Mavs/Hornets game 4 thread

[Fillmoe]

take notice how mavs fans stopped posting... I SEEEEEEEE YOU!

[kingsfan]

CP3 = MVP
Byron Scott = Coach of the Year
:toast

[trueD]

Next game is in NO on Tuesday

I thought it was a 2-3-2 schedule until the finals?

[kingsfan]

Cubes is so gay, is that his lover?

[lefty]

I wanted Dallas to win tonight, so Spurs could get as much rest as possible for the 2nd round

:bang

[CubanMustGo]

I thought it was a 2-3-2 schedule until the finals?

Only finals are 2-3-2. Everything else still 2-2-1-1-1.

[Jason_Terry]

Well hopefully the Cowboys will have a better year.

[kingsfan]

I thought it was a 2-3-2 schedule until the finals?
2-2-1-1-1

[ElNono]

Is Cubes shitfaced? He's all laughing while his team is getting run out of his own gym.

[peskypesky]

Cubes is so gay, is that his lover?

looks like it to me.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Diss me all you want Mavs fans and call me a bandwagon fan but I'm tired of this shit, 8 years of watchin this team is enough they break my heart every single year.

[trueD]

Only finals are 2-3-2. Everything else still 2-2-1-1-1.
Thanks, had that totally backwards. But then so does the NBA, imo. :lol

[Amare_32]

Man if Kidd gets suspended for Game 5 @ New Orleans I don't see how the Mavs avoid elimination.

[StylisticS]

I thought it was a 2-3-2 schedule until the finals?

2-2-1-1-1 up until the finals.

I have nothing but laughter at my team. Turning point was putting JJ Barea and Stackhouse in the game. Pure greatness by Avery, once again. I give him credit for idiotic shit. Oh and somebody tell the players that if your jumpshot isn't falling, maybe it's time for you to drive to the basket any which way you can. Stackhouse, George, Juwan Howard must be off this team and Avery must be off the bench.

[Fillmoe]

Diss me all you want Mavs fans and call me a bandwagon fan but I'm tired of this shit, 8 years of watchin this team is enough they break my heart every single year.

lol... so u decide to become a hawks fan.... you sure do know how to pick winners

[peskypesky]

i almost feel sorry for the mavs and avery. almost.

[Jason_Terry]

Eddie Jones making a shot when it doesn't matter.

[Banzai]

anyone hear a mavs fan was yelling at cuban and talked shit and Cuban was smiling

[Fillmoe]

lol @ the arena being empty as shit!

[trueD]

Is this game still going on?

[kingsfan]

lol... so u decide to become a hawks fan.... you sure do know how to pick winners
:nope

[Jason_Terry]

Man if Kidd gets suspended for Game 5 @ New Orleans I don't see how the Mavs avoid elimination.

They're not avoiding elimination. It's doesn't matter if Kidd plays or not.

[StylisticS]

i almost feel sorry for the mavs and avery. almost.

don't be.....you can laugh at them though. they deserve it. At least the Stars are up 2-0 on San Jose.:rollin

[Roxsfan]

Wow, the Mavs are really pathetic......

Do they have anyone out hurt for the season?

[peskypesky]

2-2-1-1-1 up until the finals.

I have nothing but laughter at my team. Turning point was putting JJ Barea and Stackhouse in the game. Pure greatness by Avery, once again. I give him credit for idiotic shit. Oh and somebody tell the players that if your jumpshot isn't falling, maybe it's time for you to drive to the basket any which way you can. Stackhouse, George, Juwan Howard must be off this team and Avery must be off the bench.

it ain't Avery's fault. he took the Mavs to the Finals. blaming him for this is like when the Nets fired a certain coach by the name of Byron Scott, even though he'd taken them to 2 Finals.

what fucked things up for the Mavs was the panic trade for Kidd. plain and simple. they gave up a lot of youth and speed at pg, and a lot of size in the frontcourt with diop, and for what? look at kidd's stats tonight.

[Jason_Terry]

Like I said, GO COWBOYS!!!

[Fillmoe]

lol @ the arena playing "try again" by aliyaah

[Roxsfan]

Doug Collins: "Dallas is gonna make a push." Are you kidding me? It's over.


Did it ever start?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Is Cubes shitfaced? He's all laughing while his team is getting run out of his own gym.

I think he finally cracked after so many humiliating playoff losses. It looked like he was talking and responding to someone laughing with his gestures, even though nobody was there.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

lol... so u decide to become a hawks fan.... you sure do know how to pick winners

At least I won't hae to worry about not having a post presence and I actually know these guys will compete, I feel rotten inside for doing this.

[trueD]

Wow, the Mavs are really pathetic......

Do they have anyone out hurt for the season?

Yeah, Harris and Diop.

[StylisticS]

it ain't Avery's fault. he took the Mavs to the Finals. blaming him for this is like when the Nets fired a certain coach by the name of Byron Scott, even though he'd taken them to 2 Finals.

what fucked things up for the Mavs was the panic trade for Kidd. plain and simple. they gave up a lot of youth and speed at pg, and a lot of size in the frontcourt with diop, and for what? look at kidd's stats tonight.

He deserves some of the blame. His horrible substitutions, his offense is to predictable, he takes his players out at times when they have no business being out, he's in love with his veterans. I know we have idiotic players like Howard and Stackhouse who continue to shoot jumpers even though they aren't making them, but the blame should go back to the coaching staff as well.

I agree with the trade. I didn't want it to happen. I hated every bit of it. I did not want to lose Harris and was happy as hell that George blocked it which is about the only thing he did right this season. I would love to hear Cuban and Donnie saying we fucked up because we panicked. I would love to hear them admit it. I would love to hear them admit taking a step back.

[kingsfan]

Nice job Hornets :toast 3 down 1 to go

[Findog]

So how long before Avery's fired?

Day after G5.

[Findog]

Man if Kidd gets suspended for Game 5 @ New Orleans I don't see how the Mavs avoid elimination.


They're going to lose either way.

[JamStone]

LMAO

Josh Howard and Jason Kidd: 9 pts, 61 minutes
JJ Barea: 8 pts, 5 minutes

[monosylab1k]

Diss me all you want Mavs fans and call me a bandwagon fan but I'm tired of this shit, 8 years of watchin this team is enough they break my heart every single year.

Oh Jesus Christ....

....bravo to whoever created this troll, you had me convinced that you were an actual Mavs fan.

[Roxsfan]

Yeah, Harris and Diop.

:lmao

[ducks]

LMAO

Josh Howard and Jason Kidd: 9 pts, 61 minutes
JJ Barea: 8 pts, 5 minutes

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

LMAO

Josh Howard and Jason Kidd: 9 pts, 61 minutes
JJ Barea: 8 pts, 5 minutes

:lol Barea needs to start!

[Findog]

it ain't Avery's fault. he took the Mavs to the Finals.

No, Dirk took the Mavs to the Finals. Avery was along for the ride.


blaming him for this is like when the Nets fired a certain coach by the name of Byron Scott, even though he'd taken them to 2 Finals.

what fucked things up for the Mavs was the panic trade for Kidd. plain and simple. they gave up a lot of youth and speed at pg, and a lot of size in the frontcourt with diop, and for what? look at kidd's stats tonight.

Avery can't be faulted for not working magic with this roster, but he lost the locker room a long time ago, he's not a good in-game coach, his substitutions and minutes distributions are retarded. Red Auerbach and Phil Jackson probably couldn't get this team out of the first round, and changing coaches isn't some magical elixir, but Avery does need to go.

[Findog]

Will Cuban still say "We like our team?"

:lol

[kingsfan]

Dam last time Hornets won in D was when CP was 12

[Findog]

I feel most bad for Dirk. He deserves better than the garbage he's been surrounded with on the court and in the coach's box.

[monosylab1k]

I just don't get it.

Aggressive, attacking the basket = win.
Shooting jumpers = lose.
Stackhouse on the bench = win.
Stackhouse in the game = lose.

IS IT THAT FUCKING HARD TO FIGURE OUT?

[resistanze]

Did Josh Howard really have to play like dogshit immediately after the whole weed thing?

[monosylab1k]

I feel most bad for Dirk. He deserves better than the garbage he's been surrounded with on the court and in the coach's box.

I feel bad for him, but he was part of the problem tonight. When he's out there being aggressive, the team follows. Early on he did that. But once he decided that shooting pussy jumpers all night was his game, the team did the same thing.

[monosylab1k]

Did Josh Howard really have to play like dogshit immediately after the whole weed thing?

I thought he wanted OUT of Dallas.....but he sure as shit didn't help himself by making those comments and then sucking dick on the court.

[san antonio spurs]

Jo Howard is officially mentaly weak.
WTF?

[Findog]

I just don't get it.

Aggressive, attacking the basket = win.
Shooting jumpers = lose.
Stackhouse on the bench = win.
Stackhouse in the game = lose.

IS IT THAT FUCKING HARD TO FIGURE OUT?

For Avery, yes, it is that hard to figure out.

[trueD]

David West, good interview at the end in the arena. He's true leadership material. But Paul--wow. I'm super-impressed.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Oh Jesus Christ....

....bravo to whoever created this troll, you had me convinced that you were an actual Mavs fan.

Go ahead and bash me man but 8 years of this shit is too painful, why keep rooting for them if next year the same punishment will happen.? I love those guys but its just become too painful for me too watch

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

AJ Blew this game in the second half

[Fillmoe]

props to nba is rigged.... at least he knows the mavs arent goint to amount to shit

[Findog]

AJ Blew this game in the second half

You can autotext that shit.

[monosylab1k]

Go ahead and bash me man but 8 years of this shit is too painful, why keep rooting for them if next year the same punishment will happen.? I love those guys but its just become too painful for me too watch

I'm guessing a Spurs fan made this troll. Not sure who but I bet I can figure it out.

[spurscenter]

Damn Mavs

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

You can autotext that shit.

You guys looked good in the first quarter and second quarter. Why'd they go away from Bass?

[monosylab1k]

You guys looked good in the first quarter and second quarter. Why'd they go away from Bass?

Apparently he was shooting the ball too close to the rim.

[The Third Man]

Cuban's a billionaire....he should always be smiling.

Incidentally, giving up on your team is weak. Don't be that guy.

[Findog]

You guys looked good in the first quarter and second quarter. Why'd they go away from Bass?

You'd have to ask Avery Johnson.

[StylisticS]

You guys looked good in the first quarter and second quarter. Why'd they go away from Bass?

Nah, we didn't look good in the 2nd. The 2nd is where we lost the game. The 3rd was just icing on the cake as they got the lead to double digits and we couldn't get it lower than 5. When we had Dirk on the bench and had Barea, Stackhouse, and George come off the bench, that was it.

WHY do we start the 2nd quarter with shitty lineups. Game 1 was Juwan Howard, Stackhouse, and Eddie Jones. Game 2...not even going to speak on that shit.

[mattb_25]

MANNNN, what was that shit. I'm so tired of Avery johnson. Can you please explain to me what the fuck he had jj an stack out there at the same time . That completely took away the momentum we had going to halftime. Whatever, he'll be gone soon.

P.S. Does this mean that mavsfan1000 is gonna jump bandwagons again?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

MANNNN, what was that shit. I'm so tired of Avery johnson. Can you please explain to me what the fuck he had jj an stack out there at the same time . That completely took away the momentum we had going to halftime. Whatever, he'll be gone soon.

P.S. Does this mean that mavsfan1000 is gonna jump bandwagons again?

mavsfan1000 is buying Celtics gear right now...

along with a Hawks Mike Bibby jersey just in case.

[trueD]

Aldridge going to Boris Diaw for the interview: "Thank you very morch" :lol

[Findog]

mavsfan1000 is buying Celtics gear right now...

along with a Hawks Mike Bibby jersey just in case.

You have to be prepared for all contingencies.

[sribb43]

Avery's idea of putting in JJB changed the whole flow/momentum of the game. A guy that hasnt been active for over a month has no business playing in a game like this....you play Kidd and JET 40-45 minutes if you must. Avery went away from what work in game 3 rotation wise and set the team up for failure. From the get go you could see stack didnt have it, so he should be benched; instead avery rides him in the 3rd quarter for some idiotic reason

JJB + Stack = Mavs lose

[DazedAndConfused]

The Hornets are just a better team. Right now DAL has no identity, I'm not really sure what Jason Kidd is doing out there on the floor. He seems to be good at the transition game and pushing the ball up the floor, but in the halfcourt sets he's pretty useless because he's not a scoring threat.

If I'm a DAL fan I'm pretty worried. Not much of a future to look forward to with the rest of the WC getting stronger and stronger each year.

[Findog]

From another board:

Our best player outplayed NO's best player and yet they still won - in dramatic fashion, too! Why? Because role players, supporting casts, and coaches do matter.

[sribb43]

The Hornets are just a better team. Right now DAL has no identity, I'm not really sure what Jason Kidd is doing out there on the floor. He seems to be good at the transition game and pushing the ball up the floor, but in the halfcourt sets he's pretty useless because he's not a scoring threat.

If I'm a DAL fan I'm pretty worried. Not much of a future to look forward to with the rest of the WC getting stronger and stronger each year.

yes the hornets are a better team but Avery Johnson doesnt know how to utilize his players strengths, instead he exploits their weakness even more. ie Jason Kidd

[trueD]

I totally agree with Barkley, Suns and Mavs had to do something drastic to keep up with the West. Can't blame them for a nanu second.

Before the ASB when NO became such a threat, and it was clear the Spurs were going to continue their assault on the West and hey, they probably have the Celts to look forward to, there isn't going to be any down period at the end like when the Lakers met the Nets in 2002 (grrrrrr). Drastic times call for drastic measures.

[mavsfan1000]

MANNNN, what was that shit. I'm so tired of Avery johnson. Can you please explain to me what the fuck he had jj an stack out there at the same time . That completely took away the momentum we had going to halftime. Whatever, he'll be gone soon.

P.S. Does this mean that mavsfan1000 is gonna jump bandwagons again?
I would've left after the Kidd trade if I intended to jump ship at all. I'll probably go for the Celtics though as I would like to see Garnett get a trophy. My number 1 team will still be the Mavs no matter how stupid the decisions of this organization has been.

[mavs>spurs2]

I would've left after the Kidd trade if I intended to jump ship at all. I'll probably go for the Celtics though as I would like to see Garnett get a trophy. My number 1 team will still be the Mavs no matter how stupid the decisions of this organization has been.

No, it's ok, go ahead and jump ship while you can!

[ludda]

Mavs only look so pathetic b/c they're getting donkey turd from their second best player, J-Ho

I've never seen someone regress so badly, what is he shooting, below 30%.

Mavs are done, they will be stupid to keep the same players after this season. I think Avery is done too.

Weird...to think about the Mavs and Suns from last year and then this year...

[DaDakota]

Cuban screwed up a team that won 67 games last year.....simply unreal.

DD

[mavsfan1000]

Mavs only look so pathetic b/c they're getting donkey turd from their second best player, J-Ho

I've never seen someone regress so badly, what is he shooting, below 30%.

Mavs are done, they will be stupid to keep the same players after this season. I think Avery is done too.

Weird...to think about the Mavs and Suns from last year and then this year...
Yep Dallas lost 3 key players in this trade. (Harris, J-Ho, and Diop)

[sribb43]

Mavs only look so pathetic b/c they're getting donkey turd from their second best player, J-Ho

I've never seen someone regress so badly, what is he shooting, below 30%.

Mavs are done, they will be stupid to keep the same players after this season. I think Avery is done too.

Weird...to think about the Mavs and Suns from last year and then this year...

Avery is done :clap

[monosylab1k]

Mavs fans have found one positive in this series - that it "isn't Dirk's fault" this time.

Absolutely wrong. It IS Dirk's fault still.

Josh Howard took 16 shots, Dirk took..........18.

If you're the goddamn leader of this team, do you allow Smokey to jack up 16 worthless shots while you put up only 18? You KNOW that you are the ONLY HOPE this team has of winning, and you defer to Josh & Jet for brick after brick after brick?

Mavs fans may use this series and season as redemption for Dirk, but in my opinion this indicts him as a non-leader more than any other playoff series he's ever played in. He had his chances to take the game over and decided not to, he had his chances to push the momentum in Dallas' favor and he missed more key free throws.

He went through the motions and acted like he gave a shit, but Dirk mailed in this game just as much as everyone else on the team. 22 points? In the 2nd half he sees that the entire team has NOTHING and does he take over? No, he's letting DEVEAN FUCKING GEORGE jack up shots.

Just like they've seen the huge flaws of Smokey & Avery, it's time for all Mavs fans to finally admit that Dirk is what he is. He's NOT soft, he's NOT a choker, but he's also NOT A LEADER. Any team with Dirk as their best player will NEVER EVER EVER EVER be capable of winning a championship. End of story.

Just blow this entire team the fuck up.

[Shank]

Cuban screwed up a team that won 67 games last year.....simply unreal.

DD

I seemed to have missed the trophy presentation for those 67 wins last season. They won the whole thing, right? Again, that was a coaching error by having the guys play playoff basketball throughout the regular season and then changing lineups and shitting the bed against GS. It's cool, though. The piece of crap that has ruined this team - Avery - is about to be out of here soon enough. He'll end up as an assistant to Pop and will spend the next couple years being groomed to take over the Spurs gig. It's where his heart has always been. And fuck him for being like that.

This game, once again, was a microcosm of all the team's problems throughout the year. The stupid coaching decision. The stupid lineup changes. Bench players that aren't worth a shit. Guys tuning out their coach. Josh Howard continuing to regress. Terrible half-court basketball. Veterans that have no business on a current roster. Failure to do what it necessary to take over a game. Complacency. Settling.

Last night, Dirk and Terry were the only two playing with even a modicum of heart. Everyone else couldn't possibly fathom the seriousness of a "must win" game and, if they could, they didn't have the strength or mental fortitude to have it translate to the court. Next year, give me Dirk, give me Terry, give me Kidd, Bass, Wright and Dampier. Everyone else can hit the fucking bricks. A new coach will come in and we'll see what can be accomplished with a new mindset and a leader that isn't consistently outcoached.

[Indazone]

lol play the other J-Ho, you'll get more point production and a smarter player.

Juwan Howard

[sribb43]

it didnt matter who the Mavs PG was, they would have been down 3-1 regardless because your so called 2nd best player cant shoot 15-58 for 26% in the playoffs. Add to the fact that J-Ho is shooting 15% in quarter 2-4

[Findog]

I'm stunned at the regression of Josh Howard, from the "next Scottie Pippen" to a homeless man's Michael Finley. And we're not talking early in his career with the Suns and Mavs slasher Michael Finley, but grizzled vet with the Spurs Michael Finley.

[sribb43]

I'm stunned at the regression of Josh Howard, from the "next Scottie Pippen" to a homeless man's Michael Finley. And we're not talking early in his career with the Suns and Mavs slasher Michael Finley, but grizzled vet with the Spurs Michael Finley.

J-Ho = current Michael Finely minus a jump shot.

Spurs fans..J-Ho 4 Fin?:lol

[mavsfan1000]

Just like they've seen the huge flaws of Smokey & Avery, it's time for all Mavs fans to finally admit that Dirk is what he is. He's NOT soft, he's NOT a choker, but he's also NOT A LEADER. Any team with Dirk as their best player will NEVER EVER EVER EVER be capable of winning a championship. End of story.
Just blow this entire team the fuck up.
This team is not built well around Dirk. It was 2 years ago but Avery fucked that up. Too bad J-Ho has lost his game. Harris and Daniels were also good fits around Dirk. Both getting easy baskets and putting pressure on the defense. This team is just too old now. We lost our best shotblocker and slasher and J-Ho has become crap. Too much is being asked of Dirk just like too much was being asked of Kobe a couple years ago. Get the right pieces of role players and Dirk can be successful. 2 games from a championship until D-Whistle took over.

[Indazone]

Mav's fans around the world can take solace that they weren't the only ones that f'kd up their team. You have good company in the Suns lol.