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04-14-2008, 10:49 AM
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In First Place, Lakers Look Second To None In West

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LOS ANGELES -- It's foolish to draw any conclusions in the Western Conference, in which the playoff picture changes in the time it takes to click the refresh button on your browser. But as the regular season draws to a close, the Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=lal) are starting to match results to their ability, which would make them the team to beat. They're starting to think in those terms, too.

"We've put ourselves in position to firmly believe," Lakers guard Derek Fisher (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3125) said.

They also put themselves atop the Western Conference with a 106-85 victory over the San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=sas) at Staples Center Sunday.

The strange thing was how unplayoff-like it felt at the end, with Kobe Bryant (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3118) sitting out the entire fourth quarter and Tim Duncan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3173) heading to the bench for good with 6:40 remaining. But the lack of suspense at the end came about because the Lakers dominated the third quarter, playing some postseason-caliber defense, holding the Spurs to 14 points on 3-for-17 shooting. Defense has been the biggest question mark for the Lakers. They've been burned by quick point guards (Tony Parker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3527) was at it again in the first half, when he scored 18 points). They have failed to rotate out to 3-point shooters. They haven't had a full-time presence in the middle since Andrew Bynum (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3936) went down in January.

Things changed in the third quarter Sunday. The Lakers stayed in front of Parker, who scored only two more points. Pau Gasol (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3513) blocked a Duncan hook shot, one of 13 misses by Duncan.

"I think we've found our defensive identity," Bryant said. "We're very aggressive. We have a tremendous amount of versatility in wings and bigs who are athletic and long. We can get after guys."

Lamar Odom (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3327) continues to do work on the defensive boards. He grabbed 12 of them Sunday, his third consecutive game with double figures in that category. Ronny Turiaf (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3963) provided the usual boost of energy off the bench. And Fisher's torn tendon in his foot is feeling well enough that he went to Jackson and requested more playing time last week.

The Lakers had some doubts about their playoff readiness as recently as coach Phil Jackson's pregame media session Sunday, when he lamented, "We're playing minutes well, we're not playing large segments of games well."

The second half of a nationally televised game against the defending champions should count as a large enough segment. Afterward, Jackson called it a complete victory, with Vladimir Radmanovic (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3522) the only member of the Lakers' top nine players who didn't make a significant contribution.

Fisher made an interesting comparison to the Lakers' three-peat teams of the start of the decade. They were built around Shaquille O'Neal (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=847), with Bryant able to play off him, and veterans around to plug in the gaps.

Now, "We're built to play as a team and not rely on individual talents of other guys," Fisher said. "Hopefully that can carry us a long way." Bryant has been more than happy to involve everyone and not carry the load himself. As a result he'll be fresher for the playoffs, when superstars have to make the difference.

Bryant had 20 points, five rebounds and five assists in 32 minutes Sunday, and was already icing his knees as the final minutes elapsed.

Instead of engaging in hand-to-hand combat with Bruce Bowen (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3167) and then contending with Duncan at the rim, Bryant whipped passes to Fisher or dumped it inside to Gasol. Occasionally Bryant pulled up for a jumper of his own. And he capped the third quarter by gathering a lead pass from Gasol, collecting himself just behind the 3-point arc and dropping a shot through the net with 0.1 seconds left.

"Estamos aqui," he said to Gasol back on the bench ("We're here"), as Bryant gestured to their eyes.

The Spurs could have used some more Spanish in their lineup. Their star from Argentina, Manu Ginobili (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3380), sat out with what the team called a strained left abductor. In addition, Brent Barry (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3017) and Robert Horry (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=830) missed the game with injuries.

"I'm really concerned about Robert," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said. "I don't know when we're going to get him back at all. The knee is really bothering him.

"And Brent has been gone forever. I'm hoping I can get him some minutes either tomorrow night or the Utah game."

It's possible the Spurs could go into the playoffs banged-up and without home-court advantage. They have enough experience to win on the road, but would they wear down from the extra travel?

And can they beat anybody in the competitive West if they don't address the offensive problems and defensive lapses they showed Sunday?

"Sometimes we get in ruts when we're not moving the ball," Bowen said. "Third quarter, it was evident today.

"We didn't do a good job on [defensive] transitions today and it's evident in a lot of 3-point shots they got in transitions or the lay-ups in transitions. Those are our areas that you can correct, fortunately. This was a game that we wanted to compete better than we did today."

They can get Ginobili back; they can get their championship ways back. The thing is, this isn't the time to go on a search-and-rescue mission. You want to have everyone and everything accounted for, peaking for the postseason. Like the Lakers.

At the end of March the Lakers lost back-to-back home games to Charlotte and Memphis. Since then they've won seven of eight, including victories over playoff-bound Washington, Dallas, New Orleans and now the Spurs.

"Going into the playoffs it's about momentum," Bryant said. "It's about who's playing well. We sure are playing good basketball right now."

[i]J.A. Adande is the author of "The Best Los Angeles Sports Arguments." He joined ESPN.com as an NBA columnist in August 2007 after 10 years with the Los Angeles Times. Click here (http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/mailbagESPN?event_id=16861) to e-mail J.A.

DarrinS
04-14-2008, 10:51 AM
New England patriots looked second to none, too.

sribb43
04-14-2008, 10:54 AM
who wrote the article? Oh lets see its J.A. Adande who spent years covering the Lakers for the LA Times....cant get more homer than that

Lakers are still good though, not hatin on Lakers, just hatin on ESPN for choosing Adande for the article

Findog
04-14-2008, 10:56 AM
I can't hate, the Lakers look pretty fucking stout these days.

JamStone
04-14-2008, 10:58 AM
New England patriots looked second to none, too.

I'm sure the Lakers and Laker fans will take getting to the NBA Finals and losing over not getting to the NBA Finals at all.

stretch
04-14-2008, 11:00 AM
they dont impress me that much. they play no defense and have too many low IQ players to be successful in the playoffs.

JamStone
04-14-2008, 11:04 AM
They have too many low IQ players? I think the Lakers as a whole are among the smarter group of players in the league. Odom makes bone-headed plays sometimes. And, Sasha takes some ill-advised shots at times. Other than that, I find the Lakers to play pretty smart basketball as a team.

Findog
04-14-2008, 11:07 AM
They have too many low IQ players? I think the Lakers as a whole are among the smarter group of players in the league. Odom makes bone-headed plays sometimes. And, Sasha takes some ill-advised shots at times. Other than that, I find the Lakers to play pretty smart basketball as a team.

They're a well-coached team. It's the Mavericks that are basketball retards.

JamStone
04-14-2008, 11:09 AM
Yeah, that's a big part of it, which is why I don't understand someone criticizing their low IQ players not being enough to be successful in the playoffs. That's what the smart players on the team and the coaching staff are there for, to lead the team in the playoffs.

Tradition
04-14-2008, 11:15 AM
they dont impress me that much. they play no defense and have too many low IQ players to be successful in the playoffs.

Ummm you just literally described the Allas Mavericks.

BonnerDynasty
04-14-2008, 11:31 AM
Lakers don't really scare me without Bynum. I prefer them 2000000x over PHX.

stretch
04-14-2008, 11:32 AM
Ummm you just literally described the Allas Mavericks.
No I described the Los Angeles Lakers.

Mavericks actually play defense.

peskypesky
04-14-2008, 11:35 AM
I can't hate, the Lakers look pretty fucking stout these days.

Yep. As much as it pains me to say it, the Gasol trade was just as beneficial as I predicted it would be. Lakers are looking GOOD, and that's WITHOUT Bynum. A scary thought.

stretch
04-14-2008, 11:39 AM
They have too many low IQ players? I think the Lakers as a whole are among the smarter group of players in the league. Odom makes bone-headed plays sometimes. And, Sasha takes some ill-advised shots at times. Other than that, I find the Lakers to play pretty smart basketball as a team.
I disagree. Although perhaps I should have said they have a weak minded team (except for Kobe). I think that fits them more. Kobe still has a problem with bad shot selection when things get tough for the team. Fisher has been playing like a fucking retard. Sasha plays hard but is retarded. Walton isn't dumb, but chooses to play like a retard. Get physical with Pau and he wilts. Odom is a load of talent that completely lacks consistency and heart. Can't shoot freethrows for shit either. Once Farmar hits a 3, he gets fucking 3-point crazy and just jacks them any time he sees the slightest amount of daylight. And no one plays good defense except Kobe. Their defense was extremely reliant on Bynum, and I personally doubt he's coming back, despite all the Laker hopefulls who keep saying "oh trainers said he will be back in 2 games! WATCH OUT!!!" and then he never fucking comes. Even if he does, he won't have much effect at all because if there have been this many delays, then chances are, he is much more fucked up than reports were saying.

Tradition
04-14-2008, 11:43 AM
No I described the Los Angeles Lakers.

Mavericks actually play defense.

Tell that to the Lakers who can easily score at will against them. Odom, Gasol, Kobe get to the hoop with such ease. Plus Josh Howard and Jason Terry arent exactly smart players. Mavs are an okay defensive team at best but if you attack it the right way, they go from okay to downright shitty.

Tradition
04-14-2008, 11:49 AM
I disagree. Although perhaps I should have said they have a weak minded team (except for Kobe). I think that fits them more. Kobe still has a problem with bad shot selection when things get tough for the team. Fisher has been playing like a fucking retard. Sasha plays hard but is retarded. Walton isn't dumb, but chooses to play like a retard. Get physical with Pau and he wilts. Odom is a load of talent that completely lacks consistency and heart. Can't shoot freethrows for shit either. Once Farmar hits a 3, he gets fucking 3-point crazy and just jacks them any time he sees the slightest amount of daylight. And no one plays good defense except Kobe. Their defense was extremely reliant on Bynum, and I personally doubt he's coming back, despite all the Laker hopefulls who keep saying "oh trainers said he will be back in 2 games! WATCH OUT!!!" and then he never fucking comes. Even if he does, he won't have much effect at all because if there have been this many delays, then chances are, he is much more fucked up than reports were saying.


:lmao :lmao :lmao at a mavericks fan talking about weak minded players.

LakeShow
04-14-2008, 11:50 AM
:lmao :lmao :lmao at a mavericks fan talking about weak minded players.
+1

O-Factor
04-14-2008, 12:14 PM
I'll take the Suns over the Lakers in a 7 game series........and I hate the suns

Xylus
04-14-2008, 12:18 PM
JA Adande is the biggest Laker homer on ESPN. Every other article he writes is about them. The Lakers are a great team now, but without Bynum they won't go very far in the playoffs. Their interior D is weak right now, so guys like Duncan and Amare should have a field day against the likes of Pau Gasol.

Besides, I'm not too impressed with a win over the Spurs sans Ginobili.

LakeShow
04-14-2008, 12:34 PM
The Lakers have shown that they can beat any of the top playoff teams without Bynum. I would welcome a matchup with any team and feel confident against any coming out of the west (unless Horry makes it back for the Spurs) that the lakers would win.

I think we are seeing the wear down of the WC teams due to intense competition over the last month or 2 of the season. The lakers depth has kept them relatively fresh and they appear to be the freshest team out there right now.

stretch
04-14-2008, 12:37 PM
Tell that to the Lakers who can easily score at will against them. Odom, Gasol, Kobe get to the hoop with such ease. Plus Josh Howard and Jason Terry arent exactly smart players. Mavs are an okay defensive team at best but if you attack it the right way, they go from okay to downright shitty.
Phoenix has scored at will against everyone for the past 4 years. Hasn't won shit for them.

stretch
04-14-2008, 12:37 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao at a mavericks fan talking about weak minded players.
why do you keep bringing up the Mavericks? they have absolutely nothing to do with the conversation. you are a downright shitty debater.

stretch
04-14-2008, 12:37 PM
+1
Hi Rockets fan.

Xylus
04-14-2008, 12:39 PM
Phoenix has scored at will against everyone for the past 4 years. Hasn't won shit for them.
This is actually a very good point. Amare dumped 38 points against the Spurs every night back in the '05 playoffs, but they couldn't get past that round because their defense wasn't nearly on par with San Antonio's.

stretch
04-14-2008, 12:47 PM
This is actually a very good point. Amare dumped 38 points against the Spurs every night back in the '05 playoffs, but they couldn't get past that round because their defense wasn't nearly on par with San Antonio's.
I wasn't trying to shit on the suns or anything, but its true. They have been an offensive monster, but their defense has never been consistent enough to win what matters most, and that's a title. The Lakers defense is not impressive at all and will be a problem, because they fall in love with the jumpshot WAY too easily. everyone on that team... if you give them a few feet of space, they will ALWAYS kill their dribble and take the jumpshot, and that is a big key to beating them IMO.

monosylab1k
04-14-2008, 12:59 PM
I wasn't trying to shit on the suns or anything, but its true. They have been an offensive monster, but their defense has never been consistent enough to win what matters most, and that's a title. The Lakers defense is not impressive at all and will be a problem, because they fall in love with the jumpshot WAY too easily. everyone on that team... if you give them a few feet of space, they will ALWAYS kill their dribble and take the jumpshot, and that is a big key to beating them IMO.
I stand by it - if the Mavericks weren't being coached by a moron who puts them in the worst possible position defensively, the Mavs would beat the Lakers in 5.

JamStone
04-14-2008, 01:05 PM
I wasn't trying to shit on the suns or anything, but its true. They have been an offensive monster, but their defense has never been consistent enough to win what matters most, and that's a title. The Lakers defense is not impressive at all and will be a problem, because they fall in love with the jumpshot WAY too easily. everyone on that team... if you give them a few feet of space, they will ALWAYS kill their dribble and take the jumpshot, and that is a big key to beating them IMO.

Unless their jumpers are falling. And, Fisher, Farmar, Vujacic, and Radmanovic are collectively shooting over 40% from three point range.

Defensively, the Lakers do have some holes especially without Bynum there to clean up some of the mistakes. But, they do have decent perimeter defenders, just not the enforcer in the paint. That's why the Lakers push the ball up a little more to pick up the pace of the game, to make it a little more of a transition game. Against patient and solid defensive teams, the Lakers are vulnerable. But, that alone doesn't mean they will fail in the playoffs.

While allowing the Lakers to shoot a lot of jumpers might help a team beat them if their jumpers are not falling, if they are falling, it can also possibly initiate a blowout in the Lakers favor.

Allanon
04-14-2008, 01:06 PM
I disagree. Although perhaps I should have said they have a weak minded team (except for Kobe).

If I'm not mistaken, the Mavs brought in JKidd specifically because they wanted to bring some mental toughness to a mentally weak team.

The Mavs are a talented bunch but they've always lacked the mental toughness to close out games. Just look at the last couple of Mav games, they were right there and self-combusted at the end (ala JHo throwing his headband). Or maybe doubling on Kobe and leaving Pau open in the paint might work better?

The Mavs have lost 3 straight to the Lakers now, I don't see that changing. Avery is no match for Phil. Mavs still have no answer or defender for Kobe.

62-61 should be enough to tell you how a Laker/Mav series will go.

Tradition
04-14-2008, 02:36 PM
why do you keep bringing up the Mavericks? they have absolutely nothing to do with the conversation. you are a downright shitty debater.

Becuase you bring up how we have all these "low-iq" players yet the Mavs are full of them. I found that comment quite hysterical. You are a downright jealous hater. :toast

Tradition
04-14-2008, 02:45 PM
I stand by it - if the Mavericks weren't being coached by a moron who puts them in the worst possible position defensively, the Mavs would beat the Lakers in 5.


Avery is only part of your teams problems. Josh Howard is a 3 quarter player then goes MIA in the 4th. The best contributing he does in the 4th is throw his headband around and loses his composure. Mavs have no inside game and defensivley they have pure shit on the perimeter. I dont care who coaches that team, they dont have 1 defender who can stay with the likes Kobe meaning they will have to throw doubles at him and pray guys like Fisher,Sasha miss uncontested WIDE paris hilton vagina open 3 pointers. You will either let Kobe beat you with his scoring at will with no problems getting layups/dunks/freethrows (which he has proven several times) or you let him beat you with getting everyone else involved. Basically it is pick your poison.

Cry Havoc
04-14-2008, 02:58 PM
I'm pretty sure that even the Nuggets would be able to play excellent defense if they were allowed to goaltend whenever they feel like it.

stretch
04-14-2008, 03:17 PM
:lol @ lakers fans getting defensive and bringing up the mavs shortcomings to defend their team when the Mavericks were not a part of the discussion to begin with...


If I'm not mistaken, the Mavs brought in JKidd specifically because they wanted to bring some mental toughness to a mentally weak team.

The Mavs are a talented bunch but they've always lacked the mental toughness to close out games. Just look at the last couple of Mav games, they were right there and self-combusted at the end (ala JHo throwing his headband). Or maybe doubling on Kobe and leaving Pau open in the paint might work better?

The Mavs have lost 3 straight to the Lakers now, I don't see that changing. Avery is no match for Phil. Mavs still have no answer or defender for Kobe.

62-61 should be enough to tell you how a Laker/Mav series will go.

and then...


Becuase you bring up how we have all these "low-iq" players yet the Mavs are full of them. I found that comment quite hysterical. You are a downright jealous hater. :toast

TheMACHINE
04-14-2008, 03:28 PM
Speaking of LOW IQ's, you think Josh Howard will ever call timeout again in his NBA career?

stretch
04-14-2008, 04:11 PM
Speaking of LOW IQ's, you think Josh Howard will ever call timeout again in his NBA career?
Speaking of LOW IQ's, you think Kobe should ever allow Sasha Vujacic (The MACHINE) to ever try to make a play on his own again as every time he does he looks about as incompetent as Mark Madsen?

Killakobe81
04-14-2008, 04:24 PM
LOL MAVS talking trash ..when did you guys win a title exactly?

stretch
04-14-2008, 04:28 PM
LOL MAVS talking trash ..when did you guys win a title exactly?
lol, ring smack talk

Killakobe81
04-14-2008, 04:35 PM
Just saying ..wasnt bring up past rings
MY point is only Spurs (since Heat arent in it) have won this decade besides us ...no one else has proven they can win when the pressure is on ESPECIALLY YOUR MAVS ....And since Spurs are defending champs they can talk MAVS should win something first ...WC banners don't count at least not after winning the title.

JamStone
04-14-2008, 05:11 PM
Just saying ..wasnt bring up past rings
MY point is only Spurs (since Heat arent in it) have won this decade besides us ...no one else has proven they can win when the pressure is on ESPECIALLY YOUR MAVS ....And since Spurs are defending champs they can talk MAVS should win something first ...WC banners don't count at least not after winning the title.

Forgetting someone?

TheMACHINE
04-14-2008, 05:35 PM
Speaking of LOW IQ's, you think Kobe should ever allow Sasha Vujacic (The MACHINE) to ever try to make a play on his own again as every time he does he looks about as incompetent as Mark Madsen?

umm ok..you fail.

TheMACHINE
04-14-2008, 05:36 PM
Forgetting someone?

us Lakers fans already erased that year from our memory.

LakeShow
04-14-2008, 07:10 PM
us Lakers fans already erased that year from our memory.:lmao:lmao

Tradition
04-14-2008, 07:19 PM
:lol @ lakers fans getting defensive and bringing up the mavs shortcomings to defend their team when the Mavericks were not a part of the discussion to begin with...



and then...

Looks like I totally misread you. I thought you were just hating so I felt the need to defend my team. I have nothing against you or you being a Mavs fan. My bad.

ElNono
04-14-2008, 07:22 PM
I'm still not sold on these Lakers... The excellence as always comes from Kobe and Phil, but the rest have yet to have a solid postseason, including Gasol.
Are they a better team than last year? Sure. But there are still a lot of questions marks out there, like interior defense.
At least if they have an early exit, they'll use the same excuse they've been using pretty much all year: Bynum and Ariza injuries...

We have one too: it's an even year...

I wonder what Suns's fans excuse would be?

DazedAndConfused
04-14-2008, 07:28 PM
No team is a clear favorite in the WC.

Lakers have just as good a shot as anyone and if they can lock up HCA throughout the playoffs it only increases their chances of going deep. I don't buy this whole Odom/Gasol are chokers argument, if that were true then the Celtics shouldn't even bother playing in the postseason since none of their big 3 have had meaningful playoff success.

ElNono
04-14-2008, 07:34 PM
No team is a clear favorite in the WC.

Lakers have just as good a shot as anyone and if they can lock up HCA throughout the playoffs it only increases their chances of going deep. I don't buy this whole Odom/Gasol are chokers argument, if that were true then the Celtics shouldn't even bother playing in the postseason since none of their big 3 have had meaningful playoff success.

Don't get defensive... I didn't call them chokers... I actually think Pau can have an impact now that he has a great coach and a superstar perimeter guy (unlike Mike Miller), so he is possibly the guy with the better chances of having a great post-season, at least on offense...
Odom just baffles me. He plays great for stretches. It's like sometimes he's not in the game at all. You can't do that in the playoffs.

DazedAndConfused
04-14-2008, 07:46 PM
This has been discussed ad-nauseum but Odom as a #2 option = FAILURE. Odom as the #3 or #4 option seems to work much better. The Lakers so far are playing .800 ball with Kobe, Gasol, Odom and have beaten every single elite team they've faced with their big 3.

Purple & Gold
04-14-2008, 07:48 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao @ all the Laker hate. Classic. Keep bringing it guys, just shows how insecure you are about your own team. Face it, all you clowns live in a Laker world and you guys are just second class citizens. Lakers on the verge of winning another Team of the Decade Title!!! :elephant :elephant :elephant

Purple & Gold
04-14-2008, 07:50 PM
I disagree. Although perhaps I should have said they have a weak minded team (except for Kobe). I think that fits them more. Kobe still has a problem with bad shot selection when things get tough for the team. Fisher has been playing like a fucking retard. Sasha plays hard but is retarded. Walton isn't dumb, but chooses to play like a retard. Get physical with Pau and he wilts. Odom is a load of talent that completely lacks consistency and heart. Can't shoot freethrows for shit either. Once Farmar hits a 3, he gets fucking 3-point crazy and just jacks them any time he sees the slightest amount of daylight. And no one plays good defense except Kobe. Their defense was extremely reliant on Bynum, and I personally doubt he's coming back, despite all the Laker hopefulls who keep saying "oh trainers said he will be back in 2 games! WATCH OUT!!!" and then he never fucking comes. Even if he does, he won't have much effect at all because if there have been this many delays, then chances are, he is much more fucked up than reports were saying.

I don't think I've ever read a bigger pile of shit.

Purple & Gold
04-14-2008, 07:53 PM
JA Adande is the biggest Laker homer on ESPN. Every other article he writes is about them. The Lakers are a great team now, but without Bynum they won't go very far in the playoffs. Their interior D is weak right now, so guys like Duncan and Amare should have a field day against the likes of Pau Gasol.

Besides, I'm not too impressed with a win over the Spurs sans Ginobili.

Now this I can actually agree with.


Lakers won't win it all without Bynum. Defense suspect.

ElNono
04-14-2008, 08:01 PM
This has been discussed ad-nauseum but Odom as a #2 option = FAILURE. Odom as the #3 or #4 option seems to work much better. The Lakers so far are playing .800 ball with Kobe, Gasol, Odom and have beaten every single elite team they've faced with their big 3.

You haven't beaten us with our big 3 on the floor yet.

DazedAndConfused
04-14-2008, 08:05 PM
True, Manu would have made yesterday's game a lot closer. Bynum and Ariza are gonna be needed if we end up facing a full strength Spurs team.

cash459
04-14-2008, 08:06 PM
let me pretend to be DAC...when we get Manu (in his words bynum) back we will be unstoppable :rolleyes

cash459
04-14-2008, 08:06 PM
just a joke DAC...a little ribbing...dont get mad....its all good :toast
but yes, Manu would have made a BIG diff in the game

DazedAndConfused
04-14-2008, 08:11 PM
At this point even I will admit Bynum's contributions will be pretty limited if he does come back. The hope is that we get him back by the 2nd round and he starts getting the rust off by the WCF and is ready to go for the Finals. Probably not gonna happen, but one can hope.

cash459
04-14-2008, 10:41 PM
its ok, it seems that there is a lot of hoping going around in the west this year. Certain teams are hoping to get players back (lakers), some are hoping to get it together (spurs, mavs, rockets) some hoping they can keep it together (suns, jazz) some hoping they dont fold like a lawn chair under pressure (hornets).....plenty of hoping to go around and then some.