Obama Bashes Small Town America

[Nbadan]

.......new FAUX News attack point not working out so well...


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[Nbadan]

more small town bashing...


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[boutons_]

That was one of Maher's best ever, esp finishing with the Robertson law school bimbo not hiring a Robertson law school grad to defend her, but a real lawyer from a real law school. :lol

McCain and Hillary are both long-time "elite" Washington insiders, with 10s of $Ms net worth above Obama's. Obama is "elite"? GMAFB

I'd like Obama to end this bullshit elite attack with another speech like he had for the Wright attack.

And Hilllary is saying her attacks on Obama are giving ammo to the Repugs? WTF? WTF? Then Hillary should stop attacking Obama with bullshit, gotcha attacks.

Hillary is pro-Hillary and fuck the Dems and everbody else. Hillary is more pro-McCain, and helpful to McCain, than most of the Repugs.

I'm hearing things that she will only barely win PA, maybe even lose it, which will be another huge nail in her coffin, which already doesn't need any more nails. She'll arrive at the convention in a coffin, dead, dead, dead, with Obama probably seriously wounded by her lying bullshit.

[BonnerDynasty]

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Right wingers? I thought the right wingers WERE the elite? Bill is a pimp. The repugs are the rich white guys. Isn't that how it works?

I thought Hillary was the one calling Obama elite?

I thought it was the dems who like to put on shows to the non-elite out there that they are going after the elite?

They are in government. They get to rape the country and party all night. They are ALL the fucking elite lmao.

[George Gervin's Afro]

That was one of Maher's best ever, esp finishing with the Robertson law school bimbo not hiring a Robertson law school grad to defend her, but a real lawyer from a real law school. :lol

McCain and Hillary are both long-time "elite" Washington insiders, with 10s of $Ms net worth above Obama's. Obama is "elite"? GMAFB

I'd like Obama to end this bullshit elite attack with another speech like he had for the Wright attack.

And Hilllary is saying her attacks on Obama are giving ammo to the Repugs? WTF? WTF? Then Hillary should stop attacking Obama with bullshit, gotcha attacks.

Hillary is pro-Hillary and fuck the Dems and everbody else. Hillary is more pro-McCain, and helpful to McCain, than most of the Repugs.

I'm hearing things that she will only barely win PA, maybe even lose it, which will be another huge nail in her coffin, which already doesn't need any more nails. She'll arrive at the convention in a coffin, dead, dead, dead, with Obama probably seriously wounded by her lying bullshit.


Clinton = evil,

obama = good..

:rolleyes

[peewee's lovechild]

What's really funny is that all the Dems were sucking Bill Clinton's cock not so long ago. Everyone was saying that they wish Bill Clinton could've had a third term and all that jazz.

Now, Bill Clinton is persona non grata.
He's supposed to represent everything that's wrong.

Now, the "Clinton" name is indicative of something evil.
This shows just how fickle the Democrat Party is.

Whatever.

[possessed]

What's really funny is that all the Dems were sucking Bill Clinton's cock not so long ago. Everyone was saying that they wish Bill Clinton could've had a third term and all that jazz.

Now, Bill Clinton is persona non grata.
He's supposed to represent everything that's wrong.

Now, the "Clinton" name is indicative of something evil.
This shows just how fickle the Democrat Party is.

Whatever.
The liberal media found somebody they like better than the Clintons.

It happens.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

That was one of Maher's best ever, esp finishing with the Robertson law school bimbo not hiring a Robertson law school grad to defend her, but a real lawyer from a real law school. :lol

McCain and Hillary are both long-time "elite" Washington insiders, with 10s of $Ms net worth above Obama's. Obama is "elite"? GMAFB

I'd like Obama to end this bullshit elite attack with another speech like he had for the Wright attack.

And Hilllary is saying her attacks on Obama are giving ammo to the Repugs? WTF? WTF? Then Hillary should stop attacking Obama with bullshit, gotcha attacks.

Hillary is pro-Hillary and fuck the Dems and everbody else. Hillary is more pro-McCain, and helpful to McCain, than most of the Repugs.

I'm hearing things that she will only barely win PA, maybe even lose it, which will be another huge nail in her coffin, which already doesn't need any more nails. She'll arrive at the convention in a coffin, dead, dead, dead, with Obama probably seriously wounded by her lying bullshit.


You are such a lap dog. As much as you bash W. for being elite and big oil, Obama is right there with him, only with a fascist liberal slant. I guess you dig that perspective, but Obama's every bit the prick towards the common American as W.

[SPARKY]

Because the Clintons are your typical gun toting, bible thumping small town folks. With $100 mil in the bank or whatever. And a house in a pleasant wealthy NYC exurb.

Senator Obama may have made his point a little differently, but it's true nonetheless. Politicians trot out these hot button non-issues every election in order to prey on the citizenry's emotions and spur them to the voting booth.

I'm glad that what constitutes political discourse in this country is a bunch of millionaire senators pretending to worry about gun rights and churchgoing.

What a stupid fucking country.

[xrayzebra]

The liberal media found somebody they like better than the Clintons.

It happens.


Well evidently the media has found somebody they like
better than Osama, I mean Obama.........read the story
and you will know what I am talking about..... :lol

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For Obama and McCain, the Bitter and the Sweet

By Dana Milbank
Tuesday, April 15, 2008; A03

So much for the liberal media.

John McCain and Barack Obama both appeared before the nation's newspaper editors yesterday. The putative Republican presidential nominee was given a box of doughnuts and a standing ovation. The likely Democratic nominee was likened to a terrorist.

At a luncheon for the editors hosted by the Associated Press, AP Chairman Dean Singleton quizzed Obama about whether he would send more troops to Afghanistan, where "Obama bin Laden is still at large?"

"I think that was Osama bin Laden," the candidate answered.

"If I did that, I'm so sorry!" Singleton said.

"This," Obama told the editors, is "part of the exercise that I've been going through over the last 15 months."

Bitter, are we?

The past few days have left a bad taste in the mouth of the Democratic front-runner. In his worst gaffe of the campaign, he asserted (in San Francisco!) that Middle Americans have turned to God and guns and against immigrants because they are "bitter" about their economic lot.

That let Hillary Clinton and McCain portray Obama as a member of the effete elite, alongside John Kerry (Turnbull & Asser shirts) and John Edwards ($400 haircuts). Regular gal Clinton (Wellesley '69, Yale Law '73, family income $109 million since her husband left the White House) even made the point by tossing back a shot of Crown Royal at a bar in Indiana on Saturday night.

To shed the elitist label and regain his common-man credentials, Obama picked an inauspicious venue -- the annual gathering of the media elite, the American Society of Newspaper Editors. The result is likely to make the Democrat even more bitter. On the same day, the two media darlings of the presidential election cycle came to address their base -- and McCain easily bested his likely opponent.

McCain's moderators, the AP's Ron Fournier and Liz Sidoti, greeted McCain with a box of Dunkin' Donuts. "We spend quite a bit of time with you on the back of the Straight Talk Express asking you questions, and what we've decided to do today was invite everyone else along on the ride," Sidoti explained. "We even brought you your favorite treat."

McCain opened the offering. "Oh, yes, with sprinkles!" he said.

Sidoti passed him a cup. "A little coffee with a little cream and a little sugar," she said.

The dueling appearances by McCain and Obama nicely captured the current dynamic in the presidential cycle. McCain, his nomination secure, had the luxury to joke and pander. Obama, wounded by the Democrats' internecine fighting, was defensive and somber.

Singleton, Obama's moderator, pointed out that a new poll showed the Democrat had lost the 10-point lead over McCain that he had in February. "The fact that our contest is still going on means that John McCain comes in here, and he's feeling pretty good," Obama answered. "He can be a little more deliberate and pace himself. And that probably explains the close in the polls."

McCain was indeed in high spirits as he entered the ballroom and invited the editors' "questions, comments or insults." Reading from a teleprompter, McCain said he was among friends. "I made a decision to be as accessible to the press as the press would prefer me to be, and perhaps even more than they would prefer." Accepting the doughnuts, McCain had a gift for the editors, too -- his support for a law shielding reporters from identifying their sources.

This left everybody in a good mood for the criticism of Obama that McCain tacked on the end of his speech. Americans don't "turn to their religious faith and cultural traditions out of resentment," he said. The candidate then took a seat with the two AP reporters and crossed his legs casually for the questions. Asked about his advanced age, he pretended to nod off in his chair. "Watch me campaign," he challenged. "Come on the bus again, my friends, all of you."

McCain got a standing ovation -- an honor Obama did not receive when his turn came two hours later.

The room and crowd were larger for Obama. The atmosphere was colder (this time, editors had to pass through metal detectors) and more formal (wine on each table and flowers on the dais). And the candidate was uncharacteristically flat.

"I know that I've kept a lot of you guys busy this weekend with the comments I made last week. Some of you might even be a little bitter about that," he joked, before plodding his way through an earnest apology ("I regret some of the words I chose"), an angry countercharge ("If I had to carry the banner for eight years of George Bush's failures, I'd be looking for something else to talk about, too") and a recitation of his commoner bona fides ("My mother had to use food stamps at one point").

But the combination failed to change the subject. The first question: "Can a Democrat talk about guns, God and immigration without getting in trouble?"

"I actually think it's possible," said the candidate.

Recent experience, however, argues otherwise. And Obama couldn't hide his pique -- particularly when the moderator asked if Clinton should "step aside."

"I have tried to figure out how to show restraint," he said, to avoid harming the ultimate nominee. "Senator Clinton may not feel that she can afford to be as constrained. But I'm sure that Senator Clinton feels like she's doing me a great favor, because she's been deploying most of the arguments that the Republican Party will be using against me in November."

Not that he's bitter about it.

[Nbadan]

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[peewee's lovechild]

Because the Clintons are your typical gun toting, bible thumping small town folks. With $100 mil in the bank or whatever. And a house in a pleasant wealthy NYC exurb.

Senator Obama may have made his point a little differently, but it's true nonetheless. Politicians trot out these hot button non-issues every election in order to prey on the citizenry's emotions and spur them to the voting booth.



Just how much does Sentor Obama make a year?

I don't think he makes as much as the Clintons, but I don't think he's middle class either.

[clambake]

this is what I like about obama.

he's not bothered by small minded america.

sorry rays of the country, your thoughts are meaningless.

[Yonivore]

this is what I like about obama.

he's not bothered by small minded america.

sorry rays of the country, your thoughts are meaningless.
Except in November.

[clambake]

Except in November.
my point exactly. who would want to lead the hicks of middle america?

[Yonivore]

my point exactly. who would want to lead the hicks of middle america?
That wasn't your point and Pennsylvania isn't exactly "middle America" but, the second half of your sentence is of part with Obama's.

Nice.

[clambake]

That wasn't your point and Pennsylvania isn't exactly "middle America" but, the second half of your sentence is of part with Obama's.

Nice.
it was my point.

you don't see him backtracking to comfort the banjo pickers of america.

hey, if america wants to remain stupid, then find a way to keep the idiot we have now.

[xrayzebra]

it was my point.

you don't see him backtracking to comfort the banjo pickers of america.

hey, if america wants to remain stupid, then find a way to keep the idiot we have now.


I just know it must tickle you pink (or should I say red)
to be in the same flock as boutons, clam. Birds of a
feather flock together. dimm-o-craps, you gotta love
their choice of candidates or be called a redneck
banjo picker.

[clambake]

I just know it must tickle you pink (or should I say red)
to be in the same flock as boutons, clam. Birds of a
feather flock together. dimm-o-craps, you gotta love
their choice of candidates or be called a redneck
banjo picker.
save your strength. when it's all over you're going to have some explaining to do.

[Don Quixote]

my point exactly. who would want to lead the hicks of middle america?

Well, I knew that's what libs think of us, but I'm glad for the reminder.

Thanks.

[clambake]

strategerically speaking, it doesn't hurt obama to alienate bitter gun-toting, fetus-kissing knee-scraping small town folk.

(pssst *because they're REPUBLICANS* and wouldn't ever vote for him anyway :lol)
:lol yeah...that........and i think it's a little more black and white.

why would anyone vote for the most obvious intelligent candidate?

[boutons_]

Obama now polls nationally 11 points above Hillary.

Obama getting more donations from bitter small, PA towns than Hillary.

Hillary, just fucking go away. Obama's "bitter" won't give you the nomination.

[ChumpDumper]

Small towns need some bashing.

[smeagol]

fetus-kissing

What does that mean?

[peewee's lovechild]

What does that mean?

That someone would kiss a fetus.

[xrayzebra]

:lol yeah...that........and i think it's a little more black and white.

why would anyone vote for the most obvious intelligent candidate?

I am going to vote for the most obvious intelligent candidate
of the three. McCain.

[clambake]

I am going to vote for the most obvious intelligent candidate
of the three. McCain.
prehistoric man has chosen.

[JoeChalupa]

I can understand how some people feel. I'm from a small town but I'm not so naive to fall for all the bashing. Damn, McCain and Hillary have both made mis-spoken and they ALL probably do it again.

I praise McCain for saying that he does NOT believe Obama is an elitist although his comments may come across that way to some.

BARACK ON!!!

Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!1

[DarkReign]

As if no one here has ever made a hic joke, or laughed at "you might be a redneck".....well, the Foxworthy schtick isnt funny, but you get the point.

Dont get me wrong, its really, REALLY stupid for a Presidential Candidate to vocalize something like that.

But is he wrong? I dont think so. Explain why religion is most popular (ie top priority) in countries where the literacy rates are lowest?

But who cares. Some governor/senator/congressman will be caught in a backseat with a transvestite soon enough, and we'll never remember this.

[peewee's lovechild]

As if no one here has ever made a hic joke, or laughed at "you might be a redneck".....well, the Foxworthy schtick isnt funny, but you get the point.

Dont get me wrong, its really, REALLY stupid for a Presidential Candidate to vocalize something like that.

But is he wrong? I dont think so. Explain why religion is most popular (ie top priority) in countries where the literacy rates are lowest?




I feel the same way.

It's no big deal, at all.

But, it was really stupid to say that during a Presidential race.

[boutons_]

I think Hussein needs to make a shut-down, knock-out speech about the bitter crap like he did about the Wright crap.

The name of the game is Iraq and Afghanistan, the economy, and health care, not bitter, small-town PA.

[Ignignokt]

As if no one here has ever made a hic joke, or laughed at "you might be a redneck".....well, the Foxworthy schtick isnt funny, but you get the point.

Dont get me wrong, its really, REALLY stupid for a Presidential Candidate to vocalize something like that.

But is he wrong? I dont think so. Explain why religion is most popular (ie top priority) in countries where the literacy rates are lowest?

But who cares. Some governor/senator/congressman will be caught in a backseat with a transvestite soon enough, and we'll never remember this.


you mean like russia dickhole, who was atheist and sucked balls.

isaac newton was a man of faith.

you're such a condescending ass towards people of faith.

what obama said was idiotic, and does show he's an elitist.

And since elitist are the ones who run the country, how can obama be for change.

change of what? skin color. bwah hah ha!!

He has the same hillary platform.

[JoeChalupa]

:sleep

[JoeChalupa]

Big deal. Everyone turns towards religion when they feel the need. More often than not they turn to God when they need to like during bad times due to an accident or disaster. Is that a lie? No, it is not.
I know when I lost a job I immersed myself in other things like running and yeah, I prayed more too.
I wish people would stop wearing their religions on their sleeves.

[xrayzebra]

Big deal. Everyone turns towards religion when they feel the need. More often than not they turn to God when they need to like during bad times due to an accident or disaster. Is that a lie? No, it is not.
I know when I lost a job I immersed myself in other things like running and yeah, I prayed more too.
I wish people would stop wearing their religions on their sleeves.

I wonder why Obama needed to embrace the Rev. Wright
and his GD America philosophy. Did he have a need to
hate his other half. We know he doesn't think too much
of his Grandmother and the hayseed hicks in small towns.
Oh, I forgot he is the one who was on food stamps and
went to Ivy league schools and married into a rich
family. Who's wife is now proud of mean old America.

Joe, give me a break. This guy Obama is phony as a
three dollar bill. He really is a black Clinton. He
wouldn't know the truth if he was hit in the face with
it. And he doesn't want us to know the truth that he
is nothing but a Socialist with visions of grandeur.

[peewee's lovechild]

isaac newton was a man of faith.

you're such a condescending ass towards people of faith.



You do realize that most of the greatest scientific minds of today are atheists, don't you?

As for what Obama said, and this is coming from someone who is not supporting him, let it go.

What he said is being blown out of proportion.
If you want to criticize him for what he has said, there's plenty out there that is completely relevant.

[peewee's lovechild]

Oh, yea . . . let me give you one of Einstien's quotes:

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly."

[ClingingMars]

fuck him, I believe in God and 2nd amendment rights. I must be a 'bitter' American.

- Mars

[ClingingMars]

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And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

[Ignignokt]

uh

yeah

read his entire comments


he was saying that people vote based on social values instead of (more relevant,f rom his point of view) economic values because no matter who they vote for, they get screwed economically

chode

ANd it was condescending becuase there are lots of people who vote on social issues becuase they could careless about the govt interfering in economic matters.

i thought you were a ron paulbot, aren't you supposed to be against govt intervention in the free markets anyway?

anyway, what he's saying is that social issues are second to economic issues. and he's implying that when people vote for pro life measure and anti gay marriage proposals, they're not voting because that's a conviction.

they're voting on those issues becuase they're cynical of govt solving their economic situation, and here's good ol'e Obama, he's the saviour for all our woes, when his platform is like hillary's down to the "t".

[Ignignokt]

Those blacks, they get bitter because govt can't solve their economic situation, that's why they vote for candidates who play the sax on arsenio hall, appear on oprah, and cling to their black history month, and racial qoutas.


yeah, i wonder how that would go if bush would have said that.

[boutons_]

Obama speaks the truth, admittedly awkwardly, and gets trashed.

However, a lot of people are backing off and many people are saying they agree with the bitterness statement.

So, right-wing nut-mob, GFY. Obama is trucking right along and will get the nomination.

[DarkReign]

Obama, like Reagan, is very good at saying things that piss off people who weren't going to vote for them anyway


RACK

[DarkReign]

you mean like russia dickhole, who was atheist and sucked balls.

isaac newton was a man of faith.

you're such a condescending ass towards people of faith.

Yes, I am. Anyone who believes in some invisibile man in the sky who holds sway over your "soul" in the afterlife, doesnt really deserve my respect up front. That shit has to be earned by religious morons who only believe the hype because mommy and daddy taught them to. Not that they care if I respect them or not, but its my way.

Just because millions (billions?) of people believe in bullshit, doesnt make the bullshit any less....you know, bullshit.


what obama said was idiotic, and does show he's an elitist.

And since elitist are the ones who run the country, how can obama be for change.

change of what? skin color. bwah hah ha!!

He has the same hillary platform.

See Jon Stewart episode about what "Elite" actually means. If you arent elite, wtf are you doing running for president?

[Mr. Peabody]

See Jon Stewart episode about what "Elite" actually means. If you arent elite, wtf are you doing running for president?

Bill Maher had a good take on the "elite" issue last night....

yHU0UFSKneg

[ClingingMars]

uh

yeah

read his entire comments


he was saying that people vote based on social values instead of (more relevant,f rom his point of view) economic values because no matter who they vote for, they get screwed economically

chode

Exactly. Forgive me that I consider the life of a unborn child more valuable than my economic prosperity.

- Mars

[ClingingMars]

Obama, like Reagan, is very good at saying things that piss off people who weren't going to vote for them anyway

except Reagan had ideas that actually worked.

- Mars

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

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[some_user86]

Exactly. Forgive me that I consider the life of a unborn child more valuable than my economic prosperity.

- Mars

Way to hijack the thread. I'll continue your path and divert this thread, because I don't mind hijacking threads either.

Note: What I say next in no way represents anyone's or any group's opinion other than my own. If it offends you, too bad. It's my opinion.

The life of the cow you eat is worth more than that unborn child (<25 weeks) you care so much about. At least the cow can think and breath on its own. An unborn child has no life until it finishes it's neural pathways. After which point, it is probably viable and maybe wrong. Maybe.

[some_user86]

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Dude, is that Taylor Rain in your sig? It's hard to tell because that video is so small. Her face looks it, but Taylor is flat. Unless she got a boob job.

[DarkReign]

Exactly. Forgive me that I consider the life of a unborn child more valuable than my economic prosperity.

- Mars


Well, at least we know where you stand. Youre no better than the ignorant morons roaming the sands of the desert in the Middle East.

Religious zealots for the loss.