Manu Wins 07-08 Nba Sixth Man Award

[Los Spurs]

Congrats to Manu!

NEW YORK, April 21, 2008 – Manu Ginobili of the San Antonio Spurs is the winner of the NBA Sixth Man Award presented by Kia Motors as the league’s best player in a reserve role for the 2007-08 season, the NBA announced today.



Ginobili received 615 out of a possible 620 points, including 123 of a possible 124 first-place votes, from a panel of 124 sportswriters and broadcasters throughout the United States and Canada. Leandro Barbosa of the Phoenix Suns finished second with 283 points and Jason Terry of the Dallas Mavericks finished third with 44 points.



In order to be eligible for this award, players had to have come off the bench in more games than they started. Players were awarded five points for each first-place vote, three points for each second-place vote and one point for each third-place vote.



As part of its support of the Sixth Man Award, Kia Motors will donate a brand-new 2009 Kia Borrego seven-passenger SUV on behalf of Ginobili to Roy Maas’ Youth Alternatives of San Antonio which is committed to caring for children in crisis. Each winner of the four year-end awards presented by Kia Motors will receive a Borrego on behalf of the player’s charity of choice.



A sixth man in 51-of-74 games played this season, Ginobili led the Spurs in scoring with a career-high average of 19.5 points to go along with 4.8 rebounds, 4.5 assists and 1.47 steals. He increased his scoring nearly 6.0 points over his career average entering this season (13.7 ppg). He is also the only player in the NBA to average at least 17 points in under 32.0 minutes per game.



Ginobili is the only player in the NBA ranked in the top 31 for points per game (31st), steals (16th), assists (28th), three-point field goals made (156, 16th), three-point field goal percentage (.401, 28th), free throws made (380, 16th) and free throw percentage (.860, 16th).



The 2007-08 NBA Sixth Man Award presented by Kia Motors is part of a series of on-court performance awards called “The NBA Performance Awards Presented by Kia Motors.” The awards, which are part of a multi-year marketing partnership that makes Kia Motors America the official automotive partner of the NBA, also include the Most Valuable Player, Defensive Player of the Year, and Most Improved Player Award. The series also includes the Eastern and Western Conference Players of the Month presented by Kia Motors. For more information on the “The NBA Performance Awards Presented by Kia Motors” visit www.NBA.com/performanceawards



Attached are the voting results for the 2007-08 NBA Sixth Man Award presented by Kia Motors:



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2007-08 NBA Sixth Man Award



2007-08 NBA SIXTH MAN AWARD PRESENTED BY KIA MOTORS VOTING



Player, Team 1st 2nd 3rd Pts

Manu Ginobili, San Antonio 123 - - 615

Leandro Barbosa, Phoenix 1 84 26 283

Jason Terry, Dallas -- 9 17 44

Kyle Korver, Utah -- 7 13 34

Ben Gordon, Chicago -- 6 9 27

JR Smith, Denver -- 4 10 22

Josh Childress, Atlanta -- 5 8 23

James Posey, Boston -- 3 10 19

Jason Maxiell, Detroit -- 1 8 11

Travis Outlaw, Portland -- -- 11 11

Linas Kleiza, Denver -- 1 2 5

Jordan Farmar, L.A. Lakers -- 1 2 5

Jerry Stackhouse, Dallas -- -- 4 4

Rashad McCants, Minnesota -- 1 -- 3

Louis Williams, Philadelphia -- 1 -- 3

Jarrett Jack, Portland -- 1 -- 3

David Lee, New York -- -- 3 3

Andres Nocioni, Chicago -- -- 1 1



ALL-TIME NBA SIXTH MAN AWARD PRESENTED BY KIA MOTORS WINNERS





1982-83 Bobby Jones, Philadelphia 76ers

1983-84 Kevin McHale, Boston Celtics

1984-85 Kevin McHale, Boston Celtics

1985-86 Bill Walton, Boston Celtics

1986-87 Ricky Pierce, Milwaukee Bucks

1987-88 Roy Tarpley, Dallas Mavericks

1988-89 Eddie Johnson, Phoenix Suns

1989-90 Ricky Pierce, Milwaukee Bucks

1990-91 Detlef Schrempf, Indiana Pacers

1991-92 Detlef Schrempf, Indiana Pacers

1992-93 Clifford Robinson, Portland Trail Blazers

1993-94 Dell Curry, Charlotte Hornets

1994-95 Anthony Mason, New York Knicks

1995-96 Toni Kukoc, Chicago Bulls

1996-97 John Starks, New York Knicks

1997-98 Danny Manning, Phoenix Suns

1998-99 Darrell Armstrong, Orlando Magic

1999-00 Rodney Rogers, Phoenix Suns

2000-01 Aaron McKie, Philadelphia 76ers

2001-02 Corliss Williamson, Detroit Pistons

2002-03 Bobby Jackson, Sacramento Kings

2003-04 Antawn Jamison, Dallas Mavericks

2004-05 Ben Gordon, Chicago Bulls

2005-06 Mike Miller, Memphis Grizzlies

2006-07 Leandro Barbosa, Phoenix Suns

2007-08 Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs

[bdictjames]

First!!!

Grats to Manu! Now brush this off aside, and win the Game 2!

[phyzik]

cool.... he should have got it last year too.

[ancestron]

a well deserved award. Congrats Manu. Now if they would just award Bowen with the DPOY award, all would be right in the world.

[Budkin]

Just got the text from Spurs.com to my phone... props to Manu!!! :clap

[carina_gino20]

:lol I'd love to see his face when he gets it.

Since he doesn't particularly like the award, then I'll make it up and be doubly happy for him. :lol

615-620, 123-124. Manu is so efficient. :p:

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

CONGRATS TO MANU



will the presentation be before Tuesdays game?

[SAGambler]

WTG Manu. Now go out there and get another "Ship" to sit along with it.

[howbouthemspurs]

awesome

[mVp]

Nice, but we all know Manu is a starter that comes off the bench... he's not a sixth man in my book :lol

[dbreiden83080]

Way to go Manu, well earned job well done. :toast

[dmac]

Whoop!

[CubanMustGo]

I wanna know who the asshole is that didn't vote him 1st, 2nd, OR 3rd. It would be the same guy that voted Barbosa #1, no doubt a jealous loser Suns sportswriter.

[degenerate_gambler]

nice gino..

[Cherry]

Nice, but we all know Manu is a starter that comes off the bench... he's not a sixth man in my book :lol

I'm sure he's not "happy" for this...



"se define la votación del mejor 6to hombre y ya lo dije otras veces: no me preocupa ni desespera ganarlo; tampoco será un gran halago, en principio porque, aunque lo soy, no me siento un sexto hombre."

[smeagol]

Nice, but we all know Manu is a starter that comes off the bench... he's not a sixth man in my book :lol

He fits the criteria, doesn't he?

[MajorMike]

I wanna know who the asshole is that didn't vote him 1st, 2nd, OR 3rd. It would be the same guy that voted Barbosa #1, no doubt a jealous loser Suns sportswriter.

Since there are 124 votes and the one 1st place vote Manu didn't get went to LB, it is safe to assume that ballot didn't have Manu 2nd or 3rd either. Prolly someone who was either all for LB or dead set against Manu actually being a 6th man.

[Sec24Row7]

:jack does that trophy look like this? :lobt2:

[Ginofan]

Super sweet. Congrats Manu!!!

[Spurminator]

Clearly someone who has a vote has decided that a sixth man is not what NBA guidelines say it is. This person should have his/her vote taken away next year.

[raspsa]

So, I'm womdering if Manu is the first 6th man ever to kead his team in scoring? If so, I think that record will last for a long, long time..

[carina_gino20]

So, I'm womdering if Manu is the first 6th man ever to kead his team in scoring? If so, I think that record will last for a long, long time..

I don't know who it is, but I don't think Manu is the first. Someone did it some years ago.

[mexicanjunior]

Congrats to Manu!!!

[mVp]

He fits the criteria, doesn't he?

I guess so, in theory... but in practice, he's not the sixth man on the team.

[smeagol]

I guess so, in theory... but in practice, he's not the sixth man on the team.


According to who?

[Cherry]

According to Manu:

"se define la votación del mejor 6to hombre y ya lo dije otras veces: no me preocupa ni desespera ganarlo; tampoco será un gran halago, en principio porque, aunque lo soy, no me siento un sexto hombre."


Manu is not a Six Man. Period.

[ForeignFan]

at last ! well deserved

[Jimcs50]

Now he needs to add a NBA Finals MVP trophy to his showcase.

:smokin

[SAtown]

:tu

Well deserved, Manu. Now go get the real trophies

[Cherry]

:tu

Well deserved, Manu. Now go get the real trophies

:lol:tu

[honestfool84]

when will the rest of the awards be announced?
MVP, DPOY, All NBA teams, ROTY, and COTY, stuff like that.


i have a strong feeling bowen will win DPOY..

[ShoogarBear]

Manu is not a Six Man. Period.

But is he Hispanic?
























Congrats, anyway.

[mVp]

According to who?

According to logic and common sense.

[duncan228]

Nice. I'm glad he got it even if he wasn't thrilled with it. Recognition for a job well done. For being willing to come off the bench when we all know he's a starter. He's a winner, in all catagories.

[carina_gino20]

According to logic and common sense.

Logic and common sense says: A player is qualified to be a sixth-man award winner if he comes off the bench more than he starts. Manu is clearly above sixth-man level, but he qualifies. Are they going to overlook him again just because the others are way below his level?

[Slohoop]

Congrats Manu :clap :clap :clap

http://enpiyama.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/manu_ginobili_1.jpg

[FromWayDowntown]

Kevin McHale
Antawn Jamison
Ben Gordon

All 3 of those guys have won the award in the past and were clearly not just the 6th best player on their own teams. I don't see, in any meaningful way, how this argument that Ginobili's status as a star should somehow deprive him of the opportunity to win the award that has rarely, if ever, truly gone to a guy who was just the 6th best player on his own team.

There was a long thread dedicated to this, but I think, if nothing else, Manu deserves this award for embodying the very prinicples of teamwork and selflessness that 6th men are supposed to be about. Few players with star-level games in the current NBA would willingly accept a role coming off the bench for the betterment of their teams. Manu clearly has done that and should be acknowledged for that so that history will remember that ethic. I buy the argument that he shouldn't win it every year, even though he probably could. I don't buy the argument that he should never win the award, though.

And, more importantly, he changes the game like nobody else who comes off the bench in the majority of his team's games -- that's the criteria for winning the award and he's been deservingly selected as this year's recipient.

[smeagol]

According to logic and common sense.

If the criteria used to decide who is and who is not a 6th man is well defined (come off the bench in more games that starting), then there is little room for discussion regarding if he dersves or not the award.

I'm quite happy he got it though, because the chances of him getting any other award (except maybe MVP finals if he the Spurs get there and if he plays brilliantly the finals) are very slim.

Written criteria > logic and common sense

[1Parker1]

Congrats! I wonder when they give him his trophy....:lol

[phxspurfan]

Nice, but we all know Manu is a starter that comes off the bench... he's not a sixth man in my book :lol

So were a lot of people on this list (At least in one point in their careers). McHale, Schrempf, Starks, Jamison could have been/were serviceable starters.

[mVp]

Logic and common sense says: A player is qualified to be a sixth-man award winner if he comes off the bench more than he starts. Manu is clearly above sixth-man level, but he qualifies. Are they going to overlook him again just because the others are way below his level?

Come on now! We all know that Manu coming off the bench is Pop's invention, that's what logic and common sense says! so, for some of you Manu is the man after Finley or Oberto? I guess not...

But hey, it's not like I have a problem with it, I'm happy for him, he deserves some recognition, but I guess he doesn't like the idea of being considered a sixth man... Idk it's just what I think.

[smeagol]

Logic and common sense says: A player is qualified to be a sixth-man award winner if he comes off the bench more than he starts. Manu is clearly above sixth-man level, but he qualifies. Are they going to overlook him again just because the others are way below his level?

Carina gets it.

Thanks

[Kori Ellis]

So, I'm womdering if Manu is the first 6th man ever to kead his team in scoring? If so, I think that record will last for a long, long time..

Dominique Wilkins led the Spurs in scoring in 96-97 with 18.2 points in a 6th man role but he didn't win the award. John Starks did.

[ShoogarBear]

I think Ricky Pierce led the Bucks in scoring the year he won it.

[smeagol]

Come on now! We all know that Manu coming off the bench is Pop's invention, that's what logic and common sense says! so, for some of you Manu is the man after Finley or Oberto? I guess not...

How in the name of Christ did you get to that conclusion . . . ???????

[spursfan09]

I'm happy for Manu. I know he is no bench player, but I am glad he received some kind of award for recognizing the sacrifice he has made coming off the bench. No other superstar would handle it the way Manu has. I am so happy he is on the Spurs and puts team before anything. Congrats Manu! I know you deserve it, but you are also alot better than a "6th man" Go out and get the real trophies and get the Finals MVP. ;)

[duncan228]

McDonald chimes in.

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/archives/2008/04/jeff_mcdonald_g_9.html

Jeff McDonald: Ginobili named MVP*

* -- among Sixth Men.

Manu Ginobili can add another trophy to his mantel. The Spurs guard has been named the NBA's Sixth Man of the Year, in a vote of sportswriters who cover the league.

It wasn't even close.

Ginobili received 615 of 620 possible points in the voting, including 123 of 124 possible first-place votes. (Doing the math here, it appears that whomever did not vote Ginobili No. 1 actually didn't list him on the ballot at all).

Coming off the bench in 51 of 74 games this season, Ginobili averaged a career-high 19.5 points to lead the Spurs. He is the first Sixth Man of the Year winner to pace his team in scoring since Ricky Pierce did it for Milwaukee in 1990.

There was an interesting typo on the official NBA press release announcing the award, which at one point mistakenly mentions Ginobili just won the league MVP award, not the Sixth Man award. Kobe Bryant would probably argue. Spurs fans would not.

Ginobili will receive his new bauble in a press conference after this morning's practice. We're sure it will occupy an esteemed place in his personal trophy case next to his three NBA championship rings and Olympic gold medal.

[Spurminator]

I think Ricky Pierce led the Bucks in scoring the year he won it.

He actually won the award twice, but he did lead his team in scoring the second time he won it. In fact, he scored 8 ppg more than the next highest scorer on the team.

[BiZNicK]

A complete blowout. They got it right this time, Manu deserved it.


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[E20]

Congrats Manu. :clap

Now, go apeshit in the rest of the PO's and garner a Finals MVP.

[mrsmaalox]

Gawd he's wunnerful!!! :p: Congrats!!!

[manubili]

This prize is overdeserved.

[boutons_]

Congrats, Manu.

Trusting Pop for what's Best for The Team has paid off for you personally and for the team.

Manu is very definitely, since 2003, a pillar of the Golden Age of the Duncan/Pop Spurs.

( Sixth Man is a ROLE off-the-bench, not rating Sixth on the team in talent. GMAFB )

[smeagol]

( Sixth Man is a ROLE off-the-bench, not rating Sixth on the team in talent. GMAFB )

I find myself forced to agree with boutons :depressed






:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Kori Ellis]

Sixth Man is a ROLE off-the-bench, not rating Sixth on the team in talent.

Exactly. Manu is definitely a 6th Man ... he's the first player off the bench for the Spurs. Whether you agree with him coming off the bench, or whether you think he's more talented than all the starters doesn't matter. 6th Man Award just refers to the best player in the league that comes off the bench in a 6th Man role.

[Spurminator]

Assignment for the day is to find out which voter kept Manu from being unanimous.

And, go!

[ShoogarBear]

Does Bernie Lincicome vote?

[loveforthegame]

Congrats to Ginobli. Well deserved.

[mVp]

How in the name of Christ did you get to that conclusion . . . ???????

I was trying to make a point... but whatever.

I know he qualifies for the award, with that said, it's a no-brainer he should be the winner, it's a gimme for him, that's what I'm saying, there's no competition for him in that category because he's not the regular sixth man, is there another sixth man closing out games like him? I guess that's not a common thing for most sixth mans, he's a starter coming off the bench, an all-star coming off the bench, period.

That's all I was saying, I think Manu himself doesn't like this award, but personally I'm happy for him, because he deserved some recognition :)

[Vanda]

Manu is not a 6th man.....He's be part of big 3. This award is a shame.....

[SpursWoman]

Does Bernie Lincicome vote?


Thank you!

Itwasrightonthetipofmytonguebutcouldntrememberthat douchebag'sname.

:lol

[T Park]

Why are people so dense in understanding the 6th man award.

WHY!!!!

[T Park]

boutons said it perfectly

its a role award

not a designation of talent

UNDERSTAND THAT 6th man OBLIVIOUNTS!!!

[ShoogarBear]

boutons said it perfectly


Sig material.

[FromWayDowntown]

Assignment for the day is to find out which voter kept Manu from being unanimous.

And, go!

Chris Palmer of ESPN noted a vote for Barbosa last week -- he seemed to be the only one in the national media to acknowledge such a preference -- but I don't know that he actually has a counting vote in the award.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92013

[T Park]

Sig material.

the repercussions would be unmatched my friend if you did....

[porscha]

:toast:toast:toastGrats to Manu! hug hug

[Vanda]

6th man and top scorer? no way.... maybe if TP make this score in tis position.. I'll undestand.. No now.

[smeagol]

I was trying to make a point... but whatever.

I know he qualifies for the award, with that said, it's a no-brainer he should be the winner, it's a gimme for him, that's what I'm saying, there's no competition for him in that category because he's not the regular sixth man, is there another sixth man closing out games like him? I guess that's not a common thing for most sixth mans, he's a starter coming off the bench, an all-star coming off the bench, period.

That's all I was saying, I think Manu himself doesn't like this award, but personally I'm happy for him, because he deserved some recognition :)


So you agree he qualifies for the award, that it is a no brainer he should get it and you are happy he got it but . . . you do not think he is a 6th man.

You would be happier if he started but never got any award.

Ok.

[porscha]

Now he needs to add a NBA Finals MVP trophy to his showcase.

:smokin

:tu:tu:tu

[smeagol]

6th man and top scorer? no way.... maybe if TP make this score in tis position.. I'll undestand.. No now.

Are you a the Argentine ducks?

[T Park]

Hopefully the award pisses him off and he goes for 35 tommarow and helps win the game in REGULATION!!! :lol

[Vanda]

Smeagol....yes, I'm from Argentina...saturday in Argentina all people are watching soccer,but I was watching NBA.

It's a feeling......

ES UN SENTIMIENTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[smeagol]

Smeagol....yes, I'm from Argentina...saturday in Argentina all people are watching soccer,but I was watching NBA.

It's a feeling......

ES UN SENTIMIENTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was watching the game too.

Please don't make this into a Tony vs Manu thread. It would be uncalled for.

Thanks in advance :tu

[BillsCarnage]

Fluke!

[ShoogarBear]

Yes, I'm sure Leandro will now come roaring back with a monster game a la Hakeem 1995.

[mVp]

So you agree he qualifies for the award, that it is a no brainer he should get it and you are happy he got it but . . . you do not think he is a 6th man.

You would be happier if he started but never got any award.

Ok.

*sigh* Do I have to explain it again? In practice no, he's not a 6th man on my team, but this award is not about talent right? so yes, considering that I'm OK with the award.

BTW, I don't give a shit about individual awards, he doesn't need them, and he doesn't care about it either... I'm happy for him for the recognition, not the award itself.

[Vanda]

Smeagol.... my english lenguage is'n good. but I must tell U a pair of things....

TP vs Manu is not good. Spurs is the target.

But Manu's 6th man award is not for a party...it's mad than a man who is top scorer, 3th in rebounds, 2nd in assistants...to be best 6th man...

Only in NBA happens... MANU HAPPENS......

[Shelly]

Awesome!

[timvp]

Props on the award. Well deserved.

I still don't understand how he didn't win last year and why almost no Spurs fan even thought Manu deserved it last year. Given, it's a lame award but going by the letter of the award, this should be Manu's second time winning it.

[smeagol]

*sigh*

*sigh*



In practice no, he's not a 6th man on my team,


And what team is that?

Oh . . . I get it . . . your team is the one who thinks Manu is diminished as a player because he comes off the bench and this award simply cements his 6th man role.

[ShoogarBear]

I'm sure Manu will be proud to pick up his "Best Player Not Good Enough to Start" award. :stirpot:

[mVp]

Props on the award. Well deserved.

I still don't understand how he didn't win last year and why almost no Spurs fan even thought Manu deserved it last year. Given, it's a lame award but going by the letter of the award, this should be Manu's second time winning it.

Exactly, I think that feeds all this confusion about who should win the award, if it's merely a role thing, this should be Manu's second 6th Man award... I think last year they gave it to the "real" 6th man, the man who's backup in his position, the man who was 6th on his team talent wise also... It's stupid really, Manu should have won it back then too.

[5ToolMan]

I wanna know who the asshole is that didn't vote him 1st, 2nd, OR 3rd. It would be the same guy that voted Barbosa #1, no doubt a jealous loser Suns sportswriter.

1) A jerk Suns writer and/or 2) a protest vote not considering Manu a true 6th man and/or 3) a complete idiot who does not consider Manu in the top 3.

Suns writers have demonstrated an "ability" for any and all the above.

[mVp]

*sigh*





And what team is that?

Oh . . . I get it . . . your team is the one who thinks Manu is diminished as a player because he comes off the bench and this award simply cements his 6th man role.

Dude, I'm done with you, I'm done with the subject actually, I'm not posting in this thread anymore :lol

[themvp]

Congrats! :spin

Hopefully this fires him up for Game 2. Can't wait.

[smeagol]

Smeagol.... my english lenguage is'n good. but I must tell U a pair of things....

Don't worry. ducks English ios not too good either.


TP vs Manu is not good. Spurs is the target.

I rest my case.


But Manu's 6th man award is not for a party...it's mad than a man who is top scorer, 3th in rebounds, 2nd in assistants...to be best 6th man...

Chill amigo. Winning an award is not a reason to be mad.

[VinnyTestesVerde]

about damn time :toast

[smeagol]

Dude, I'm done with you, I'm done with the subject actually, I'm not posting in this thread anymore :lol

C'mon man, this is a discussion board . . . :p:

[clambake]

was there ever any doubt?

congrats!

[Vanda]

Smeagol....maybe U catch your "precious" and then U'll be better...
De donde sos de Argentina? No soy amigo, soy amiga.....

[smeagol]

Smeagol....maybe U catch your "precious" and then U'll be better...
De donde sos de Argentina? No soy amigo, soy amiga.....

Amiga :eyebrows

De Buenos Aires. San Ididro.

[GinobiliLooms]

hells yeah bitches

[Spurminator]

Exactly, I think that feeds all this confusion about who should win the award, if it's merely a role thing, this should be Manu's second 6th Man award... I think last year they gave it to the "real" 6th man, the man who's backup in his position, the man who was 6th on his team talent wise also... It's stupid really, Manu should have won it back then too.

Barbosa had better numbers on the surface last year. So I don't think Manu losing had anything to do with an interpretation of who was a true sixth man. I think voters felt Barbosa had the better season.

[Mister Sinister]

Ginobili = pwn43g3.

[Spurs Brazil]

Congrats Manu!!!!!!!

Well deserved

http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/manu_080419_1200.jpg

[Vanda]

Manu Ginobili happens.

6th man with him only happens in NBA.

[ShoogarBear]

I doubt Parker could win this award if he was coming off the bench.

The only guys who got something for coming off the bench are Amare and Diaw.

[Vanda]

Real 6th Man Must Be Fourious......

[5ToolMan]

The fact that MANu recieved 123 of 124 votes leaves little conversation on if he "deserved" the award or not. As awards go, it was a landslide of epic proportions.

I understand those that question if one of the top players in the game should play off the bench. But really, that is another discussion based only upon what would make the Spurs a better team.

The fact that a star player of MANu's quality will sacrifice self to better team speaks for his value and commitment to the larger picture. It is also what makes this 6th Man on of the best in the game!

[mVp]

Barbosa had better numbers on the surface last year. So I don't think Manu losing had anything to do with an interpretation of who was a true sixth man. I think voters felt Barbosa had the better season.

And that's why I don't give a shit about individual awards, they're all about the fucking stats, I think that Manu being better than Barbosa last year (or this one for that matter) is out of the question, despite the goddamn stats...

PS: I'm sorry, I know I said I wasn't posting here anymore, now I'm definitely out of here :lol

[Vanda]

Amiga :eyebrows

De Buenos Aires. San Ididro.

Aca de Belgrano. No me queda claro si hinchas por Manu o no......:downspin:

[Slydragon]

Whats with the, "We all know he is a starter" BS, Go down that list of past winners and any of them could be a starter for some other team the year they won it. Congrats to Manu.

[Tacker]

I wonder who that one and only tool that gave him a second place.

[Tacker]

Props on the award. Well deserved.

I still don't understand how he didn't win last year and why almost no Spurs fan even thought Manu deserved it last year. Given, it's a lame award but going by the letter of the award, this should be Manu's second time winning it.

Well first, they determine how many games the player came of the bench. In those games, they calculate the number of points rebounds assists etc. Last year, Ginobli started most of the games therefore other players had more points, rebounds, assists etc. because they came off the bench in more games.

[easjer]

I'm sure Manu will be proud to pick up his "Best Player Not Good Enough to Start" award. :stirpot:

:lmao

[timvp]

Well first, they determine how many games the player came of the bench. In those games, they calculate the number of points rebounds assists etc. Last year, Ginobli started most of the games therefore other players had more points, rebounds, assists etc. because they came off the bench in more games.Wow...........

[TampaDude]

No surprise he won. Congrats to Manu!!! :toast

The one guy who didn't vote for him can eat a dick. :flipoff

[Bruno]

Congrats to Manu. :tu

[1Parker1]

I'm sure Manu will be proud to pick up his "Best Player Not Good Enough to Start" award. :stirpot:


Parker should get the "Best Starting Player Not Good Enough to Start" award.


:angel

[Vanda]

Again..what part of manu's worlds not undestand??????

"No me siento un 6to hombre".

"I don't feel a 6th man"

Not a price from him, mh?

No more congratulations.

[ShoogarBear]

Holy crap.

This must be how Michael Jordan felt when his kid dunked on him for the first time.

How Shakespeare felt when Willie, Jr. found a better couplet.

How Angelina felt when little Zahara collected her first vial of blood.





Maybe I should start reading your posts.

[1Parker1]

Holy crap.

This must be how Michael Jordan felt when his kid dunked on him for the first time.

How Shakespeare felt when Willie, Jr. found a better couplet.

How Angelina felt when little Zahara collected her first vial of blood.





Maybe I should start reading your posts.

What?

[boutons_]

Manu hung just so to compose the release, GAMEOVER.

[Spurs Brazil]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080421/capt.010626a867c3497e8bb35506e1fcebde.nba_sixth_ma n_basketball_txeg101.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080421/capt.8ef4e22f5b5646bdbb956d12aeb5e33d.correction_n ba_sixth_man_basketball_txeg102.jpg

[tmtcsc]

"Before I recieved this award, I always felt that it would not be that important or compare to winning a Championship trophy. But now, with the recognition that I have gotten from the writers and my peers I have to say that I am sure it is pretty worthless. I think that I'll wrap some yarn around it and let my cat play with it. Perhaps I can trade it for a plate of Fajitas at Alamo Cafe...."

Manu Ginobili on getting the news he was awarded the 6th man of the year award.

[Spurs Brazil]

Spurs’ Ginobili wins sixth man award
By ELIZABETH WHITE, Associated Press Writer
33 minutes ago

SAN ANTONIO (AP)—San Antonio Spurs guard Manu Ginobili—good enough to be a starter on about any team—won the NBA’s sixth man award given to the league’s best reserve on Monday.

Ginobili led the Spurs in scoring, averaging a career-high 19.5 points to go with 4.8 rebounds and 4.5 assists. Ginobili came off the bench in 51 of the 74 games he played this season.

“I really don’t care about coming from the bench if that helps the team to win a championship,” Ginobili said.

The Spurs have a 1-0 lead over the Phoenix Suns in their best-of-seven first-round playoff series. Suns guard Leandro Barbosa won the award last year and Ginobili came in second.

“He’s one of the better players in the NBA, who just happens to come off the bench,” said Spurs starting guard Michael Finley. “Any other team in the league, he’d probably be starting, but for him to come off the bench and put his ego aside it just shows what kind of team we have, and more importantly what kind of player and All-Star he is.”

Ginobili got 123 of 124 first-place votes for 615 points. Barbosa came in second with 283 points and the Dallas Mavericks’ Jason Terry was third with 44.

“It was no race. Just like, when (is it) going to happen,” said Spurs point guard Tony Parker. “He was our best player all year long.”

The 6-foot-6 guard who gives the team a boost of energy off the bench. He was drafted by the Spurs in 1999 in the second round with the 57th overall pick. The Argentinian has been with the team for three of its four title runs.

“That is what I’m going to remember when I retire, the rings I have,” Ginobili said. “Not the fact I played 28 minutes or 33 or my name being called in the starting lineup. That’s not going to make the difference in 10 to 15 years.”

Ginobili enters the game, usually about midway through the first quarter, to huge roars from the crowd when the Spurs announcer yells “Here comes Manu!”

“I just consider myself a player, a team player,” Ginobili said. “So this year he (Spurs coach Gregg Popovich) thought it was more important for me to come from the bench, so I just try to do it the best way I can.”

Popovich gave all the credit to Ginobili, who is the first Spurs player to win the award.

“Manu is a person who’s much more concerned with the group than he is about himself,” Popovich said. “He got over himself a long time ago. … I don’t think there are too many All-Stars that coaches in this league can go to and say, ‘You’ve been great. Now you’re going to come off the bench.’ So I’m very fortunate.”

Ginobili shot better than 40 percent from 3-point range in his sixth regular NBA season and when he drives the lane—routinely picking up bumps and bruises along the way—he’s known for putting the ball in from seemingly impossible angles.

“Before I got here I used to think those shots that he made were luck, and what we called, when I was growing up, fluke shots,” Finley said. “Now that I’m his teammate and I see him on a daily basis, that’s his game.”

Ginobili hit the game winning layup in the Spurs’ Game 1 win over the Suns on Saturday with 1.8 seconds on the clock in double overtime.

The last sixth man award winner to lead his team in scoring was Milwaukee’s Ricky Pierce. He averaged 23 points when he won the award in 1990.

[Texas_Ranger]

Great Manu.

[hsxvvd]

Awards are not for the gods.

[ShoogarBear]

“Before I got here I used to think those shots that he made were luck, and what we called, when I was growing up, fluke shots,” Finley said.


:lmao X 29394959596969693129496

[T Park]

Oh man the hatred just went from Tony to Finley now. :lol

[gwidlon]

Congrats, Manu!

[Argiebabe]

Manu happy returns in NBA Sixth Man voting
Posted: April 21, 2008, 2:54 PM by Bruce Arthur
Basketball, NBA

So Manu Ginobili is the sixth man of the year, according to 123 of a possible 124 voters on the award, with last year's winner, Phoenix guard Leandro Barbosa, getting the other one. Now, to put this in perspective, Ginobili will receive several MVP votes this year, and the scintillating Spurs swingman will deserve them. He might even finish fifth, behind the sainted foursome of Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul and LeBron James. So if Ginobili was that good — and make no mistake, he might be the world's second-best balding athlete, behind only Tiger Woods — how in the hell was he not unanimous?

Well, because of two things. One, as Homer Simpson once said, democracy doesn't work. And two, the voting is done by a panel of writers and broadcasters who cover the league, and no offence to my friends in the electronic media, but broadcasters always, always, always are the guys who screw this kind of thing up. When Chris Paul was the consensus rookie of the year three years ago, the lone dissenting vote belonged to Utah Jazz broadcaster Ron Boone, who voted for Utah's Deron Williams. When Brandon Roy was clearly the league's best rookie last season, Toronto's own Chuck Swisky cast the lone vote for Andrea Bargnani. That particular vote, like Bargnani, looks worse today.

It might not have been a broadcaster who cast the rogue vote, so we'll wait for the results. But whoever didn't put Ginobili No. 1 did not list him on their ballot at all. Not to put too fine a point on it, but this person should never be allowed to vote for anything ever again. Or be allowed to drive a car.:lmao

[spursfaninla]

That was too good.

[lefty]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080421/capt.010626a867c3497e8bb35506e1fcebde.nba_sixth_ma n_basketball_txeg101.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080421/capt.8ef4e22f5b5646bdbb956d12aeb5e33d.correction_n ba_sixth_man_basketball_txeg102.jpg

:flag::flag:

[duncan228]

Wow...........

timvp at a loss for words. :lol

[Obstructed_View]

I found it ironic that Fred Hickman reported that Manu won the 6MOY this morning.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Congrats to him.
The most obvious nominee for the award.

[ShoogarBear]

I found it ironic that Fred Hickman reported that Manu won the 6MOY this morning.

:lol

[smeagol]

Aca de Belgrano. No me queda claro si hinchas por Manu o no......:downspin:

Sera porque no has leido las cosas que posteo :toast

Empeza por mi sig justo aca abajo . . .

[nfg3]

No brainer! This deal was done months ago but Manu never go around to telling the other players.

[Tippecanoe]

gratz to manu

[Elraptor]

Yea, congrats and good season for Manu!

[Fernando TD21]

Congratulations Manu! It was well deserved.

[urunobili]

he doesn;give a fuck about this... but anyhow FUCK the journalist that voted Barbosa:flipoff it may have meant more to Manu if it was unanimous...

[clubalien]

a well deserved award. Congrats Manu. Now if they would just award Bowen with the DPOY award, all would be right in the world.

sloan of the jazz deserves a coaching award too

[clubalien]

Props on the award. Well deserved.

I still don't understand how he didn't win last year and why almost no Spurs fan even thought Manu deserved it last year. Given, it's a lame award but going by the letter of the award, this should be Manu's second time winning it.

manu first player ever to win both the 6th man award and the MVP?

[Obstructed_View]

:lol

I was wondering if that one was too obscure. :lol

[milkyway21]

:clap:clap:clap:clap

Overdue for one yr, but congrats Manu! :elephant

[carina_gino20]

Manu Press Conference (http://broadband.nba.com/cc/playa.php?content=video&url=http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/press_conf/ginobili_sixth_man_award_pc_080421.asx&video=blank&nbasite=nba)

Manu: "I thought I was gonna keep it." :lol

[TMTTRIO]

It would have been nice if Manu was at least an All Star but I guess this little bit of recognition will have to do. Congrats Manu. He's been really carrying our team most of the year and he deserves a little bit of recognition. By the way here's the press conference. Manu seemed more interested in the key to the new vehicle then the award itself :lol.

[timvp]

Manu Press Conference (http://broadband.nba.com/cc/playa.php?content=video&url=http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/press_conf/ginobili_sixth_man_award_pc_080421.asx&video=blank&nbasite=nba)

Manu: "I thought I was gonna keep it." :lolGotta love Manu's team-first attitude.

He looked pretty happy in the press conference. With the way some people talked in here, you would have thought Manu would have thrown the trophy on the ground and stormed out yelling about how disrespected he felt :lol

[NRHector]

Macanudo che sos el mejor:toast :flag:

[curtismedellin]

although he'll probably never read this...

My congratulations Manu, well deserved.

[jmard5]

Gi-no-bi-leeeeeeeeeeeee!

[ShoogarBear]

If the plan was to not pass him the trophy, they should have had Tony do it.

[manu2020]

Congrats Manu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Body]

What's impressive is the list of Sixth Man winners since the award's inception. That's a roster of really terrific players all of whom are still well-remembered.

[kuato]

What's impressive is the list of Sixth Man winners since the award's inception. That's a roster of really terrific players all of whom are still well-remembered. Fucking insulting, he was not called to be an allstar and now this ... he is not really a sixth man and to give the sixth man award to him in the year he was playing more minutes as an starter ... no words. :ihit

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I wanna know who the asshole is that didn't vote him 1st, 2nd, OR 3rd. It would be the same guy that voted Barbosa #1, no doubt a jealous loser Suns sportswriter.

I was thinking the same thing, only I bet it was that Denver Douchebad Kiszla! :lol

[Kobayagi]

What, he got a brand new SUV and they made him donate it?

:lol


I know, I know...

[Manu_Ginobili]

Congrats to Manu!

NEW YORK, April 21, 2008 – Manu Ginobili of the San Antonio Spurs is the winner of the NBA Sixth Man Award presented by Kia Motors as the league’s best player in a reserve role for the 2007-08 season, the NBA announced today.


THANKS GUYS! :lobt:

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080421/capt.8ef4e22f5b5646bdbb956d12aeb5e33d.correction_n ba_sixth_man_basketball_txeg102.jpg

Manu: "Hmm..."
Journo1: "Hey Manu, how do you feel about winning this award?"
MG: "Me no comprende. No English."
Journo1: "What? You've been here for 6 years. We interviewed you plenty of times in English"
MG: "No, no. Me no Inglish."
Journo2: "WTF? Ok then, I speak Spanish, can I ask you what you think about it in Spanish?"
MG: "Me no Spanish. Me Italian"
Journo3: "I speak Italian..."
MG: "I'm late for practice, see you later"

:p:

Congrats Manu. But we know that you only care about this one: :lobt2:

[TMTTRIO]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080421/capt.8ef4e22f5b5646bdbb956d12aeb5e33d.correction_n ba_sixth_man_basketball_txeg102.jpg
Hmm this won't fit in my trophy closet because I'm saving room for the next ring so I wonder how much I could sell this for off of ebay.

By the way it looks like a nice vehicle. I thought it was funny Manu looked more interested in the new vehicle :lol.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7642/94dbb8b4248ecab9d872e1bbe8.jpg

[Jdspur20]

manu doesnt seem impressed in that first pic. anything less than the larry o'brian doesnt matter.

[bigfundamental21]

Way to go, Manu!

Now lets go get some more hardware! :lobt2:

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

manu doesnt seem impressed in that first pic. anything less than the larry o'brian doesnt matter.

To be fair to the sixth man nod, Manu probably isn't interested in most of the individual honors, he's just one of those completely team oriented individuals.
(although I'm pretty sure he'd make a mild exception for the MVP award)

[Strike]

Congrats, Manu. The fact that he's good enough to start on any team and takes a 6th man role with the Spurs just shows how much of a gamer he is and the fact that it's the team over the individual.

:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2:

[GSH]

So, I'm womdering if Manu is the first 6th man ever to kead his team in scoring? If so, I think that record will last for a long, long time..


The only other player to come off the bench and lead his team in scoring did not win a 6th Man award. But... it was another Spur player. Dominique Wilkins did it in the 96-97 season he played with the Spurs.

[ManuAddicted]

The fact that MANu recieved 123 of 124 votes leaves little conversation on if he "deserved" the award or not. As awards go, it was a landslide of epic proportions.

I understand those that question if one of the top players in the game should play off the bench. But really, that is another discussion based only upon what would make the Spurs a better team.

The fact that a star player of MANu's quality will sacrifice self to better team speaks for his value and commitment to the larger picture. It is also what makes this 6th Man on of the best in the game!


Sorry, but I don't understand why he gets this trophy NOW. :nope

For the things he do, he should have won it each season since 2003-2004, when Pop replaced him in the starting 5 for Hedo Turkoglu.

I think the award is very little compared of what he does... I guess he's not very happy about that.

[DAF86]

ESPN video 'bout Manu winning 6MOY, listen what he says 'bout his defense...

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3358160&categoryId=2459788&n8pe6c=1

...see i'm not the only one :lol

[timvp]

ESPN video 'bout Manu winning 6MOY, listen what he says 'bout his defense...

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3358160&categoryId=2459788&n8pe6c=1

...see i'm not the only one :lol:lmao

"Manu is by far the team's best defensive player." That actually made me laugh out loud. I don't think Argentina would even go that far.

[DAF86]

:lmao

"Manu is by far the team's best defensive player." That actually made me laugh out loud. I don't think Argentina would even go that far.

Even i wouldn't go that far :lol

[mattyc]

Very deserved winner. Congrats Manu.

[travis2]

The only other player to come off the bench and lead his team in scoring did not win a 6th Man award. But... it was another Spur player. Dominique Wilkins did it in the 96-97 season he played with the Spurs.

Not true. This has already been covered. In this thread.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2414689&postcount=47

[travis2]

I can't believe the idiots in this thread bitching about Manu winning this award. :bang

[Marhq]

Manu is bitching too (kind of) :lol. He had this to say on Arg TV today:


It's always better to be recognized, but (the award) is not going to have a relevant place when I retire nor I will talk about it as my most important award. I don't know. To me is better to be named the best player in Italy than to be the best sixth man here. This award is kind of weird. Off course is better to win it than not to win it.

Link (http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/04/22/um/m-01656614.htm)

Saludos.

[SpurAddict561]

MIlTl6Da9YM

[TMTTRIO]

Manu almost sounds mad too that he won it comparing it to his other individual awards like that. Thanks for the translation Marhq

[oski1000]

Sixth Man Award= Worthless award.......

[Crookshanks]

I love how Manu dressed up for the award "ceremony"! :king What's with the white capri pants? :p: But I really like the shoes - they even match his shirt! :lol

[TMTTRIO]

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9844/capta0c5b2272b024322abert5.jpg
yeah Manu really looked unimpressed with it tonight and wondering when he can leave.

[sassystriker]

yea, manu looked like he wanted to leave in that pic. haha. He looked cute though..

Kudos to Manu for the award.. :))

[FlAVaK]

Congrats Manu!

And he showed second place Barbosa tonight how much he deserved it:

Leandro 0-7, ZERO Points :lmao
Manu 9-17, twentynine Points :king

And here`s what D`Antoni said about the Award:

“I think he (Ginobili) should start so that way LB (Barbosa) could get it,” :nope

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2008042224