Dwight Howard or Chris Paul?

[xtremesteven33]

If you were a GM and were starting a new franshise, and had to pick one. Who would you build your franshise around?

Dwight Howard or Chris Paul?

[JamStone]

Dwight Howard. I'm a huge fan of Chris Paul but Howard's size, athleticism, quickness and ability to dominate the paint area is far more rare to find than a great point guard. Either would be a great guy to build around, but I think I'd take Howard first.

[monosylab1k]

plus Howard isn't a whiny little punk bitch.

[xtremesteven33]

yea Howard would be the favorite pick but Chris Paul just looks more like a leader and mentally tough... i predict Chris Paul at the pace he is going, when he reties hell be mentioned in the same breath as Magic Johnson....

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Chris Paul is one of the best I've seen at making his teammates better. I'd have to go with Chris Paul.

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yea Howard would be the favorite pick but Chris Paul just looks more like a leader and mentally tough... i predict Chris Paul at the pace he is going, when he reties hell be mentioned in the same breath as Magic Johnson....

I agree completely. He is already one of the best I've ever seen at making his teammates better and more confident. The guy is a damn good player and a hell of a leader.

[Soul_Patch]

Howard. Although Paul is amazing, his attitude sucks, and i believe it is much harder to find a truly dominant big, than it is to find someone to run the point.

It is close, since paul is so good at gettnig his team off, but id still go with Howard.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Dwight Howard. It's still a big man's league, and if he can continue to improve he'll be as good or better than Shaq in his prime.

What settles the bet for me is building a team on the defensive end of the floor. Offensively Paul has a small edge in my book. As Howard adds some polish to his game that gap might close, but at this moment Paul is as good as anyone on the offensive end of the court. But defensively Howard is much, much more attractive if I'm building a team. A quality big man can cover up mediocre perimeter defense, but with hand check rules and what not the reverse isn't true.

And while I wouldn't say that quality PG's are a dime a dozen, I would say that there are more of them in the league than their are superstar centers. I'd have more confidence that either through the draft or free agency that I could get a good PG than a good big man.

[Soul_Patch]

I think its much easier to cover up a mediocre point guard, than it is a mediocre big.

You could have dwight howard in the middle, and it really wouldnt matter much who was bringing the ball up the court.

[Indazone]

A dominant big man is rare as finding a diamond. I gotta go with Howard. You can always find a diminuitive PG later.

[baseline bum]

Superman by a mile.

[SpursIndonesia]

Dwight Howard, if he's willing to put up the hardwork in polishing his offensive skill in the post, he can be a stronger version of Hakeem.

[JMarkJohns]

College, Paul.
NBA, Howard.

Simple as that...

[mardigan]

Howard can dominate on both ends of the floor. If he had a good point there is no telling what he could do. Howard by a mile.

[lebomb]

Great point guard vs Great Big Man........ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS take the great Big Man

[Findog]

Howard.

[Bob Lanier]

I don't particularly like either, but I'd take Paul.

:lol at the notion of Dwight Howard being better than O'Neal or Olajuwon.

[samikeyp]

D-12.

[Allanon]

Good big men are rare, good point guards right now are a dime a dozen.

Name off the good and great Big men in the NBA right now
Yao, Duncan, Amare, DHo, Jefferson, Kaman, Bynum, Chandler

Then name off the good/great Point Guards
Nash, TParker, Paul, DWill, Rondo, Roy, Arenas, Billups, Kidd, AI, Bibby, BDiddy, Fisher, Andre Miller, Calderon, Udrih, Rafer, TJ Ford,

Chris Paul will always be too small so he can only do so much. You can teach skills but you can't teach size, I take DHo.

[Rummpd]

Howard not even close.

[SpursDynasty]

If you were a GM and were starting a new franshise, and had to pick one. Who would you build your franshise around?

Dwight Howard or Chris Paul?

Neither. Howard hasn't taken Orlando anywhere in 4 years and Chris Paul hasn't take NOH anywhere either. They're both useless.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Howard.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Neither. Howard hasn't taken Orlando anywhere in 4 years and Chris Paul hasn't take NOH anywhere either. They're both useless.

You refuse to act with common decency.

[SpursDynasty]

Did I lie about Howard and Paul? I don't think so.

[mavs>spurs2]

Did I lie about Howard and Paul?

Yes.

[resistanze]

Did I lie about Howard and Paul? I don't think so.
BTW, how is Chris Paul a fake midget? Does that mean he's actually tall?

[Texas_Ranger]

Dwight.

[Shaolin-Style]

Tough choice. I'd probably go with Dwight Howard.

Big men seem to do much more than guards these days consistently, and the good ones like him are harder to come by than good guards like CP3.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Did I lie about Howard and Paul? I don't think so.

Yes. Decency rebel.

[cornbread]

Dwight Howard all the way.

[ForeignFan]

I agree completely. He is already one of the best I've ever seen at making his teammates better and more confident. The guy is a damn good player and a hell of a leader.

Magic? I don't think CP3 will play center during Playoffs, though.

[ForeignFan]

Take the big (for all the reasons given above, plus they remain active for a longer period a la Kareem or Chief or Shaq ...)

[lebomb]

Neither. Howard hasn't taken Orlando anywhere in 4 years and Chris Paul hasn't take NOH anywhere either. They're both useless.


YOU R DUMB :lmao

[MONTENEGRINO]

DWIGHT ''IRON'' HOWARD. No real contest ;)

[Galileo]

Chris Paul

He is a better player than Howard.

[Amare_32]

Howard

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Kobe hasn't taken Los Angeles anywhere in 4 years and Chris Bosh hasn't taken Toronto anywhere either. They're both useless.

[Elraptor]

They play different positions so it's kinda hard. You have to think about which position you need and what players you already have an so on.

But overall, i would go with Dwight Howard, in 5 years, he'll be the Most Dominant and BEST Center in the entire league.

[ducks]

tony parker

[jonnybravo]

They play different positions so it's kinda hard. You have to think about which position you need and what players you already have an so on.

But overall, i would go with Dwight Howard, in 5 years, he'll be the Most Dominant and BEST Center in the entire league.

I don't know man. Franchise big or a franchise pg. Franchise big 10 times out of 10.

Dwight all the way.

[SAGambler]

Howard far and away over CP3.

[remingtonbo2001]

Howard

[LEONARD]

Both are flukes...

[xtremesteven33]

after watching paul in this series, id have to go with chris paul.... for sure. its like michael jordan incarnate.....

[MajicMan]

Both are flukes...

One of them flukes is about to bounce your ass out the first round.

I'd take CP3. Best pg in the league and sure to be one of the best pg's to play the game.

[Allanon]

I still take Dwight Howard, CP3 has size issues.

Put him against DWill and D will torch him everytime. Heck put CP3 against a good defensive guard like Fisher and you will see CP3's game drop substantially.

[Bob Lanier]

And Howard has skill issues, which is a problem when you aren't nearly as strong as Shaq.

I know that Spurs fans are accustomed to cheering for springy, athletic, evangelistic big men with underdeveloped offensive skillsets, but Howard isn't even close to D-Rob's talent - no jumpshot, no slashing, a comparably weak post game, and his defense is much worse.

He's a chubby-faced little dunker, and nothing more.

[xtremesteven33]

And Howard has skill issues, which is a problem when you aren't nearly as strong as Shaq.

I know that Spurs fans are accustomed to cheering for springy, athletic, evangelistic big men with underdeveloped offensive skillsets, but Howard isn't even close to D-Rob's talent - no jumpshot, no slashing, a comparably weak post game, and his defense is much worse.

He's a chubby-faced little dunker, and nothing more.



good point.

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Heck put CP3 against a good defensive guard like Fisher and you will see CP3's game drop substantially.

Fisher's defense has taken a substantial drop this season. He always seems a step slow and consistently out of position.

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I strongly disagree with all the Dwight love on here.

I love Dwight Howard. The dude is fun to watch, has a great personality, and stays classy and humble. I cannot stand CP3 anymore. He is a whiny fucking bitch. But the dude is a hell of a player.

CP3 makes Tyson Chandler an actual threat on offense when in fact he is about as talentless offensively as it gets. You cannot say that Dwight Howard makes his teammates better the same way Chris Paul does. Chris Paul puts up numbers as if hes straight from a video game as well... absolutely sick stats.

If I'm building a team, I'll take CP3 anyday, because he is capable of making virtually any center become a solid threat. Talentless centers in the future that come out of college, such as Tyler Hansboro had better pray that they can end up playing with a guy like CP3 for the sake of their career...

[MONTENEGRINO]

And Howard has skill issues, which is a problem when you aren't nearly as strong as Shaq.

Oh man! Just imagine him in his prime... He will grow ALOT till his age of 28-29...

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Chris Paul is the guy I want on my team. His talent seems to be of a rarer nature, if that makes sense.

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Chris Paul is the guy I want on my team. His talent seems to be of a rarer nature, if that makes sense.

Agreed.

[adidas11]

Dwight Howard. Its always easier to build a team around a dominant big man, than it is a small point guard.

Look at the past 50 years in NBA basketball, and note how many of the championships were won by teams with a dominant big man.

And then note how many were won by a team built around a small point guard.

Only two championships were won by a dominant point guard (Iasiah Thomas). And they went through hell to build a team around him (and by which, he had to tone down his game), including basically beating the crap out of the rest of league in order to accomplish that.

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Dwight Howard. Its always easier to build a team around a dominant big man, than it is a small point guard.

Look at the past 50 years in NBA basketball, and note how many of the championships were won by teams with a dominant big man.

And then note how many were won by a team built around a small point guard.

Only two championships were won by a dominant point guard (Iasiah Thomas). And they went through hell to build a team around him (and by which, he had to tone down his game), including basically beating the crap out of the rest of league in order to accomplish that.

Now Jordan might now have been a small guard, but he was a guard, and they built around him, and had no dominant big man. the difference was that he was so dominant, that teams focused more attention to him, and he could thus make his teammates better too, including the big men, much like Chris Paul does with Tyson Chandler. the Hornets are capable of winning an NBA championship, and the core of Paul, West, and Chandler have not even hit their primes.

I'll say this... as you said... its easier to build around dominant big men, but it is definitely more than possible to build around dominant guards as well. Chris Paul is definitely one of those that you can build around.

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and the most common thing about the leaders on each championship team has nothing to do with size, but it has to do with the ability to take heat off his teammates to make them better players. that is hands down the most important ability for a leader to have in basketball.

[Bob Lanier]

Dwight Howard. Its always easier to build a team around a dominant big man, than it is a small point guard.

Sure. And when Dwight Howard becomes dominant instead of just pretty damn good that'll become a major argument in his favor.

[adidas11]

Now Jordan might now have been a small guard, but he was a guard, and they built around him, and had no dominant big man. the difference was that he was so dominant, that teams focused more attention to him, and he could thus make his teammates better too, including the big men, much like Chris Paul does with Tyson Chandler. the Hornets are capable of winning an NBA championship, and the core of Paul, West, and Chandler have not even hit their primes.

I'll say this... as you said... its easier to build around dominant big men, but it is definitely more than possible to build around dominant guards as well. Chris Paul is definitely one of those that you can build around.

Yeah, but the Bulls winning championships took a long time, and it sure wasn't easy. They had to wait until they had complementary players that developed enough to meet the task. (Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant). It wasn't as if Jordan just started playing better and then they started winning championships.

Look at the Lakers, as a prime example. A team 'built' around Kobe Bryant. The Lakers really didn't start ascending until this season when Andrew Bynum became more of a force. And when he went down with the knee injury, the Lakers were losing almost every game. And when they were able to bring in Pau Gasol, the Lakers started winning again.

Basketball games are won in the paint. Period. From rebounding, to blocked shots, to determining your defensive rotation, to being the ideal first option for scoring. So because of all of these facets, a dominant big man is going to have more impact on the game.

I didn't say that it isn't possible to win by building a team around a point guard. Its just very difficult. The "easier" route is going with a big man.

[ItalianSpursFan]

Superman...

[jacobdrj]

Generally, high assisting PG's don't win Championships in the modern NBA. Not that their assists preclude their winning, but because, perhaps, the team is ultimately too dependent on him.

I would take a defensive PG with a good jumper over a good passer.

Centers, not PFs, but Centers win championships. You need a good GM, of course, and PFs also do not preclude titles, but how goes your C, so goes your team.

However, keep in mind, the Hornets don't just have a PG, they have a guy in West who schooled Rasheed Wallace in his rookie season. And he is showing he is really that good. And they have a VERY good center in Chandler to anchor the D. We saw with Detroit in 2004, that a 2 headed mosnter at PF and C can also overcome shortcomings at true center (and to an extent the Spurs Championship, with D-Rob being a defensive liability, and Timmay being quite green).