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RandomGuy
04-28-2008, 02:49 PM
Coal price hikes boost electric rates, more increases coming

By JOHN WILEN, AP Business Writer
6 minutes ago

NEW YORK - Consumers struggling with high gas prices, rising food costs and falling home values have something new to worry about: Sharply rising electricity rates due to a surge in coal prices over the past year.

There is an abundance of coal in the United States, but like many other commodities its price is increasingly dependent on events elsewhere in the world. Snowstorms this winter cut coal production in China and heavy rain flooded mines in Australia — the world's largest coal exporter. Meanwhile, demand for coal to generate electricity and make steel is rising almost everywhere, especially in fast-growing China and India.

That has increased the world's appetite for American coal, helping to push up the price of the fuel utilities burn to drive the steam turbines that generate half of the country's electricity. U.S. coal exports jumped 19.2 percent last year, according to the Energy Department, and are expected to rise another 15 percent this year.

"As more of the world develops and uses more energy, and supply tries to keep up with demand, we're going to have these pinch points," said Carol Pfeiffer, director of fuels for the U.S. for utility giant E.On AG.

Central Appalachian coal, a benchmark grade that's widely used by power plants, has jumped from around $40 a ton in early 2007 to almost $90 a ton now. Coal from the Powder River Basin in Wyoming and Montana, which has about three-quarters the heat content of Central Appalachian coal, jumped from less than $10 a ton to almost $15 a ton over the same time period.

Utilities must burn more Powder River Basin coal to generate an equivalent amount of energy, and it must travel east by rail, which adds significantly to its final cost. Utilities such as Columbus, Ohio-based American Electric Power Co., for instance, mostly burn Appalachian coal in their eastern plants, but rely on cheaper Powder River Basin coal in the west. Some American Electric plants are designed to burn only the types of coal they're near.

Facing such steep price increases, utilities nationwide are raising rates and are likely to push for even more dramatic increases in electric rates in the coming months. In parts of coal-dependent West Virginia, for instance, electricity rates will rise 15 percent this year. That's one of the biggest increases in American Electric's history, a rate hike the company attributes largely to rising coal costs.

West Virginia is far from alone. In Kentucky, which like West Virginia gets more than 90 percent of its electricity from coal, the four biggest utilities have raised rates an average of 12 percent over the past 12 months, according to the Kentucky Public Service Commission.

Pamela Earlywine, a single mother of two in Paris, Ky., says her monthly electric bill has risen about 20 percent since last year. "We'll just have to cut back even further," Earlywine said. "I'm already paying at least $30 more every month, so that changes my whole budget."

American Electric's planned 15 percent rate hike may not sound like much, but it means a bump of $900 a month for Twin River Hardwoods Inc., a small, rural West Virginia sawmill whose monthly electric bill is already $6,000. "That would hurt," said owner Tony Woodyard.

The national average retail price of electricity rose 2.3 percent last year, the Energy Department says. But in West Virginia, prices rose 4.6 percent. Energy research firm Global Insight expects rates to rise by 5.7 percent nationally this year, largely due to coal costs, and Stifel Nicolaus analyst Barry Bannister recently forecast that fuel costs will boost retail electric rates 69 percent by 2015 — more than double the increase of the last 10 years.

While states and utilities nationwide are taking steps to reduce their dependence on coal, the amount of the nation's electricity generated by burning it will actually grow to 54 percent by 2030 from 49 percent now, the Energy Department says.

Despite recent price increases, coal is still cheap compared to other fuels. In 2006, for instance, coal cost $1.69 per BTU, or British thermal unit — a measure of how effectively a burning fuel generates heat — according to the Energy Department. Natural gas, in contrast, cost $6.87 per BTU.

Some of the reasons coal prices are up, including the weather related disruptions in China and Australia this winter, will likely be resolved quickly. But other causes are more long-term in duration. Ports in Australia aren't adequate to handle growing demand, leaving ships lined up 30 to 50 deep waiting to load coal. South Africa faces similar transportation bottlenecks.

Demand for coal, meanwhile, is growing worldwide. China recently shifted from mostly exporting coal to mostly importing it.

In the U.S., transportation costs, rising wages and expensive new safety regulations have boosted the cost of mining coal. The prospect that Congress will pass laws sharply restricting polluting carbon emissions raises the possibility of even greater cost increases as producers spend on equipment and technology to cut emissions.

But until utilities face carbon restrictions, their biggest headache is coal costs.

In West Virginia, American Electric chalks up 54 percent of its recent rate hike to increased coal costs, and 32 percent to the rising expense of buying power from other companies — which is also more expensive due to rising coal prices. The remainder of the increase is to pay for equipment that will reduce coal plant emissions.

American Electric is able to limit its rate increase in West Virginia to 15 percent — even though coal prices have doubled recently — because, like most other utilities, it buys coal via a portfolio of hundreds of contracts that let it lock in prices. But as contracts expire, they must then be re-negotiated at rising rates.

Analysts differ on what coal prices will do next. Goldman Sachs' Michael Molnar thinks coal's price spike is due mostly to short-term factors and will encourage mining, which will bring down prices by bringing more coal to market. Citigroup Global Markets analyst Alan Heap disagrees, arguing that the short-term problems in coal hotspots like Australia and China highlight serious underlying problems with coal supplies.

For their part, utilities such as American Electric, E.On and Duke Energy Corp. see coal prices dipping slightly in coming months and years as supply constraints in Australia and Asia ease, but think growing demand will prevent prices from ever crashing back to last year's levels.

"There not a whole lot of reason why the prices would start to temper," said Chuck Zebula, senior vice president of fuel supply at American Electric.

That's bad news for consumers like Rodrigo Goines, 36, a disabled Lexington, Ky., resident whose government assistance checks barely cover his meager living expenses now.

"I'm not going to be able to afford it," Goines said. "If they keep raising these rates, I'm gonna be in trouble."


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Silly people, the problem isn't that we don't have enough fuel, it is the damned environmental laws, right?

I mean, price increases couldn't possibly be driven by simple supply and demand, it must be that evironmental laws are to blame.

/sarcasm

boutons_
04-28-2008, 03:13 PM
Forget carbon fuels, what about water?

xrayzebra
04-28-2008, 03:16 PM
Forget carbon fuels, what about water?


Yes, let us talk about water. Politicians have made it
a scarce commodity.

And the environmental laws have made coal and oil a scarce
commodity. When you make something hard to obtain
through laws it makes them expensive.

RandomGuy
04-28-2008, 03:20 PM
Yes, let us talk about water. Politicians have made it
a scarce commodity.

And the environmental laws have made coal and oil a scarce
commodity. When you make something hard to obtain
through laws it makes them expensive.


.... oooh that was too easy. You didn't read the last bits of the OP, did you? (he asked, knowing the answer no)

:lmao

RandomGuy
04-28-2008, 03:22 PM
Yes, let us talk about water. Politicians have made it
a scarce commodity.

And the environmental laws have made coal and oil a scarce
commodity. When you make something hard to obtain
through laws it makes them expensive.

Please state the law that makes coal more expensive. I would prefer a findlaw source if you have it.

xrayzebra
04-28-2008, 03:23 PM
.... oooh that was too easy. You didn't read the last bits of the OP, did you? (he asked, knowing the answer no)

:lmao

I don't get your point. I was answering you buddy. boutons.
He ask a question, I answered it.

RandomGuy
04-28-2008, 03:24 PM
http://www.findlaw.com/

Get started Ray. You just claimed that environmental laws are causing coal to be more expensive.

I say: Great. Let me know what law needs to be repealed so I can write my congressman.

Do tell.

xrayzebra
04-28-2008, 03:41 PM
[QUOTE=RandomGuy;2439546]http://www.findlaw.com/

Get started Ray. You just claimed that environmental laws are causing coal to be more expensive.

I say: Great. Let me know what law needs to be repealed so I can write my congressman.

Last Updated: Thursday, 15-Dec-2005 11:44:04 EST





COAL: Ancient Gift Serving Modern Man
American Coal Foundation
Strict Regulations Govern Coal Mining

Because coal mining can have a number of significant impacts on the surrounding environment and miners, coal producers are required to go through a complicated process for obtaining local, sate, and federal permits to mine.

Coal mining is one of the most extensively regulated industries in the United States. Before one shovel of earth can be turned, or one ton of coal removed from the ground, a company must comply with literally hundreds of laws and thousands of regulations. Meeting all the requirements is arduous and time-consuming, even for the most efficient and well-managed companies. As long as 10 years can elapse between the start of planning a mine and mining the first ton of coal.

The process begins with a mining company providing detailed information about such activities as how the coal will be mined, and the land reclaimed; the quality and quantity of surface and underground sources of water and how mining activities will affect them; and how the coal will be transported from the mine and how that will affect the area.

Surface mining operators also must consider the soil and prevailing climatological conditions prior to mining, because the land has to be returned to approximately the same physical contour, and to a state of productivity equal to or better than the pre-mining condition. Wildlife habitats cannot be permanently disrupted, and archeological resources must be protected. The principal federal surface mining law sets forth 25 reclamation requirements for operators to meet. These include public hearings and procedures for obtaining permits. To make certain that lands being mined will be restored, the law requires companies to post bonds, as high as $10,000 per acre, to cover reclamation.

Concern for the environment was not always a high priority for the coal industry or our society as a whole. Consequently, in some areas of the country abandoned mines dot the landscape. Their operators simply stopped mining because the coal seam was exhausted, they were bankrupt, or for some other reason they no longer could or would mine coal. To restore these "orphan lands," and eliminate unsightly and unsafe conditions, today's coal producers pay a special tax on every ton of coal they produce. The money, which goes into the federal Abandoned Mine Lands Fund, provides financing for reclamation projects initiated by state agencies.

Coal mining companies work hard to maintain the environment. The law requires it, but they also understand that the right to remove coal carries with it a great responsibility. Based on Office of Surface Mining data, it is estimated that mined lands totaling an area greater than the size of the state of Delaware have been reclaimed since 1977. Over time, as today's coal producers pay for the shortsightedness of their predecessors with their tax contributions to the Abandoned Mine Lands Fund, the percentage of lands reclaimed will rise.
Regulation of Surface Mining

As long ago as the 1930s some states had reclamation laws on their books. But in the late 1970s, when there was significant energy development activity in the West, Congress enacted the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act (SMCRA), which mandated strict regulation of surface mining. It because the first comprehensive national surface mining law, and a tough one.

The most extensive regulations affecting surface mining are a consequence of SMCRA. Under the law, individual states which establish federally approved enforcement programs have the primary responsibility for enforcing mining regulations in their jurisdictions. Where no such programs exist, the federal law is implemented by the Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement in the Department of Interior.

Other federal laws with significant impact are the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, and the National Environmental Policy Act. In addition, each state where surface mining occurs has its own set of laws and regulations.

Beyond the specific requirements of the federal laws already noted, many other legislative acts affect some or all surface mining in this country:

* American Indian Religious Freedom Act of 1978
* Antiquities Act of 1906
* Archeological Nd Historical Preservation Act of 1974
* Archeological Salvage Act
* Bald Eagle Protection Act of 1969
* Endangered Species Act of 1963
* Fish and Wildlife Coordination Act of 1934
* Forest and Rangeland Resources Planning Act of 1974
* Historic Preservation Act of 1966
* Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918
* Mining and Minerals Policy Act of 1970
* Multiple Use - Sustained Yield Act of 1960
* National Forests Management Act of 1976
* National Trails System Act
* Noise Control Act of 1976
* Resource Conservation and Recovery Act
* Safe Drinking Water Act of 1974
* Soil and Water Resources Conservation Act of 1977
* Wild and Scenic Rivers Act
* Wilderness Act of 1964

In directing the states to enforce the federal surface mining law, Congress recognized that effective coal mining regulation must take into account local conditions and problems unique to certain areas. To a large degree, that process has worked well. Where problems exist, they are generally caused by a handful of irresponsible operators, who flout the law and take the coal without preserving the land.

RandomGuy
04-28-2008, 05:18 PM
Repeal them all.

How much will it affect the price of coal?

RandomGuy
04-28-2008, 05:24 PM
Coal mining companies ... understand that the right to remove coal carries with it a great responsibility.

Pussies.

Get rid of the silly SMRCA. I want my energy.

Strip mining for everyone, and you can dump your mine trailings anywhere you want.

Right, Ray?

Without those silly laws, everything would be so much better. I see a land of cheap energy, just waiting for us to pull the trigger.

Tell me Ray, what laws you would get rid of and what effect that would have, good and bad.

I give you the power to do anything you want to, the ultimate dictator. Just tell me how you are going to do it.

Don Quixote
04-28-2008, 05:36 PM
Hell, I don't know. Don't know the first thing about coal. But I'm sure loosening environmental regulations doesn't necessarily mean strip mining everywhere, either.

some_user86
04-28-2008, 06:58 PM
Hell, I don't know. Don't know the first thing about coal. But I'm sure loosening environmental regulations doesn't necessarily mean strip mining everywhere, either.

You don't know the first thing about a lot of things.

1369
04-28-2008, 08:04 PM
Wait, we got rid of strip mining?

All this coal talk reminds me of a bumper sticker one of the guys I work with has.

"Earth first! (We'll mine the rest of the planets later.)"

Don Quixote
04-28-2008, 08:17 PM
"Earth first! (We'll mine the rest of the planets
later.)"

Yes. Get me one of those bumper stickers!

*j/k, I hate bumper stickers. But I love the quote.

sabar
04-28-2008, 11:48 PM
If only the other planets had anything worth mining. I guess if you want rocks, carbon dioxide, nitrogen and frozen methane, you're set!

Don Quixote
04-28-2008, 11:59 PM
That we know of! We haven't even found all the mineral deposits on this planet, let alone any other planet.

I'm sure some planet out there is practically made of diamonds. Every earth dweller could have a mouth full of gold, and shiny rims with all that $$ (or whatever the devil you kids do with your money these days).

RandomGuy
04-29-2008, 05:18 PM
I'm sure loosening environmental regulations doesn't necessarily mean strip mining everywhere, either.

I know that, and you know that, but Ray doesn't seem to make any such distinction when it comes to environmental laws.

He has yet to say what environmental laws he would keep and what he would throw away.

Until he does, I will simply take him at his word that they are all bad, and see where HE draws the line.

RandomGuy
04-29-2008, 05:22 PM
That we know of! We haven't even found all the mineral deposits on this planet, let alone any other planet.

I'm sure some planet out there is practically made of diamonds. Every earth dweller could have a mouth full of gold, and shiny rims with all that $$ (or whatever the devil you kids do with your money these days).

The metal content estimated in some asteroids would be enough to make mining executives drool.

The thing about planets is that at some point, they were molten blobs, and all the heavy metals pretty much sank to the center, only to be spewed up occasionnally in small concentrations in lava flows.

One ton of ore yielding one OUNCE of gold is a GOOD find.

Asteroids are made of the SAME materials that formed earth, but have never been seperated by density in the same manner. One ton of stony asteroid material, has a LOT of metal, and some of that metal is bound to be useful stuff like the plantinum group stuff.

RandomGuy
06-25-2008, 03:45 PM
bump. 'cause of the other article I am about to post.