The Media Created “Delusion” That Clinton Could Win

[Nbadan]

During Tuesday’s Democratic presidential primary coverage on MSNBC co-host, Chris Matthews, declares the race between Obama and Clinton to be essentially over before the polls closed in Pennsylvania and blames “the media” for creating a horse race he says doesn’t exist...


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Matthews is generally scum, but I can't argue with his logic on this point, hell, I've been saying the same thing for weeks.....

[smeagol]

Obama supporters don't like competition

[Don Quixote]

Wow ... they are getting unhinged already.

I can't wait to see them when Obama loses.

[some_user86]

I love The Chris Matthews Show. Why do people dislike him? He seems straightforward.

[101A]

She has WON over 1,500 delegates.

She won TEXAS AND OHIO 6 weeks ago, and with 6 weeks to FOCUS on a single state; handily won Pennsylvania.

She won New York, New Jersey AND California. She would win Florida if they bothered to vote it; and with her base of Blue Collar and Union Support, would make Michigan a horse race!

Why is she still in the race? Because there are enough powerful, wealthy Democrats who realize she is probably the stronger candidate in the General Election. The Dems set up the stupid NON winner take all rules that Barrack is benefiting from; but the also set up the system of Super-Delegates which SHE can benefit from. Each of those factors are part of the Democratic selection process.

Barrack HAS NOT won the necessary delegates to get the nomination, and does not have the pledged Super Delegates to put him over the top. The race is, in fact, not over, and the Super Delegates could still swing her way.

[Yonivore]

:lmao

[xrayzebra]

Three to one in dollars spent and still the Messiah lost a key state.
Yeah he's got what it takes to be a winner. Guess he is hiding his
light under a bushel basket.

Cant we just leave him alone and let him eat his waffle?
Well Pennsylvania did. Enjoy your waffling Barack, I mean
waffle.

[Don Quixote]

Then again ... perhaps it is better for Obama to be the D-nominee after all. It would force the debate over the size and scope of government into center stage, and, barring a complete economic depression or some other disaster, that has to favor the candidate who is for smaller, more limited gummint.

Clinton, on the other hand, would likely parrot whatever the polls would drive her to say.

[boutons_]

Obama has won.

Hillary FINALLY winning something isn't "turning the tide". Hillary's boat is firmly grounded in the low-tide muck after the tide went out and carried Obama boat to unbeatable arithmetic. She won 55-45, she need to win, was expected to win, 65 - 35. Not enough. And she needs to win the rest of the contest 60%+ to overtake. won't happen.

The corporate media wants Hillary to win, but more immediately, they need to fabricate a media frenzy to keep selling advertizing through the summer. Hillary's doing what's best for her, the corps doing what best for them, and both doing what's worst for the Dems and Obama vs McPanderFlop.

[Don Quixote]

What of substance has Obama won since Super Tuesday?

[ClingingMars]

Operation Chaos continues to befuddle the liberals.

- Mars

[boutons_]

"She has WON over 1,500 delegates"

Quite simply (which may be too complicated for ya), Obama has won more, with very few pledged and supers in play.

PHX scored 96 pts last night. "so?"

[101A]

"She has WON over 1,500 delegates"

Quite simply (which may be too complicated for ya), Obama has won more, with very few pledged and supers in play.

PHX scored 96 pts last night. "so?"

Has Obama got enough to win yet?

Phoenix was up by 17 IN THE SECOND QUARTER.

So?

[Nbadan]

Did Phoenix go whining to the refs that they scored enough to win last night, even though SA scored more.....dumb analogy...

[101A]

Did Phoenix go whining to the refs that they scored enough to win last night, even though SA scored more.....dumb analogy...

The refs don't get to change the score...the Super Delegates DO...if they want to..

Y'all just don't seem to get it; the Dems put these rules in place; Hillary didn't!

She didn't invent the Super-Delegates; or allow their existence; but the bottom line is, they DO exist and they DO have a vote and they COULD put HER and not Barrack over the top! Would it be controversial? Yes. Would Democrats SCREAM? About half of them, yes. Would it be against the rules? NO!!!

Obama hasn't won anything - and is on a significant losing streak. Why should she get out; she's got the momentum, and he ain't got the votes. Can she overtake him in non-super delegates? Probably not. Can either win without super delegates voting for them. Nope. Whoever gets the Super Delegates gets the nomination.

My analogy was no worse than Bouton's. Just playing his little game.

[xrayzebra]

101 she may have a convincing argument for the Super's to vote for
her. Obama has won only one major state: Illinois, his home state.
But it really doesn't matter which way it goes. There is going to be
hell to pay and blood in the water when it is all over with. The
Clinton's backers are as devout as the Obama backers.

Oh about the Suns whining, seems I heard alot of that about
the bad calls they got in the first game. Of course it didn't
change anything, but Obama's whining isn't going to change
anything either. He is just surprised that he had to answer some
tough questions, which he couldn't answer. And was even questioned to begin with. I mean he is the Messiah after all.

[Don Quixote]

Wow. Hillary may just yet claim the nomination. I can't wait for this meltdown!

And, let's say Obamessiah manages to hang on. I wonder how many Clinton supporters -- union workers, white women -- will be able stomach pulling that lever for Obama this Nov.

Good times ...

[JoeChalupa]

I hate to admit and it makes my skin crawl but I agree with Xray.

[atxrocker]

And, let's say Obamessiah manages to hang on. I wonder how many Clinton supporters will be able stomach pulling that lever for Obama this Nov.



I won't. He is the only guy who would force me to probably not cast a vote in this election if he is the nominee.

[Nbadan]

I won't. He is the only guy who would force me to probably not cast a vote in this election if he is the nominee.

Yep, just like 11% of Republicans backers in Penn cast a vote for a candidate who withdrew 6 months ago....works both ways...

[Don Quixote]

I'm glad to know some people will stick to their principles. There's no way you should vote for this guy, even if he is the nominee.

[Nbadan]

I'm glad to know some people will stick to their principles. There's no way you should vote for this guy, even if he is the nominee.

:stirpot:

[JoeChalupa]

I won't. He is the only guy who would force me to probably not cast a vote in this election if he is the nominee.

That is sad. Real said.

[JoeChalupa]

I'm glad to know some people will stick to their principles. There's no way you should vote for this guy, even if he is the nominee.

I can see and understand that point of view....but I wonder how many conservative republicans will do the same since McCain is not their first choice? Not many I bet because they will unite against a democrat in the oval office which will help McCain and all those supporters of either Clinton or
Obama who stay home will also help McCain.

So dont bitch after he wins.

[atxrocker]

That is sad. Real said.


What's sad is reading your takes on jumping off the Obama bandwaggon and looking to be content joining the camp of whoever is getting some momentum and all but conceding that he is a lost cause overnight. I have stated from the very beginning that I will not vote for Barack Obama and I am sticking with that. Edwards or Clinton have always been the only options in this election for me. Don't look to me to change stances because my candidate is doing poorly in this poll or that poll. Neither the massiah or mccain offer anything that will motivate me to hit the polls on election day. If you don't like that, then get back to keeping track of whos up and whos not so you can base your vote on that.

[xrayzebra]

So dont bitch after he wins.

You only lose bitching rights if YOU DON'T VOTE!:hat

[JoeChalupa]

What's sad is reading your takes on jumping off the Obama bandwaggon and looking to be content joining the camp of whoever is getting some momentum and all but conceding that he is a lost cause overnight. I have stated from the very beginning that I will not vote for Barack Obama and I am sticking with that. Edwards or Clinton have always been the only options in this election for me. Don't look to me to change stances because my candidate is doing poorly in this poll or that poll. Neither the massiah or mccain offer anything that will motivate me to hit the polls on election day. If you don't like that, then get back to keeping track of whos up and whos not so you can base your vote on that.

As I've stated before I'm STILLl supporting Obama and I still believe he is the best candidate but I'm also not blind to what is happening in the campaign. I know there are some people who just won't vote for Obama, such as yourself and that is reality.
All I'm saying is that I think it is sad you feel the way you do.
I don't care if you like it or not.

BARACK THE VOTE!!!!

[Don Quixote]

Stick to your principles, man! You don't have to vote for that beast Hillary when she steals the nomination.

[ClingingMars]

i'm loving this, and i know McCain is. making November 100x easier.

- Mars

[Cant_Be_Faded]

my candidate is super old and will make a fool of himself in every possible way in the general election but its cool because he's not really my candidate:lmao

[Nbadan]

I can see and understand that point of view....but I wonder how many conservative republicans will do the same since McCain is not their first choice? Not many I bet because they will unite against a democrat in the oval office which will help McCain and all those supporters of either Clinton or
Obama who stay home will also help McCain.

So dont bitch after he wins.

I can see a lot of former Huckabee supporters, the religious right, and current Ron Paul supporters, republicans against the Iraq war, not voting for McCain in Nov....

[MannyIsGod]

Has Obama got enough to win yet?

Phoenix was up by 17 IN THE SECOND QUARTER.

So?

You should watch the game clock a bit closer dude. This is more akin to Obama being up by 10 with a minute to go.

Good luck coming back.

[Don Quixote]

Remember ... I'm not saying that Hillary is going to overtake Barack in overall pledged delegates or the popular vote (this is debatable -- it depends on how Michigan and Florida get resolved). What I am saying is that Democratic party rules have ensured that there will be no clear winner until convention time. And then ... watch out.

Look, I'd rather Obama be the nominee personally. He is polarizing, and his radical leftism will force us to debate how and to what extent we want government running our lives. It's a debate we need to have. If Clinton's the nominee, I'm not sure we have it.

But, man oh man, there will be blood in Denver this September. Someone's going to walk away very unhappy.

[MannyIsGod]

Remember ... I'm not saying that Hillary is going to overtake Barack in overall pledged delegates or the popular vote (this is debatable -- it depends on how Michigan and Florida get resolved). What I am saying is that Democratic party rules have ensured that there will be no clear winner until convention time. And then ... watch out.

Look, I'd rather Obama be the nominee personally. He is polarizing, and his radical leftism will force us to debate how and to what extent we want government running our lives. It's a debate we need to have. If Clinton's the nominee, I'm not sure we have it.

But, man oh man, there will be blood in Denver this September. Someone's going to walk away very unhappy.

You live in a different reality than the rest of us so I'm not sure what good it is to discuss things with you.

[Don Quixote]

I just can't wait to see Obama supporters when and if their Messiah gets shafted. I will give you guys this, you all are the most dedicated and loyal of the three candidates' followings. It's almost cult-like.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, its almost cult like the way I break numbers down for you. Its like I live on a compound where they give math lessons and I've learned how to add.

You on the other hand, seem to be part of the cult of imagination politics where you just dream up scenarios that are extremely unlikely to happen regardless of the current trends or facts.

Props!