversation, but not to actually win it. You can't give it to him over CP and Kobe. Even Shaq thinks Kobe should win it.

[crc21209]

No ones gonna worry about the Suns they still suck on defense they let the Nuggets out of all teams build a 20 point lead on them, your just lucky Denver doesnt play any D either.

[Warlord23]

So the Nuggets scored 70 in the first half and gave up 81 in the second??

[DazedAndConfused]

Nuggs win the award for most bipolar team in the NBA.

[Kriz-Maxima]

So the Nuggets scored 70 in the first half and gave up 81 in the second??

Everybody knew entering this game that defense was a lost concept.

[Scumbag]

Amare deserves to be in the MVP conversation, but not to actually win it. You can't give it to him over CP and Kobe. Even Shaq thinks Kobe should win it.


I agree.


But not to even mention him just shows the homer glasses are strapped on extra tight.

[ShoogarBear]

How can Amare be in the MVP conversation when he wasn't even an afterthought before Shaq got there?

[crc21209]

Giving up 81 in the 2nd half, and 45 or 46 something like that in the 4th quarter, pathetic.

[Gino]

The Suns/Amare hate on this board is a joke. He has 41 and 14, the fourth straight game he has 30 and 10 and no one wants to give him a credit.

He's immensly talented. No, he doesn't deserve the MVP or even consideration considering he hasn't played this well all season, but there's no reason to bitch and scream and the Suns announcers for giving him his props.

Shaq also had 20 and 12. Those two are are VERY good together.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I toldja all Amare was a stats padder, he was in the game until the last second with the game already decided awhile ago.

He's a very good player but his numbers are padded.
He tried get 41 points. :lol missed the jumper with 50 seconds left

flopped on a Najera grab.

Suns Homers applauded his charity stripe gain.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I don't know what to make of these Suns.


Not sure if I wanna see them in the playoffs.

[Scumbag]

Shaq also had 20 and 12. Those two are are VERY good together.

Washed up
:rolleyes

[Gino]

Newsflash: EVERY teams announcers are homers. They are PAID BY THE TEAM. Im so sick of hearing how bad everyones announcers are.

[ShoogarBear]

If the Suns could only trade for Kobe, then Amare would have the MVP locked up.

[Gino]

I just read Shaq is 26-37 for ft's in his last 6 games. (70%).

WTF?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Newsflash: EVERY teams announcers are homers. They are PAID BY THE TEAM. Im so sick of hearing how bad everyones announcers are.


Not true


Memphis has some solid announcers as does Golden State.


So does NY, but I think some of the best surprisingly reside in LA (Lakers)

[lurker]

Shaq's been working on his free throw shooting, and it's paying off. He should've done that shit years ago. :lol

[Scumbag]

If the Suns could only trade for Kobe, then Amare would have the MVP locked up.


You are right he is terrible! Infact, our whole team is either bad at defense and/or washed up. See you in the playoffs.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

The Suns/Amare hate on this board is a joke. He has 41 and 14, the fourth straight game he has 30 and 10 and no one wants to give him a credit.

He's immensly talented. No, he doesn't deserve the MVP or even consideration considering he hasn't played this well all season, but there's no reason to bitch and scream and the Suns announcers for giving him his props.

Shaq also had 20 and 12. Those two are are VERY good together.
His talent is there; no question. His game is fun to watch when he throws it down,
but i remember in 2005, he had insane playoff numbers, but they ultimately were meaningless when the series was 4-1 in the end.

It's not Amare hate, it's just plain objectivity. Stats are nice when they're in route towards a team's success.

Gawdy stats en route towards individual accolades are nice for twelve year olds.

Fact is without Shaq, Amare's output was never enough to put the Suns over the top, since his lack of defense on the other end always negated whatever he made up for in 2 pointers.

An MVP's success should be the one influencing the other players of the team a la Duncan and Nash, not the other way around. Amare up to this point has been a one-to one and a half dimensional big man at best.

[Allanon]

Newsflash: EVERY teams announcers are homers. They are PAID BY THE TEAM. Im so sick of hearing how bad everyones announcers are.

Last night "The Lakers don't deserve to win tonight. " "Caron Butler just put a Dagger into the Lakers (or something like that)"

Stu Lantz on the Lakers broadcast is not a homer. Laker fans are complaining about his rooting for the other team. I don't mind at all though, he usually calls it like it is.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

You are right he is terrible! Infact, our whole team is either bad at defense and/or washed up. See you in the playoffs.


Not if NO/Utah or LAL knock you out first

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Newsflash: EVERY teams announcers are homers. They are PAID BY THE TEAM. Im so sick of hearing how bad everyones announcers are.

Not every teams announcers are, the good commentators are The warriors, the Lakers, the sonics, the suns and the mavs. The celtics commentators are the fuckin worst.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Not true


Memphis has some solid announcers as does Golden State.


So does NY, but I think some of the best surprisingly reside in LA (Lakers)
Clippers also have pretty good announcers.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Last night "The Lakers don't deserve to win tonight. " "Caron Butler just put a Dagger into the Lakers"

Stu Lantz on the Lakers broadcast is not a homer. Laker fans are complaining about his rooting for the other team. I don't mind at all though, he usually calls it like it is.


Yeah, I think LAL have the best announcers in the league.

[ShoogarBear]

I didn't say he was terrible. But to say he deserves consideration for MVP for stuff that happened only after they got Shaq is cosmically ignorant.

[Gino]

Not true


Memphis has some solid announcers as does Golden State.


So does NY, but I think some of the best surprisingly reside in LA (Lakers)


YOU might think so, but Laker fans were bitching like crazy when the Warriors beat the Lakers in L.A. last week and claimed that their (Golden State) announcers were acting like the Warriors just won the championship.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Clippers also have pretty good announcers.


I wouldn't doubt it, it's almost funny how the big market teams tend to have the least amount of homer announcers.

[Allanon]

Clippers also have pretty good announcers.

Agreed. They like their own players which is cool but no homerism there on calls and junk.

[Gino]

I didn't say he was terrible. But to say he deserves consideration for MVP for stuff that happened only after they got Shaq is cosmically ignorant.

Youre right that he doesn't deserve SERIOUS MVP consideration....

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I don't know what to make of these Suns.


Not sure if I wanna see them in the playoffs.
It's going to be won by coaching, and not necessarily personnel.

I think it'll be tough but doable.
The Suns rebounding has improved a lot. So that kinda sucks.

[Gino]

Agreed. They like their own players which is cool but no homerism there on calls and junk.

You got me there! The old guy who hold the mic is great!
:toast

[Scumbag]

An MVP's success should be the one influencing the other players of the team a la Duncan and Nash, not the other way around.

So Kobe should not win it? He is a shit teammate and only pads his own stats.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

YOU might think so, but Laker fans were bitching like crazy when the Warriors beat the Lakers in L.A. last week and claimed that their (Golden State) announcers were acting like the Warriors just won the championship.

I wouldn't doubt it was a big win for GS seeing as how they're fighting for a playoff spot.


However, PHX has the worst announcers in the league bar none.


I think Dan Majerle is the worst (though he wasn't calling the game tonight, thank god) in the entire league.


I'll also admit that Elliott is probably one of the top 5 worst homers in the league as well

[Xylus]

The Suns/Amare hate on this board is a joke. He has 41 and 14, the fourth straight game he has 30 and 10 and no one wants to give him a credit.

He's immensly talented. No, he doesn't deserve the MVP or even consideration considering he hasn't played this well all season, but there's no reason to bitch and scream and the Suns announcers for giving him his props.

Shaq also had 20 and 12. Those two are are VERY good together.
Thank you.

Amare played out of position for 4 years, and now he's finally playing his natural position and dominating every single defender. It's easy to pad your stats when no one can stop you.

Defensively, he's really not a huge liability anymore, unless he's facing guys like KG or Boozer, who at the same time can't guard Amare. He doesn't deserve to be MVP, or even in the Top 3, but he deserves consideration.

And yeah, the Suns/Amare hate on this board is equally as bad as the Ginobili hate on the Suns board, though no one here would ever admit it.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

So Kobe should not win it? He is a shit teammate and only pads his own stats.


When does he stat pad? If anything, I think Kobe gets his teammates involved this year more than ever. I really think at this stage of his career Kobe could give a shit about his stats and is probably vying for a championship, seeing as how this is his first season in a long time that he has a shot to do that.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

And yeah, the Suns/Amare hate on this board is equally as bad as the Ginobili hate on the Suns board, though no one here would ever admit it.


good point. :tu


However, while I despise the suns, most of their fans on here are pretty alright.

[ShoogarBear]

However, PHX has the worst announcers in the league bar none.

We've already been through this in another thread:

http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/BDD_lottery_5.23.07_gett.jpg


Although the Rocket announcers are awful, too.

[Gino]

I wouldn't doubt it was a big win for GS seeing as how they're fighting for a playoff spot.


However, PHX has the worst announcers in the league bar none.


I think Dan Majerle is the worst (though he wasn't calling the game tonight, thank god) in the entire league.


I'll also admit that Elliott is probably one of the top 5 worst homers in the league as well

Props to you for lack of homerism!
:toast

On that note, Ive been told the Celtics announcers are the worst MANY times! :lol

EDIT: SHOOGA BEAR BEAT ME TO IT!!!!!! :lol

[Scumbag]

Snail Blazers announcers are horrible.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

So Kobe should not win it? He is a shit teammate and only pads his own stats.
I'm biased against Kobe's MVP consideration, due to Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum. Kobe's a SG who forgets he might NOT be another exception to the Big Man rule, ala Bynum.
The only reason Kobe is the favorite because of the media pull.
Because when you look at how they reverted back to 2007-2006 form, a Kobe led team is always going to be dependent on a good-to elite franchise level big man. And they have that now in the combination of Bynum and Pau Gasol.

Kobe by next year could even realize how dependent he is on Bynum and how he'll forever be Robin to Shaq, and now Bynum's Batman.

I personally, think CP should win it over Kobe who's 53 points can't contribute to a win against a Memphis team.

Yesterday, Kobe almost lost the game to the wizards trying to be the hero and missing two forced shots.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Props to you for lack of homerism!
:toast

On that note, Ive been told the Celtics announcers are the worst MANY times! :lol

EDIT: SHOOGA BEAR BEAT ME TO IT!!!!!! :lol


:lol


that one SAS-BOS game


just.....ouch on behalf of Elliott

That has to make the end of year NBA blooper reel.

[Allanon]

I have to admit most of the Boston/Suns/Mav fans on this board are pretty cool and reasonable. That one Piston dude is cool too. I just can't stand the Spurs fans :D

[Scumbag]

Snail Blazers announcers are horrible.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=snLY1vk7SlA

"There's a guy named Oden waitin' on ya!" lol please

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I'm biased against Kobe's MVP consideration, due to Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum. Kobe's a SG who forgets he might NOT be another exception to the Big Man rule, ala Bynum.
Kobe by next year could even realize how dependent he is on Bynum and how he'll forever be Robin to Shaq, and now Bynum's Batman.


Interesting point, seeing as how badly LAL has been playing over the last few games. Yeah, they got the win against Washington, but it took them an OT on their home floor to pull it off. Also, the loss to Memphis must've stung.


I still think Kobe deserves it because he is playing at such a high level while playing with a system that requires virtually everyone on the court to touch the ball. Whereas Lebron is allowed to do whatever he wants with iso after iso, though his stats are awfully impressive this season.

However, if NO finishes with the #1 seed, I think Chris Paul will (obviously) get it.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

:lol


that one SAS-BOS game


just.....ouch on behalf of Elliott

That has to make the end of year NBA blooper reel.
Elliott's homerism, makes up for the Homerism we Spurs fans have to put up with...usually it's fun and good payback. But that Boston game was really bad. :lol

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Interesting point, seeing as how badly LAL has been playing over the last few games. Yeah, they got the win against Washington, but it took them an OT on their home floor to pull it off. Also, the loss to Memphis must've stung.


I still think Kobe deserves it because he is playing at such a high level while playing with a system that requires virtually everyone on the court to touch the ball. Whereas Lebron is allowed to do whatever he wants with iso after iso, though his stats are awfully impressive this season.

However, if NO finishes with the #1 seed, I think Chris Paul will (obviously) get it.
I think Kobe may have been more deserving last year, because he started to make attempts to play within the system. But their record was too low.
But this year his team's bench is really deep. With the addition of Fisher's leadership, and young players coming into their own, (Sasha, Farmar) I've seen Kobe benefiting from his team's play.
But I'm biased against Kobe winning it this year, after his tirade and calling out Bynum. He's due for an MVP anyway, so he'll have to win it sometime.

[Jeremy]

Well, the game was a blowout at halftime, and it ended up as a blowout. No surprises here. ;)

[SirChaz]

His talent is there; no question. His game is fun to watch when he throws it down,
but i remember in 2005, he had insane playoff numbers, but they ultimately were meaningless when the series was 4-1 in the end.


Any idea when you will be joining us in 2008?
:D

If I remember right the 1 was because Amare got a block on Timmy and an offensive rebound away from Ginobili at the end of the game. He was barly 19 when he got into the league. He is still improving and has shown a lot this season.


Gary Bender (Suns FSN-AZ play by play) is the worst.
Not that he is a homer, he is just senile or something. We have a drinking game where we take a drink when he makes a wrong call. Good way to get hammered by halftime.

[Xylus]

Gary Bender worse than Tom Leander? Are you kidding me??


On second thought, though...Gary Bender is really fucking bad. You might have a point. Dan Majerle is a minor homer, but at least he's a funny guy. Eddie Johnson is a fantastic color commentator.

[JackArse]

for the most part, the only announcer i really like is al mccoy, wish he still did the tv broadcast. i think most suns fans hate the others. majerle and ej are somewhat homerish, but they're color guys, that's pretty much their job. they're funny to listen to at times though, especially majerle.. most of the times you'd think he was drinking a beer while announcing. bender and leander are horrible though. or. as ej would say. just tirrble.. just tirrble.

[SirChaz]

Leander is annoying, Bender is just bad.

Majerle and EJ are hilarious. EJ is my favorite.

[slayermin]

Fukkin' Suns.

[Xylus]

Suns have won 10 of 12 :elephant

[mojorizen7]

Amare getting MVP chants is lame

if you need a washed up center to cover for your big man deficiencies, you don't deserve to be in MVP talks.
Amare isn't an MVP candidate. but..........thats an ignorant statement dude.
Stoudemire has been playing out of position for years. He's not stuck playing the 5 against other 5's every night anymore. Thus...he's been dominating since Shaq arrived. In the paint,from the perimeter, and from the FT line.
Needless to say,his D & rebounding are not yet MVP caliber.

I can only hope the SUNS get a shot at you guys again this year. The SPURS aren't the bad matchup anymore.

[Jeremy]

The Suns held Denver to six total rebounds in the entire second half.

Camby had 4 rebounds for the game.

[Xylus]

The Suns held Denver to six total rebounds in the entire second half.

Camby had 4 rebounds for the game.
:toast

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Amare isn't an MVP candidate. but..........thats an ignorant statement dude.
Stoudemire has been playing out of position for years. He's not stuck playing the 5 against other 5's every night anymore. Thus...he's been dominating since Shaq arrived. In the paint,from the perimeter, and from the FT line.
Needless to say,his D & rebounding are not yet MVP caliber.

I can only hope the SUNS get a shot at you guys again this year. The SPURS aren't the bad matchup anymore.
Stoudamire should dominate offensively, and get to the line a lot with Shaq. But if Stoudamire wants to compete with the KG's and TD's, then he can't really use that out of position card to excuse his defense altogether.

I don't know if either team outmatches the other, but if the Spurs meet the Suns in the playoffs it'll be a hell of a series.

[N4th4n]

Stoudamire should dominate offensively, and get to the line a lot with Shaq. But if Stoudamire wants to compete with the KG's and TD's, then he can't really use that out of position card to excuse his defense altogether.

I don't know if either team outmatches the other, but if the Spurs meet the Suns in the playoffs it'll be a hell of a series.

Notice how KG and TD almost ALWAYS play with a center. Now imagine them not doing that for the last 4 years. Idiot.

[slayermin]

^^^
I love that avatar. :lol

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Notice how KG and TD almost ALWAYS play with a center. Now imagine them not doing that for the last 4 years. Idiot.
TD's playing with the same center that Amare played with last year.

Can't believe you buy that excuse for Amare being a poor defender.
He hasn't developed like KG and TD because he isn't that smart!

Four years without a true center maybe an excuse for lack of defensive help as the "lone big", but not when you're not showing any signs of development with your own Defense. The dude's still racks up fouls rapidly, because he's so clueless on defense even with Shaq taking pressure off of him.

[mojorizen7]

Yeah the same center that got limited PT due to D'Antoni's fucking obsession with smallball.

[DazedAndConfused]

Fuck the Suns fans came out the woodwork tonight! You guys are like little bees, come buzzing around when you're winning but when the losses start piling on you are nowhere to be found. Shit we may even see the return of da_suns_fan........

[Xylus]

Fuck the Suns fans came out the woodwork tonight! You guys are like little bees, come buzzing around when you're winning but when the losses start piling on you are nowhere to be found. Shit we may even see the return of da_suns_fan........
The Suns have been winning consistently for the last three or four weeks. I think it's merely a coincidence that a lot of Suns fans showed up tonight.

[Shred]

Stoudamire should dominate offensively, and get to the line a lot with Shaq. But if Stoudamire wants to compete with the KG's and TD's, then he can't really use that out of position card to excuse his defense altogether.

I don't know if either team outmatches the other, but if the Spurs meet the Suns in the playoffs it'll be a hell of a series.

Newsflash: Amare had microfracture knee surgery. He'll never be the same player he was before. Player of the week is out of the question, let alone MVP.

Also, Suns have no interior presence, no rebounding, no D, and no ability to play a half-court game. That amounts to early playoff exit, just like the last 3 seasons.

[ElNono]

I can only hope the SUNS get a shot at you guys again this year. The SPURS aren't the bad matchup anymore.

Bring it on... we'll be happy to end your season again.

[Mikhail]

Nash is the clear-cut MVP of the Suns. Without his taking the team on his back and nailing 8 of 12 threes (8 of 12!?) this is a Nugget spanking. Kinda weird to see the crowd chanting MVP for Amare. It's premature. Next year maybe, but Nash is still boss. He said the following:

"It's great [the MVP chants for Stoudemire at US Airways Center]," said the Gordon Head-raised Nash, without a hint of envy or jealousy, and in the demeanour which has become his hallmark.

"I was excited to hear those MVP cheers for Amare. They are well deserved. It's a tribute to his team play, maturity and unselfishness. The fans are supporting Amare's progress."

Um, ok, but there's a limit to Canadian politeness. How do the Suns do without Nash? Not. Very. Well. In fact I'd venture they wouldn't even be in the playoff picture. Conversely, without Amare they wouldn't have a shot at the title. So it's sort of symbiotic. It's interesting to compare Marion's stats pre and post Nash. Pg % is remarkable.

[lefty]

Wow, Nuggets really suck

They can't keep a 22 pt lead over the Suns ?

The Suns ????

[boutons_]

So we see why Nuggs DESERVE 8th seed, or maybe 9th seed.

[N4th4n]

TD's playing with the same center that Amare played with last year.

Can't believe you buy that excuse for Amare being a poor defender.
He hasn't developed like KG and TD because he isn't that smart!

Four years without a true center maybe an excuse for lack of defensive help as the "lone big", but not when you're not showing any signs of development with your own Defense. The dude's still racks up fouls rapidly, because he's so clueless on defense even with Shaq taking pressure off of him.

Once again you are showing you ignorance. KT and Amare were rarely on the court at the same time, most of the time KT was used as a back up for Amare.