ABC News Shows True Clolors

[Nbadan]

Why is anyone surprised about Charlie Gibson and ABC New's turn to the right after last nights hit job on the Democratic candidates, I've been telling you that ABC is Reich-wing news for a long, long, time

Obama's reaction...


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ABC Hosts Heckled After Debate: "The Crowd Is Turning On Me"
The Huffington Post | April 16, 2008 10:17 PM


Reflecting what seemed to be the main consensus of the night - that ABC botched this debate, big time - Charlie Gibson tells the crowd there will be one more, superfluous commercial break of the night and is subsequently jeered.

"OH..." he declares, hands raised in defense. "The crowd is turning on me, the crowd is turning on me."

Visitors to ABC's site weren't much kinder. Here's a sampling on page 1:

"...This is AWFUL. Thank goodness for Jon Stewart and Comedy Central. He does a better job of interviewing and asking relevant questions of his guests in 5 minutes than these 2 yahoos have in more than an hour. ABC should be ashamed. George should be ashamed. Charlie should be ashamed. This isn't a debate. This is a hit job."

Huff (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/abc-hosts-heckled-after-d_n_97124.html)

Yes ABC News thought it was more important to ask the candidates their feelings about flying the flag and wearing lapel pins than their thoughts about health-care and the housing crisis, jobs and Iraq, that is what passes as legit reporting by the corporate M$M...

[Dude]

This is the kinds BS that makes Chump and Randomguy want to reproduce.

[atxrocker]

i posted that video in another thread. obamas attempt to be cool and hip by "shaking the haters off" is a perfect example of why i can't stand the guy.

[inconvertible]

George Snufolofgus worked for the Clintons for years, what did anyone expect?

[BonnerDynasty]

ZOMG! Gibson would not let them get away from the capital gains tax increase and other things dems try to completely ignore.

What a fucking joke.

You're all victims! I will take care of you. Let's dust our shoulders off yo!

[Don Quixote]

Well, well, well.

The shoe's on the other foot for a change. So ABC has finally asked Obama a few tough questions. They've been doing it to Hillary for a little while now. And you don't like it, do you? Not used to it? I don't see how you would be, since the American news media is predominantly (but not totally) liberal.

Now you know how we conservatives feel.

[GaryJohnston]

The whole debate was shit. Democrats tearing at eachother and doing the dirty work for McCain.

[PixelPusher]

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[Fillmoe]

another reason im voting for the vagina

[Ignignokt]

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i am laughing at your unfortunate ass this whole time and to people like you.

for once it seemed like the country was for sure going to elect a democrat, but now the democrats are getting the "sniveling" questions bush, reagan, nixon were subject to.

the crawford ranch criticism, fake NG documents, Bush's DUI, bush not knowing the ambassador of the Georgia Republic by name, Herbert Walker not knowing how to purchase socks like regular people, Bush Sr looking at his watch during his debates, etc. All the pointless shit repubs used to get lombasted with have now come home to roost for Obama...

Yeah, you may have a point. Obama may have been asked some pretty trivial questions, but he's not mad that he was served his own medicine. He's mad he couldn't awnser the questions on capital gains tax correctly.

Even bush could awnser that one, and got that one right in 2000.

Obama, is empty promises.

What's the point of talking about the real issues anyway if they have the same platform.

becuase in the end, it will come back to experience vs hope.


yeah, those are the real issues.

blow me.

[Nbadan]

This is the kinds BS that makes Chump and Randomguy want to reproduce.

Well, maybe Chumpy and Ignot....

[Ignignokt]

M$M, wingnut, Reichwing news....

[atxrocker]

i just can't wait till obama resorts to doing the soldja boy dance at his next event. i'll have to see that one.

[Nbadan]

Your an idiot....Meanwhile, back to the politics of distraction...


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[atxrocker]

you should learn punctuation before making those type of remarks

[Nbadan]

you should learn punctuation before making those type of remarks

:rolleyes


...and you should work for ABC News...


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[Ignignokt]

Your an idiot....Meanwhile, back to the politics of distraction...


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Yeah lets get to the real issues, like the differences between Barrack and Hillary.


Oh wait, that's actually just Experience vs Change.

Wow, substantive.

[Nbadan]

Yeah lets get to the real issues, like the differences between Barrack and Hillary.


Oh wait, that's actually just Experience vs Change.

Wow, substantive.

I'll bite, name Hillary's experience..

[Ignignokt]

I'll bite, name Hillary's experience..


define why obama's change is different to hillary's first.

[Nbadan]

define why obama's change is different to hillary's first.

....16 month timetable for withdrawal from Iraq forcing Iraqi leaders to get their shit together...

....Obama's message has been inspirational, Hillary's message divisive...

...Obama has promised to investigate the Bush administration...

....Obama will bring audits back to unbridled military spending and contracts...

...Obama will appoint real Generals who aren't shills protecting their jobs....

and finally,....Do you really want Bill Clinton as first man?

[atxrocker]

....Obama's message has been inspirational

short version of your post

[Nbadan]

What's wrong with being inspirational? For all his faults, Reagan was inspirational...

[Nbadan]

More from the debates..

ABC transcript:


"And, Senator Obama, I want to do one more question, which goes to the basic issue of electability. And it is a question raised by a voter in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, a woman by the name of Nash McCabe."

Who is Nash McCabe anyway and did ABC News just happen to stumble upon her? Don't make any bets...

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/04/04/us/04penn1.650.jpg
How can I vote for a president who won’t wear a flag pin?" NASH McCABE, unemployed clerk-typist.

Ny Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/04/us/politics/04penn.html)

Surprise, surprise, surprise, over 12 million people in PA yet two major news outlets managed to "stumble upon" the same woman. There's no way that's a coincidence. ABC went looking for her. They WANTED that question...

[atxrocker]

for obama being the front runner, you sure make some desperate posts.

[Nbadan]

This isn't about Obama, who polls show won lasts night 'debate' and I use the words very loosely in this case in this day and age of so many pressing critical issues, i.e. the economy, the environment, the health care crisis, the erosion of civil rights and trashing of the Constitution, etc. etc. needing the full attention of the American People, I found this exercise by ABC to be a national disgrace. Seriously, flag lapel pins, the perception of whether some people are bitter or not...

What came through to me was the total disconnect of the moderators from reality, in truth I believe their biggest concern was whether people making well over a hundred thousand and probably closer to two hundred thousand would have a tax increase. The moderators seemed intent on doing their best to blur both candidates well stated intentions on this issue in order to hurt their chances in the general election. In the final analysis, I believe the American People are waking up and the entity that took the biggest hit last night regarding credibility and integrity was ABC.

[smeagol]

Dan, you shit is weak. Claiming that ABC (and other major networks) are right-wing, is stupid.

Let you candidate take it like a man.

[George Gervin's Afro]

This isn't about Obama, who polls show won lasts night 'debate' and I use the words very loosely in this case in this day and age of so many pressing critical issues, i.e. the economy, the environment, the health care crisis, the erosion of civil rights and trashing of the Constitution, etc. etc. needing the full attention of the American People, I found this exercise by ABC to be a national disgrace. Seriously, flag lapel pins, the perception of whether some people are bitter or not...

What came through to me was the total disconnect of the moderators from reality, in truth I believe their biggest concern was whether people making well over a hundred thousand and probably closer to two hundred thousand would have a tax increase. The moderators seemed intent on doing their best to blur both candidates well stated intentions on this issue in order to hurt their chances in the general election. In the final analysis, I believe the American People are waking up and the entity that took the biggest hit last night regarding credibility and integrity was ABC.

polls? everyone I have heard talk about the debate said clinton won hands down. In fact the Fox News focus group also indicated Clinton won the debate. Obama has been given a pass this whole year while Clinton has been getting hammered daily. All we've heard from the media is tha CLinton has no chance, Hilary should get out, Hillary,Hillary,Hillary... yet Obama finally is asked about himself and those qiuestions aren't based in reality? No one knows who Obama is .. I mean that in the sense that he has served 2 yrs in the Senate and he is now the saviour of the world.. get over it Dan it's about time Obama has had to deal with some scrutiny.. If Hillary Clinton or McCain were associated for 20 yrs with a pastor like Wright they would have been crucified.. He doesn't do himself any favors when he acts stupid when asked about Wright..

[DarrinS]

To Nbadan, everything is a conspiracy.


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[Don Quixote]

Don't look now, but it looks like Hillary might yet steal this thing! The big question for the superdelegates will be: which one do you think you can win with? Yes, you would be right in saying that the Party would be going against the will of the people in this regard. The people have spoken, and they want Obama!

If I may offer a bit of advice, I would advise Obama supporters, if indeed the Clintons steal the nomination, that you remember what they have done to you. Remember what 2-faced liars they are. Remember how the MSM is full of Clintonistas -- Stephanopolos, Matthews, Esterich. Remember how she rigged this last debate to make your man Obama look foolish, when he was right all along. Remember that she will say one thing and do the entirely opposite thing tomorrow. And remember how she voted for the war.

And go to that voting booth on election day, and vote with your heart.

[xrayzebra]

Oh poor Obama he got ask some real questions and he
couldn't handle it. So what happens? All his apologist
coming running to his rescue. And Obama starts crying:
they didn't ask any real questions until 45 mins into the
debate. Well got news for Obama and the rest of you
apologist, they were real questions and the people did
want to year his answers.

Why wont he wear a flag in his lapel? What was his
connections to the "bomber" Ayers? Why wont he give
up his most wonderful minister who hates America and
white people. Why would he throw his Grandmother
under the bus. Why would he slam fly over country
folks who "cling" to their religion because government
isn't helping enough. What hog wash. Government has
screwed things up and Americans are quite capable of
taking care of themselves, thank you very much.
Typical Americans cling to their religion and get his
snide remarks, but he clings to his minister and would
never give him up. Detect anything wrong there?
And another thing. When ask a policy question about
taxes, he couldn't answer it with any kind of intelligence,
all he fell back on well it just isn't fair. Hog wash.
Some intelligence.

Anyhow Dan and the rest of your Obama cult, hang in
there with the Messiah, the man of change, loose change.
Chump change.

[peewee's lovechild]

What's wrong with being inspirational? For all his faults, Reagan was inspirational...

So, you're comparing Regan to Obama?

Nice.

[Don Quixote]

Anyhow, BasketballDave and the rest of your Obama cult, hang in there with the Messiah, the man of change, loose change.

Now, Zebra, don't put them down! They're not a cult ... they truly believe. And let's believe with them.

Obama is the man of change. He'll take us in a new direction, where race and identity and social class no longer matter. The Clintons, on the other hand, are downright nasty. They're evil, and probably closet Republicans.

Knowing this, if I'm an Obama supporter, I'm sticking with my man, even if Clinton wins the nomination. Because I'd be sticking to my principles no matter what.

YES WE CAN!

[boutons_]

ABC is owned by Disney, they're pros at fabricating fantasy.

"All the fantasy news that the corps see fit"

[Nbadan]

Obama meets Jay-Z...


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[xrayzebra]

Heard the latest. Obama complaining about Hillary stabbing him
in the back and twisting the blade. Poor baby, no one is suppose
to do bad things to him.....waaaahhhhh, waaaahhhhh. Why's
everybody picking on me. I am above it all, I am the messiah.
And you are messing with my halo!

[Mr. Peabody]

Heard the latest. Obama complaining about Hillary stabbing him
in the back and twisting the blade. Poor baby, no one is suppose
to do bad things to him.....waaaahhhhh, waaaahhhhh. Why's
everybody picking on me. I am above it all, I am the messiah.
And you are messing with my halo!

By "heard the latest," do you mean "Hey did you all listen to Sean Hannity today like I did?"

Ray, I am going to take away your WOAI privileges for a month....

[Mr. Peabody]

Obama meets Jay-Z...



Can you imagine Clinton or McCain trying to get away with that....:lol

[xrayzebra]

By "heard the latest," do you mean "Hey did you all listen to Sean Hannity today like I did?"

Ray, I am going to take away your WOAI privileges for a month....


No problem, I don't listen Sean. Obviously you do.
What did he have to say about it?

[Mr. Peabody]

No problem, I don't listen Sean. Obviously you do.
What did he have to say about it?

I listen to him occasionally. I don't like him as much as Rush or even Laura Ingram. Right now, he's just tickled pink that the question he fed to George Stephanopoulos made it into the debate. I also occasionally listen to Joe Pags, but he's little more than a poor man's Hannity.

[Nbadan]

Right now, he's just tickled pink that the question he fed to George Stephanopoulos made it into the debate.

Rush is a narcissist who thinks way to highly of himself, typical of druggies....the Clinton camp was feeding these questions to Stephanopoulous long before Hannity or Rush...

[atxrocker]

Can you imagine Clinton or McCain trying to get away with that....:lol

was that him, "getting away with it"? cause a group of his brainwashed bots ate it up? that type of behavior coming from a presidential candidate is pretty ridiculous to be frank. his attempt to be funny or cool fails miserably imo.

[Don Quixote]

Waa, waa, waa.

Obama was asked a few tough questions and he couldn't answer them. Yes, Hannity and ABC News are obviously in cahoots. How dare they hold him accountable for his words and connections!?

But, Obama supporters, I am on your side! If Clinton steals Obama's nomination, however, I would advise you guys to stick it to her. Teach Clinton, the MSM, and Hannity a lesson. Shoot, stick it to Rush, too! Write Obama's name at the bottom of your ballot this fall. Or stay home. But you don't have to give your precious vote to the Clintons.

[possessed]

Obama supporters sound desperate now that the wheels are coming off. This will certainly be fun to watch.

At least 4 more years of listening to sniveling liberal, anti-republican hate speech as well.

Never a dull moment. :lol

[PEP]

I think thats a great plan, if your candidate is not on the ticket in November write them in and if your voting location uses those touch screen machines just forget it and stay home.

[ChumpDumper]

What's a clolor?

[smeagol]

Seriously dan, quit bitching . . .

[word]

Why is anyone surprised about Charlie Gibson and ABC New's turn to the right after last nights hit job on the Democratic candidates, I've been telling you that ABC is Reich-wing news for a long, long, time

Obama's reaction...


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ABC Hosts Heckled After Debate: "The Crowd Is Turning On Me"
The Huffington Post | April 16, 2008 10:17 PM



Huff (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/abc-hosts-heckled-after-d_n_97124.html)

Yes ABC News thought it was more important to ask the candidates their feelings about flying the flag and wearing lapel pins than their thoughts about health-care and the housing crisis, jobs and Iraq, that is what passes as legit reporting by the corporate M$M...

Thing is, in that clip, he doesn't do anything but talk about how they're not talking about what they need to be talking about.

[Mr. Peabody]

was that him, "getting away with it"? cause a group of his brainwashed bots ate it up? that type of behavior coming from a presidential candidate is pretty ridiculous to be frank. his attempt to be funny or cool fails miserably imo.

It doesn't appear that your opinion reflects the consensus on this issue....


Update: MTV picks up the mashup with "Obama Finds His Inner Jigga, Scores Zillions More 'Youth' Votes," linking to Ackerman's compliment and this post. The video made the fourth top rated clip in YouTube's "news and politics" section on Friday -- watch for it to go viral over the weekend.

[ClingingMars]

What's wrong with being inspirational? For all his faults, Reagan was inspirational...

Reagan didn't have faults; he made mistakes.

- Mars

[Nbadan]

It's time for the people of Penn and the Superdelegates to put Hitlary out of her misery....really, it's for her own good...


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Like nails on a chalkboard......some might say, elitism....

[Nbadan]

Oh damn....I bow before Franks greatness...

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[florige]

i just can't wait till obama resorts to doing the soldja boy dance at his next event. i'll have to see that one.



:lmao I can just got a mental image of him doing that.

[Don Quixote]

It's time for the people of Penn and the Superdelegates to put Hitlary out of her misery....really, it's for her own good...


That's right, BasketballDan and the rest of those who support Obama's mission to change America.

If Hillary manages to steal this nomination, you remember all the mean nastiness that came from her camp. Remember how Hitler-y threw Rev. Wright and Ayers and meeting with foreign leaders at your man. And remember everything she did to prevent change from happening.

Remember all this on election day.

[xrayzebra]

:lmao I can just got a mental image of him doing that.


Me too. Frightening. :blah

[Nbadan]

Even the bias at ABC News can't put humpty-dumpty back together again...

Clinton’s New Favorite Metric
By Christopher Beam


The Clinton campaign has always had its own way of doing things. When Clinton realized she couldn’t win the pledged-delegate count, it became about the popular vote. When that gap widened, it became about “big states.” Now it’s back to being about the popular vote—only the Clinton campaign isn’t counting like the rest of us. As predicted, they’re including Florida and Michigan.

There are so many problems with this, it’s hard to know where to begin.

First, the obvious: Florida and Michigan don’t count. If you’re talking about the overall tally, Obama still leads by about 500,000 votes. If you include Florida and Michigan, though, Clinton is ahead by 120,000. Nevermind that neither candidate campaigned in Florida (Clinton will tell you that Obama violated this agreement by airing an ad on CNN ad that appeared across the country, including Florida) and that Obama wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan. That’s why none of the networks—not NBC, not ABC, not CNN—are including those states in their popular-vote tallies without caveats.

Next, there’s the Clinton camp’s duplicity when it comes to reporting these numbers. ABC’s Jake Tapper reports this morning that Clinton’s Fact Hub twisted an ABC report on the popular vote. ABC News’ Rick Klein had written, "By one (rightly disputed) metric -- the popular vote, including Florida and Michigan -- Clinton has pulled ahead of Obama. But without the rogue states, Obama is still up by 500,000 -- and if you can find another objective measurement by which she’s in the lead, let us know.” Based on that report, the Fact Hub claimed that “ABC News reported this morning that ‘Clinton has pulled ahead of Obama’ in the popular vote.” That Tapper bothered to report the misrepresentation makes it pretty clear that the Clinton camp is going to get resistance on this one. If they want to twist the numbers, they’ll have to do it without the media’s help.

Lastly, there’s the fundamental problem with the popular vote: It’s wrong. As we’ve pointed out before, the popular-vote tally includes only the roughest estimates of caucus turnout, since many caucus states only report delegates, not individuals. Moreover, because caucus turnout is low relative to primaries, the popular vote ends up underestimating the candidates’ popularity in those states. So whoever does better in caucuses—in this case, Obama—ends up getting underrepresented. (You could argue that this is divine retribution for Obama’s skewed performance in caucuses, but hey, that’s the system the states chose—and the candidates agreed to.) So the “popular vote”—an authoritative-sounding phrase—is really just a shoddy estimate that underrepresents Obama’s caucus performance and therefore favors Clinton.

That’s not to say Clinton’s magical popular-vote math won’t sway a few superdelegates. No doubt it will. New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine said last month that he would reconsider his support for Clinton if Obama won the popular vote. If he’s looking for an excuse to stick with Clinton, this could be it. But most supers are likely to be extremely squeamish about disregarding the pledged-delegate count. No modern presidential candidate has won the Democratic nomination without winning pledged delegates, and no superdelegate wants to facilitate a historical first like that when it means potentially undermining the first black president. On the other hand, if that’s true, you wonder why they’re waiting so long to decide.

[101A]

Wonder if the Democrats not counting Florida and Michigan will affect those states in the general?

Two BIG SWING STATES, and they simply "don't count". What a screwed up party.

As I've written before, only the Democratic party could get a Republican elected this year.

[Nbadan]

Yeah, because if Hillary or Obama don't win the nomination Democrats are gonna turn to McCain....your an idiot...

[xrayzebra]

Yeah, because if Hillary or Obama don't win the nomination Democrats are gonna turn to McCain....your an idiot...

We need to put this post in a special place so we can bring it
back up at a later date.......and make dan very angry.

[ClingingMars]

We need to put this post in a special place so we can bring it
back up at a later date.......and make dan very angry.

it will be eternally quoted in my sig when McCain wins.

- Mars

[xrayzebra]

On Fox news last night they brought up the fact that the dimms
convention would have only 48 states at their convention for the
first time since I think they said 1956.

I just cant see it happening. I still think Michigan and Florida will
be seated somehow, someway.

[Nbadan]

Maybe they eventually seat half the delegates in Michigan.....so what? Doesn't change anything....


http://images.salon.com/comics/tomo/2008/04/28/tomo/story.jpg

[Doc Jerome]

i posted that video in another thread. obamas attempt to be cool and hip by "shaking the haters off" is a perfect example of why i can't stand the guy.

Real shallow.

[Don Quixote]

Ironic. Liberals devouring one of their own (ABC News)!

[some_user86]

Big Media isn't conservative or liberal. It's just Big Media. It loves entertainment, and it will whore up anything to make a buck. If it means repeating the same nauseating gossip (and as long as the general public bites), than so be it. And the public loves them some juicy gossip.

[Nbadan]

A nice montage of ABC News whoring for HIllary...

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[Nbadan]

ABC News has apparently decided to drop all pretense and be a 24-7 whore for Hillary...

Breaking: Clinton to hold town hall on ABC's 'This Week'


Hillary Clinton will hold a live town hall meeting Sunday on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos," according to a source.

Just two days before the primaries, Clinton's town hall will be broadcast live from Indiana, and include viewer questions from North Carolina.

Politico (http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0508/Breaking_Clinton_to_hold_town_hall_on_ABCs_This_We ek.html)

who needs money when ABC News is willing to be your primary campaign source for free..